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VZM Unlocking with month-to-month payment?

Hi i'm new here. and i need a little help.
lately i'm interested in buying the verizon touch pro 2 with the so called month-to-month plan since i will only stay here for a few months. i've read some posts here that, if i want vzm to actually unlock the gsm slot, i must stay in their network for at least 6 months. have i got it right?
if that's the case, is there other way i can let vzm unlock this phone for me? say, if a friend of mine has been a verizon user for quite a long time, can i let him request for the unlock code, although the phone is not from his contract?
thanks!

I am new to verizon. I just unlocked my phone with a company called UniquePhones. Cost was $20. This company got the code to me tonite in less than 20 min. I have 3G data on T Mobile and Edge on ATT. Will keep a TM card in for tethering.
Verizon stated it could not unlock for 60 days. This is to protect me against fraud.

hmbfuze said:
I am new to verizon. I just unlocked my phone with a company called UniquePhones. Cost was $20. This company got the code to me tonite in less than 20 min. I have 3G data on T Mobile and Edge on ATT. Will keep a TM card in for tethering.
Verizon stated it could not unlock for 60 days. This is to protect me against fraud.
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can i just buy the phone in full price but do NOT use verizon? for me i'm just interested in the phone iteself, vzm, not so much.

This is something I would like to know too.

New S4 for $330...Seems A Bargain

Just read on Androidpolice Cricket are offering a $200 rebate on the s4. So similar price to the Nexus 4
www.androidpolice.com/2013/06/08/de...laxy-s-iii-and-htc-one-sv-via-mail-in-rebate/
And there are great deals on other phones too. www.mycricket.com/cell-phones?cm_sp=hero-_-423-_-OOF_1
Sorry if this has already been posted

Almost jumped at the offer...but then I remembered Cricket wireless is a CDMA carrier and I want to use T-Mobile, so unless they're selling a factory unlocked phone it would be pointless for me to buy it.

Suchomimus said:
Almost jumped at the offer...but then I remembered Cricket wireless is a CDMA carrier and I want to use T-Mobile, so unless they're selling a factory unlocked phone it would be pointless for me to buy it.
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I'm in UK so don't know the differences you have over there.....wish it was that price over here though

Can that be trusted? Seems too cheap.

villapark75 said:
I'm in UK so don't know the differences you have over there.....wish it was that price over here though
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CDMA is typically for US LTE vands. It's what Verizon/Sprint use, and basically it means the phone won't work on GSM netowrks (T-Mobile/AT&T). It's far more restrictive, and you can't just pop in a SIM card and use the phone as you wish.
frrlod said:
Can that be trusted? Seems too cheap.
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There seems to be a couple of catches.
-The fine print says that you need to make two auto-bill payments to Cricket wireless, which depending on the plan you pick, is $70-100. It also means you must be on Cricket wireless service for 45 days before you can cancel and use the phone on another carrier, which if it's a CDMA phone, means no T-Mobile/AT&T.
-The rebate offer could be several months before you get it in the mail.

There is a lot of T-Mobile branded V20's on Swappa right now.

Like 23 right now compare that to 6 AT&T and 7 Verizon branded units. What exactly is the deal with T-Mobile?

maybe people who are stuck in twrp bootloop?

Tmobile service sucks maybe
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Sub-Negro said:
Like 23 right now compare that to 6 AT&T and 7 Verizon branded units. What exactly is the deal with T-Mobile?
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A good number of All but one of 'em are unopened/New,they probably bought 'em to take advantage of the $200 Rebate & headphone offers.
As long as they have a net gain from purchase price/rebate/sale price,I suppose it's a worthwhile endeavor.........

