Note 20 Ultra Camera Issue - Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers

Since the Samsung camera app was updated, I am having a very annoying issue. When the camera version was the one where you choosed the camera (wide, normal or tele) with a "leaf" the camera was amazing. Now, with the new camera version you don't choose the camera, you instead choose the zoom level. That means that you press the 5x button on screen and the camera digitally zooms in from 1x and then it changes to the 5x tele (if it decides to). That is simply absurd, because it can take a lot of time to change the camera and many times I need to take a fast picture of my children for example.
I attach an example. I have been pointing to that picture for at least 30 seconds. It even suggests the picture composition, but it DOES NOT CHANGE to the 5x camera!!! Why??? Why change something that worked flawlessly as it was??? This rendered my phone almost useless, because the 5x camera was the one I used almost always.
Is there a way to install the old camera version? Even if it requires to install a custom rom.

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[Q] seeking specific camera (and other) functions

hello.
haven't been on this site for quite some time, but i am familiar with using custom roms.
i'm using an htc desire s with android 4.0.4, stock rom from htc site.
there are certain things i like about ICS, and other things that simply boggle me.
i've been considering using a custom rom again, but i was hoping someone could shed some light on specific features/functions.
in other words, i would be changing to a custom rom if one is available that has these features, otherwise i'll just leave it alone.
firstly: the camera.
when trying to take up-close photos (macro), the camera will attempt to focus, will succeed, then quickly snap back to being blurry. this happens less with "auto focus" turned off, but it's still frustrating (i can see the hardware moving the camera focus to where i want it, but i can't keep it there). turning on the Scene called "close up" will allow the hardware to stay in the focused range, where i want it, but it overrides the white balance, such that i can't adjust the white balance any more, and the colour is always -always- different from the colour settings in the "auto" Scene setting. very frustrating indeed.
that's problem one.
but the bigger problem (with the camera) is:
when taking a photo where a flash is required/desired (in low lighting), i have to take many -many- photos before i happen to roll the dice and get one in focus. basically, holding up the camera to the darkened scene, the screen is mostly dark. i can take a photo with the flash, but the camera uses the same moment of flash to implement the focus, which is essentially entirely useless. in other words: dark scene, dark screen, flash ready, click to take a photo, flashtrytofocustakepicture = blurry picture. the picture only turns out well if the focus happens to catch in just the right way at the right time.
in contrast, while the stock camera app behaves this way, when i use google goggles, the camera behaves differently. there is a simple button which turns the led light on and off BEFORE taking a picture, which means the focus can function normally on a fully lit scene and then a picture can be taken, in focus. funny thing about that: the photo result that shows as a preview (immediately after snapping a photo in google goggles) is the desired photo, however it is not the photo that the app recognises nor which is saved on the sd card. anyhow, that's a different issue.
the point is: it seems clear to me that the hardware is capable, and the software is capable, but they have not been married correctly in 4.0.4.
would anyone be able to confirm whether another rom or camera app has the macro and light-before-focus capabilities described above?
i have some other questions about the way text copy and paste is implimented, but i'll just stick with the camera question for now.
thanks in advance for any information.

[Q] Can't focus macro with flash

The photon's camera is killing me. I can't take macro pictures in shady conditions. This is what happens when I'm trying to take that picture.
-I'm aiming on some surface/object (shady and close).
-Camera sets exposure to brighten the picture.
-I'm tapping the area to focus.
-Flash turns on.
-In split second camera is blinded by flash and aborts focus.
Please someone tell me there is some tweak to make camera wait with flash. I tried many camera apps but only solution I found was constant flash in e.g Camera FV-5. But i'm not satisfied with that.
For example my Samsung Xcover 2 is turning flash on, changes the exposure to not be blinded and focus like a charm.
That is why I use "Focal" as my camera app.
You can turn on the "flashlight" and then focus.
I have never found a similiar good app (focal is not perfect but it is ok) with that "feature".
I have never found a similiar good app (focal is not perfect but it is ok) with that "feature".
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There is e.g. "Camera FV-5", "lgCamera" and "A Better Camera" with this feature. You can try them and compare with Focal. But me, as I said, I'm not satisfied with that
Thx for the little list.
Anyway, I don't have a better way of focusing.
Maybe this is (also) controlled by the ROM?
It may be possible to add the same procedure like in the Samsung Xcover 5.
(Not for me but for the developers of CM.)

