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Question S21+ vs Note 10+

Torn between S21+ and Note 10+. Watched Youtube videos and found nearly all the videos and the follow-up comments were one-sided: Note 10+ is better than S21+. Considering Note 10+ was 1.5 years older than S21+, it's hard to believe that note 10+ is really better than S21+. S21+ is now on sale plus the trade-in program with the T-mobile promotion. Which one is worth buying note 10+ or S21+? Thank you for the help!

You can still get a new N975U for $800 running on Q. I have two now, the other is a N975U1 running on Pie. In spite of being almost 2.5 years old my original one looks and runs like new. One battery replacement was the only repair. The display is still perfect. Current load will be 2 years old in June, still fast and stable.
SOT is 7-13%@hr, 7%@hr for Brave browser more for streaming vids.
The deal breaker against the S21+ are:
•No SD card* slot, I use a .5tb V30 Sandisk extreme soon the be upgraded to 1tb.
•The S21 and all variable rate displays have slightly poorer color rendering and numerous display issues of all sorts. The N10+ display has an excellent track record and it's gorgeous with square corners. Perfect for vids.
•The N10+ comes loaded with Q, no forced encryption and scoped storage isn't fully active, older apps run fine on it like WPS Office.
•The N10+ has a native spen for bt remote shutter release and the very useful Smart Capture tool.
•The N10+ is 7mm thick so even when well protected in a Zizo Bolt case it's not very thick and easy to hold and use.
•5G not needed as my cheap unlimited data plan is 4G. 4G uses less battery which is important to me.
•Cams are pretty damn good on the N10+, laser focus be nice but not high on the list. The better color rendering of the N19+ display outweigh the slightly better cams of newer models.
•Build quality of the N10+ is excellent, battle tested. All buttons, the spen still work like new.
Beyond all that the N10+ is a fun, snappy phone to use even after over 2 years. With 12gb of ram you just don't run out, nominal usage is 4.9-5.2gb on Pie.
The new one was $800, I didn't blink at the price as I know what I was getting. Both will likely never be upgraded to 11 or 12, security isn't an issue for Pie and up. Both can be upgraded to 12 if you wish but likely not 13.
The other phone I considered was the N20U but the 10+ won out. I'm having an excellent user experience with the beast, so I got a backup
*I use the SD card as a data drive, all critical data goes there including full backups (within the limits of a stock Android). I can do a full reload with no internet connection or PC, anywhere.
Moreover I carry my entire CD/HDCD collection in my pocket as wav files. A fast dual drive 1+tb PC in your pocket is magnificent.

Thank you Blackhawk! How is the camera on note 10+ compared with S21+? On eBay, I saw "brand new" note 10+ for less than $500.

pzz123 said:
Thank you Blackhawk! How is the camera on note 10+ compared with S21+? On eBay, I saw "brand new" note 10+ for less than $500.
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You're welcome.
Well I never shot with the S21+ so for all I know it's AF gets lock ons instantly. The 10+'s shutter release could be faster but nothing to compare to except pro cams I shoot with
Still pics, vids are good, action shots not... unless you use burst mode which is easy to do by simply holding the release.
Using the spen as a remote shutter release is great though. Below is one from 10 feet out... not even trying to make it nice.
Be very careful with vendors. Best to talk with them first on the phone. Many are misrepresenting what they are selling. The Snapdragon variant you want is the N975U, it interfaces with AT&T just by putting in the sim card. Assuming you're using AT&T; get the correct variant for your provider. Make sure it has 12gb of ram. Used ones will likely be reflashed to Android 11. You want to keep display brightness at 50% or lower; did the previous owner? AMOLED displays have a finite lifespan; the brightest stars burn out first.
Factory sealed, two day free delivery. I like this seller, not super cheap but top shelf phones, zero issues and he answers his phone. I did a lot of searching...
Personally I think the S21+ is a dog.
In my opinion the Note20U be your next best choice but I dismissed it in part because of potential reliability issues with the display, the display color rendering is less than the 10, and they are shipped with Android 11. The 5G modem will likely eat battery and it's form factor sucks. You may feel differently and as of today it is the last Note. Faster memory/cpu/spen, excellent cam (and hump) and variable refresh rate display. Be very careful if you buy one, a lot of scamming going on with this model worse than what I saw with the N10... it's bad.
Make sure it has 12gb of ram and is the unlocked factory model.
Got a headache yet?