KOLIOSIS said:
A good number of All but one of 'em are unopened/New,they probably bought 'em to take advantage of the $200 Rebate & headphone offers.
As long as they have a net gain from purchase price/rebate/sale price,I suppose it's a worthwhile endeavor.........
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T-Mobile is basically giving these things away. If they used the trade in thing, it makes the phone either free or less than $200. They probably have another phone they are using and don't plan on leaving T-Mobile, so they just got one and are selling it. T-Mobile, effectively, puts you in a contract doing this. They take the price of the phone and give you bill credits for the whole term of the EIP. If you terminate service, you owe the phone. Combine that with the free line promotion they had a few days prior, I am guessing this is what is happening. The contract does not say anything about using the phone. As long as they keep their bill current and keep their service, it will be able to be used (I think...). I would be careful buying one of these V20s in case you are not allowed to use the phone on a line that isn't associated with the account, but that is me being a worry wort.

EDubs11 said:
T-Mobile is basically giving these things away. If they used the trade in thing, it makes the phone either free or less than $200. They probably have another phone they are using and don't plan on leaving T-Mobile, so they just got one and are selling it. T-Mobile, effectively, puts you in a contract doing this. They take the price of the phone and give you bill credits for the whole term of the EIP. If you terminate service, you owe the phone. Combine that with the free line promotion they had a few days prior, I am guessing this is what is happening. The contract does not say anything about using the phone. As long as they keep their bill current and keep their service, it will be able to be used (I think...). I would be careful buying one of these V20s in case you are not allowed to use the phone on a line that isn't associated with the account, but that is me being a worry wort.
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Swappa won't let you sell a phone that still has anything owed on it. They check the IMEI.
I assume the bill credits wouldn't affect this as long as the phone is free and clear.

Sub-Negro said:
Like 23 right now compare that to 6 AT&T and 7 Verizon branded units. What exactly is the deal with T-Mobile?
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I bought one unopened for $485. It was purchased with the T-mobile employee discount for $285.

Evilv2 said:
I bought one unopened for $485. It was purchased with the T-mobile employee discount for $285.
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Nice find,congratulations! ?
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KOLIOSIS said:
Nice find,congratulations!
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I assume lot of the unopened were bought with significant discounts. They are being sold for $500 +/- $15.

Watch out t-mobile is the carrier that's gets the lg partner purchase program phones. They can not be carrier unlocked. That's why there up and cheap.

aknotts415 said:
Watch out t-mobile is the carrier that's gets the lg partner purchase program phones. They can not be carrier unlocked. That's why there up and cheap.
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I'm guessing you can use a paid SIM Unlock service to override this........................

KOLIOSIS said:
I'm guessing you can use a paid SIM Unlock service to override this........................
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Won't work. When they go to get the unlock code from T-Mobile the imei isn't in their system so they can't get it and it can't be done. Trust me. I've seen this happen on the v10 and g5. Just look it up.

aknotts415 said:
Won't work. When they go to get the unlock code from T-Mobile the imei isn't in their system so they can't get it and it can't be done. Trust me. I've seen this happen on the v10 and g5. Just look it up.
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If that's the case, I'd think the sellers would know better than to post a listing on Swappa.
Guess we'll find out soon enough how many of the listings are fraudulent.....

KOLIOSIS said:
If that's the case, I'd think the sellers would know better than to post a listing on Swappa.
Guess we'll find out soon enough how many of the listings are fraudulent.....
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There not fraudulent. Not sure why u think that. Theres nothing wrong with selling lg partner purchase program phones. They just can't be carrier unlocked and the sellers don't go out of their way to tell you. They just say their not sure.

aknotts415 said:
There not fraudulent. Not sure why u think that. Theres nothing wrong with selling lg partner purchase program phones. They just can't be carrier unlocked and the sellers don't go out of their way to tell you. They just say their not sure.
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Full disclosure is a given when selling on Swappa,anything less would be fraudulent,if not to the letter of the rules,it certainly would be in spirit/practice.
This is some good information though,glad you brought it up. :good:
I'm betting a lot of folks have never heard of such a thing.

