Since the EE Galaxy S6 firmware upgrade to 5.1.1 I have not been able to install (or update) apps from "unknown sources".
I don't use the Play store at all - I use F-Droid - so this means I cannot use F-Droid as a package management tool!
The "allow unknown sources" setting still exists and is enabled, but all installs or updates just hang after confirming the requested permissions...
Has anyone else noticed this problem, or might know of a way to rectify this situation?
Thanks
im on the same firmware and have had no issues installing unkown sources so it should be working
I have indeed made the assumption that the firmware upgrade is the root cause of this problem ... could the upgrade be a pure co-incidence? Stranger things have happened!
I have no idea what else could be causing this, though.
geebotron said:
I have indeed made the assumption that the firmware upgrade is the root cause of this problem ... could the upgrade be a pure co-incidence? Stranger things have happened!
I have no idea what else could be causing this, though.
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I have finally got to the root of this! IT's a little obscure but I will document it here in case it helps anyone else.
Being an F-Droid user and not having a google account on my android phone I had disabled the Google Play Store app. Quite reasonably I thought, as not having a Google account means it isn't possible to use the Play store.
BUT ... when you set the flag to allow "non-market applications" (as you must to use F-Droid) whenever you install a (non-market) app a nag dialog box would pop up asking if I wanted Google to check the validity of these apps. If you choose "decline" the nag box appears on the next installation. Only if you accept does the nag box leave you alone.
I had previously caved in and allowed google to check the apps (annoyingly there was no "decline and never ask me again" option on the nag screen). After this, I had disabled the Play Store.
After the upgrade presumably the Play store stayed in a disabled state but the nag flag seemed to be reset.
So it wanted to nag me but the app that did the nagging was disabled, so it just hung at that point in the installation.
Re-enabling the Play Store allowed the nag screen again and thus the installation completed. :good:
it was installed without my permission there is no app it seems but if you type covid-19 in search it may pop up on some people phones in the uk not sure when or how it got installed and cant seem to remove it from my device yet was wondering if anyone can figure out how to
opjuice said:
it was installed without my permission there is no app it seems but if you type covid-19 in search it may pop up on some people phones in the uk not sure when or how it got installed and cant seem to remove it from my device yet was wondering if anyone can figure out how to
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It's linked to Google play services, But my understanding it is just the API service and does nothing without a covid tracker app so it should be save to keep it unless someone can chime in with more info.
The only way to get rid of it is to delete Google Play Services. That's how they snuck it in. On Android Pie it's simple. Just debloat via ADB using pm list packages prompt and voila! it's gone. On Android 10 it works the same EXCEPT none of the google apps, firefox, instacart, or anything like that will WORK. So you can de-google all you want - they've baked it into everything. It's something I'm struggling with now since I was forced to upgrade.
Google pay is supported in my country. (Romania)
I installed the app on the watch from the appstore, added the card , confirmed it through the bank. All fine.
Problem is that when I open the google pay app, it asks it to be set as default then redirects me to a menu to enable NFC, and there is only Samsung pay available there.
I searched a lot for this. A lot of people reported this error. Any solution to fix it ?
Sorry if this has been already discussed. I just couldnt find anything. Hence .. this post.
Many thanks,
Samsung locked it down
no way to make it work anymore ?
Yeah same on my device too.
I also tried uninstalling samsung pay through adb.
Google pay still doesnt appear. anybody finds a solution please post it here.
Might be an error with the current watch softawre (DOJA) in my case. Lets see if future updates solves it. But i doubt it.
Dont know why samsung insists on their software since its not supported here. Lets see them also allow google assistant as well so we can take full experience on this wearos watch.
Anybody finds any solution to google pay to reappear on default apps please post here.
Have a read through this post. I've done it on mine and now when I long press the bottom button G Pay opens instead of Samsung Pay.
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i managed to sideload the google pay app and managed to configure it however whenever i reboot the watch the icon just vanishes . can you kindly advices if there is any workaround it please ?
i doubt the gpay works if its not selected as default payment app
I am facing the exact same issue. Google Pay is supported in my region but when I open the app it asks me to make it default for payments. In the NFC settings I only see the Samsung Pay app. I also uninstalled Samsung Pay through adb but GPay still asks to make it default and it is not opening.
