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Google Pixel 7 and Pixel 7 Pro teased at I/O 2022
Google has teased both the Pixel 7 and the Pixel 7 Pro at this year's Google I/O, and shared a few tidbits of information, too.
www.xda-developers.com
did they change fingerprint scanner?
nowy57 said:
did they change fingerprint scanner?
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No info on that yet, remains to be seen. We'll know once someone gets their hands on the phone and tears it down.
nowy57 said:
did they change fingerprint scanner?
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In the P7 pro teardown thread the fingerprint scanner has a different hardware number, so it's either an updated version or a different part used.
Don’t worry, the Pixel 7 fingerprint scanner is totally fine
Worried about the Google Pixel 7 fingerprint scanner since the Pixel 6 had so many problems? Don't be, it's just fine.
www.androidauthority.com
And then you have this review:
Pixel 7 Pro review: Google is finally figuring out flagship phones
With its latest Pixel 7 Pro, Google seems to be proving that it's learning lessons and really figuring out how to make flagship phones.
9to5google.com
"This year, though, things are a bit better. Yes, the fingerprint sensor is still much slower than OnePlus and Samsung. You can’t just quickly tap the sensor and immediately unlock the device. But, the accuracy seems to be bumped up just a little bit, as it doesn’t require the same level of muscle memory to get the right position for unlock. Plus, it does feel slightly quicker than last year. It’s roughly on par with the Pixel 6a, which had a few updates over the 6 and 6 Pro."
Edit: I am adding another review. I am currently using an S21 Ultra and am generally happy with it. However, as opposed to leasing (which I have been doing with the S21 ultra) I am looking to buy a phone outright and this phone piques my interest. Failing this, I will either just buy out the remaining balance of the S21 ultra or possibly buy the S23 ultra outright (depending on the reviews but will probably be very iterative)
Google Pixel 7 Pro review: excellent camera, unreliable phone | Digital Trends
The Google Pixel 7 Pro is a subtle refinement over the Pixel 6 Pro, for better and worse. Find out what's hot (and not) in our full Pixel 7 Pro review.
www.digitaltrends.com
"The bad news? The fingerprint sensor doesn’t appear to have improved much at all. Sometimes, it registers my fingerprint just fine and works on the first try. But if it does work, it often takes a beat longer than I’d like it to. And when it doesn’t work, I often have to try a second or a third time before it properly scans my finger. It’s not a deal-breaker, but it’s also not particularly great."
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And then you have this review:
Pixel 7 Pro review: Google is finally figuring out flagship phones
With its latest Pixel 7 Pro, Google seems to be proving that it's learning lessons and really figuring out how to make flagship phones.
9to5google.com
"This year, though, things are a bit better. Yes, the fingerprint sensor is still much slower than OnePlus and Samsung. You can’t just quickly tap the sensor and immediately unlock the device. But, the accuracy seems to be bumped up just a little bit, as it doesn’t require the same level of muscle memory to get the right position for unlock. Plus, it does feel slightly quicker than last year. It’s roughly on par with the Pixel 6a, which had a few updates over the 6 and 6 Pro."
Edit: I am adding another review. I am currently using an S21 Ultra and am generally happy with it. However, as opposed to leasing (which I have been doing with the S21 ultra) I am looking to buy a phone outright and this phone piques my interest. Failing this, I will either just buy out the remaining balance of the S21 ultra or possibly buy the S23 ultra outright (depending on the reviews but will probably be very iterative)
Google Pixel 7 Pro review: excellent camera, unreliable phone | Digital Trends
The Google Pixel 7 Pro is a subtle refinement over the Pixel 6 Pro, for better and worse. Find out what's hot (and not) in our full Pixel 7 Pro review.
www.digitaltrends.com
"The bad news? The fingerprint sensor doesn’t appear to have improved much at all. Sometimes, it registers my fingerprint just fine and works on the first try. But if it does work, it often takes a beat longer than I’d like it to. And when it doesn’t work, I often have to try a second or a third time before it properly scans my finger. It’s not a deal-breaker, but it’s also not particularly great."
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Personally, since I've had Pixel 6 Pro for almost a year now, and my wife too, we haven't had any trouble with our fingerprint readers.
roirraW edor ehT said:
Personally, since I've had Pixel 6 Pro for almost a year now, and my wife too, we haven't had any trouble with our fingerprint readers.
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have you tried S22 fingerprint ? I got this phone now and fingerprint scanner is perfect , my son has pixel 6pro and fingerprint scanner is a shame , very slow comparede to my S22U , not acurate . I dont know why they didnt change technology to ultrasonic this year ?
nowy57 said:
have you tried S22 fingerprint ? I got this phone now and fingerprint scanner is perfect , my son has pixel 6pro and fingerprint scanner is a shame , very slow comparede to my S22U , not acurate . I dont know why they didnt change technology to ultrasonic this year ?
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No, I gave up on Samsung. Since there wasn't a 512 GB Pixel in 2020 after our Pixel 1s stopped receiving updates,, and I really liked our Samsung Galaxy S3s years back, I got us the Note 10+ 512 GB. I was glad to give them up when the 512 GB Pixel 6 Pro came out. I'm never going back. I understand that some people like them, and that's fine.
I actually have a whole dissertation on what I didn't like about the Note 10+, which I don't have a problem with on our Pixels so far, for the times someone asks me why I don't like Samsung, which have been a few:
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My wife and I had the Note 10+, not the S21 Ultra, so I can't speak to that.
For the Note 10+, complaints were:
Slow ultrasonic in-screen fingerprint reader. Some folks have the same complaint about the P6P's optical in-screen, but it's worked very, very well for me.
Samsung's duplication of multiple services that Google supplies. You have to know what you're looking for and jump through all the proper hoops/settings to set defaults back to Google's solutions since that's what I prefer.
Related to Samsung's duplication of services/apps, their phone app duplicated a bunch of my contacts (and even tripled some) in a way that Google doesn't recognize them as duplicates, so I'd have to go through manually, compare, and delete or consolidate contacts.
How customization of the active Quick Setting tiles was set was really frustrating, up through and including Android 11 on the Note 10+. When it gave a list of the QS Tiles I had to choose from (to add to those that normally show), it presented them in a single horizontal scrolling row across the top of the screen only and in no order that made sense to this human, instead of Google's method of displaying all the tiles available in all of the screen real estate that's available, so even if the order the "inactive" ones doesn't make sense, at least I can see 14 of them all at once and only have a little over two pages of them instead of 8 pages of single-row QS tiles to choose what to activate. This is particularly frustrating when using third-party apps to enable better performing QS tiles for WiFi or Mobile Data toggling or other purposes, so I would have more than one nearly identical-looking toggle that would get confusing to choose from, and from what I remember, the custom third-party app-created QS tiles weren't necessarily together or at the very end of the scrolling list.
Despite disabling all background snoozing for particular apps like GMail, Hangouts/Chat, etc, I couldn't get timely notifications of emails and chat. This was particularly troublesome for work, which also uses Google for everything. I opt not to have a work-supplied phone as it would be iOS. As an aside, my coworkers who do have iPhones from work also have trouble with some chat notifications not being obvious or immediate or some such, so that wouldn't necessarily be a solution anyway.
Before the Note 10+ (on the Pixel 1 I used before it), my emails and chat notifications came through immediately. I sometimes got email notifications for work several hours after. I do enough multi-tasking and when I'm very busy I just don't get a chance to flip back to my Chrome GMail window on the computer so I rely on the phone notifications.