Yeah ur right. Lol I wast trying to buy a v10 and g5 earlier this year and ran into this situation. Very difficult to deal with. Most sellers selling them do t really understand them selves and they blame T-Mobile. It probly is T-Mobile fault since it's branded T-Mobile. Just want everyone to be aware they can't be unlocked, even a third party unlock service can't. Having it on ur account for 40 days doesnt matter either. It's a crappy situation lol

aknotts415 said:
Yeah ur right. Lol I wast trying to buy a v10 and g5 earlier this year and ran into this situation. Very difficult to deal with. Most sellers selling them do t really understand them selves and they blame T-Mobile. It probly is T-Mobile fault since it's branded T-Mobile. Just want everyone to be aware they can't be unlocked, even a third party unlock service can't. Having it on ur account for 40 days doesnt matter either. It's a crappy situation lol
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I'd heard of employee deals/mfg-partner phones/etc..,but,I didn't know about the SIM Unlocking issue.
Again,many THX for bringing this up,you've no doubt saved some people a lot of trouble. :highfive:
FWIW,here's Swappa's policy on clean ESN's:
https://swappa.com/faq/sell/share_esn_numbers
Bulletproof,no,but,it sounds as if they're doing their due dilligence w/researching the ESN/IMEI,perhaps w/more tools than the general public is armed with.
Some sharp individuals here on XDA/Swappa running the show,I'm guessing/hoping they have this scenario covered,enough to ensure the buyers are protected in a worse-case scenario.

A little bit off topic, can you get square trade insurance for phones purchased at swappa?

aknotts415 said:
Yeah ur right. Lol I wast trying to buy a v10 and g5 earlier this year and ran into this situation. Very difficult to deal with. Most sellers selling them do t really understand them selves and they blame T-Mobile. It probly is T-Mobile fault since it's branded T-Mobile. Just want everyone to be aware they can't be unlocked, even a third party unlock service can't. Having it on ur account for 40 days doesnt matter either. It's a crappy situation lol
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Um I'm not trying to be a pain but I bought my G5 from Tmobile and had it unlocked in 24 hours as I was traveling out of the country. I used the app on the phone and the code the rep gave me. I've traveled to 7 countries since then and used sim cards from each one no problem.

seanmfield said:
Um I'm not trying to be a pain but I bought my G5 from Tmobile and had it unlocked in 24 hours as I was traveling out of the country. I used the app on the phone and the code the rep gave me. I've traveled to 7 countries since then and used sim cards from each one no problem.
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Ur probly wasn't a lg partner purchase program one then lol.

Verizon bootloader

Now that today is the official release of the pixel 2 and instead of speculations is it confirmed that bootloader can't be unlocked on Verizon edition phones?

Here's the thing..... Unless you're credit is HORRIFIC.... Google store should approve you to finance through them....so what's the point of getting it through Verizon only to be locked?

318sugarhill said:
Here's the thing..... Unless you're credit is HORRIFIC.... Google store should approve you to finance through them....so what's the point of getting it through Verizon only to be locked?
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I'm buying it outright but the kinda blue color is what I'm thinking of and if the bootloader can't be locked the Google store I go

318sugarhill said:
Here's the thing..... Unless you're credit is HORRIFIC.... Google store should approve you to finance through them....so what's the point of getting it through Verizon only to be locked?
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It's not Google store that does the financing. It's a third party and they do a credit check, set you up with an account, and then send you all kinds of offers and credit limits. No thanks. I'd rather just do the monthly from Verizon if you don't care about bootloader. If you want to unlock the bl then you have no choice. Either pay outright or finance from a credit agency.

