Question Pixel 6a Thoughts - Google Pixel 6a

As a Pixel 6 user, I don't like it. The compromises aren't worth the $150 less. It doesn't even have the A-Series touches (headphone jack, rear-fingerprint, etc.) like the 5a did. Sure, it's a solid phone, but if you're buying a phone for more than a year, it's definitely worth the extra 33%. Then again people buy the iPhone SE and that's literally the iPhone 8 with the A15.

isenki said:
As a Pixel 6 user, I don't like it. The compromises aren't worth the $150 less. It doesn't even have the A-Series touches (headphone jack, rear-fingerprint, etc.) like the 5a did. Sure, it's a solid phone, but if you're buying a phone for more than a year, it's definitely worth the extra 33%. Then again people buy the iPhone SE and that's literally the iPhone 8 with the A15.
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And is an especially bad device for Indian audience. 6A is the first pixel that we are getting after 4a. and yet with 60hz screen and subpar specs.

Me from previous years would have complained, because obviously we have much better phones for cheaper but I can't understand how, out of all these phone companies which keep popping up every day, only 3 seem to care about compact phones (Samsung, Apple, Google).
I wanted to gift my father a new phone, he's been using a Poco F1 and he hates every phone that is larger than that.
What are the options now? Spend more to get the S21/22 or the iPhone 12/13 or just get the Pixel 6a because there are no other options.
Personally, having changed from a Poco X2 to an S22, at this point, I feel like larger phones are overrated.
In conclusion, I'm not saying the 6a is good, definitely not at that price, but it's the only one that matches the requirement.

mohan226 said:
Me from previous years would have complained, because obviously we have much better phones for cheaper but I can't understand how, out of all these phone companies which keep popping up every day, only 3 seem to care about compact phones (Samsung, Apple, Google).
I wanted to gift my father a new phone, he's been using a Poco F1 and he hates every phone that is larger than that.
What are the options now? Spend more to get the S21/22 or the iPhone 12/13 or just get the Pixel 6a because there are no other options.
Personally, having changed from a Poco X2 to an S22, at this point, I feel like larger phones are overrated.
In conclusion, I'm not saying the 6a is good, definitely not at that price, but it's the only one that matches the requirement.
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I went to Best Buy today to look at the phone. The size is perfect. I'm trading in my Pixel 6 which I hate for the 6a and they are giving me a $250 trade-in. So for 2 bills I get the phone I want not the behemoth that I have now. Your father will love it, it's slimmer and noticeably smaller in the hand. I'd get it from Google but they don't offer a trade in for the P6.

Google really said **** you to the Indian Market .

isenki said:
As a Pixel 6 user, I don't like it. The compromises aren't worth the $150 less. It doesn't even have the A-Series touches (headphone jack, rear-fingerprint, etc.) like the 5a did. Sure, it's a solid phone, but if you're buying a phone for more than a year, it's definitely worth the extra 33%. Then again people buy the iPhone SE and that's literally the iPhone 8 with the A15.
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I'm buying it to upgrade my 4a 5g. Literally don't care about the bells and whistles. It's a high end budget phone.

bobby janow said:
I went to Best Buy today to look at the phone. The size is perfect. I'm trading in my Pixel 6 which I hate for the 6a and they are giving me a $250 trade-in. So for 2 bills I get the phone I want not the behemoth that I have now. Your father will love it, it's slimmer and noticeably smaller in the hand. I'd get it from Google but they don't offer a trade in for the P6.
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I hate to say this but I got 300 trade-in for an old 3a plus free pixel buds on google's store.

Geo411m said:
I hate to say this but I got 300 trade-in for an old 3a plus free pixel buds on google's store.
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Yep, I did the same, couldn't pass up the deal

Geo411m said:
I hate to say this but I got 300 trade-in for an old 3a plus free pixel buds on google's store.
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I can't do that unfortunately. BB at $250 with free buds for a cracked P6 is still pretty good.

bobby janow said:
I can't do that unfortunately. BB at $250 with free buds for a cracked P6 is still pretty good.
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For a cracked screen. absolutely agree with you.

jawiler said:
Yep, I did the same, couldn't pass up the deal
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Yes, WAY too good to passup.

Geo411m said:
For a cracked screen. absolutely agree with you.
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Not a cracked screen just a slight crack in the back at the bottom. Hardly noticeable but there nonetheless.

I think they should've put Gorilla glass Victus or 5 and a glass back panel cause they both are very common in all mid-range phones! I ordered this phone only for the Camera because I love Gcam...

clairelara said:
I think they should've put Gorilla glass Victus or 5 and a glass back panel cause they both are very common in all mid-range phones! I ordered this phone only for the Camera because I love Gcam...
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From everything I have seen and from every Jerryrig video, iterations of Gorilla Glass are meh at best. Glass is glass and it will break and it will scratch at a level 6 with deeper grooves at a level 7. Shatter resistance improvements are marginal at best. Those fancy videos that Corning puts out are framed in the most ideal way possible. It's like taking a tall glass and slamming it on the table. It won't break because the bottom of the glass is reinforced. Take that same glass and slam it down on the lip where it is thinnest and it will shatter.
I just always get a glass screen protector and a case. Better safe than sorry and better have a phone than be without for days to weeks because of repairs.