Sometimes I would get a phone notification of an email (both personal and work) in the GMail app hours after I had already seen the email in Chrome on the PC and had deleted it or in some cases at least definitely had read it and didn't do anything further with it.
My brother has a Galaxy S9+. This has been his and his big extended family's first smartphones of any kind. When I complained to him about the late or useless Note 10+ GMail and chat notifications, he told me he experiences the exact same thing and he assumed that was just the way Android is.
Factory resets and all disabling of background snoozing of affected apps didn't help at all.
Samsung gimped Do Not Disturb. When DnD came out with (I think it was 5.0 Lollipop), I hated it and gave up on it quickly. I don't remember at what point I started actually using it on the Pixel 1, but they definitely improved it tons. I don't recall exactly what Samsung's implementation was missing but it was very noticeable having come from the Pixel 1 and no longer being able to do some things. I think what Samsung was missing was the ultra-fine granularity of configuration I could do for each and every scheduled and common/unscheduled DnD profile as to what exceptions were allowed to get past DnD. They had some of it implemented but missing enough that it stuck out at the time.
Now that I have the P6P, I can say that the Note 10+'s night mode camera shots were really bad. I think they were worse than even the Pixel 1s'. The P6P does wonders with what little light is available, by comparison.
There may have been more but I can't recall at this time.
I did like the built-in stylus. My wife used hers tons more than I did, but it would be handy for Google Photos' magic eraser and for other things. Samsung owns patents that would keep anyone else's stylus from being quite as useful or convenient, however. If I remember correctly, between Apple and Samsung's stylus patents, everyone else's stylus just can't compare.
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FWIW coming from a physical sensor (3xl) it works just as well so far. Have to turn on the screen first, so two actions vs the 1, but reliability/speed went from a big concern to a non-issue so far.
FP scanner is good.... I got white device is good .....
What screen is here - AMOLED E4 E5 E6?
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What screen is here - AMOLED E4 E5 E6?
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LPTO AMOLED is all I know.
LeshaRB said:
What screen is here - AMOLED E4 E5 E6?
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It's whatever Samsung's LTPO 1.0 1500nits max brightness panel is.
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According to this source - and a few others - allegedly S6E3HC4.
Google Pixel 7 Pro vs Google Pixel 6 Pro: main differences
We pit the Pixel 7 Pro against its predecessor the Pixel 6 Pro.
www.phonearena.com
Are there two full speakers? Or combined to talk and polyphony
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Are there two full speakers? Or combined to talk and polyphony
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Google Pixel 7 and 7 Pro hands-on review
Both Pixel 7 phones have a revised design for 2022, although it will take you a second to notice the difference. Most of the changes are on the back; gone...
www.gsmarena.com
I order Pixel 7 Pro
Seems it will be Japan version GFE4J
No camera mute
So my question,. How I can enable this functional
1. Change firmware on Global
2. Install Model ID changer
Google Pixel 5 - Прошивки - 4PDA
Google Pixel 5 - Прошивки
4pda.to
LeshaRB said:
I order Pixel 7 Pro
Seems it will be Japan version GFE4J
No camera mute
So my question,. How I can enable this functional
1. Change firmware on Global
2. Install Model ID changer
Google Pixel 5 - Прошивки - 4PDA
Google Pixel 5 - Прошивки
4pda.to
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See here and further in the same thread here.
Also the search results for "Japan" in this section:
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in which you can find my Post #6 giving the same link to the thread with information about this.
Hello, I have a pixel 6a which I like very much, but which for me has a defect. We cannot put all the applications in full screen (prime video...), whereas samsung, xiaomi have this option there. I like to know if with the pixel 7 or 7 pro this is now possible? Thanks in advance
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Hi guys,
I've had the phone for a couple of days. What bothers me are the fact that as a latest fragship, it cheaps out on bluetooth chip(4.2). Other devices like pixel 2 from last year already start using 5.0. Not that I really need the bluetooth 5.0. I just don't like being cheaped out to. Also no gorilla glass? I'd admit these are very minor "issues". Maybe I'm a bit of a brand whore. I just can't seem to enjoy looking at the ugly logo of the brand inside and out. The phone is from a contract with the carrier and therefore my choices are limited to what they have at this time. LG 7, V30, Pixel 2 XL to name a few. I'm not interested in anything with storage space less than 128GB (I don't like using sd cards, sorry but I think they are inferior), which brings me down pretty much to Pixel 2 XL. Now I notice there are people here who are coming from Pixel 2 to P20 Pro. I'd really like to hear their thought on comparing these two phones from all aspects before making the decision. I'm also open to other suggestions. Would really appreciate the input!
Neil
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Hi guys,
I've had the phone for a couple of days. What bothers me are the fact that as a latest fragship, it cheaps out on bluetooth chip(4.2). Other devices like pixel 2 from last year already start using 5.0. Not that I really need the bluetooth 5.0. I just don't like being cheaped out to. Also no gorilla glass? I'd admit these are very minor "issues". Maybe I'm a bit of a brand whore. I just can't seem to enjoy looking at the ugly logo of the brand inside and out. The phone is from a contract with the carrier and therefore my choices are limited to what they have at this time. LG 7, V30, Pixel 2 XL to name a few. I'm not interested in anything with storage space less than 128GB (I don't like using sd cards, sorry but I think they are inferior), which brings me down pretty much to Pixel 2 XL. Now I notice there are people here who are coming from Pixel 2 to P20 Pro. I'd really like to hear their thought on comparing these two phones from all aspects before making the decision. I'm also open to other suggestions. Would really appreciate the input!
Neil
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I would suggest waiting for Pixel 3 which is due out in October/November as it would be pointless buying it now.
You have described that you require Bluetooth 5.0 (do you have any devices that specifically require it). Bluetooth 4.2 can still be pretty decent as it has low power consumption
P20 Pro does come with gorilla glass
mulkman said:
I would suggest waiting for Pixel 3 which is due out in October/November as it would be pointless buying it now.
You have described that you require Bluetooth 5.0 (do you have any devices that specifically require it). Bluetooth 4.2 can still be pretty decent as it has low power consumption
P20 Pro does come with gorilla glass
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I don't really need the added benefit of the Bluetooth 5.0. I just don't like the fact that they have cheaped out on this comparing samsung has started using 5.0 since s8 and lots of others. It doesn't offer any confidence in this phone when knowing this. Waiting for Pixel 3 is probably is a good idea. Thanks for the suggestion anyway.
The phone costs less though so you gotta expect some compromises.
Hell no, from my experience the XL2 runs fast BUT very unstable. Apps especially Google Map can quit while you're driving, or whole system can reboot anytime.
My answer is no, if you want to go down pixel line wait until 3 comes out.
I've owned the nexus range and the pixel xl and was going to get a pixel 2 xl, but they are overpriced for what they are (just like apple) and they are full of bugs just like the XL
Pixel line of phones have long lost there edge compared to the Nexus line.
One plus in my opinion make the best "stock" android phones. Anyway back onto topic.
Gorilla glass Vs the tempered glass on the p20 Pro. Both scartch at a level 6 on the Moe's scale of hardness. So I wouldn't be to concerned
Bluetooth 4.2 Vs 5 can't really see much of a argument in a real life setting to why anyone would need 5 compared to 4.2.
If you can't get a one plus 6 and you have to make the choice like now then it feels your online option is the pixel.
There is no way I'd swap my phone for the px2
Or the XL.
