Question Continuous heart rate on google play watch faces - Samsung Galaxy Watch 4

Hi,
I've only just got my GW4 (after upgrading from the original GW). One thing i noticed is that although i have heart rate set to "Measure continuously", it doesn't seem to work on watch faces i downloaded from the play store. On those faces it rarely seems to update and i often have to press the icon on the face to get it to update manually. This used to work on the original Tizen GW. Is this a bug or deliberate? Is there any workaround ?

Hello,
From what I have read, watch faces has its own method for reading the HR, who is not correlated with the Samsung Health HR setting.
Creators can set the update interval and normally they put an interaction to manually trigger the measurement.
I never work with watch faces, but I think it's possible to create one with a lower interval period.

This is a question that I also had because all of the watch faces that arent from Samsung has this annoying issue and the other watch faces from Samsung aren't even available which sucks. I thought someone would have been able to create some work around since it was based on android now.

I am using the I-Digit watch face and continuous monitor works on it, but you have to have the AOD enabled. The setup app told me this, so I turned it on and it works just fine. You mite try that on the watch face you are trying.

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Tizen Ambient Mode - NOT GOOD - Android Wear is Exactly the same just dimmer

I just got the Gear S2 - I've been using the LG Urbane and wanted to try Tizen.
One thing I've noticed is that on the Urbane and Android wear - the Ambient mode is the exact same as the active mode - just a bit dimmer but looks the exact same at all times.
I can't seem to find very many faces through Tizen with anything other that two black and white hands in ambient mode or just a basic look.
Is there an issue with Tizen not being able to offer this ?
I want my watch face to be seen by other people looking down at my watch when I don't know they're looking.
I don't want the face to be shown just when I lift my arm - I want the look always.
This "always on" option will also make developers created faces then seen by others with the same watch in passing and they'll ask what that watch face is leading to potentially more purchases and downloads. -- grass roots marketing
I love the watch so far, but the lack of ambient mode looking just like active mode is about a deal breaker for me.
Any thoughts or suggestions here, before I return it and stick with my Urbane and having the watch face I choose always on ?
I've only been able to find about six (6) faces that have a similar look to the active mode when in ambient and it's still no where near as good as Android Wear's look with the Ambient mode option.
The Tizen ambient is only similar -
With all the face options to choose from when we decide on one for the day as watch owners - we want the face to be there always not just when I lift my wrist - I want to show off the look I decided to use.
This bother anyone else ?
jabakerman said:
I just got the Gear S2 - I've been using the LG Urbane and wanted to try Tizen.
One thing I've noticed is that on the Urbane and Android wear - the Ambient mode is the exact same as the active mode - just a bit dimmer but looks the exact same at all times.
I can't seem to find very many faces through Tizen with anything other that two black and white hands in ambient mode or just a basic look.
Is there an issue with Tizen not being able to offer this ?
I want my watch face to be seen by other people looking down at my watch when I don't know they're looking.
I don't want the face to be shown just when I lift my arm - I want the look always.
This "always on" option will also make developers created faces then seen by others with the same watch in passing and they'll ask what that watch face is leading to potentially more purchases and downloads. -- grass roots marketing
I love the watch so far, but the lack of ambient mode looking just like active mode is about a deal breaker for me.
Any thoughts or suggestions here, before I return it and stick with my Urbane and having the watch face I choose always on ?
I've only been able to find about six (6) faces that have a similar look to the active mode when in ambient and it's still no where near as good as Android Wear's look with the Ambient mode option.
The Tizen ambient is only similar -
With all the face options to choose from when we decide on one for the day as watch owners - we want the face to be there always not just when I lift my wrist - I want to show off the look I decided to use.
This bother anyone else ?
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There are several reasons for this. 1) Battery life. By reducing colors and the number of pixels that are activitated, it allows the watch to go several days without charge. 2) OLED burn in. OLED displays will "burn in" if pixels activated too long.
However, there are several options one is the "Alive" app on the Gear store. Install this and your watch never goes into ambient mode. Free app. Problem solved. However, you will have shorter battery life. YMMV.
Rob
jabakerman said:
One thing I've noticed is that on the Urbane and Android wear - the Ambient mode is the exact same as the active mode - just a bit dimmer but looks the exact same at all times.
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Not true, maybe an exception on your face, very very very.... few face has same dim mode than active mode on Wear. Worse, for example on LG-R Dim mode brightness has no setup and most time dim mode is brighter than active mode, so totally grazy
OP, check this thread for Gear S2 watchfaces that have more than the basic ambient mode...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=63804290
jabakerman said:
I just got the Gear S2 - I've been using the LG Urbane and wanted to try Tizen.
One thing I've noticed is that on the Urbane and Android wear - the Ambient mode is the exact same as the active mode - just a bit dimmer but looks the exact same at all times.
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This is incorrect.
Ambient mode on both platforms is a part of the watchface design -- it has as much, or as little detail as the designer put in it.
There are plenty of Wear faces that reduce to simple 2 B/W hands in ambient. Try the Bang & Olufsen watch face, for example.
For the time you would spend sorting through the Samsung store to find a good ambient face, you could create your own with Gear Watch Designer. That way you could include pretty much whatever you want in the ambient face.
Ambient mode seems to use a lot of battery. Mine drops from 100% to about 30% in 16 hours on ambient mode, making nightly recharging a must. And, I'm not a power user.
Zelmo88 said:
Ambient mode seems to use a lot of battery. Mine drops from 100% to about 30% in 16 hours on ambient mode, making nightly recharging a must. And, I'm not a power user.
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I have a very intricate ambient mode and I have it always on, and I get 2 days on a full charge. I only have bluetooth on. I do not have WiFi on. If you have WiFi on, or if you have a 3G, that's what's eating your battery.
Rob
rlichtefeld said:
I have a very intricate ambient mode and I have it always on, and I get 2 days on a full charge. I only have bluetooth on. I do not have WiFi on. If you have WiFi on, or if you have a 3G, that's what's eating your battery.
Rob
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I'm only using bluetooth, no WiFi, and I don't have a 3G version.