I thought I would love the front thumb print scanner... but it is kind of annoying to have to press the power button first and then scan. On the bright side, there are fewer accidental triggers. But I dont know if that is worth it. Also, I miss the 3.5 headphone jack. :-(
Other than those things, it seems pretty similar to the 5a to me. Roughly the same battery drain. I am sure I will see some performance gain eventually. Just not noticing it yet.

edufur said:
I thought I would love the front thumb print scanner... but it is kind of annoying to have to press the power button first and then scan. On the bright side, there are fewer accidental triggers. But I dont know if that is worth it. Also, I miss the 3.5 headphone jack. :-(
Other than those things, it seems pretty similar to the 5a to me. Roughly the same battery drain. I am sure I will see some performance gain eventually. Just not noticing it yet.
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I hear what you're saying. I had the Pixel 4XL and face unlock was amazing. I literally only had to pick up the phone and it would detect my face almost immediately.
You mentioned that it's annoying to have to press the power button first and then scan finger. You could set the phone to detect when you pick up or tap/touch the phone. That way, screen turns on and you can scan your finger without having to press the power button.

Update... this phone is in need of serious updates. I have lots of apps going non responsive and even the google assistant struggles. 5G is really bad and the GPS is occasionally confused. All around, I almost want to go back to my 5a.

The 6a feels cheap. I like the size of it, I don't care about 60 vs 90+ refresh rate, I wish finger print sensor was still on the back. The 6 and 6 pro feel great in the hand.
If I was going to buy a Pixel #A device, I'd get the 5A or 4A 5G. I wouldn't shell out for a 6a that's new. If I was to get a 6A, I'd wait a year and buy it dumb cheap used

Traded in my behemoth P6 (not even the pro) and will not look back. This feels great in the hand even with a minimal case which I use when I'm off the carpet of my home. The only thing that compares to this is the P5 which I never should have sold as quickly as I did. But I'm enjoying the P6a experience as of now.

KaptinBoxxi said:
The 6a feels cheap. I like the size of it, I don't care about 60 vs 90+ refresh rate, I wish finger print sensor was still on the back. The 6 and 6 pro feel great in the hand.
If I was going to buy a Pixel #A device, I'd get the 5A or 4A 5G. I wouldn't shell out for a 6a that's new. If I was to get a 6A, I'd wait a year and buy it dumb cheap used
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Honestly it depends on what youre coming from. This is worlds more premium feeling vs the 3a and 4a. Never held the 4a 5g or 5a so I cant speak to those. I was also intending on just picking up a used 5a as I rarely ever buy the newest phone but the $300 trade in of my 3a + free buds was too good to pass up. The 3a XL was $479 new in 2019 and its no where near this nice or powerful.
Just my $.02 anyway

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Just bought it online!