The 3 ? Maybe but I'd have to see it
w2830 said:
Hi guys,
I've had the phone for a couple of days. What bothers me are the fact that as a latest fragship, it cheaps out on bluetooth chip(4.2). Other devices like pixel 2 from last year already start using 5.0. Not that I really need the bluetooth 5.0. I just don't like being cheaped out to. Also no gorilla glass? I'd admit these are very minor "issues". Maybe I'm a bit of a brand whore. I just can't seem to enjoy looking at the ugly logo of the brand inside and out. The phone is from a contract with the carrier and therefore my choices are limited to what they have at this time. LG 7, V30, Pixel 2 XL to name a few. I'm not interested in anything with storage space less than 128GB (I don't like using sd cards, sorry but I think they are inferior), which brings me down pretty much to Pixel 2 XL. Now I notice there are people here who are coming from Pixel 2 to P20 Pro. I'd really like to hear their thought on comparing these two phones from all aspects before making the decision. I'm also open to other suggestions. Would really appreciate the input!
Neil
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am personally let go my pixel 2 xl after having p20 pro.
camera is more versatile. smoothness is comparable. screen color is better for doing graphic works (at least IMO), and this one might surprise you, my apps crash less on this phone than on my pixel 2 xl, and 6GB of ram wont hurt either (disable zRAM to feel the true smoothness of this phone)
now am using p20 pro as main driver and redmi note 5 Ai as secondary phone. saving 400++ bucks by doing so. cant be happier
If I could go back in time, I would keep my Pixel 2 XL. That is not without issues though.
On the Pixel 2 XL, Touchscreen is a bit iffy. Battery life is worse (7 hours SOT over a day as opposed to 9 on the Huawei). Display is a little dark, not enough brightness in sunshine. But, if I could go back, I would keep it.
The Pixel is smoother and faster in apps, scrolling is much quicker, graphics power on the Pixel 2 XL is better, the P20 is quite stuttery and laggy.
But I would stick with the P20 for now.
Pros of switching to Pixel 2 XL:
1. Faster, fluid and cleaner software stock android experience. I used Pixel 2 as a work phone and love the Google experience. People buy Pixel for software and camera
2. Faster update to Android P
3. Snapdragon 835 is faster than Kirin 970, especially GPU
4. Google's camera is much simpler than P20 Pro's
5. Pixel 2 has better Stereo speakers
6. Pixel 2 has Bluetooth 5
Reasons for sticking with P20 Pro:
1. P20 Pro has a much better screen to body ratio, more content on a smaller screen
2. P20 Pro's camera hardware is future proof; amazing night mode, the best in market; P20 Pro is basically a camera phone
3. P20 Pro has a bigger battery and well optimized, resulting in much better battery life
4. P20 Pro's face unlock is more convenient than Pixel 2's rear mounted fingerprint reader
5. Pixel 2 XL's screen quality is inferior to P20 Pro's, which has fantastic AMOLED display
6. P20 Pro is future proof because of 6 GB ram, although Pixel 2 XL works equally well with 4GB ram.
Long story short, P20 Pro has a better hardware, but poor software experience in my opinion. Pixel 2 XL's Google experience is a class of its own. Never got such a fluid experience on any phone ever (Not even on One plus series).
I hope it helps
gautam.malik said:
Pros of switching to Pixel 2 XL:
1. Faster, fluid and cleaner software stock android experience. I used Pixel 2 as a work phone and love the Google experience. People buy Pixel for software and camera
2. Faster update to Android P
3. Snapdragon 835 is faster than Kirin 970, especially GPU
4. Google's camera is much simpler than P20 Pro's
5. Pixel 2 has better Stereo speakers
6. Pixel 2 has Bluetooth 5
Reasons for sticking with P20 Pro:
1. P20 Pro has a much better screen to body ratio, more content on a smaller screen
2. P20 Pro's camera hardware is future proof; amazing night mode, the best in market; P20 Pro is basically a camera phone
3. P20 Pro has a bigger battery and well optimized, resulting in much better battery life
4. P20 Pro's face unlock is more convenient than Pixel 2's rear mounted fingerprint reader
5. Pixel 2 XL's screen quality is inferior to P20 Pro's, which has fantastic AMOLED display
6. P20 Pro is future proof because of 6 GB ram, although Pixel 2 XL works equally well with 4GB ram.
Long story short, P20 Pro has a better hardware, but poor software experience in my opinion. Pixel 2 XL's Google experience is a class of its own. Never got such a fluid experience on any phone ever (Not even on One plus series).
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But software can always be improved, and / or we have Roms.
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But software can always be improved, and / or we have Roms.
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Development hasn't been looking good so far, but i do hope we get some more going eventually. Also, yeah i hope stop EMUI gets improved as well.
If P2XL didn't have the issues with screen I would have probably got it as liked the Pixel XL, but I had the initial issues with the halo when taking photos, I couldn't automatically connect to Bluetooth devices and had to manually switch over. It never 6with wifi calling when switched network as that feature was locked to EE and it same on the Pixel 2.
I have a Huawei Watch and switching over phones lost my data as couldn't be backed up on Pixel phones and Google Fit is more than useless with not keeping GPS data and not showing correctly across devices. Apple, Fitbit, Sony and even Garmin apps better.
Even Huawei Health provides better data than Google Fit just shame it can only be backed up and restored on Huawei devices otherwise u lose all data.
I'm still debating which device to get next and may depend on Watch compatibility.
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Thread from the dead: which phone should I keep?
So I found myself having my P2XL 128gb replaced by Google due to screen burn and a new (refurb) one arrives tomorrow.
In the meantime I had been rolling with a Huawei P20 Pro and it's not bad... Camera IS LOVELY and battery life amazing but I run Rootless Pixel Launcher as I can't stand whatever Huawei call their interface.
So, I can get £300 for my pixel 2 on popular recycling sites or £353 for the Huawei. My buy out on contract is £267.50 so either way I'm quids in.
Now, which one do I keep? It's worth noting my work phone is rolling a P3XL and, to some degree, I need to be in Android Beta Programmes (Q next?) as I'm a dev PM. The P3XL answers this need.
Heart says keep the pixel and flog the Huawei. Head says Huawei mobile the newer model (though not newer handset as, if you remember, just getting a replacement from The Big G).
The pixel FEELS better to me but, as this is my social phone, I'm more concerned with the camera than anything else. Does the P20 Pro triple camera make it worth getting rid of the P2XL? The snail pace of updates to the P20 annoys but thata just me wanting latest and greatest all the time.
Oh, decisions decisions. Either way ONE phone must go tomorrow in the post as I've locked in the prices for both with recyclers.
What would *you* do? Snapper or Pixel?
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So I found myself having my P2XL 128gb replaced by Google due to screen burn and a new (refurb) one arrives tomorrow.
In the meantime I had been rolling with a Huawei P20 Pro and it's not bad... Camera IS LOVELY and battery life amazing but I run Rootless Pixel Launcher as I can't stand whatever Huawei call their interface.
So, I can get £300 for my pixel 2 on popular recycling sites or £353 for the Huawei. My buy out on contract is £267.50 so either way I'm quids in.
Now, which one do I keep? It's worth noting my work phone is rolling a P3XL and, to some degree, I need to be in Android Beta Programmes (Q next?) as I'm a dev PM. The P3XL answers this need.
Heart says keep the pixel and flog the Huawei. Head says Huawei mobile the newer model (though not newer handset as, if you remember, just getting a replacement from The Big G).
The pixel FEELS better to me but, as this is my social phone, I'm more concerned with the camera than anything else. Does the P20 Pro triple camera make it worth getting rid of the P2XL? The snail pace of updates to the P20 annoys but thata just me wanting latest and greatest all the time.