Awesome! Thanks. I am now seriously thinking about getting a note 10+ instead of s21+. Appreciate your help!

pzz123 said:
Awesome! Thanks. I am now seriously thinking about getting a note 10+ instead of s21+. Appreciate your help!
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It's a tough call between the N10+ and N20U*. On paper the N20U seems to have the edge.
In real life though... results may vary
Note 10+ display review.
Note 20U display review.
*S21+, for me the call is an easy no go

Question Who switched from S21U to S22U?

Hello
Having an S21U exynos for a year now I am thinking to swap it with a S22U snapdragon (yes we are getting Snapdragon in Middle East at last)
Who "upgraded" from S21 Ultra to S22 Ultra?
Do you regret it?
-Do you feel the screen is bigger and better?
-Is it true the speakers are bad? (Flossy Carter review)
-The battery is as good as the s21 ultra or worst?
-Anyone tried a third party 45w charger? Would it be faster than the Samsung one?
-Can you finally enlarge the statusbar to get a bigger clock font?

I actually did the upgrade basically because the pre-order incentives made it close to a 1:1 swap for me and I wanted to have a stylus / note experience.
To give you some replies to your direct questions:
Don't regret it.
Screen is basically the same.
Speakers seem fine, but I don't use them very loudly, would use another media device or headphones for that.
Battery seems equal, but I'm not a heavy gamer where the power hungry tendencies of the chip may be felt.
Haven't tried 45W fast charge, I use slow charge overnight and don't need to top off during the day .
Have never thought to enlarge font on status bar, but I would imagine that would not be any ability put into a specific phone model. You'd be looking for Goodlock module or some other 3rd party app to do so.
Bottom line, I'm loving the phone, but I loved my s21 ultra too. If I had to pay a lot to upgrade I would not have - most upgrades are negligible and both phones are amazingly capable.
Note - had SD version of s21 Ultra, have SD version of s22 Ultra. Not sure if Exynos changes the equation for you at all.

It is not a justified jump, because I think s21u is a complete phone. S22 is slight better in ever aspect + S pen but is worst in ergonomics.

vegetaleb said:
Hello
Having an S21U exynos for a year now I am thinking to swap it with a S22U snapdragon (yes we are getting Snapdragon in Middle East at last)
Who "upgraded" from S21 Ultra to S22 Ultra?
Do you regret it?
-Do you feel the screen is bigger and better?
-Is it true the speakers are bad? (Flossy Carter review)
-The battery is as good as the s21 ultra or worst?
-Anyone tried a third party 45w charger? Would it be faster than the Samsung one?
-Can you finally enlarge the statusbar to get a bigger clock font?
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I have both Snapdragon US variantrs
-bigger better? Better YES, Bigger, a bit
-speakers are great and both sound identical and good
-battery is better than my s21u
-I have a baseus 65w gan2 pro and it works great!
-not sure with the last part tho

I have used both Snapdragon variants. The S21 Ultra has better speakers, is narrower to hold, and has a stronger vibrate motor. Other than that the S22 Ultra is the same.

They're not the same phone. S22U is basically a note ultra.

Camera is better, mainly video glitching with AF hunting is fixed. It's the closest to iphone 13 Pro max I've seen.
Speakers don't sound as rich, but Apple wins in this department. Their speakers are like the HTC One M7 days. Battery life is brutal at first but once things settle in it's acceptable. No 13 Pro Max (is any phone even close LOL) but workable. S-pen is back, Note users rejoice! Biggest of all is e-sim actually works out of the box with the unlocked version in the USA!

I went from S21U to Google Pixel 6 Pro (meh) and now S22U, and I love it. Selling my S21U and Google 6 Pro. The camera on the S22U is a BEAST. The 1TB storage is incredible. The speed is great and I have zero regrets. Remember: soooooo many people are negative online, believe about 5% of what most people say.