So, after following OP1 from 2014 till now, i am finally going to get my hands on OP6. So excited!
IAmRC1 said:
So, after following OP1 from 2014 till now, i am finally going to get my hands on OP6. So excited!
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I did the same thing a couple of days ago. I ordered the red but this color is back-ordered about 1 week...no big deal.
I have a pixel 2 xl and always buy the google devices from the nexus one. Always wanted to try the OP because of the software. Looking forward to it!
You can be excited, honestly I never had a better all-in-one pack of a smartphone in my hands.
It has some minor disadvantages, but many more awesome things to offer!
Overall best phone I've ever used. Haven't had one complaint. The notch doesn't bother me at all. And the navigation gestures, in place of the navigation bar, are very well executed.
Having owned most flagships over 5 years of many different OEM's I have to say that OnePlus I find most compelling. Having also had the 3T and 5T and perhaps should nhsve waited for the 6T, the red just got me.
Some say it's close to others flagship price and then slate OnePlus for this or that. £519 compared to £860+ is a significant saving in comparison. For this there is obvious things OnePlus has to save on and balance things out properly. I think they do this reasonably well. I say this as dual speakers would have been easy, and some IP even 67 would have been nice.
So no the 6 is not perfect but when you factor in the price and really see what your getting it's very very nice indeed.
1)The performance on the 6 is best in class, it just works and very well.
2)OOS some dislike, I love as it's a stock Android experience with just the right flavouring.
3)Camera (now this can be subjective) but for the price it's great and almost keeps up with higher end devices.
These are a few things that for me make using a device great.
I'm disappointed with look of my oneplus6,
I bought it only because of software possibilities and flat display and 256gb of storage and snapdragon845.
Oneplus6 is very ugly and poorly designed phone with retarded glass back for zero reason, back of the phone must be high quality plastic as wireless charging coil under it.
phone must not have notch and any bezels, especially when all technologies are available.
I hope next model is going to be better.
sams s9+ could be the choice but it has lower specs, even uglier design, retarded curved display and higher prices on top of it.
And that's it, we do not have any other phones with needed specs and software possibilities.
dmlv said:
I did the same thing a couple of days ago. I ordered the red but this color is back-ordered about 1 week...no big deal.
I have a pixel 2 xl and always buy the google devices from the nexus one. Always wanted to try the OP because of the software. Looking forward to it!
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Ordered my red Sunday got it Wednesday. On mondya it went backorder I was supped. Lol. Sick color and device. I sold my midnight black to get this one.
x111 said:
I'm disappointed with look of my oneplus6,
I bought it only because of software possibilities and flat display and 256gb of storage and snapdragon845.
Oneplus6 is very ugly and poorly designed phone with retarded glass back for zero reason, back of the phone must be high quality plastic as wireless charging coil under it.
phone must not have notch and any bezels, especially when all technologies are available.
I hope next model is going to be better.
sams s9+ could be the choice but it has lower specs, even uglier design, retarded curved display and higher prices on top of it.
And that's it, we do not have any other phones with needed specs and software possibilities.
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I think you probably need to return it. But a huge fan of the nice but the device is very nice looking and specs and superior.
x111 said:
I'm disappointed with look of my oneplus6,
I bought it only because of software possibilities and flat display and 256gb of storage and snapdragon845.
Oneplus6 is very ugly and poorly designed phone with retarded glass back for zero reason, back of the phone must be high quality plastic as wireless charging coil under it.
phone must not have notch and any bezels, especially when all technologies are available.
I hope next model is going to be better.
sams s9+ could be the choice but it has lower specs, even uglier design, retarded curved display and higher prices on top of it.
And that's it, we do not have any other phones with needed specs and software possibilities.
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Wow. What did you do to piss off the OnePlus design team. Sounds like they were out to get you!
x111 said:
I'm disappointed with look of my oneplus6,
I bought it only because of software possibilities and flat display and 256gb of storage and snapdragon845.
Oneplus6 is very ugly and poorly designed phone with retarded glass back for zero reason, back of the phone must be high quality plastic as wireless charging coil under it.
phone must not have notch and any bezels, especially when all technologies are available.
I hope next model is going to be better.
sams s9+ could be the choice but it has lower specs, even uglier design, retarded curved display and higher prices on top of it.
And that's it, we do not have any other phones with needed specs and software possibilities.
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i think you were looking for a flawless phone and op6 is not that. all owners know that ? next time dont get swept up in the hype ?
x111 said:
I'm disappointed with look of my oneplus6,
I bought it only because of software possibilities and flat display and 256gb of storage and snapdragon845.
Oneplus6 is very ugly and poorly designed phone with retarded glass back for zero reason, back of the phone must be high quality plastic as wireless charging coil under it.
phone must not have notch and any bezels, especially when all technologies are available.
I hope next model is going to be better.
sams s9+ could be the choice but it has lower specs, even uglier design, retarded curved display and higher prices on top of it.
And that's it, we do not have any other phones with needed specs and software possibilities.
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well if it dont fit ur eager for design return it get ur money back
then make a design an build it ur self then u get the look u want
i think op6 is a great looking phone
thats why i got it
i woult never ever buy a phone only because of the specs
oneplus
lacAPERZ said:
i think you were looking for a flawless phone and op6 is not that. all owners know that ? next time dont get swept up in the hype ?
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nope, oneplus6 is pretty smooth and has all the software I need for now,
thanks to all devs for their hard work.
it's still very poorly optimized but it is about any other phone on the market, thanks to Google team of software developers with broken hands and mental disorder.
regardless hardware design, oneplus6 is extremely ugly and poorly developed phone.
it has absolutely unnecessary ugly notch and HUGE bezel on front side.
on the back it has retarded glass cover which can easily break.
No wireless charging coil which cost a few dollars more.
No ip68 which cost the same a few dollars more.
no microsd card reader, a few dollars more.
so here we have retarded oneplus seo who cannot think clear or just simply highly disrespect customers.
x111 said:
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nope, oneplus6 is pretty smooth and has all the software I need for now,
thanks to all devs for their hard work.
it's still very poorly optimized but it is about any other phone on the market, thanks to Google team of software developers with broken hands and mental disorder.
regardless hardware design, oneplus6 is extremely ugly and poorly developed phone.
it has absolutely unnecessary ugly notch and HUGE bezel on front side.
on the back it has retarded glass cover which can easily break.
No wireless charging coil which cost a few dollars more.
No ip68 which cost the same a few dollars more.
no microsd card reader, a few dollars more.
so here we have retarded oneplus seo who cannot think clear or just simply highly disrespect customers.
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why dont u just sell the phone an stop complaining about it
an just buy a phone u like an stop all ur it dont have this an it dont look like this
a ton if user love this phone an thats it
x111 said:
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nope, oneplus6 is pretty smooth and has all the software I need for now,
thanks to all devs for their hard work.
it's still very poorly optimized but it is about any other phone on the market, thanks to Google team of software developers with broken hands and mental disorder.
regardless hardware design, oneplus6 is extremely ugly and poorly developed phone.
it has absolutely unnecessary ugly notch and HUGE bezel on front side.
on the back it has retarded glass cover which can easily break.
No wireless charging coil which cost a few dollars more.
No ip68 which cost the same a few dollars more.
no microsd card reader, a few dollars more.
so here we have retarded oneplus seo who cannot think clear or just simply highly disrespect customers.
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Dude, I really don't understand you and what u r doing on this op6 forum...

Would you still buy a Pixel 3 today?