Oh, decisions decisions. Either way ONE phone must go tomorrow in the post as I've locked in the prices for both with recyclers.
What would *you* do? Snapper or Pixel?
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Do not get rid of the P2xl because of the triple camera on the P20 Pro. The pixel is still the better all round camera regardless, and with its own new night sight mode, it just got even better.
Keep the pixel
Is it though, Patchy? I took an awesome shot on holiday where you could see Saturn and the P20 picked it out.
Ugh. I'm so conflicted!
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Is it though, Patchy? I took an awesome shot on holiday where you could see Saturn and the P20 picked it out.
Ugh. I'm so conflicted!
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I have both phones. It comes to preference, but yeah I find the Pixel always takes nicer photos. Way more consistent. Your call man.
i traded my pixel 2 xl because i was bored with stock android and the ram management was crap . portrait mode was better on pixel 2 xl. But i love the p20 pro for when zooming in pics the pics are still amazingly sharp
Hello
I have a 2.5 year old Nexus 5x and am seriously thinking about getting a new phone. I've narrowed it down to two choices.
The Oneplus 6 (8gb/128gb) that I could get for around 550€ with the student discount. The phone is everything I ever wished for, except for the camera, which I fear might be a downgrade from Nexus 5x and the not so good customer service.
The other one is Huawei p20 pro, which I could get for 570€ from my carrier. It is a great phone, but I really dislike the EMUI. I was not very impressed with the camera (I've seen some mixed reviews from people). Hardware is amazing, but I really dislike their postprocessing (the oversharpening and oversaturated colours) and I've read that gcam port is probably unlikely because of the Kirin processor. I also don't know how Huawei phones hold out long term (speed, lagging, software updates...).
I plan to keep the phone for 2-3 years. Things that are important to me are stock software and I also want a good camera (at least on par with my nexus 5x). I don't game and I mostly use the phone for calling, texting, listening to music, taking pictures and browsing the internet. It is important to me that the phone stays fast and doesn't lag throught it's lifetime and that it gets enough software updates.
Any insight would be appreciated.
Edit: Decided to go with the Oneplus 6. Thank you all for your answers!
I'm having both of them, and boy.. You can't imagine how much I hate EMUI. It's a nice phone, I rly like the Twilight color with the Black frame (switched the Backcover) but it's a pain to flash, stock EMUI looks like **** and overall I'm just enjoying my OP6 way more then I do the P20 Pro. The Camera ain't that bad, but compared to the P20 Pro it's quality is just poor. But that's a thing I can safely survive with.
Had a P10 Pro and EMUI is simply horrible. I put it up against my 5t and the 5t won. I also recall reading that they no longer allow you to get an unlock code for the bootloader.
I have both devices as well. The camera on the p20 pro is definitely knock out, but if you value software experience at all, you'll hate it. EMUI is a clunky mess. Updating the device is a pain, it's really heavy handed with closing background apps (Android messages for web won't run consistently, for example) and in general, it's ugly imo.
I carry the oneplus 6 each day because I enjoy using it. I have been switching sims each weekend when I value pictures of my kids, etc. Ultimately, it'll find it's way to eBay.
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Ultimately, it'll find it's way to eBay.
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Try selling on Swappa. I've sold 6 phones though them in the last year and much better than eBay. I think I sold every one of my phones in less than a week.
Emui is not the end of the world. If you dislike it I would pick the OnePlus device. Btoh have pros and cons though. Huawei latest flagships don't have the slowdown like samsungs. So you can get the bells and whistles plus a consistent experience. Most importantly comparable battery with all the extras.
Like most Chinese oem's they all want to be apple/Samsung.
OnePlus is stockksh on a 1080p panel with the best hardware a available. So of course it's fast. Average device across the board. Biggest pro is extra hour of sot vs most phones(heavy user). Root and dev community.
Huawei will not be giving out bootloader codes after July(google actual date) but stock Android is available for a good majority of devices if interested.
op6 > p20 pro
my p20 pro got sluggish AF a month after usage.
op6 remains fast as day 1
I've seen videos of severe scrolling lag in basic apps like contacts on p20. It seems like EMUI has some issues it needs to work out first.
I just sold my p20 after using it for just a few hours LTE speeds were slower (55mpbs vs OP6 pulling 78mbps). As well as a bug utilizing the navbar on the device was buggy. When you enable navbar, it doesn't disable the fingerprint sensor from acting like a home button....so you have two home buttons side by side.
I would like to add that the costumer service is incredible (at least if you are a European citizen). I was never a fan of Samsung's/Huaweis aftersale support since it took me once 3 weeks to change the display of an SG S6.
Changing the display and the back cover of the OP3 costed me approximately 130€ with free DHL Express shipping. It took 3 working days until it was in GER again. I shipped it on Monday(early) and received the repaired smartphone on Wednesday evening (express courier).
For the software part: You will have 2 major updates and 36 months security updates (check your for reference: https://www.google.de/amp/s/www.xda-developers.com/oneplus-software-maintenance-schedule/amp/ )
Google port and custom roms is a big plus for the OP6. Camera is more then decent, it won't produce pictures like the Pixel 2, but the white balance / colour profile is pretty good ( maybe a bit to satured reds/orange - if you want to be very picky).
Overall i would go for the OP6 anytime.
I've owned a Huawei Mate 9 Pro, an Huawei Mate 10 and an Honor View 10. This must tell you that EMUI isn't as bad as all that. It isn't really.
The cameras and the camera software are outstanding. They even put my current Samsung S9+ to shame.
My concerns were :
Software updates - not too frequent, plus they like to 'authorise' a device for an update. Unlike OP where you can just use a VPN and get the update regardless of where you are, here you have to wait for authorisation or 'pay' and get the update from Funky Huawei.
I found on occasion, that despite some settings, things like some background apps were being killed or frozen. Stuff like Android Wear or the ThreeInTouch Wifi app. Some widgets wouldn't update. I don't think, going forward that Huawei are going to let you unlock bootloaders.
If you value a simpler OS that is updated and easy to root, unlock the bootloader and camera is secondary - get the OP.
If you adore having excellent photos, then get the P20 Pro - you won't regret it.
If the only thing concerning you about the OP6 is the camera (in comparison to 5X) - having both devices I can reassure you OP6 camera is miles better than Nexus 5X. And I wouldn't suggest buying Huawei to anyone. I think the oneplus offers the most nexus like software experience between all the OEM's right now
I can't speak about the P20 but I had a Mate 10 Pro and I sold it as I just didn't like EMUI at all. Compared to OOS it's just bad.
You'll better software support on the OnePlus 6. Huawei's software support track record isn't great. P20 Pro probably won't see Android P till Early 2019. OnePlus are offering Android P Betas right now.
From the comparisons I've seen online. The OnePlus 6 is faster, more RAM, camera is pretty even with both winning over the other in different situations.
The OS is great superior over EMUI and you will get update after update with OnePlus. The development community is far superior and of course insane battery with the fastest charging available with OnePlus dash charging.
I have the OnePlus 6 obviously, but faster phone, faster charging, stock like OS great camera and better support with updates and now OnePlus has come out and confirmed... 2 years OS updates and 3 YEARS security updates. It's a no brainier in my opinion.
Thank you all for your answers! I ordered the 1+6 today together with the nylon case. Really excited for it to come.
Hi guys,
I'm currently using OnePlus 3T and after almost 3 years it's about time to buy new phone.
I'm not a gamer and I mainly use the phone for taking pictures, web and navigation.