bobby janow said:
It's not Google store that does the financing. It's a third party and they do a credit check, set you up with an account, and then send you all kinds of offers and credit limits. No thanks. I'd rather just do the monthly from Verizon if you don't care about bootloader. If you want to unlock the bl then you have no choice. Either pay outright or finance from a credit agency.
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First.... Symantics. Second, too get that Verizon account you had to go through a credit check and you think Verizon isn't selling your information? Or hasn't already?
It's 6 of 1, half dozen of the other. The monthly finance payment is the same. I did the device payment through Verizon because Best buy offered me $100 gift card and depixel 8 was out to unlock the Verizon bootloader. Otherwise it would have been Google store all the way.
Your statement is just an expansion of every minute detail but bottom line is the same. Synchrony bank vs Verizon financing. Still the same monthly phone payment. If you need to compartmentalize it to justify one way or another doesn't really change the reality

318sugarhill said:
First.... Symantics. Second, too get that Verizon account you had to go through a credit check and you think Verizon isn't selling your information? Or hasn't already?
It's 6 of 1, half dozen of the other. The monthly finance payment is the same. I did the device payment through Verizon because Best buy offered me $100 gift card and depixel 8 was out to unlock the Verizon bootloader. Otherwise it would have been Google store all the way.
Your statement is just an expansion of every minute detail but bottom line is the same. Synchrony bank vs Verizon financing. Still the same monthly phone payment. If you need to compartmentalize it to justify one way or another doesn't really change the reality
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Well naturally if you don't already have a Verizon account then it would be ridiculous to set one up just to buy this phone. I didn't think we were talking about that but the fact of opening another credit account when one already exists. The discussion though it really about bootloaders. If you have a Verizon account (let's just assume most reading this do) then if you don't need to root the device why not go through Verizon? I'm just not seeing the reason to open another credit account with a limit of 3k, which I believe is the default of Synchrony.
Whether or not any company sells your information is well beyond the scope of this discussion and a debate I'm not willing to get into. But I would like to know if a Verizon model bought from Google is able to be bl unlocked. I haven't seen the definitive answer yet but I'm sure it's coming very soon.

i just got my google pixel 2 XL in the mail. i took out the verizon sim card that was already in there and put in my tmobile sim. i turned on the phone and skipped past all the prompts to get to the home screen. i then went to developer options to see if oem unlock is greyed out and it is. i did a factory reset with tmobile sim in just for good measure but it's still greyed out.

freebee269 said:
i just got my google pixel 2 XL in the mail. i took out the verizon sim card that was already in there and put in my tmobile sim. i turned on the phone and skipped past all the prompts to get to the home screen. i then went to developer options to see if oem unlock is greyed out and it is. i did a factory reset with tmobile sim in just for good measure but it's still greyed out.
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So to clarify.. you bought a Verizon branded phone from Google and not from Verizon right? Did you connect to the network after putting in the TM sim? Those are 2 very important facts.

bobby janow said:
So to clarify.. you bought a Verizon branded phone from Google and not from Verizon right? Did you connect to the network after putting in the TM sim? Those are 2 very important facts.
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i thought the question in the OP was about a verizon bootloader meaning a phone got from verizon. the one i have came from verizon. my tmobile is still active so when i put it in it automatically connected to tmobiles network.

freebee269 said:
i just got my google pixel 2 XL in the mail. i took out the verizon sim card that was already in there and put in my tmobile sim. i turned on the phone and skipped past all the prompts to get to the home screen. i then went to developer options to see if oem unlock is greyed out and it is. i did a factory reset with tmobile sim in just for good measure but it's still greyed out.
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Thank you that's the answer I was looking for...crappy

freebee269 said:
i thought the question in the OP was about a verizon bootloader meaning a phone got from verizon. the one i have came from verizon. my tmobile is still active so when i put it in it automatically connected to tmobiles network.
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Ok, thanks. We have determined that Verizon bought phones are and will be bootloader locked. However, we're trying to determine if Google bought Verizon phones are locked as well.