The reason I'm asking is that I'm looking to replace my Pixel 2, but it is not urgent. Right now, Google is offering $200 off a Pixel 3, which sounds like a good deal. However, they slyly have the sale ending on May 6, and on May 7 they will be announcing something new, which is of course rumored to be the Pixel 3a. So what to do?
I like all the features that the Pixel 3 has -- similar to my Pixel 2 actually -- but realistically I don't need or use a lot of them. For instance, nothing that I do requires the fastest processor out there; I don't really care what the case is made of since I put a bumper case on it right away; I use the camera mainly when traveling, but take fewer pictures than I used to; and I've taken about a half dozen selfies in my life!
So should I get a discounted 3 knowing that the 3a (IF that's what it is) might have something even better (like a bigger battery), or just forget it all and wait for the Pixel 4? What would you do?
So, I got a free upgrade to the pixel 3 from the pixel 2 in January and honestly, if its not urgent I wouldn't recommend doing it.
Yes the pixel 3 camera is better, but the 2's camera still takes pictures comparable to any flagship, and I can't personally see a difference in the pictures I take day to day.
In terms of UI, I'd actually say the pixel 2 provided a smoother experience, though I've never seen the devices side by side so can't say so for sure. (other people have also suggested this is true)
Major thing for me is that I've experienced worse battery performance, especially when on standby mode, which I think is due to pie, as when upgrading from oreo to pie on my pixel 2 I saw similar results.
And its likely that the pixel 3 will see a price drop once the next gen pixel line is out anyway, so if price is a concern, I don't see why you shouldn't just wait it out either way
rochrunner said:
The reason I'm asking is that I'm looking to replace my Pixel 2, but it is not urgent. Right now, Google is offering $200 off a Pixel 3, which sounds like a good deal....What would you do?
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Forget it. Wait until the Pixel 4. The P3 has a lot of problems with the display and for $650 with tax it's simply not worth it.
Thanks all for the intelligent, reasonable advice (hard to come by online these days!). I've decided to wait until the P4 is out since I can always fall back to whatever the May 7 product is, or a reduced P3. Price is not really a factor from an absolute standpoint, but I don't want to pay more for something that what it's worth to me. In any case, Fall is a much better time for me to get a new device since I'll be curtailing my summer activities by then and will be looking for something to occupy my time for a while.
No. I mostly love the phone but the lack of proper 60fps on the camera needing me to use 3rd party apps to get usable video kills it for me.
What I would do is buy a pixel 3 @ eBay with large discount and keep it for 4 years ?
I found these sealed, brand new in box Pixel 2 on eBay for incredibly cheap - just £275, claims to have extended 2 years warranty too (item number 293056131709). Want to buy Pixel 2 for my sister's birthday, but listing smells fishy - claims to post from Essex UK, but posting takes 14 days, so clearly the phones are not UK models and come from somewhere else. Previously I had 3 different Sony Z3c and last one wasn't UK model - very, very different quality product...
For my opinion just wait for pixel 4 im using pixel 3 now but so far i like smsung it just everything it better samsung s10 i had so many issue from pixel 3 camera bokeh not copletly good some reason doesn't perfect for 1 camera and software and some photos by google canot be open it was dispointing when you gonna uplod picture to intagram and the picture canot be open how do feel?
Speker does good but when you play music in half volume you will feel vibrant in back and your hand
Pixel 3 its small some time typo for me
Some issue in the screen greeny but mine still look ok but when you open color dark grey yiu will see thats green color show up
If i have change im gonna sell or switch this phone to samsung s10
I replaced a Nexus 6 with a Pixel 3. The wife has an original Pixel, and sees no reason up update to the 3. If I HAD to buy a phone today, I would still get the P3, but I sure would not upgrade from a P2 at this time. I don't think the 3a is going to have anything to offer you - I might look at getting my son one because the Moto X4 is getting long in the tooth, but would only consider it if in the $300 range.
IMO the 50% off deal from Fi last week (making the phone $399) was worth it, but I wouldn't do it for $200 off. The phone is under powered/slow. The 3a is going make a slow phone even slower, so definitely would avoid that like the plague.
mdmogren said:
IMO the 50% off deal from Fi last week (making the phone $399) was worth it, but I wouldn't do it for $200 off. The phone is under powered/slow. The 3a is going make a slow phone even slower, so definitely would avoid that like the plague.
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I got my Pixel 3 during that sale. For $429(tax included) this phone is so worth it at that price.
yes definitely.. can't see around another pretty compact phone as good as p3
Nope. Not at the current price. Average hardware and average form factor, regional software enhancements(call screen, etc great I'd you're n.america but ****.outaide of that), tons of continuing bugs and issues.
I'd wait and get the oneplus 7 where you're at least gonna get more bang for the buck
Xdevillived666 said:
Nope. Not at the current price. Average hardware and average form factor, regional software enhancements(call screen, etc great I'd you're n.america but ****.outaide of that), tons of continuing bugs and issues.
I'd wait and get the oneplus 7 where you're at least gonna get more bang for the buck
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op7 with edged screen? no thanks lol
I'm literally having 0 issues or problems with my p3, but that's maybe due to the fact I'm running custom...? ( i got rid of stock since day 1) dunno..
FcukBloat said:
op7 with edged screen? no thanks lol
I'm literally having 0 issues or problems with my p3, but that's maybe due to the fact I'm running custom...? ( i got rid of stock since day 1) dunno..
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Neither am I so far but lots of users are. It's not very good for Googles rep/the consumer to have as many issues as these phones have been having at such a high price point. They wanna be premium they need to offer it by doing better than what I previously mentioned.
For a good deal yes! I bought the p3 when it was half off. Phone has been very snappy despite having 3x less ram than my previous OnePlus 6t McLaren. But for full retail not worth it for me
Just traded my OP6 8/128 for a Pixel 3. Half the RAM Is the only thing that sometimes bother me on certain situations. But overall is really snappy, and the touch latency Is the best I've ever had on an android device... Camera is spectacular. But, if you have the Pixel 2 i wouldn't bother and wait for the P4.
Compare to S10/S10 Plus, I would say its good deal. So... Why not?
The 3a looks promising as well, maybe that's the more adequate purchase
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The 3a looks promising as well, maybe that's the more adequate purchase
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only problem is the front cam.. in regular p3 it is simply wonderful, in 3a it is a clear downgrade.. but if you don't use it that much no problem..