How do You Set camera to function on Automatic.?

How do you return the Mate 9 camera settings to what is seen on a new phone? In other words all pictures now are hazy and my lady friend does not know how to get camera back to have camera work on Auto and get clear sharp focused pictures. Since she is 8000 miles away I cannot help her by reading online pdf as there are no examples shown with each of the myriad settings and I think it would be better to let her just shoot in full auto at this time. How do you restore camera to allow best overall images possible?
Open camera, swipe left, scroll to bottom, tap the Restore Defaults button.
Thank you very much she did that. Problem is all pictures are seeming to lack saturation and is that normal for the Mate 9 OOB? Also I was reading that the first thing to do is change resolution to 12M but she told me that there is only 8 M and smaller down to .3M (4 choices) ?
She needs to stop taking selfies
For the back camera you have up to 20M, for the front it's 8M.
When you have selfie mode (front camera mode) on you can only change settings for that mode (though restoring Defaults restore both/all modes' settings)
Thank you but the only use of front camera is video chat but she restored defaults so it should be fine now ???

[Q] How to always open rear camera, even if the front camera was opened last time?

It is utterly annoying if the camera launches into front camera instead of rear camera, because it was exited last time with the front camera active.
Which configuration file stores the last used camera? I would like to create a shell script to automatically set front camera to rear camera each 5 minutes using text substitution.
(Or is there an even better method? If so, which?)
Of course, one could alternatively just pay attention each time when exiting the camera, but I would like to automate it to add that bit of convenience.

Mi 10 Ultra "Periscope Zoom"