I guess it has to do with the region the firmware was designed for (Samsung Pay is not supported here). Not sure if I can return the watch based on the fact that they sell it here with a firmware that is meant to work on another region.
I'm having this problem ever since purchasing this phone, and it's really annoying. Sometimes I find out some games or apps I purchased from Google Play appear with the price tag, like if I never purchased them before. This happens also with subscriptions, I think is something about Xiaomi and Google maybe? The only solution I have found is clearing data/cache from Google services, framework and Google Play, then removing my Google account, restart the device and the sign in again with my account in Google. But doing this like every two weeks is frustrating sometimes it happen more often and I don't know what to do. I have the global version (MI) installed can someone please help? Does anyone have this issue as well? Thanks.
I got tired of the problems with Playstore paid apps and avoid them whenever possible and buy to app directly from the developer* if possible.
It's to the point now that I package and firewall block Playstore. Once a paid app is activated many times this and firewall blocking the app stops annoying "Do you wish to upgrade" etc bs.
Lol, I have Samsung Androids and similar issues. It's more like Playwhore...
*Google's pay protection is a sick joke. Just do a charge back on the card if you must. Most developers though provide good support. I haven't had issues outside of Playstore.
$5 is chump change but the time wasted trying to bring Playstore in line is far more costly!!!
Hmm, I have made purchases while being on MIUI 12.5 and MIUI 12.5 (EU) (debloated) . I had no issues with single/subscription purchases.
Are you sure you did not end up disabling some necessary background service from Google or Xiaomi?
Maybe a hard reset or switching to a debloated version of MIUI might help but this sounds more like a particular service not functioning properly.
Device doesn't meet security requirements
Is your device rooted or do you have adb enabled? If the device is rooted you need to do some things to hide it. If your device is not rooted, maybe check to make sure adb is disabled.
Like the comment above says, if you're rooted with Magisk, install this and it should start working fine after wiping the app.
Releases · Displax/safetynet-fix
Google SafetyNet attestation workarounds for Magisk - Displax/safetynet-fix
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Adding on to this just because it's about Google Wallet...
What's the point of Google Wallet when there's Google Pay? The Pixel 7 setup kinda tried to make you download Wallet instead of Pay. Isn't Wallet just a piece of Pay that they took out?
Curiousn00b said:
Like the comment above says, if you're rooted with Magisk, install this and it should start working fine after wiping the app.
Releases · Displax/safetynet-fix
Google SafetyNet attestation workarounds for Magisk - Displax/safetynet-fix
github.com
Adding on to this just because it's about Google Wallet...
What's the point of Google Wallet when there's Google Pay? The Pixel 7 setup kinda tried to make you download Wallet instead of Pay. Isn't Wallet just a piece of Pay that they took out?
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Wallet is the successor to Pay. They just haven't removed the old app
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Is your device rooted or do you have adb enabled? If the device is rooted you need to do some things to hide it. If your device is not rooted, maybe check to make sure adb is disabled.
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I am currently rooted I am able to pass safety net I also have hide google wallet in magisk
highgrade said:
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Is this when you're trying to pay with Wallet or just setting up the app?
If it's while trying to pay, it might be because you unlocked your phone via face unlock before paying. You might have to unlock with the fingerprint scanner to make sure it works.
Might not be your issue here and I hate to say it but man, the fact that this is an issue at all makes me mad, for any regular user such an error would make absolutely no sense, and you would never understand it unless someone tells you.
highgrade said:
I am currently rooted I am able to pass safety net I also have hide google wallet in magisk
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I am rooted and wallet is working. Here is how I have set mine up:
Magisk installed:
Zygisk enabled
Enforce Denylist enabled
Denylist blocking: Wallet, Pay, Google Play Services, and some other banking apps.
Install the Safetynet Fix module from this post: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/magisk-module-universal-safetynet-fix-2-3-1.4217823/post-87198517
Then install the MagiskHidePropsConfig module. (No need to configure it).
Force quit Wallet and wipe its data.