What's your next phone purchase?

I like this device but it's a little slow for me at some points. It's not a shot at this device which I consider a decent value but I'm retty sure I'm going to move into something else, possibly this fall. That something being the Pixel 4, I like everything about it so far except I would have preferred a symmetrical bottom/top bezel. If I don't bolt this fall the spring is a near certainty but I've got no guess what might be the more interesting devices at that point. What about you folks, happy enough to have not considered it? Thinking about moving to the next thing? If so, what?
I might get the Pixel 4. It depends on what they do with ram and the cameras. I would like a telephoto lens on the back but so far I've been reading the second sensor may be a wide angle one.
Sent from my Pixel 3a XL using XDA Labs
Google confirmed 3, wide angle, telephoto, and infrared. The last seems to be a bit of a mystery as to what it's going to be doing, some think it's for improving night shots but no one seems to know exactly what all it might do.
The 4a XL on a free trade, but might have to wait a bit...
ill get whatever phone is notchless and has a headphone jack
i got the pixel 3a xl for that exact reason, im sick of seeing bullet holes and notches on phones
I just read an updated article about the Goog leak and I need to make a correction, it's a spectral sensor, not infrared. My apologies for the misinformation. I'm still probably in, I've no idea what spectral is but it sounds like something I want.
Google self released preliminary images of the Pixel 4, and I got to say the square bump-out that holds two back cameras and a flash LED does not look great, either from Apple or Google. There was previous renderings of a slick smooth back with a flat oval that contained the cameras that that looked much more impressive. Consensus was that was a cool clean design. The feedback on what was recently released, not so much.
Copying Apple designs by itself does not guarantee success. The previous design looked original, however what they put out now just looks like another Apple clone...
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Google self released preliminary images of the Pixel 4, and I got to say the square bump-out that holds two back cameras and a flash LED does not look great, either from Apple or Google. There was previous renderings of a slick smooth back with a flat oval that contained the cameras that that looked much more impressive. Consensus was that was a cool clean design. The feedback on what was recently released, not so much.
Copying Apple designs by itself does not guarantee success. The previous design looked original, however what they put out now just looks like another Apple clone...
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ah who cares what the back looks like. put a case on it.
Sent from my Pixel 3a XL using Tapatalk
Looks like the base stats are starting to get out there and the Pixel 4 is more and more shaping up to become my next phone. If Samsung hadn't made it such a pain to root I might consider the Note 10 but after suffering through the 8 I'm pretty much done with them unless a very unlikely turn around comes in their policies. These are really the only two that have been pinging on my radar, seems like their should be more but there is always some catch with phones nowadays...
I'm just hoping the hideous notched display and useless curved edge display era is over across the next generation of phones. It definitely limited my choices this go around because I'm not into gimmicks over practicality; but hey - that's just me.
The pixel 4 looks nice so far, and more OEMs are starting to ditch the display notches as well, so at least we'll have better options coming around in the future.
Yeah, no question, I didn't make friends with notches and at this point I'm sure I never will. Only had one as it turned out, the 6T, which didn't kill me but I never stopped noticing it as some people say they do.
Possibly the Pixel 4 but if ASUS gets the Zenfone 6 out soon in Canada I may get it.
Can you root those?
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Possibly the Pixel 4 but if ASUS gets the Zenfone 6 out soon in Canada I may get it.
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I stick with Google. Got the 3a XL on Friday after dropping my 2 XL on hard concrete :crying:
The software is the best I have ever seen on phones, I just root the phone and call it a day. Easy updates every month. No hassle.
This is worth more to me than screen-to-body-ratio or industrial design or whatnot. Crappy or outdated software ruins everything anyways.
But YMMW, just an opinion
I wouldn't mind the faster Snapdragon 855 over our 670, but I do admit my 3a XL is mostly good enough speed wise.
So... Air gestures and face ID confirmed on the Pix 4 today. I'm so in...
Ill get the pixel 4a xl. Basically the lighter version of pixel 4xl with some minor upgrades battery and screen size,for example i dont need the face recognition ,a finger print scanner is fine,and i dont need 4 cameras one 16 back and 16 front is fine with me ,mind you im a mobile photographer.And a simple plastic white back no glass cause i really dont use wireless charging and the lastic does not feel far from the glass back of the pixel 3.Tbh the android 10 almost is the perfect os for me so no extra stuff there.What i really want to have is bokah on video and real time captions and translation ,but im sure google has that on lock
I wouldn't want to guess how Goog will gimp the A versions to make them "mid range" devices. I sure didn't see them leaving the cool live wallpaper out on the 3A's as an example.
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ill get whatever phone is notchless and has a headphone jack
i got the pixel 3a xl for that exact reason, im sick of seeing bullet holes and notches on phones
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Here here to that ?
I've decided to get a OnePlus 7 Pro. I just can't see paying $1,000+ for a Pixel 4 XL. I like my 3A XL, but it is slow, honestly, and just not up to the performance I want out of a smartphone.
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Why I'm Thrilled about the Pixel 5