Can't get my Faces from "Gear Watch Designer" to my Gear S3. - new and old stuff

Can't get my Faces from "Gear Watch Designer" to my Gear S3. - new and old stuff
Hi
After the update I can't send watchfaces from "Gear Watch Designer 1.3.2_beta build 170410 to my watch.
I first create a new watch face, and get this error "Current OPR (on Pixel Ratio) of the Always-on state is too high. This .. ( se attach picture.)
The attach picture popup, and the Watch Face don't be send to my Watch.
I restart the software and the watch, and open one of my old Watch Face, I know is OK, but I still get this messages:
How do I fix this problem ?
stonefox said:
Hi
After the update I can't send watchfaces from "Gear Watch Designer 1.3.2_beta build 170410 to my watch.
I first create a new watch face, and get this error "Current OPR (on Pixel Ratio) of the Always-on state is too high. This .. ( se attach picture.)
The attach picture popup, and the Watch Face don't be send to my Watch.
I restart the software and the watch, and open one of my old Watch Face, I know is OK, but I still get this messages:
How do I fix this problem ?
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This means you have used high resolution images/graphics that could drain your battery quicker. Samsung gives allowable OPR upto 15%. To disable this warning and go ahead with high-resolution watchfaces, you can remove Always-on state features from your design before building it in Gear Watch Designer under Project>>Always-on state by disabling:
High color
Low-bit color
When you removed these options, default Always-on mode would be provided.
And during build, Gear Watch Designer would issue a warning for NOT generating Always-on state watch face. When asked whether to generate them, simply hit "NO". Your watch face can now be built and pushed into your Gear S3! Enjoy!!

Gear sport persistent heart rate warning

I'm loving my new gear sport especially with the look, speed of operation and battery life for a full colour display due thanks to Tizen ecosystem. I have been looking for ages for some way to have an alarm when my heart rate goes over say 150bpm. I would like it to be persistent until my heart rate drops below that level again. I did find an app called heartby which does pretty much just what I want except for when the screen times out and it no longer sends me alarms. I have tried to contact the developer, but haven't had a reply yet. I understand that the watch isn't meant to be relied on for any medical condition and don't have a heart condition but this would really help me out. Does anybody know of an app which I could use or a system setting that might achieve this. At the moment I use the other workout option in samsung health. I Just changed my age to an age which will give me the maximum heart rate I want as the zones can't be manually set up but it isn't persistent.
After a long period of time, researching all over the internet & talking to Samsung, I now finally have an app that gives me a warning when my heart rate goes over a set amount. I can program the notification value, vibration intensity & amount of vibrations using the gear watch without having to be connected to anything else.
"Heart Rate Graphic" by Igor Cherneyshov is well worth installing on your gear watch. It's even free. If you want heart rate notification, install this app. Been looking since December for this basic feature.
Thx for your answer Fipoly, i am looking for an app measuring low or irregular heart rate, alarming - messaging/calling contacts/assistance....
I use the SOS feature where you press the bottum button x3 with a 5sec countdown. Don't think you'll find an automatic way of doing it. You can user Monitor by appyhapps for low HR but nothing for irregular as the watch isn't accurate enough.
I'm finding HR graphics is chewing up my battery since the tizen 4.0.0.2 update. Hoping for a fix soon.
I need a vibration warning when my heart rate goes over a specified rate. Can you let me know if you find something.
I just found this app and going to try it out. Unfortunately it costs around $1 but don't mind paying for an app that does what we want. I will update this after I've tried it for a while.
HR monitor plus
By Roger van Hout
Unfortunately the app only works while the screen is on with it displayed. It stops monitoring HR when screen is off or app is in background.
Have contacted designers, but no one has emailed me back at this stage
After time, somehow the heart rate graphic app is now working better on my watch. There was no update of the watch or the app but somehow is gone back to the battery usage I used to get. It's a stand alone app on the watch so should and does use less power than others I've tried. I love the customisable amount of vibrations that you get as you know without doubt that your heart rate is too high and will repeat until your heart rate is back to an acceptable value. The only downfall is it doesn't have a minimum heart rate warning but the more I think about it, I realise that I don't really need it myself.
I was able to get a full day out of the watch with the heart rate graphic running. Still don't know why I only got a few hours with the same phone settings and apps running before, so hopefully the problem doesn't come back.
I only bought the watch originally to get a warning when I went tachycardic without having a non watch looking monitor on my wrist or having to wear a chest strap, so was so frustrated until I found heart rate graphic.