For quite and wiped data for Google Play Services.
Reboot
Then added card.
Those were the only modules that I needed. Maybe disable anything else you don't need while doing this in case they conflict.
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Wallet is the successor to Pay. They just haven't removed the old app
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I think Pay has transitioned to being an app to send money to friends/family/etc like Venmo. I haven't used it since its split with Wallet, though.
Curiousn00b said:
What's the point of Google Wallet when there's Google Pay? The Pixel 7 setup kinda tried to make you download Wallet instead of Pay. Isn't Wallet just a piece of Pay that they took out?
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Wallet is the successor to Pay. They just haven't removed the old app
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As I understand it, Wallet holds all your "cards" like loyalty cards, gift cards, and transportation passes (metro, train, bus) -- hence "wallet" -- while GPay handles the credit cards for transactions for in-store/shops.
I guess Wallet is the app while GPay might be classified as the process...
Also...
synesthete said:
I think Pay has transitioned to being an app to send money to friends/family/etc like Venmo. I haven't used it since its split with Wallet, though.
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Yes I noticed that GPay is transitioning to be like Venmo. I haven't used GPay in a long time, but since setting it up on my P7P, it was pushing hard to set things up so I could "easily send/receive payments to my family & friends" (like Venmo, i imagine...)...
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As I understand it, Wallet holds all your "cards" like loyalty cards, gift cards, and transportation passes (metro, train, bus) -- hence "wallet" -- while GPay handles the credit cards for transactions for in-store/shops.
I guess Wallet is the app while GPay might be classified as the process...
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Just an FYI, but Wallet is just a part of GPay. What @Curiousn00b had said earlier in this thread is correct. GPay can do everything that Google Wallet does - and more. So therefore, GPay can handle credit cards, debit cards, gift cards, loyalty cards, transit passes, tickets, etc.
The reason why Google has released the Google Wallet app - an app specifically for adding your payment cards, transit cards, loyalty cards, etc - is because a large swarm of people were complaining about GPay being too difficult to use (as the newer features were seemingly confusing to the less tech-knowledgeable folks - which is still around 75-80% of the global population). Google had announced this publicly on a blog post around 1-2 years ago.
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Post #2 - Unlocking Bootloader / Rooting / Updating | SafetyNet | ADB/Fastboot & Windows USB Drivers:
SafetyNet
Hello,
I have a successfully rooted Pixel 7 and the November update.
Magisk modules:
AOSP Mods (Full version)
Call Recorder - SKVALEX
Systemless Hosts
Universal safety Net fix
Zygisk - LSPosed
DenyList contains enabled:
Google Wallet
Google Play Protect service
com.android.systemui.plugin.globalactions.wallet
Play Integrity API Checker
Everything was fine until now, but when I open Wallet today, I get the following information:
"Device doesn't meet security
requirements You can't tap to pay with this device. It may be rooted or running uncertified software. Contact your device manufacturer or visit Google Wallet Help for more info."
My cards were not removed, it seems that the wallet is functional, but this information worries me. This information is not displayed every time when the wallet application is turned on. Everything else works for me (banks, netflix...), I go through safetynet.
I have one more question.
I don't know exactly how these things work...
How about the safetynet? Could it happen that one day GooglePay and Bank apps will stop working for me without an OS update or some other magisk module installation??
If it works for me now, and I don't do an OS update, will it still work for me?
I ask because these applications are very important for my daily work and I can't afford to be surprised by a malfunction at an inopportune moment due to root.
Thank you very much!
efkosk said:
Hello,
I have a successfully rooted Pixel 7 and the November update.
Magisk modules:
AOSP Mods (Full version)
Call Recorder - SKVALEX
Systemless Hosts
Universal safety Net fix
Zygisk - LSPosed
DenyList contains enabled:
Google Wallet
Google Play Protect service
com.android.systemui.plugin.globalactions.wallet
Play Integrity API Checker
Everything was fine until now, but when I open Wallet today, I get the following information:
"Device doesn't meet security
requirements You can't tap to pay with this device. It may be rooted or running uncertified software. Contact your device manufacturer or visit Google Wallet Help for more info."