I know many are disappointed with seemingly mediocre specs for a flagship, but I'm very happy with the design choices in the Pixel 5. Here's why:
Aluminum body. I've had enough of the completely impractical "premium" glass bodies that crack when you look at them wrong. Finally a return to something sensible.
Flat OLED. Seems like every flagship has to have curved edges. I haven't seen one phone yet that didn't have imperfections in the curve or drive me crazy with errant touches on the edges. Simple is better.
Return of the fingerprint scanner
NO NOTCH
Reasonable size. It seems like the flagship race always equates "bigger" with "better". I don't subscribe to that theory, and I'm glad to see a more modest size for the Pixel 5.
I do wish it had the Snapdragon 865, Wifi 6, and the telephoto lens, but every other choice was perfect IMO. Even with the CPU, I'm sure that choice was about cost, so it might be the right cost/performance trade-off to go with the 765G. Time will tell, I suppose.
What are your thoughts? Do you feel like this was a step backward or does anyone else feel the same about these design choices?
The form factor is what really sold me. Almost identical to the Essential (RIP)
Coming from the Pixel 4, the Pixel 5 has all of the changes I desire. Making it a no brainer, for me.
Lower power chipset / Less PPI / Larger battery -- All culminating to improved battery life. Probably by a good margin, in daily use.
No Active Edge / No Soli -- I disabled Active Edge and motion sense long ago as I found them more annoying than useful. I imagine not having the Soli chip will help to improve battery life even further.
Rear fingerprint reader -- YES!! These days I'm wearing a mask majority of the time I'm trying to use my phone, rendering face unlock useless. Having the fingerprint reader on the back is VERY welcomed.
Wide Angle Camera -- Another great addition. I don't need improved zoom quality. I need to be able to fit more content into a single picture.
The Pixel 5 is an improvement over the Pixel 4 in every way, in my opinion.
@sn0warmy Side note: your device history is what I wish mine looked like...
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@sn0warmy Side note: your device history is what I wish mine looked like...
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It's been a fun journey. I still remember the day I unboxed my Nexus One, right after it was launched. That was a special feeling and it opened the door into the crazy world of rooting/tinkering on Android devices. 10 years later, I'm making significantly more money with a lot more expensive toys and hobbies. Yet, Pixel launch day still gets me excited, every single year. It's the kid in me that will never grow up. :highfive:
All theses features in a 6' phone, it's perfect. I don't enjoy crazy big phones...
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@sn0warmy from someone that had the 3 XL - I hope this is a huge improvement as that is my current phone. I have pre-ordered it. What are your thoughts, 3 XL vs P5 (obv you can't say too much besides basing it on specs).
I'm going to get the pixel 5. Currently using 4 XL. My dilemma is that if Google will flash the prices by black Friday like last year. So I may wait till Thanksgiving.
Great price for pixel 5 though
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@sn0warmy from someone that had the 3 XL - I hope this is a huge improvement as that is my current phone. I have pre-ordered it. What are your thoughts, 3 XL vs P5 (obv you can't say too much besides basing it on specs).
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The 3XL was a great phone. But I've come to prefer smaller phones. Which is why I went from the 3XL to the 4 (non-XL). The Pixel 4 is a much better size for daily use, for me. So the Pixel 5 is going to be a great size, as well.
As far as features and specs...
1) The Pixel 5 has 2x the amount of RAM as the 3XL. I've come to learn that more RAM is much more crucial to having a consistently smooth experience over time, rather than having a top of the line processor. So the Snapdragon 765G in the Pixel 5 doesn't concern me in the least bit.
2) The Pixel 5 has a 4000mAh battery, which is nearly an 18% increase in capacity, compared to the 3400mAh battery in the 3XL. the Pixel 5 also has a 6.0" display, vs the 6.3" in the 3XL. But the Pixel 5 is also pushing more total pixels, so that may actually be a hit to battery life, between the two phones. Regardless, the Pixel 5 battery should outlast the 3XL battery by a decent margin.
3) Pictures taken with your Pixel 5 will be better than the 3XL. Will it be a huge improvement? Probably not. But it will be an improvement, nonetheless.
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I'm going to get the pixel 5. Currently using 4 XL. My dilemma is that if Google will flash the prices by black Friday like last year. So I may wait till Thanksgiving.
Great price for pixel 5 though
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That's actually a really good point, which I failed to consider. Last year Google dropped the price of the Pixel 4 by $200 over Black Friday weekend. It irritated a lot of people.
However, last year Google overestimated demand for the Pixel 4 by almost 30% (SOURCE). They were forced to unload inventory, hence the big price drops over Black Friday weekend and again in January, 2020. This year Google is being much more realistic about the total number of units they expect to sell and have adjusted production accordingly.
I do imagine you'll see some sort of promotion for the Pixel 5 over Black Friday weekend. It's in the best interest of online retailers to offer some sort of promotion when buyers are looking for the best deals. Fun fact: Many big name online retailers will generate upwards of 20% of their total yearly online revenue, just over Black Friday weekend.
With that said, I'll be very surprised if Google drops the price by $200 again. If I were a betting man, I'd wager that over Black Friday weekend you'll be able to snag a Pixel 5 for $75 - $100 off. Worst case, it will likely be a "Gift With Purchase" promotion, in which they give you a new Chromecast ($50 value) when you buy the Pixel 5.
@sn0warmy great. Exactly what I was thinking. Overall should be a better experience than the 3 XL especially due to the RAM increase. Looking forward to getting it.
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I'll be picking up a Pixel 5 a few updates down the road (gotta make sure the bugs and issues are worked out first). The Pixel 4 was a bust. It appears the Pixel 5 fixes all the things that went wrong there. I would get the 4a but it's plastic and not water repellant which is a non-starter.
I don't like bigger phones and coming from a Pixel 2 I think the 5 is just right with more screen real estate. The face unlock feature was just as ridiculous as the notch. So glad they are gone. Looks like I'll be able to pick the phone up and unlock it with the finger print sensor just like before (too easy).
As for the processor, they are so fast these days, they could have told you it was the faster chip and you would never have known. Most people don't do anything so intense that they really need all that extra umph anyway and if it lowers the price of a Google phone, great!