I did. I dont regret it at all.
Better all around camera, especially low light pics and vids, as well as zoom past 10x. Way less lens flare too.
Battery seems almost the same, possibly a lil better.
Screen is brighter and better. My brother is still using his S21U, we put them side to side to compare. Yes, screen feels bigger/larger. S Pen is great!

Thanks everyone
So the snapdragon version doesn't suffer from the lags some people reported elsewhere?
About the speakers, people who found them not as good as the s21u, did you mean the sound quality or loudness?
I didn't root my s21u but I would for my s22u if it needs some sound mods

vegetaleb said:
Thanks everyone
So the snapdragon version doesn't suffer from the lags some people reported elsewhere?
About the speakers, people who found them not as good as the s21u, did you mean the sound quality or loudness?
I didn't root my s21u but I would for my s22u if it needs some sound mods
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I used the S21U for quite some time when it came out and now I[m on S22U, no regrets, like the form factor and design and SnapDragon is just sweet, no lags or issues on my part in more than a month. Sound is really good but then again, I'm mostly on headphones

Did they fix the built in earpiece speaker when using the phone to the ear and on a call it would exhibit distorted output if HD calling was not being used on the s21u.

Question First Pixel 7 Pro?

Looking to purchase 7 Pro had samsung , oneplus , xioami . At moment im on s21 Ultra which i have had since release don't know whether wait for 23 ultra or pick up 7 Pro. main thing for me is battery life . on my s21 ultra i would get day and half with 6hrs s.o.t .

I'd say wait for the s23.

As much as I *hate* Samsung, the S23 Ultra will almost surely have better battery life.

I don't understand all the battery hate. I make it through the day easily with usually 50% left. It's all user dependent I guess or there's a shatload of bad batteries floating around. Just switch off the majority of not needed Google wizardry and don't game non stop and your good to go.

I'd say I love Samsung hardware but I'm not huge fan of OneUI. If Samsung release ever like Google Play edition of Galaxy S22 Ultra, Note design then it will be best device for long term.

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I don't understand all the battery hate. I make it through the day easily with usually 50% left. It's all user dependent I guess or there's a shatload of bad batteries floating around. Just switch off the majority of not needed Google wizardry and don't game non stop and your good to go.
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The battery hate is because there are so many devices that do so much better. Also sometimes the phone just decides to start using way more battery than previous trends doing the same things it was doing before.

Sure but it's a mixed bag with different experiences per user. My psp7 runs about 50% longer than my Note 20 ultra with the same kind of usage.

P7P stock kernel doesn't seem to be very good in delivering/managing power usage. Sometimes the device heat up simply because i run YT Music. But some other days, it survives hours of screen time morning to night. I always check what run on BG when the device heat up, and it's nothing, really, it just that the device decide to run on higher freq for no good reason.
If you bought this phone, one thing you might want to do is using custom Kernel. I didn't do so because apparently i gonna need to wipe my phone to do first kernel flash. Which is a big turn off.
If you dont feel comfy about flashing and elses, i'd say, wait for S23 or Xiaomi 13 Pro

otonieru said:
P7P stock kernel doesn't seem to be very good in delivering/managing power usage. Sometimes the device heat up simply because i run YT Music. But some other days, it survives hours of screen time morning to night. I always check what run on BG when the device heat up, and it's nothing, really, it just that the device decide to run on higher freq for no good reason.
If you bought this phone, one thing you might want to do is using custom Kernel. I didn't do so because apparently i gonna need to wipe my phone to do first kernel flash. Which is a big turn off.
If you dont feel comfy about flashing and elses, i'd say, wait for S23 or Xiaomi 13 Pro
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This is a fact! With the stock Kernel, I was using CPU Mintor daily to check my temps which typically ran above 30 C. Usually in the mid-30's. Over 40 when charging.
With the Kirasakura I usually run about 26-28 C.