My cards were not removed, it seems that the wallet is functional, but this information worries me. This information is not displayed every time when the wallet application is turned on. Everything else works for me (banks, netflix...), I go through safetynet.
I have one more question.
I don't know exactly how these things work...
How about the safetynet? Could it happen that one day GooglePay and Bank apps will stop working for me without an OS update or some other magisk module installation??
If it works for me now, and I don't do an OS update, will it still work for me?
I ask because these applications are very important for my daily work and I can't afford to be surprised by a malfunction at an inopportune moment due to root.
Thank you very much!
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I have Play Store, GPay, and Google Wallet on the DenyList and don't have this error.
And yes, Google can easily decide one day to bypass the DenyList or force hardware attestation at which point you would have to choose between your apps and root. It's been a whack a mole game for awhile now and that's just expected to become worse.
EtherealRemnant said:
I have Play Store, GPay, and Google Wallet on the DenyList and don't have this error.
And yes, Google can easily decide one day to bypass the DenyList or force hardware attestation at which point you would have to choose between your apps and root. It's been a whack a mole game for awhile now and that's just expected to become worse.
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Thanks!
In the meantime, I cleaned the google play cache storage, added the cards again. I haven't received a bad notification yet
Do I understand correctly that at any time without any action on my part (update app, updateOS) my bank apps, gpay can stop working due to root?
efkosk said:
Thanks!
In the meantime, I cleaned the google play cache storage, added the cards again. I haven't received a bad notification yet
Do I understand correctly that at any time without any action on my part (update app, updateOS) my bank apps, gpay can stop working due to root?
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If you turn off updates, it's extremely unlikely that it would change, but you're also taking added risk when it comes to exploits and I wouldn't recommend this path.
are we talking about an application or OS update?
If it can stop working for me after the next OS update (via pixelflasher, for example), then that is acceptable for me.
But if it can happen to me after an automatic update of the application via Google Play, it's a problem.
Sorry for possibly stupid questions, I'm trying to understand how it works.
Thank you very much for your help and giving of your time.
efkosk said:
are we talking about an application or OS update?
If it can stop working for me after the next OS update (via pixelflasher, for example), then that is acceptable for me.
But if it can happen to me after an automatic update of the application via Google Play, it's a problem.
Sorry for possibly stupid questions, I'm trying to understand how it works.
Thank you very much for your help and giving of your time.
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Either can happen. There are ways to detect root that get past our attempts to hide it as it is so an app update can add further detection easily. Just ask my Security Service Federal Credit Union app that won't even open on a rooted phone no matter what I do.
Can I "quickly unroot" it by uninstalling magisk? Does it wipe my data? I want rooted, but I need planB in a crisis situation.
Thx for your reply!
Users with root are not afraid of the situation that they ask for a bill in a restaurant and Gpay won't work for them?
efkosk said:
Can I "quickly unroot" it by uninstalling magisk? Does it wipe my data? I want rooted, but I need planB in a crisis situation.
Thx for your reply!
Users with root are not afraid of the situation that they ask for a bill in a restaurant and Gpay won't work for them?
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Unfortunately removing root just exposes the unlocked bootloader and GPay won't work with that condition either. It's why I rooted in the first place so I could pass SafetyNet again as Discover is 5% with mobile wallet this quarter.
I carry credit cards with me everywhere I go. It's only recently I've started using tap to pay as it wasn't really available in the Denver area. Even now I can only thing of a couple places that take it - namely the liquor store I go to with my husband lol. Interestingly I went to Dollar Tree yesterday and they have added it.
So if I want to unroot, I will lose data, because after re-locking the bootloader, the data is wiped. I'm right?
efkosk said:
So if I want to unroot, I will lose data, because after re-locking the bootloader, the data is wiped. I'm right?
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Correct. Honestly I wouldn't say you're at immediate risk of having an issue and that dumping root and all that just for a remote possibility isn't worth it.
You can also turn off automatic app updates for the individual apps in the Play Store. As long as you leave automatic updates on for the rest of your apps, the ones you disable individually will just be sitting there showing updates and you can choose to update them when you're ready.