Erratic HR monitoring during workouts

Wondering if anyone else is facing this. My Gear S3 Frontier's HR monitor works perfectly alright in normal circumstances ( I have it set to always-on).
However, when I record a workout manually with S Health (mostly runs or rides), the heart rate recorded is very erratic. The watch would record the HR maybe 10 times during a 1.5 to 2 hours workout. That's it. Wondering if anyone else has had this issue, and how they solved it.
Some more info:
- I have the latest software for Frontier
- I have tried several times with and without a phone
- I have reset the watch multiple times
- I have also tried using third party apps like Gear Tracker, and Sporty Watch. The HRM works well in these cases, but the watch frequently freezes/reboots if I get a call or when I try to switch tracks on Music.
Attaching an example screenshot of a ride to show what I mean.

Question Anyone care to comment on the Sleep Tracking and BP/ECG?

I am looking at purchasing the UK version with BP and ECG and currently have a A52 phone to work with it.
I currently use a Fitbit Charge 4 but really need a device with ECG. Anyone coming from a Fitbit or Garmin or other device with good sleep tracking care to comment on how close the GW4 compares? From the reviews and comments under the reviews it looks like there might be some bad batches of GW4's out there in the wild that are not performing as good as some others?
The sleep tracking on GW4 (same as in previous models like GW3 etc) is Not good. It mainly misses most the deep sleep cycle. I've also had Fitbit before and it seemed better. The best sleep tracker is the Oura ring which I also use and sometime compare with the GW4, which again fails to track deep sleep
stakoz said:
The best sleep tracker is the Oura ring which I also use and sometime compare with the GW4, which again fails to track deep sleep
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Try using Sleep as Android (works with both Tizen and WearOS). Not sure if they've optimized for GW4 yet, but I find Sleep as Android very comparable to Oura - deep sleep metrics are a very inexact science, but agree Samsung watch algorithms do that poorly.
The other nice thing about Sleep as Android is it also graphs SpO2 (again, not sure they've added support for GW4 yet) and HRV. So the only metric missing from that equation is temperature (which can be very useful) that Oura does do.
I am using a beta version of sleep as android created especially for GW4 support. You can check if the update is live yet or also join their beta program.
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for anyone who is interested:
Samsung Watch 4
Hello @sonofanut, I think you are right. Google did just removed the Sleep as Android Wear OS app from the Play Store… This is part of their “rising the quality bar” initiative. The reason in the notice is we are not showing the the time of the next alarm on the tracking screen… The reason for...
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Hi I've the galaxy watch 4 classic, I've the heart and stress on continuous, but sometimes the green light on the back doesn't flash at all, is that normal??Hi I've the galaxy watch 4 classic, I've the heart and stress on continuous, but sometimes the green light on the back doesn't flash at all, is that normal??
Darbar1701 said:
Hi I've the galaxy watch 4 classic, I've the heart and stress on continuous, but sometimes the green light on the back doesn't flash at all, is that normal??Hi I've the galaxy watch 4 classic, I've the heart and stress on continuous, but sometimes the green light on the back doesn't flash at all, is that normal??
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You might want to start a thread if you are having issues as you will defiantly get more responses.
Anyone check if the sleep tracking has improved any with the latest firmware/software updates to the GW4?
Also is anyone using the ECG feature? That is one of the main features I need as I have heart palpitations on a regular bases but of course whenever I go the doctors it never occurs so its not something they can ever see on a machine and would like to try and catch it on the GW4 when I have an episode to see what it is actually doing.

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