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Coming from the Pixel 4, the Pixel 5 has all of the changes I desire. Making it a no brainer, for me.
Lower power chipset / Less PPI / Larger battery -- All culminating to improved battery life. Probably by a good margin, in daily use.
No Active Edge / No Soli -- I disabled Active Edge and motion sense long ago as I found them more annoying than useful. I imagine not having the Soli chip will help to improve battery life even further.
Rear fingerprint reader -- YES!! These days I'm wearing a mask majority of the time I'm trying to use my phone, rendering face unlock useless. Having the fingerprint reader on the back is VERY welcomed.
Wide Angle Camera -- Another great addition. I don't need improved zoom quality. I need to be able to fit more content into a single picture.
The Pixel 5 is an improvement over the Pixel 4 in every way, in my opinion.
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I'm with you on the bigger battery and lower PPI (really lower resolution) to help with battery life but I wish it had the 865 chip. The processor doesn't even have a big impact on battery life when compared to the screen.
I don't care about Soli but I'm really going to miss the active edge. I don't know why you're happy that's gone when you can disable it anyways. Sometimes I like to use the assistant and make sure it's on my phone even if I have other nearby devices. Without active edge the only way to do that is to swipe diagonally from the corners which doesn't work like 75% of the time.
I'm also with you on the rear fingerprint reader. I didn't own a Pixel 4 but I did spend a day with one and the face unlock was awful.
For the camera I'd much rather have a telephoto than a wide angle. The wide angle basically useless to me. I have very often wish I could get closer to the subject of the photo but I've never wish I could get farther away.
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flamadiddle said:
I know many are disappointed with seemingly mediocre specs for a flagship, but I'm very happy with the design choices in the Pixel 5. Here's why:
Aluminum body. I've had enough of the completely impractical "premium" glass bodies that crack when you look at them wrong. Finally a return to something sensible.
Flat OLED. Seems like every flagship has to have curved edges. I haven't seen one phone yet that didn't have imperfections in the curve or drive me crazy with errant touches on the edges. Simple is better.
Return of the fingerprint scanner
NO NOTCH
Reasonable size. It seems like the flagship race always equates "bigger" with "better". I don't subscribe to that theory, and I'm glad to see a more modest size for the Pixel 5.
I do wish it had the Snapdragon 865, Wifi 6, and the telephoto lens, but every other choice was perfect IMO. Even with the CPU, I'm sure that choice was about cost, so it might be the right cost/performance trade-off to go with the 765G. Time will tell, I suppose.
What are your thoughts? Do you feel like this was a step backward or does anyone else feel the same about these design choices?
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I'm really happy about the aluminum back.
I actually like the feel of the curved edges on my Pixel 2 XL but I honestly don't really carry either way.
It doesn't have a notch but It does have a hole punch which to me is just as bad as the notch. Obstructed screen content is obstructed screen content either way. In fact after learning that the developer option to hide the cutout that was on the Pixel 3 XL isn't on the Pixel 5 has me considering canceling my pre-order.
You make a good point that the flagship race seems to mean bigger is better. I don't even think the Pixel 5 is a modest size I think it's still way too big. I really miss the days of one-handed use and comfortable pocket ability those days have been gone for years and are unlikely to return.
It would be nice to have an actual fast processor instead of the slow 765 but that I think I could probably deal with. I also really wish they would have kept the telephoto of the Pixel 4 instead of going to the wide angle. Or just have three lenses like other phones even at the same price point.
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I don't care about Soli but I'm really going to miss the active edge. I don't know why you're happy that's gone when you can disable it anyways.
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I wouldn't say I'm "happy" it's gone. Rather, I found it to be of little or no use. So removal of the associated hardware, which very well could have negatively impacted the battery, even when disabled, is perfectly fine with me.
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I wouldn't say I'm "happy" it's gone. Rather, I found it to be of little or no use. So removal of the associated hardware, which very well could have negatively impacted the battery, even when disabled, is perfectly fine with me.
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Yeah on stock it was really useless. On custom rom you could assign apps of actions to it which was really good. I think I am going to miss it
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I wouldn't say I'm "happy" it's gone. Rather, I found it to be of little or no use. So removal of the associated hardware, which very well could have negatively impacted the battery, even when disabled, is perfectly fine with me.
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It was essentially just a physical button. It wouldn't be a drain on the battery anymore than the volume buttons would is. Now there is no reliable way to activate the Google Assistant without voice which would trigger other near by devices too. That really sucks.
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It was essentially just a physical button. It wouldn't be a drain on the battery anymore than the volume buttons would is. Now there is no reliable way to activate the Google Assistant without voice which would trigger other near by devices too. That really sucks.
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Most likely due to the aluminum frame. Sad anyway
Benjamin_L said:
Most likely due to the aluminum frame. Sad anyway
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What is mostly due to the aluminum frame?
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What is mostly due to the aluminum frame?
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Getting rid of active edge I meant. Maybe I am also imagining it the wrong way.
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Getting rid of active edge I meant. Maybe I am also imagining it the wrong way.
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Having an aluminum frame doesn't have an impact on Active Edge. The Pixel 2 was the first phone to have Active Edge and it's aluminum.
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Having an aluminum frame doesn't have an impact on Active Edge. The Pixel 2 was the first phone to have Active Edge and it's aluminum.
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Hmm too bad they got rid of it then. Do we know yet who builds the P5?