bobby janow said:
Ok, thanks. We have determined that Verizon bought phones are and will be bootloader locked. However, we're trying to determine if Google bought Verizon phones are locked as well.
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Would be good to know this as well... Maybe even the ones from the pop up stores

ouikikazz said:
Would be good to know this as well... Maybe even the ones from the pop up stores
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Wasn't the Pixel in the same position and anything Verizon related whether the store or fr Verizon the same?
My money is it will be locked. Why would Verizon go through he trouble for exclusive especially a color if it could be bought elsewhere without the same restrictions?
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bobby janow said:
Well naturally if you don't already have a Verizon account then it would be ridiculous to set one up just to buy this phone. I didn't think we were talking about that but the fact of opening another credit account when one already exists. The discussion though it really about bootloaders. If you have a Verizon account (let's just assume most reading this do) then if you don't need to root the device why not go through Verizon? I'm just not seeing the reason to open another credit account with a limit of 3k, which I believe is the default of Synchrony.
Whether or not any company sells your information is well beyond the scope of this discussion and a debate I'm not willing to get into. But I would like to know if a Verizon model bought from Google is able to be bl unlocked. I haven't seen the definitive answer yet but I'm sure it's coming very soon.
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I hear you... But my point remains the same. 99.9% chance Verizon model gets locked. No reason to believe pixel 2 will be different than the original in that regard. So..... For ZERO difference in price or payment you get an unlocked bootloader or a locked one. jcase has been saying for years.... If you want an unlocked phone... Buy an unlocked phone. He's right. The ability to unlock through an exploit ultimately makes the device less secure for everyone. Me I take the choice to unlock mine.... So I'll go the hassle of synchrony credit to get the phone on device payments

Tidbits said:
Wasn't the Pixel in the same position and anything Verizon related whether the store or fr Verizon the same?
My money is it will be locked. Why would Verizon go through he trouble for exclusive especially a color if it could be bought elsewhere without the same restrictions?
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I can think of one reason. If you bought it from Google then they are not responsible for any incursions into the bootloader or bricks. Even hardware problems they can just say "Hey you didn't buy it from us so call your vendor." I believe that if the bootloader is unlocked somehow on a Verizon model then they can also say you voided your warranty although I don't believe it will be unlocked anytime in the near future.

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I can think of one reason. If you bought it from Google then they are not responsible for any incursions into the bootloader or bricks. Even hardware problems they can just say "Hey you didn't buy it from us so call your vendor." I believe that if the bootloader is unlocked somehow on a Verizon model then they can also say you voided your warranty although I don't believe it will be unlocked anytime in the near future.
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Then why even go with the exclusive deal and leave it like they did with the 5X/6P? Why was the original pixel intended for Verizon no matter where it was purchased was locked down?
I don't see this time around being different. It'll be locked down and have to wait for an exploit to be found to unlock it.
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318sugarhill said:
I hear you... But my point remains the same. 99.9% chance Verizon model gets locked. No reason to believe pixel 2 will be different than the original in that regard. So..... For ZERO difference in price or payment you get an unlocked bootloader or a locked one. jcase has been saying for years.... If you want an unlocked phone... Buy an unlocked phone. He's right. The ability to unlock through an exploit ultimately makes the device less secure for everyone. Me I take the choice to unlock mine.... So I'll go the hassle of synchrony credit to get the phone on device payments
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I wholeheartedly agree with you. But of course you know there is a "but" in there. If you want an unlocked bl on a payment plan then you have no option at this time and as you state there is no difference in price. (well other than possibly hurting your credit score by taking out another line of credit) But if you wait until black Friday that ZERO difference in price that you speak of will no longer be that. Now you're talking of possibly a $400 difference like they did last year with no trade in, unlike this years "qualified device trade in". But that is obviously speculation and time will tell.
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Then why even go with the exclusive deal and leave it like they did with the 5X/6P? Why was the original pixel intended for Verizon no matter where it was purchased was locked down?
I don't see this time around being different. It'll be locked down and have to wait for an exploit to be found to unlock it.
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That is a good point. If the Verizon Pixel / XL 2 bought from Google is indeed locked down then it doesn't make sense. Except for the fact that they may not have enough of them like last year? But if the Google bought Verizon 2 is not locked down then all bets are off. Still waiting on confirmation about that.
Just thought of another thing. What if Google wanted in on the finance action for the Verizon version? Maybe that was part of the exclusivity.