EtherealRemnant said:
As much as I *hate* Samsung, the S23 Ultra will almost surely have better battery life.
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I wouldn't bet on it , personally. My P7P has considerably better battery life than my brothers S22 Ultra (UK Exynos model). It also has better battery life than my old S21 Ultra had, and the S21 Ultra is known to have better battery life than the S22 Ultra.
Unless the upcoming S23 Ultra brings something new to the table to improve the battery life over the previous two generations, I can see it being about the same.
The question for me shouldn't be about battery life, which overall on most flagships now is relatively similar, rather how happy are you with Sumsung's UI and how important an S-Pen is, which will certainly be included again. Camera will be a little better than the P7P (especially with zoom). I've already gone on record that the P7P isn't worth an upgrade from the S21 Ultra and if mine hadn't been broken and unrepairable I would still have it.
Stick with the S21 Ultra would be my advice and see if the S23 Ultra bring something new. Unless you want Android in its vanilla form, in which case the P7P is definitely worth a look, especially given its about 25% cheaper than a Samsung flagship.

pro4ever said:
Looking to purchase 7 Pro had samsung , oneplus , xioami . At moment im on s21 Ultra which i have had since release don't know whether wait for 23 ultra or pick up 7 Pro. main thing for me is battery life . on my s21 ultra i would get day and half with 6hrs s.o.t .
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Stay away from it for now!I just purchased one myself,and sent it back because it overheats like crazy!Don't get me wrong,the performance is there but that face burning battery was enough for me...lol

Beefheart said:
I wouldn't bet on it , personally. My P7P has considerably better battery life than my brothers S22 Ultra (UK Exynos model). It also has better battery life than my old S21 Ultra had, and the S21 Ultra is known to have better battery life than the S22 Ultra.
Unless the upcoming S23 Ultra brings something new to the table to improve the battery life over the previous two generations, I can see it being about the same.
The question for me shouldn't be about battery life, which overall on most flagships now is relatively similar, rather how happy are you with Sumsung's UI and how important an S-Pen is, which will certainly be included again. Camera will be a little better than the P7P (especially with zoom). I've already gone on record that the P7P isn't worth an upgrade from the S21 Ultra and if mine hadn't been broken and unrepairable I would still have it.
Stick with the S21 Ultra would be my advice and see if the S23 Ultra bring something new. Unless you want Android in its vanilla form, in which case the P7P is definitely worth a look, especially given its about 25% cheaper than a Samsung flagship.
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Well the S23 Ultra is using Snapdragon chips worldwide and the TSMC-produced 8 Gen 2 is looking like an efficiency beast. I hear you on the Samsung UI and I'm also not too excited to lose root but the S23 Ultra could be a great device to jump to if people are tired of being tied to the charger with the Pixel (both due to the slow charging speed and the poor battery endurance on mobile data, particularly 5G). Samsung also always saves the best displays for themselves.

I have a S22 plus and just got the Pixel 7 Pro on sale.
Obviously the Ultra is a lot different than the plus. I have no need for a spen on a phone. I am not a fan of curved screens either but I took a gamble because of the sale price and I really like vanilla android.
The text to speech is pretty amazing. The screen is also nicer than the S22 plus stuck at 1080p.
Battery life right out the box and installing and updating and syncing seems pretty good so far. Definitely better than my S22 plus.
I think the big difference is cost. The Ultra even with a recent trade in is almost as expensive as this device is on sale with no trade. That is a pretty significant factor to me.
The s23 Ultra will be a better phone no doubt. Samsung has the hardware on lock and the new 8 gen 2 even on Samsung fab should be a pretty significant upgrade.
However Google works magic with Pixel phones and slower processors so I don't think there will be a big difference in day to day use.
It really depends what you prioritize and like best. If you like OneUI and the absolute best hardware then hands down get the Samsung. Samsung Galaxy devices are some of the best and if the S22 plus had quad hd I might say get that instead but with the better screen and bigger battery the Ultra is best.
However if you like Google services, great AI features, decent camera, fast updates and good battery life and cost is a factor then the Pixel is a really great choice.

Having used both the S21 Ultra and Pixel 7 Pro, the S21 Ultra has both better battery life and performance overall. The only reasons to switch would be for the cleaner software experience, better camera, and slightly smaller size. I agree, wait for the S23 Ultra.