Picture quality is the first thing I look for - it must be superb
I know that this is OP thread but I believe many of the users here switched from pixel to op.
what phone would you recommend? pixel 3a spec are outdated but maybe its still good enough for my usage for the next 2-3 years.
Do you think that OP can improve the software to match the quality of the pixel?
I've heard about the gcam porting but still the picture quality is not as good as taking photos with the pixel.
Or maybe should I wait to October where Google announces the pixel 4 and maybe the pixel 4a
Your help will be highly appreciated
Thanks
Go for OnePlus
OnePlus 7 is good, or 7 Pro if you don't mind curved edge. (I hate it)
Wait for the Pixel 4 XL since it is so close to being released. Tho i do love my OnePlus 7 pro. Pixels have the best camera.
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OnePlus 7 is good, or 7 Pro if you don't mind curved edge. (I hate it)
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I got use to the curved glass thanks to the Galaxy S8/9/10, just use a case and usually solves the accidental touches
pixel 4 would cost x1.5 for sure, don't want to spend too much
I really like the OP 3T so upgrading to 7 plus seems like the right choice.
What do you think about 7 vs 7 plus? the plus worth the extra penny?
Similar boat here, especially as a 3a XL can be had for £270 on EE from CeX at grade A (as new) whilst an OP7 is £500 upwards... and I do care about photo quality...
Thing is you do get much more with the OnePlus. You get IMO the better ROM - Pixel stock is nice, I've tried Pixel Experience on my old Moto G5 and it's great, but it's also quite basic. If you want things like screen recording, scrolling screenshots etc then you need third party software and have to battle with the battery saving features to stop them getting closed etc. They have a really nice balance where they add just enough genuinely useful features without turning it into bloatware. Only thing you miss out on is "Now Playing" which I must admit would be nice.
You get the in-display fingerprint reader making it way more convenient for "phone on desk" scenarios.
You get the mute slider which I've missed during my time on other phones.
You get, obviously, better and faster everything else except possibly shorter battery life (not sure, but the 3aXL is well regarded that way).
But true, there's no solid guarantee on camera quality. I know OP have a team dedicated to improving it so am having a bit of faith in it (and don't really mind installing Gcam for now if I can find a good universal install-and-forget version) but if guaranteed photo quality is of paramount importance even above all else mentioned then Pixel is the way to go. I know the dilemma very well as I've been agonising over the same thing (oh our first world problems!) but I had a 3T a couple of years ago and regret ever switching from it. It was hands down the best smartphone I've ever owned, and that past experience (plus wanting more RAM so I can e.g. keep Pokemon Go from being closed so much) is also pushing me towards the OP7, come what may. I'm not sure the camera is as 'bad' as some people make out - nerds are champions when it comes to complaining
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Wait for the Pixel 4 XL since it is so close to being released. Tho i do love my OnePlus 7 pro. Pixels have the best camera.
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I got use to the curved glass thanks to the Galaxy S8/9/10, just use a case and usually solves the accidental touches
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Similar boat here, especially as a 3a XL can be had for £270 on EE from CeX at grade A (as new) whilst an OP7 is £500 upwards... and I do care about photo quality...
Thing is you do get much more with the OnePlus. You get IMO the better ROM - Pixel stock is nice, I've tried Pixel Experience on my old Moto G5 and it's great, but it's also quite basic. If you want things like screen recording, scrolling screenshots etc then you need third party software and have to battle with the battery saving features to stop them getting closed etc. They have a really nice balance where they add just enough genuinely useful features without turning it into bloatware. Only thing you miss out on is "Now Playing" which I must admit would be nice.
You get the in-display fingerprint reader making it way more convenient for "phone on desk" scenarios.
You get the mute slider which I've missed during my time on other phones.
You get, obviously, better and faster everything else except possibly shorter battery life (not sure, but the 3aXL is well regarded that way).
But true, there's no solid guarantee on camera quality. I know OP have a team dedicated to improving it so am having a bit of faith in it (and don't really mind installing Gcam for now if I can find a good universal install-and-forget version) but if guaranteed photo quality is of paramount importance even above all else mentioned then Pixel is the way to go. I know the dilemma very well as I've been agonising over the same thing (oh our first world problems!) but I had a 3T a couple of years ago and regret ever switching from it. It was hands down the best smartphone I've ever owned, and that past experience is also pushing me towards the OP7, come what may. I'm not sure the camera is as 'bad' as some people make out - nerds are champions when it comes to complaining
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I totally agree, you're up for OP7 not OP7 plus? would like to hear your thoughts here as well
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I totally agree, you're up for OP7 not OP7 plus? would like to hear your thoughts here as well
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Yeah I can't justify paying an extra £150 for 90Hz (which I don't want to get addicted to as then other screens will look bad to me and it'll end up restricting my tech purchases), telephoto lens (with so many megapixels these days, cropping or variations of AI digital zoom should be good enough for me) or wide angle lens (this I want the most and was agonising about last night, but... 150 quid.... and I can get a clip on). Other than that it's about the same device? Slightly faster charging which I'm not bothered about as Dash Charge is super fast already.
I can actually think of a couple of advantages to the non-Pro IMO. One being that the Pro apparently has quite 'aggressive' curves to the display. Now, I have an S9 currently and to be fair I think the curving on that looks quite nice and rarely notice any distortion, but from what I've seen of the 7Pro you get a more noticeable version of the greenish tint that appears from indirect viewing angles, I think it'd possibly bug me, not sure without seeing one in person.
Another being no moving parts. I'm sure the selfie camera is very well tested, but I'd rather not.
Plus... well no smartphone these days is good for one handed use, but let's say it's slightly less bad
And despite absolutely loathing notches initially, they've had this weird effect of growing on me (just as the industry is finding ways to get rid of them, lol). The teardrop actually looks quite 'cute' in my eyes.
Plus one sort of 'political' reason: I don't want to encourage OP to keep hiking prices up, or come next year they'll just be yet another manufacturer of smartphones that cost over a grand. I want to support their mid range flagship killer business.
OnePlus 7 Pro or Pixel 4. The Pixel 3a can't even compete. It also depends on how much you'd like to spend.
Google's stock OS is lacking behind OOS. It lacks any real innovations as Google is afraid of change, evidence by the lack of dark mode in apps and OS until now (5 or 6 years after it's been available in custom ROMs).
The 3xl just can't compete with the OP 7 pro. The 7 pro is faster, another, 90hz screen faster charging, larger screen and the specs are outdated in comparison (SD855, 6/8/12 gb ram and minimum of 128gb storage). The battery in mine lasts all day with heavy use and I'm averaging 9+ hours of sot.
The pixel has a slightly better camera in low light but day time shots there is no discernable difference between the 2. It also gets updates faster but 4-6 weeks difference is nothing compared to phones like Samsung which can take 6 months or longer.
So the only reasons you should buy a 3xl is the low light camera is the most important feature you can settle for or for some reason you feel that security you're are a must the instant they are out. Or you're penny pinching and can get the 3xl cheaper.
Anyone here coming from the OP 9 Pro?
I'd like to know which screen is easier to read under direct extra-bright sunlight.
And which has louder, fuller sounding speakers?
Anything else you think is interesting to note as a difference.
The screen on the Pixel is comparable to the 9 Pro. It's got a peak of 1500 nits when on auto. I have zero issues seeing it in the sun.
I didn't have a 9 Pro, I had a 9, but the speakers on the 7 Pro are way better. The 9 had basically no bass to speak of and the 7 Pro has a moderate bass response. It travels through the back of the phone and makes it vibrate in your hands a bit which was unnerving for me at first but the quality is definitely excellent as that was a chief complaint I had about my 9.