Question Will you give up your Pixel 7 Pro for Pixel Fold if all the Specs are same?

The Title says it all. Now that we are within couple days of knowing more about the Pixel Fold, Would you Trade your Pixel 7 Pro for a Pixel Fold if the specs are exactly the same? Considering the Price is Double and the Trade-In value is pretty good?
Nope. Too expensive, and it is a "first generation" fold from Google. Not to mention, it will probably have the crease down the middle. Maybe a Gen2 or 3 but not a gen 1
The price is outrageous for something that looks like a functioning prototype.
Prediction: Pixel Fold will be an epic failure.
Absolutely not....simply because I'm not a fan of the foldable design. I'll prob end up going for the p8 though if the trade in value is as good as if was for last gen.
No, not interested in foldable devices. The bend on the screen is unacceptable for me.
And the display will be probably prone to scratches.
No way. The money is not worth any device, much less one with old hardware
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No, not interested in foldable devices. The bend on the screen is unacceptable for me.
And the display will be probably prone to scratches.
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Yep. That creased screen... I don't know how there is anyone who isn't bothered about buying an $1800 device with a screen that would be considered defective on any other device out of the box
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Yep. That creased screen... I don't know how there is anyone who isn't bothered about buying an $1800 device with a screen that would be considered defective on any other device out of the box
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Have you actually used a folding phone? Yes the crease is there and yes you can feel it. But you only see it when the screen is off, when using it you can't see it at all. I agree folding phones are extremely expensive and if they are to become mainstream then the price needs to come down
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Have you actually used a folding phone? Yes the crease is there and yes you can feel it. But you only see it when the screen is off, when using it you can't see it at all. I agree folding phones are extremely expensive and if they are to become mainstream then the price needs to come down
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I'll always know that it's there though. It's one of those things that once you see it, you can't unsee it.
No point in buying outdated specs when Tensor G3 should be a sizable improvement.
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No point in buying outdated specs when Tensor G3 should be a sizable improvement.
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I agree.
I'm waiting for the P8 series to release so that we can see how much of an overall performance difference (heat generation/output, battery life, etc) there is. Plus, if the overall performance difference is miniscule, then the Fold should still be available at a much better price since the next generation of Pixel phones will be available. And, of course, if the price of the Fold doesn't change right away once the P8 series is released, it almost certainly will after a few more weeks pass and it's Black Friday, haha.
No. Maybe the pixel 8 Pro for the flat screen
Another simple: No!!
I do not even want a folding phone crap !!
invent flexible glass first and than maybe I will think about it.
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No never! But i am considering trading my fold 4. But I'm gonna wait and see if it turns out to be really good. (doesn't even have to be great)
Definitely not! looks way to wide when closed to hold comfortably horrid bezels on the large screen and still noticable crease line ,Gen 1 foldable for me and for that price , definitely be waiting for P8P
Nope, I never liked folding phones and probably won't.
I look at the foldables....choke on the price...see a screen that can be damaged by my fingernail...and walk away. I see no way for them to ever have a tougher screen. The materials do not exist - yet. So I highly doubt that I will ever buy any foldable cell phone.

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