Guyinlaca said:
Having used both the S21 Ultra and Pixel 7 Pro, the S21 Ultra has both better battery life and performance overall. The only reasons to switch would be for the cleaner software experience, better camera, and slightly smaller size. I agree, wait for the S23 Ultra.
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Is that S21 Ultra on Exynos or Snapdragon? For me in the UK on Exynos, the S21 Ultra absolutely did not have superior battery life to what I get on the P7P. And various reports I saw at the time said that, whilst the Snapdragon S21 Ultra was the better phone for performance, for battery life the Exynos was better. Although I can't confirm as I never had the SD variant.

The Snapdragon S21 Ultra perhaps has the best battery life of any mainstream Android device, closely followed by the S22 Ultra then the Pixel 7 Pro. It could be that the S22 Ultra being on Verizon and the S21 Ultra being on T-Mobile played a role. The 7 Pro is a good improvement over the 6 Pro battery wise.

Question I plan to buy a galaxy s22 ultra, advice before buying please

Hi everyone, please I plan to buy a galaxy s22 ultra, but most videos or youtubers talk about heating or overheating, advice before buying, exynos or snapdragon or which version, thank you in advance

I don't have any issues with overheating, never have.
Just look for your best deal between Samsung or your carrier with trade-ins.

ryant35 said:
I don't have any issues with overheating, never have.
Just look for your best deal between Samsung or your carrier with trade-ins.
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thank you, look at the comments please

First week with this phone.
I don't have any kind of overheating.
On the other hand, battery is sort of dissapointing, it lasts the same as my older phones (mi 10, mi 9, honor 8, nexus 5). Around 6 hours of SOT give or take. And the charging is slower than mi 10/9.

Sticky92 said:
First week with this phone.
I don't have any kind of overheating.
On the other hand, battery is sort of dissapointing, it lasts the same as my older phones (mi 10, mi 9, honor 8, nexus 5). Around 6 hours of SOT give or take. And the charging is slower than mi 10/9.
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Does that mean other than that everything is fine? I hesitate between honor magic4 pro and realme gt 2 pro because I like samsung but I don't really know

whait for s23 ultra with sd 8 gen 2

Wait for the S23u with 8gen2, the 8gen1 and exy2200 are both inefficient.

I've got around 7 of these phones and out of them 3 had severe lag.
128gb seems to be the worst, higher memory seem to perform better.
Unless you are getting a bargain I'd wait for s23 ultra

samlis said:
Hi everyone, please I plan to buy a galaxy s22 ultra, but most videos or youtubers talk about heating or overheating, advice before buying, exynos or snapdragon or which version, thank you in advance
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Why? S23 is around the corner. From the leaks it will be much better in power efficiency, specially if you are in EU and stuck with the Exynos chip which i think sucks. I read Snapdragon takes better images and is more efficient (even if i read they get overheated also)....but much of that is fixed in the S23 that uses a updated gen2 chip.
S22U is a great phone but i'm dissapointed with battery and image quality still.
Compared to my iPhone images are a hit and miss. Sometimes they are awesome but sometimes they are grainy or colors are off or just blurry.
And as said battery drain is pretty bad. Like overnight dropping 7-8% compared to 2-3% on iphone.
Same when i use it, i can literally see the battery go down...

1. Notification bar is looking like it is a theme made 10 years ago.
2. Lagging and stutters is very possible, depends on unit to unit.
3. Phone does overheat if you planning to use an app that is a heavy resources consuption or badly optimized.
4. Samsung's devices are overfilled with bloat-ware.
5. Battery efficiency is pretty bad.
6. A lot of S22U were sent back for a replacement due to multiple hardware issues, for example mine is restarting by it self when a phone call starts (not every time) but at least few times a month.
7. Edges are not usefull at all but rather annoying.
8. Stylus has terrible grip, very uncountable to hold.
9. Speaker is terrible too, if you planning to listen to a music at full volume, stop.
10. It has very annoying notifications that are not important at all and unable to deactivate, for example (Messenger is using your mobile data).
11. Fingerprint scanner is ok but could be better, sometimes I have to touch it 3 - 5 times to get it registered (depends on angle).
I've been struggling with stutters, lags as well as audio stutters for several months until a big update came up. Scrolling through UI was extremly jerky.
Personally I would never buy a samsung's device ever again but that is just me and I understand other may be completely satisfied.
For older devices Samsung is releasing updates that are slowing the devices down so people have to buy newer products regularly. For me this is just unacceptable. This is a verified info that you can search for too.