I'm loving the fact that apps don't just randomly refresh for no reason. I can swipe away from Chrome and do something without worrying about the page refreshing when I come back. RAM management was always really annoying on OOS12 and would often result in me being unable to log into my accounts because I would swipe away to get my 2FA code and the page would reload. Happy to say that I can actually play games on this thing and come back to what I was doing hours later and it's still there.
The camera is way better on the Pixel side if you like the point and shoot idea. The OnePlus is better if you like to tweak things although I think eventually we will get a nice GCam port that adds all that functionality back to the Pixel as well. I have not been disappointed with a single picture I have just randomly snapped with the Pixel whereas the OnePlus I never trusted it to get it right on the first so I took 3 or 4 and checked them out later.
Battery life for me has been better than my 9 but this seems to really vary for people and comes down to how you use the phone. I thought I would miss the rapid charging of the 9 but in reality I only have to charge once every 19-26 hours so it's a moot point and I can get 50% in 30 minutes which will get me through whatever I need to do where I won't have access to a charger easily.
EDIT: Actually, from looking up display tests, the Pixel should be much better than the 9 Pro. Without auto brightness the 9 Pro maxed at 500 nits. The Pixel achieves 1000 nits full scene brightness without auto.
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The screen on the Pixel is comparable to the 9 Pro. It's got a peak of 1500 nits when on auto. I have zero issues seeing it in the sun.
I didn't have a 9 Pro, I had a 9, but the speakers on the 7 Pro are way better. The 9 had basically no bass to speak of and the 7 Pro has a moderate bass response. It travels through the back of the phone and makes it vibrate in your hands a bit which was unnerving for me at first but the quality is definitely excellent as that was a chief complaint I had about my 9.
I'm loving the fact that apps don't just randomly refresh for no reason. I can swipe away from Chrome and do something without worrying about the page refreshing when I come back. RAM management was always really annoying on OOS12 and would often result in me being unable to log into my accounts because I would swipe away to get my 2FA code and the page would reload. Happy to say that I can actually play games on this thing and come back to what I was doing hours later and it's still there.
The camera is way better on the Pixel side if you like the point and shoot idea. The OnePlus is better if you like to tweak things although I think eventually we will get a nice GCam port that adds all that functionality back to the Pixel as well. I have not been disappointed with a single picture I have just randomly snapped with the Pixel whereas the OnePlus I never trusted it to get it right on the first so I took 3 or 4 and checked them out later.
Battery life for me has been better than my 9 but this seems to really vary for people and comes down to how you use the phone. I thought I would miss the rapid charging of the 9 but in reality I only have to charge once every 19-26 hours so it's a moot point and I can get 50% in 30 minutes which will get me through whatever I need to do where I won't have access to a charger easily.
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FYI, fully functional GCAM is already there since the phone came out. Check the Gcam from BSG, there is even a "dedicated" group for the Pixel 7 series and Gcam including a few people who made config and lib. Of course, Gcam already performs FAR better than the stock Google camera.
Also, I got the 9 Pro too, and the camera doesn't even come close to Pixel 7 Pro's.
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FYI, fully functional GCAM is already there since the phone came out. Check the Gcam from BSG, there is even a "dedicated" group for the Pixel 7 series and Gcam including a few people who made config and lib. Of course, Gcam already performs FAR better than the stock Google camera.
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I may have to look into this. It seems like Google made the camera even less functional than it was on the 3 XL from the settings department. I've been happy with the output but sometimes I would like more control.
I have both coming from 9 pro. You can definitely see the pixel 7 pro screen in sunlight. The nine pro also is pretty good. Couple thing to note that stands out to me, the pixel screen feels/appears a little bigger to me, I believe mainly due to screen curve with the 9 pro having much more curve. The one thing that surprised me was the pixel screen being rated #1 Android screen on DXO_Mark, since the screen does look nice, but I think as far as colors, etc, the nine pro has pixel beat with ability to produce, I believe, 1 billion colors, and the pixel like 17 million. I still prefer the pixel though for the record, since the 9 pro and Color Os saga when Android 12 came out. Also the pixel camera obviously is pretty hard to beat for double click power button, point and shoot. The pixel has been pretty nice except for the charging speed.
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The one thing that surprised me was the pixel screen being rated #1 Android screen on DXO_Mark, since the screen does look nice, but I think as far as colors, etc, the nine pro has pixel beat with ability to produce, I believe, 1 billion colors, and the pixel like 17 million
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The Pixel supports HDR10 which means it supports 1.07 billion colors as well. SDR is limited to 16.7 million but HDR is not.
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I have both coming from 9 pro. You can definitely see the pixel 7 pro screen in sunlight. The nine pro also is pretty good. Couple thing to note that stands out to me, the pixel screen feels/appears a little bigger to me, I believe mainly due to screen curve with the 9 pro having much more curve. The one thing that surprised me was the pixel screen being rated #1 Android screen on DXO_Mark, since the screen does look nice, but I think as far as colors, etc, the nine pro has pixel beat with ability to produce, I believe, 1 billion colors, and the pixel like 17 million. I still prefer the pixel though for the record, since the 9 pro and Color Os saga when Android 12 came out. Also the pixel camera obviously is pretty hard to beat for double click power button, point and shoot. The pixel has been pretty nice except for the charging speed.
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To point out the statement regarding "saturation" on OP9 Pro compared to Pixel 7 Pro. Keep in mind that "higher" saturation doesn't equal "better". Pixel 7 Pro is above OP9 Pro in terms of display for various reasons, one of them and one of the most important one is the color accuracy. If you need saturation, you can always use a third-party app to boost it. Same as it was done on OP9 Pro through the "Wide-Gamut" display setting.
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The Pixel supports HDR10 which means it supports 1.07 billion colors as well. SDR is limited to 16.7 million but HDR is not.
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To point out the statement regarding "saturation" on OP9 Pro compared to Pixel 7 Pro. Keep in mind that "higher" saturation doesn't equal "better". Pixel 7 Pro is above OP9 Pro in terms of display for various reasons, one of them and one of the most important one is the color accuracy. If you need saturation, you can always use a third-party app to boost it. Same as it was done on OP9 Pro through the "Wide-Gamut" display setting.
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Thanks for pointing this out, that makes sense now, and I was wondering about this. Overall I've been pretty happy w/ the pixel and I have increased the saturation.
I would say the Pixel 7 Pro is a far better phone in every way. The only thing I am missing is the silent, vibrate physical button. I get 5G pretty much everywhere. Pixlel 7 Pro gets 5G in places my OnePlus 9 pro couldn't. Im back on Nova Launcher after 3 Oneplus phones I didn't really need. Pixel needs it to remove Google search bar.
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Anyone here coming from the OP 9 Pro?
I'd like to know which screen is easier to read under direct extra-bright sunlight.
And which has louder, fuller sounding speakers?
Anything else you think is interesting to note as a difference.
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Easily the Pixel 7 Pro is easier to read
I have both and frequently switch between the two.... Gaming is better on the 9pro obviously... The fit in hand is better on the 9pro and this is a big deal to me... I also like the build better as the screen doesn't feel so hollow... Speakers edge out to the 9pro... Standby drain edge out to the 9pro as well... I shoot RAW when I can, so the camera isnt that big of a factor for me but the 7pro is great for dim, quick shots...
There are some differences with smoothness including this website on Firefox... The 9pro is consistently smoother... It gets choppy more often with the 7pro...
The 9pro also stays cooler ... Dunno what this really means though, maybe it's just better at "hiding" the heat whereas the 7pro let's the heat expand out...