Hi!
This may seem like a strange question. What does the camera on the back of the Mi 10 Ultra that looks like the periscope zoom actually do? The one that's in the "silver island"
I have had my Ultra since August, and simply assumed that this was indeed the periscope zoom, but this morning I noticed a very fine scratch in the corner of this camera. So I put it in 5x zoom, and saw that it didn't impact on the image. Then I realised that if I put my finger over this lens entirely, there was still no impact to the zoom!
So if we look from top, "Silver island" lens should be 5x zoom but covering it has no effect on any zoom level.
The next one down is the 2x zoom, interestingly if I cover this with my finger, it's mostly covered, but occasionally will jump to the main lens for a second or 2 for no reason.
The third camera is the main lens, this is also the one that is being used for 5x zoom and above, like they're taking a crop from that module as they did in my Mi Note 10 (and I assume the Mi 10 Pro, which I think is what the Ultra ROM is based off?)
And of course the final one is the incredibly poorly-positioned ultrawide
I've recently upgraded to Android 11 - MIUI 12.1.1.0 (RJJCNXM) so I've no idea whether this behaviour has always been the case, or if this upgrade has caused an issue.
I noticed that since the upgrade, the dots on the camera app for the "preset zooms" has gained a new option, a somewhat pointless 0.8x ultrawide which again just seems to be a crop of the ultrawide.
So, can anyone else test and confirm this? Has the latest upgrade "disabled" the periscope zoom?
Thanks
The periscope camera on Mi 10 Ultra is exactly what you'd expect, something as illustrated here.
It should kick in when you zoom by 5x and more within the camera app. However, I've randomly noticed (some months ago) that the app itself seems to behave in a way that if you zoom in over 5x and cover the periscope lens with your finger, the app will (temporarily) fall back to digital zoom using the main lens (3rd one from the top) even for higher zoom levels, because it assumes that there's something wrong with the periscope one.
In my experience, it would just automatically use the periscope camera when needed the next time I zoom, assuming it isn't covered this time.
If it doesn't, try to zoom like 10x and cover the main lens this time around, if it switches to periscope as it should.
Are you using xiaomi EU ROM?
fw85 said:
The periscope camera on Mi 10 Ultra is exactly what you'd expect, something as illustrated here.
It should kick in when you zoom by 5x and more within the camera app. However, I've randomly noticed (some months ago) that the app itself seems to behave in a way that if you zoom in over 5x and cover the periscope lens with your finger, the app will (temporarily) fall back to digital zoom using the main lens (3rd one from the top) even for higher zoom levels, because it assumes that there's something wrong with the periscope one.
In my experience, it would just automatically use the periscope camera when needed the next time I zoom, assuming it isn't covered this time.
If it doesn't, try to zoom like 10x and cover the main lens this time around, if it switches to periscope as it should.
Are you using xiaomi EU ROM?
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Thanks for the reply. I feel like my phone is using the main 3rd camera for 5x zoom by default.
If I put the camera app into 5x zoom and cover the 3rd lens with my finger, the photo is obscured, if I put my finger over the periscope lens nothing happens
The same behaviour is displayed for 10x zoom, and any zoom up to 14.9x
However, once it goes into 15x zoom and above, you see "picture within picture" and the viewfinder does seem to be powered by the periscope, and the main 3rd lens is then responsible for the mini image in the corner, please see my attached screenshot, where I have covered the periscope lens with my finger.
So I guess what I'm wondering is...
1) Is my phone screwed?
2) Are 5x to 14.9x zoom shots taken with the main lens by default, by design or is this a bug?
3) Has this behaviour always been the case, or only since I upgraded?
I'm on Android 11 - MIUI 12.1.1.0 (RJJCNXM) which was an OTA update
If it's any use my baseband is c7-3033.23-0120_2103_79a330f and my kernel is 4.1.9.113-perf-gd722e10
t3chfan said:
Thanks for the reply. I feel like my phone is using the main 3rd camera for 5x zoom by default.
If I put the camera app into 5x zoom and cover the 3rd lens with my finger, the photo is obscured, if I put my finger over the periscope lens nothing happens
The same behaviour is displayed for 10x zoom, and any zoom up to 14.9x
However, once it goes into 15x zoom and above, you see "picture within picture" and the viewfinder does seem to be powered by the periscope, and the main 3rd lens is then responsible for the mini image in the corner, please see my attached screenshot, where I have covered the periscope lens with my finger.
So I guess what I'm wondering is...
1) Is my phone screwed?
2) Are 5x to 14.9x zoom shots taken with the main lens by default, by design or is this a bug?
3) Has this behaviour always been the case, or only since I upgraded?
I'm on Android 11 - MIUI 12.1.1.0 (RJJCNXM) which was an OTA update
If it's any use my baseband is c7-3033.23-0120_2103_79a330f and my kernel is 4.1.9.113-perf-gd722e10
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Alright so I just went ahead and tested this (I use the EU ROM, but the camera app is just the same thing ported over).
What I found out is:
1. if I click 5x zoom in the camera app and autofocus is focusing on near objects (<1 meter), such as something on the desk I'm sitting at, it will default to main lens with digital zoom,
2. while still in the 5x zoom mode, if I turn the phone around and autofocus acquires focus on the opposite end of the room (~7 meters), the app will automatically switch to the periscope lens,
Which brings me to the conclusion, that:
1. the periscope lens has a minimum focus distance significantly greater than the main lens,
2. if you try to use zoom level of 5x and above, while focusing on an object relatively close to the camera (something up to 1 meter), it will fall back to digital zoom with the main lens, as the periscope lens is unable to obtain focus on such short distance
3. if you want to confirm this, avoid the automatic lens switching and make sure your periscope lens is operating correctly, you can use the Pro mode in the camera app, select the periscope lens manually on the right side (here it's called TELE 5X), and play around with it
fw85 said:
Alright so I just went ahead and tested this (I use the EU ROM, but the camera app is just the same thing ported over).
What I found out is:
1. if I click 5x zoom in the camera app and autofocus is focusing on near objects (<1 meter), such as something on the desk I'm sitting at, it will default to main lens with digital zoom,
2. while still in the 5x zoom mode, if I turn the phone around and autofocus acquires focus on the opposite end of the room (~7 meters), the app will automatically switch to the periscope lens,
Which brings me to the conclusion, that:
1. the periscope lens has a minimum focus distance significantly greater than the main lens,
2. if you try to use zoom level of 5x and above, while focusing on an object relatively close to the camera (something up to 1 meter), it will fall back to digital zoom with the main lens, as the periscope lens is unable to obtain focus on such short distance
3. if you want to confirm this, avoid the automatic lens switching and make sure your periscope lens is operating correctly, you can use the Pro mode in the camera app, select the periscope lens manually on the right side (here it's called TELE 5X), and play around with it
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Thanks so much for your help! Don't I feel a bit silly now But reassured that it works as I thought and I'm just an idiot

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