c0n73mn said:
1. Notification bar is looking like it is a theme made 10 years ago.
2. Lagging and stutters is very possible, depends on unit to unit.
3. Phone does overheat if you planning to use an app that is a heavy resources consuption or badly optimized.
4. Samsung's devices are overfilled with bloat-ware.
5. Battery efficiency is pretty bad.
6. A lot of S22U were sent back for a replacement due to multiple hardware issues, for example mine is restarting by it self when a phone call starts (not every time) but at least few times a month.
7. Edges are not usefull at all but rather annoying.
8. Stylus has terrible grip, very uncountable to hold.
9. Speaker is terrible too, if you planning to listen to a music at full volume, stop.
10. It has very annoying notifications that are not important at all and unable to deactivate, for example (Messenger is using your mobile data).
11. Fingerprint scanner is ok but could be better, sometimes I have to touch it 3 - 5 times to get it registered (depends on angle).
I've been struggling with stutters, lags as well as audio stutters for several months until a big update came up. Scrolling through UI was extremly jerky.
Personally I would never buy a samsung's device ever again but that is just me and I understand other may be completely satisfied.
For older devices Samsung is releasing updates that are slowing the devices down so people have to buy newer products regularly. For me this is just unacceptable. This is a verified info that you can search for too.
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I think it's an SOC issue on the s22u both the 8gen1 and Exy2200 are fabbed by Samsung foundries and are poor(Samsung foundries 4nm node was awful with low yields). The zfold4 with TSMC 8+Gen1 is one of the smoothest and fastest phones I've used recently, even much better than the Pixel. I don't think the issue is OneUI. I expect the S23u with the TSMC 8gen2 will be blazing fast and buttery smooth.

Might not be relevant to you, but I by now *regrett* buying the Samsung S22 Ultra.
The reason being that (depending on where you buy your phone) the firmware for your region will disable a lot of features. E.g. for me it is impossible to somehow activate the eSIM support.
And I really tried all the tweaks that are out there.
But you only notice these things after you've purchased the phone, because nothing about this is written in the manuals.
So my advice: Stay away from Samung phones.

Honestly, the s22 Ultra was a trash offering, regardless of the chipset, of course Exynos is worse. I'm trading it in for the s23 Ultra (I'm stuck with Samsung due to the purchase of a Samsung watch) and hopefully it won't be disappointing this time around. But to what I said earlier do be careful of what wearables you buy and from what brand, Samsung has great wearables, but half the features and functions usually get limited to their phones/devices. Unfortunately I didn't realise this when I bought my Galaxy Watch 4, and so now I'm stuck for at least a few years till I swap out the wearable and then the phone brand itself, probably back to Xiaomi.

I have the S22 Ultra snapdragon, great phone but some minor annoyances
. Battery it's not poor but could be better for 5000mah
. Speakers could be a bit louder
. And camera is rubbish at capturing moving subjects it always comes out blurry

I am in the same bought boat as you and bit the bullet and bought the s22 ultra 256GB. It's been 3 days since I bought it and honestly I am really satisfied. I had the z fold4 before but I found it impractical, the s22 ultra has almost the same level of performance with no noticeable downgrade. I have the snapdragon variant and it does not overheat. Battery life is OK, but it's too early to judge as it is still learning my usage patterns.
Overall I recommend buying the s22 ultra even though s23 ultra is right around the corner. Yes, it will have an effecient CPU, but I do not expect much from a single generation leap. A real upgrade would be s24 ultra as it is expected that the entire design will change

Don't plan on upgrading my S22U to the S23U. However if I were in the market for a new phone I'd wait another month and get the S23U. No brainer IMHO.

i agree with most of the reviews here. this device does not worth it.
can't believe it's actually rated as a Ultra/premium device