These differences are very close... The 9pro just got OS13 and seems much better than 12...
If I were to pick between the 2, I'd stick with my 9pro because of fit in hand AND the super fast charging... Too convenient...
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Anyone here coming from the OP 9 Pro?
I'd like to know which screen is easier to read under direct extra-bright sunlight.
And which has louder, fuller sounding speakers?
Anything else you think is interesting to note as a difference.
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I went from OP 8T + and decided against the 10 Pro in favor of the Pixel 7 Pro. It's a great phone designed around real world performance ignoring benchmark performance. It's like the only phone that runs 2 main cores with a 2+2+4 setup when all other phones run 1 big core. Screen is excellent, especially brightness
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I went from OP 8T + and decided against the 10 Pro in favor of the Pixel 7 Pro. It's a great phone designed around real world performance ignoring benchmark performance. It's like the only phone that runs 2 main cores with a 2+2+4 setup when all other phones run 1 big core. Screen is excellent, especially brightness
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I made the mistake of getting a 10 pro before my 6a. Worst experience ever. I wasexcited to see it finally being sold in the us, but of course the moment it was oneplus murders their os
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FYI, fully functional GCAM is already there since the phone came out. Check the Gcam from BSG, there is even a "dedicated" group for the Pixel 7 series and Gcam including a few people who made config and lib. Of course, Gcam already performs FAR better than the stock Google camera.
Also, I got the 9 Pro too, and the camera doesn't even come close to Pixel 7 Pro's.
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I've found 8.6V10 Gcam, but havent found any great configs for it. What is the link to the dedicated group?
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I made the mistake of getting a 10 pro before my 6a. Worst experience ever. I wasexcited to see it finally being sold in the us, but of course the moment it was oneplus murders their os
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I understand, I've been a OnePlus fan since their creation. The concept behind the company was a true flagship killer concept. Sadly by the time the 9's hit they went down the drain. I'm really happy with my Google Pixel 7 Pro, but the slow charging is a bummer
OnePlus software was ahead of its time.
But the hardware was behind the times (IMO) until the 9 Pro.
But that was the same time they went out of date with software.
I used to have the 9 pro, but I sold it. Its battery was horrifyingly bad (maybe the device was faulty). The vibration was weak and the speakers were OKish (no bass and depth just loudness).
As someone mentioned above, I can confirm that the camera was hit or miss with heavy colour saturation.
Furthermore, I liked more the curved screen of the Oneplus, the front camera placement and the extremely fast battery charging. Also, I was getting better cellular reception on the Oneplus 9 pro, maybe due to its modem and support of 5g in my country.
So far I'm enjoying almost every aspect of the Pixel 7 Pro. For the initial price bundled with the pixel watch, I think it was the best deal currently available for new premium android.
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I understand, I've been a OnePlus fan since their creation. The concept behind the company was a true flagship killer concept. Sadly by the time the 9's hit they went down the drain. I'm really happy with my Google Pixel 7 Pro, but the slow charging is a bummer
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A 9 might've been a better choice from the start then a 10 since it was before their whole "pay to unbrick" nonsense. But i guess oneplus helped me find a good phone in a way by being the first ever one i returned. I feel a llittle dumb getting something soo expensive when i could get comparible preformance for 300 dollars instead of oneplus's laughable 700 or 800 dollars
I bought Pixel 7 pro today. Im reverting back to my OP9. I couldn´t find a way to pass safetynet on
GP7. I have full root and passing on my OP9 A13.
i will return the Pixel tomorrow, sadly.
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I bought Pixel 7 pro today. Im reverting back to my OP9. I couldn´t find a way to pass safetynet on
GP7. I have full root and passing on my OP9 A13.
i will return the Pixel tomorrow, sadly.
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I never knew you could even pass it without usnf. Aren't all 0hones nowadays hardware verified or whatever? I don't even care if i pass personally since i use websites for banking and avoid gpay because it failed me. One too many times (unrooted)
I just received my Xiaomi 13 (12/256) and immediately proceed to unboxing, first impression and specs review.
One caveat, if you want to get hold of UFS4.0 it seems you need to order the 256GB version (at least), as the 128 GB version only has UFS 3.1... how much difference will this play in the real world we still need to check & see.
Here also some random tests that I did.
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And here is the 3dMark Wildlife Extreme stress test ... the Xiaomi 12 with 8gen1 was not able to complete the test... due to overheating.
This here is a whole other story.
Here you can see how the Xiaomi 13 takes 10 AnTuTu tests one after another... and to not be boring I trowed in the Galaxy S22 Ultra.
And this is the Xiaomi 13 Speaker & Sound Quality test (again compared with the S22U)
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Guys,
I have been using the Xiaomi 13 now for almost 2 weeks quality time as my mainly driver. Here my feedback in case any questions just hit me and I will try to reply. It`s a rather expensive device so... no questions should be left unanswered if you decide to go with it
Where did I buy it
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I bought it off trading shenzhen and it was delivered out of China for ~ 12 days. The price was 823 EUR for the 12/256 version
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I do believe that the 12//256 is a must if not... then strongly recommend. Why? The 8/128 version seems to have UFS 3.1 and UFS 4.0 is just better. How? UFS 4.0 can achieve read speeds of up to 4200MB/s and sequential write speeds of up to 2800MB/s. In contrast, UFS 3.1 has read and write speeds of up to 2100MB/s and 1200MB/s, respectively. And also 12/256 is a bit more future proof for the next 1-3 years at least
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With the size 6.36" it`s rather one of the few small Android phones and I love it. It fits in most of my pockets and I am using usually the S22 Ultra, so coming to a smaller screen didn’t felt too bad but it felt way more convenient.
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I am a fan of curved screens and this is completely flat which is a bit problematic with gesture use and the included case. But the Samsung E6 AMOLED is really good, very bright (up to 1900 nit peak) and totally usable under direct sunlight. I have compared this to my S22 Ultra and it was not falling behind (S22U has lower peak nit as per specs) but it doesn’t feel like this when comparing.
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4500 mAh isnt too much sometimes with Android phones but here the results are outstanding I believe due to the Snapdragon 8 GEN 2 performance and efficiency. I get constantly over 6 hrs of SOT with mixed (mobile/wifi) use.
Snapdragon 8 gen 2
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That`s a beast, able to run at 45 C for a longer period of time w/o sacrificing performance. I was able to run 10 times AnTuTu with only losing 4% from the original score in one of the rounds. I was able to play Genshin Impact for 3 hours and 10 minutes running from 80% to 0%.
It’s a powerhouse and maybe the best chip to upgrade to if you are looking to stay with the phone for a longer period.
Speakers
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This year the Harman Kardon tuning is gone, but the speakers are loud, EQ works well, sound is balanced and compared to my S22Ultra I like the Xiaomi sound better, it sound fuller and has more bass
Charging
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Xiaomi advertised 43 mins from 0 to 100% and ... it`s almost like that, I got it from 0 to 100% for 45 minutes so the claim is total valid
IP68
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It has official rating but the only thing that worries me that I did not notice any rubber isolating on the sim tray slot
Camera
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The back camera is outstanding, color consistency between ultra-wide, main/wide and tele is OK, Xiaomi finally improved the audio quality (bitrate) in video recording. You can shoot Dolby Vision video 4K 60 FPS for 6 minutes, the only downside is the front camera HDR processing which is still not ideal and ... the FHD 30 FPS only mode for front camera video which is a bummer.
The only big downside I was able to find is that on 4K you cannot auto switch between the camera lenses when shooting video, you can only do that on the FHD.