Then Verizon would want some control if they are going to give a piece of that pie. Even more reason as to looking down Pixels intended to Verizon.
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Then Verizon would want some control if they are going to give a piece of that pie. Even more reason as to looking down Pixels intended to Verizon.
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I don't know how companies that large operate on things like this. They could even have said to Verizon, we'll give you the exclusive if you give us some selling rights to your network. Could work both ways.

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I don't know how companies that large operate on things like this. They could even have said to Verizon, we'll give you the exclusive if you give us some selling rights to your network. Could work both ways.
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Verizon isn't going to concede money for anything intended for their Network without locking the bootloader. History has proven this.
Google doesn't need rights to Verizon Network.
Fun fact any manufacturer can make a device to work on Verizon. Verizon even has to open source their standards to their Network. Most companies forgo CDMA standards as it is expensive to license which is paid to Qualcomm. So if anything Verizon often pays for this licensing for device makers for certain things in exchange. Like locked bootloader or slight variations to design or options.
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Question How to unlock bootloader, Motorola Stylus G 2021?

I'm trying to use my Moto G Stylus 2021 on T-Mobile but it's locked to Boost Mobile. I bought it with the assumption that since T-Mobile bought Sprint, and Sprint owning Boost, it would work the T-Mobile. Wrong I was and I haven't had the phone for nearly enough time for them to unlock it for me. In the past I've just paid for the service, money is extremely tight right now for me. Any suggestiins would be a lifesaver.

caubol77 said:
I'm trying to use my Moto G Stylus 2021 on T-Mobile but it's locked to Boost Mobile. I bought it with the assumption that since T-Mobile bought Sprint, and Sprint owning Boost, it would work the T-Mobile. Wrong I was and I haven't had the phone for nearly enough time for them to unlock it for me. In the past I've just paid for the service, money is extremely tight right now for me. Any suggestiins would be a lifesaver.
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Is it on a payment plan or did you pay in full? Often, as long as you don't owe anything on it, customer service will unlock it.

I paid for it fully. With Boost Mobile you are expected to have uninterrupted service for 12 months with them in order to have them network unlock a phone.
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Is it on a payment plan or did you pay in full? Often, as long as you don't owe anything on it, customer service will unlock it.
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Boost here, unlocked

Just another word of caution: even though Sprint acquired both, if you live in a rural or somewhat remote location there is a chance that T-Mobile towers in the area might still use cellular technologies that aren't compatible with Boost devices.
I definitely don't have any kinda "expert" knowledge on the current state of their networks. I do however live in the middle of nowhere myself and it typically takes years before network switchovers and upgrades are fully deployed around me. So, just something you might want to ask about before getting too set on this plan. I know where I am T-Mobile (aside from having next to no service) was TDMA and Boost locally *still* uses CDMA.

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Is it on a payment plan or did you pay in full? Often, as long as you don't owe anything on it, customer service will unlock it.
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ShayBox said:
Boost here, unlocked
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I called and they told me no. Am I not asking the right questions or saying the right things to them?

caubol77 said:
I called and they told me no. Am I not asking the right questions or saying the right things to them?
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I went through the run around with them about two weeks ago when I switched to Fi. Took over an hour and having to call again just to get another service rep because the original guy wouldn't stop stalling. Or maybe he had no clue what I was asking him to do. He wouldn't give me my account number for porting my number either.
I'm not sure what other DIY alternatives you have, I don't following the unlocking scene, but I get why you wouldn't wanna shell out $30-$40 bucks for some stranger to mess with your phone.

ShayBox said:
Boost here, unlocked
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brand new here i get all the way to getting unlock code i send command and it gives me 2 options so i use volume down to go to unlock but when i press power button it goes back to previous screen????