For all of you counting the S23U to be the perfect phone...did they not told us that the S22U was the best of the best?
Like the SD8Gen2 will solve all your problems...
I have both the S21U and S22U with the Exynos chip and both are running fine, no overheating, no lags or stutters.
From what I have read so far is that Android 13 with One UI 5.0 has improved a lot on both the S21 and S22. I had no complaints on Android 12 and have no complaints on the latest software.
Battery life...I can't complain but then I don't have any of the social media apps on my phone which seems to be using a lot of battery.
We have little to no bloatware on the EU versions and even then this is a one time solution, delete the bloatware.
At the end of the day its ONLY a phone. There are far more important things in life than this.

cfds said:
For all of you counting the S23U to be the perfect phone...did they not told us that the S22U was the best of the best?
Like the SD8Gen2 will solve all your problems...
I have both the S21U and S22U with the Exynos chip and both are running fine, no overheating, no lags or stutters.
From what I have read so far is that Android 13 with One UI 5.0 has improved a lot on both the S21 and S22. I had no complaints on Android 12 and have no complaints on the latest software.
Battery life...I can't complain but then I don't have any of the social media apps on my phone which seems to be using a lot of battery.
We have little to no bloatware on the EU versions and even then this is a one time solution, delete the bloatware.
At the end of the day its ONLY a phone. There are far more important things in life than this.
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Yes, year to year I read about unveiled best and a lot of better from year old flagship.
And after few months opinion/ reviews about disadvantages and even features which previous model had better. For example low durability frame S22 series, worse speaker quality compare to S20 series.

cfds said:
For all of you counting the S23U to be the perfect phone...did they not told us that the S22U was the best of the best?
Like the SD8Gen2 will solve all your problems...
I have both the S21U and S22U with the Exynos chip and both are running fine, no overheating, no lags or stutters.
From what I have read so far is that Android 13 with One UI 5.0 has improved a lot on both the S21 and S22. I had no complaints on Android 12 and have no complaints on the latest software.
Battery life...I can't complain but then I don't have any of the social media apps on my phone which seems to be using a lot of battery.
We have little to no bloatware on the EU versions and even then this is a one time solution, delete the bloatware.
At the end of the day its ONLY a phone. There are far more important things in life than this.
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Actually yeah, it will solve a lot, the performance will actually be worth the price tag itself, which as a heavy user I actually do need, it'll solve a lot of battery drain thanks to not being an absolute power munching ****show chipset like the current exynos, oh and I'll actually be able to get decent and stable fps with graphics maxed without the phone turning into an oven. Now lets not forget other things like photography and other stuff like that s22 ultra was a flop either way, but exynos took the cherry on the top.

Question Swapping my S22U to Pixel 7 Pro, final decision

We are a month before the s23u unveiling , I can still sell my s22u at 800ish $ but in a month it will start to loose resale value, so I am very tempted to switch to the Pixel 7 Pro
After a whole year with the s21u and 8 months with the s22u, I am bored and annoyed by samsung oneui, so I don't see myself another year with it.
The Oneplus 11 is just...average with a meh 2x zoom and nothing new as added value in the software and betting on a 11 Ultra is like betting on the lotery.
Xiaomi you will say? Well we don't have the Pro or Ultra series in my country (Lebanon) only the cheap ones and the UI is not sexy
The Pixel 7 Pro in another hand looks like a winner to me and is available in regular shops as we can't buy it online from Google, it's 1020$ for the 256gb model.
So here's the conclusion I got from reading reviews and videos, if I am wrong please let me know, or if you have additional point to add from your experience:
Advantages Pixel 7 Pro over the S22U:
-Rounded corners, more ergonomic
-Lighter by 17gm (I am pretty sure you can feel them on a smartphone) and 20gm with a s23u
-Rootable without the culprit of knox
-More responsive UI , what I HATE with samsung UI for the last 6 years is that you can't open anything as log as there is a micro scrolling animation, you end up tapping twice or 3 time to open an app or settings
-5x optical zoom is more useful than 10x in everyday life, at least for me, and the 2x hybrid zoom looks pretty sharp
-Speakers are louder and crisper
-Several new AI stuff, some gimmicky and other useful
-Tap tap on the back to launch an app
What I will loose:
-The slightly bigger screen size
-Shortcuts in the lockscreen
-Faster charging time, it takes about 50 mins to recharge from 30 to 100% on my s22u, how long your P7P takes?
-2 nano sim cards tray. I will have to transform my actual line to esim to let a place for a temporary sim card when traveling with the P7P
My questions:
-Can you use tap on the back while the screen is off, sort of replacing the missing shortcuts in the lockscreen? I use the torch light everyday
-Can you simply install a third party lockscreen or you will need a custom rom?
-Actual custom roms have the new AI stuff introduced on the P7 series?