The 3.2x Optical Zoom is OK and up to 10x it`s bearable but it`s worse than S22 Ultra zoom capabilities.
Chinees MIUI
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The ones I got comes with Google Basic Services, so you just switch a toggle and you have playstore you have google, so it`s good. It does though come with a lot of Chinese app that some might want to remove. It does also have native call recording.
Well that`s about this summed up, let me know if you have any questions or share your experience with the device.
Nice flat screen gorgeous phone
It just arrived today. I'm enjoying it a lot.
Tried to unlock it right away, but for some reason, Mi Flash tool told me to wait for a week , which is fine.
I'm eager to unlock, root, then globalize it via magisk modules.
The camera is really great, check the attachment for reference.
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Is there a way to order this thing from china since the europe prices are absolute nuts, 999€ gets me an s23 and enough money to buy the rest of the accessories
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Guys,
I have been using the Xiaomi 13 now for almost 2 weeks quality time as my mainly driver. Here my feedback in case any questions just hit me and I will try to reply. It`s a rather expensive device so... no questions should be left unanswered if you decide to go with it
Where did I buy it
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I bought it off trading shenzhen and it was delivered out of China for ~ 12 days. The price was 823 EUR for the 12/256 version
Which version
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I do believe that the 12//256 is a must if not... then strongly recommend. Why? The 8/128 version seems to have UFS 3.1 and UFS 4.0 is just better. How? UFS 4.0 can achieve read speeds of up to 4200MB/s and sequential write speeds of up to 2800MB/s. In contrast, UFS 3.1 has read and write speeds of up to 2100MB/s and 1200MB/s, respectively. And also 12/256 is a bit more future proof for the next 1-3 years at least
Form Factor
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With the size 6.36" it`s rather one of the few small Android phones and I love it. It fits in most of my pockets and I am using usually the S22 Ultra, so coming to a smaller screen didn’t felt too bad but it felt way more convenient.
Display
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I am a fan of curved screens and this is completely flat which is a bit problematic with gesture use and the included case. But the Samsung E6 AMOLED is really good, very bright (up to 1900 nit peak) and totally usable under direct sunlight. I have compared this to my S22 Ultra and it was not falling behind (S22U has lower peak nit as per specs) but it doesn’t feel like this when comparing.
Battery
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4500 mAh isnt too much sometimes with Android phones but here the results are outstanding I believe due to the Snapdragon 8 GEN 2 performance and efficiency. I get constantly over 6 hrs of SOT with mixed (mobile/wifi) use.
Snapdragon 8 gen 2
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That`s a beast, able to run at 45 C for a longer period of time w/o sacrificing performance. I was able to run 10 times AnTuTu with only losing 4% from the original score in one of the rounds. I was able to play Genshin Impact for 3 hours and 10 minutes running from 80% to 0%.
It’s a powerhouse and maybe the best chip to upgrade to if you are looking to stay with the phone for a longer period.
Speakers
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This year the Harman Kardon tuning is gone, but the speakers are loud, EQ works well, sound is balanced and compared to my S22Ultra I like the Xiaomi sound better, it sound fuller and has more bass
Charging
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Xiaomi advertised 43 mins from 0 to 100% and ... it`s almost like that, I got it from 0 to 100% for 45 minutes so the claim is total valid
IP68
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It has official rating but the only thing that worries me that I did not notice any rubber isolating on the sim tray slot
Camera
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The back camera is outstanding, color consistency between ultra-wide, main/wide and tele is OK, Xiaomi finally improved the audio quality (bitrate) in video recording. You can shoot Dolby Vision video 4K 60 FPS for 6 minutes, the only downside is the front camera HDR processing which is still not ideal and ... the FHD 30 FPS only mode for front camera video which is a bummer.
The only big downside I was able to find is that on 4K you cannot auto switch between the camera lenses when shooting video, you can only do that on the FHD.
The 3.2x Optical Zoom is OK and up to 10x it`s bearable but it`s worse than S22 Ultra zoom capabilities.
Chinees MIUI
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The ones I got comes with Google Basic Services, so you just switch a toggle and you have playstore you have google, so it`s good. It does though come with a lot of Chinese app that some might want to remove. It does also have native call recording.
Well that`s about this summed up, let me know if you have any questions or share your experience with the device.
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Nice review! Thank you! Just curious about the network support in your area and carrier. I'm thinking of buying the Chinese Mi 13 but I'm not sure how good it can be used with T-Mobile.
HTC Desire 310 said:
Is there a way to order this thing from china since the europe prices are absolute nuts, 999€ gets me an s23 and enough money to buy the rest of the accessories
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Bought one from JD.com, 4299 RMB (584.68€) for the 8gb, 256gb variant. Best deal I'll ever get, even gives me a hairdryer lmao.
Congratulations with your new devices, how is the proximity sensor doing? Does the screen turns black when bringing to your ear?
moviefirst said:
Congratulations with your new devices, how is the proximity sensor doing? Does the screen turns black when bringing to your ear?
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I haven't find anything wrong. Works just fine.
Like every time I buy Xiaomi with CN Rom it hurts... Experience is just so bad. So many lags and bugs. Luckily there is EU and other roms. I just need to wait 5 days.
I got red device 512GB few days ago and experience is mixed. Yeah it's a smaller phone finally (coming from MI11) but cameras are disappointing for now. Especially wide camera. I did had good experience with gcam on MI11 for ultra wide. So just waiting for that. Also the red color is not so red as advertised! Does anyone know does it have a pre applied back glass protector? Cuz it looks like it does and it would make sense because the color and feel to touch are just not so good! Battery life could be better. 5G on some networks is switching off and leaves you without network.. condom case as always is disgusting to touch and slippery.
(Ordered new thin mat black)
Nova Launcher beta finally works with gestures BUT you can't choose it as default launcher so it reverts to default one all the time so I uninstalled it...
Yeah , every time I give a chance to CN Rom and every time is just such a bad experience.
Oh yeah , some google services don't work like assistant, basically anything to do with microphone permission, good luck finding it in setting. If you do please let me know.
Duolingo app voice exercise, don't work , yeah, because microphone permissions... Goes through Google.
Google and China are not good friends. Bad Google bad !
And there is more trust me
Asnamus said:
Like every time I buy Xiaomi with CN Rom it hurts... Experience is just so bad. So many lags and bugs. Luckily there is EU and other roms. I just need to wait 5 days.
I got red device 512GB few days ago and experience is mixed. Yeah it's a smaller phone finally (coming from MI11) but cameras are disappointing for now. Especially wide camera. I did had good experience with gcam on MI11 for ultra wide. So just waiting for that. Also the red color is not so red as advertised! Does anyone know does it have a pre applied back glass protector? Cuz it looks like it does and it would make sense because the color and feel to touch are just not so good! Battery life could be better. 5G on some networks is switching off and leaves you without network.. condom case as always is disgusting to touch and slippery.
(Ordered new thin mat black)
Nova Launcher beta finally works with gestures BUT you can't choose it as default launcher so it reverts to default one all the time so I uninstalled it...
Yeah , every time I give a chance to CN Rom and every time is just such a bad experience.
Oh yeah , some google services don't work like assistant, basically anything to do with microphone permission, good luck finding it in setting. If you do please let me know.
Duolingo app voice exercise, don't work , yeah, because microphone permissions... Goes through Google.
Google and China are not good friends. Bad Google bad !
And there is more trust me
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Thx for replying, so it's not a virtual proximity sensor? And when you switch to eu Rom , please write your experience. Good luck!