vegetaleb said:
My questions:
-Can you use tap on the back while the screen is off, sort of replacing the missing shortcuts in the lockscreen? I use the torch light everyday
-Can you simply install a third party lockscreen or you will need a custom rom?
-Actual custom roms have the new AI stuff introduced on the P7 series?
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Yes
There is really no need for custom ROMS anymore
See above

Having used both the S22 Ultra and Pixel 7 Pro, I'd wait for the S23 Ultra, or even the Pixel 8 Pro. The S22 Ultra is simply the superior phone. The screen is way better (more vibrant, bright, and crisp), the scrolling is smoother (see the P7P scrolling issue), the battery life, charging speeds are better, and the reception / data speeds are better. Heck, using a series of mods, one can make the S22U UI look 95% like the Pixel UI without root.

Guyinlaca said:
Having used both the S22 Ultra and Pixel 7 Pro, I'd wait for the S23 Ultra, or even the Pixel 8 Pro. The S22 Ultra is simply the superior phone. The screen is way better (more vibrant, bright, and crisp), the scrolling is smoother (see the P7P scrolling issue), the battery life, charging speeds are better, and the reception / data speeds are better. Heck, using a series of mods, one can make the S22U UI look 95% like the Pixel UI without root.
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I agree. I've had both the S22 Ultra since launch. I could get a Pixel 7 Pro through work for cheap (about <$200), and I've been using it since October. It's not a bad phone by any means, but overall I prefer the S22 Ultra. Better build quality, better screen, better battery life, better performance. Better, smoother overall experience (and I don't even use the stylus at all). I do like the faster shutter time of the P7P camera, though, so it's easier to capture moving objects.
I have deliberately hung on to my S22 Ultra. Samsung's Unpacked event is scheduled for February 1, when they will undoubtedly announce their S23 series. Assuming they will have similar trade-in deals as with the S22 Ultra last year (I ended up paying about $200 for my S22 Ultra with a trade-in of my S21 Ultra, with free $100 accessory credit to boot), I'm planning to take advantage of that and then sell my Pixel 7 Pro. I should easily come out ahead with that, with money left in my pocket. And even if I decide to keep my Pixel Pro 7, I can sell a brand-new S23 Ultra for a lot more than what I can get for my current S22 Ultra. Last year you got a $1,000 trade-in credit for the previous year's S21 Ultra. I would expect it should be similar this year, which should bring down the price for the S23 Ultra with S22 Ultra trade-in to $300 or so. And they might even throw in other incentives, such as accessory credit or a free watch.
You mention you could sell your S22 Ultra for $800 or so today. I highly doubt that. I'd be happy to get $600 for it, particularly with all the S22 Ultra discounts out there now to clear stock before the S23 Ultra launch.
Either way, it's a win-win for me, and I'll end up with a couple of hundred dollars in my pocket.
Good luck!
--Ron

pixel 7 pro best decission overALL

I am not in the US to get the good prices of the samsung trade in and besides I am tired of sammy UI, I don't see myself using a Samsung another year.
Though the screen image quality and charging time are the only 2 things that are not letting me swap my s22u with the Pixel easily.
I can cope with the slower charging time but what about the screen that you like it much more than the 7 Pro ? Is it because it's more saturated ? I found the vivid mode too vivid and the normal one too bleach , that's why I use the Cinema mode which is hidden and can't be selected but by an adb command, this mode made the saturation right in the middle between normal and vivid, is the Pixel 7 Pro somehow just less saturated than the S22U vivid mode?