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Esim experience.

Hello,
I attempted to activate esim on t-mobile postpaid that did not go anywhere even though others have activated esim on pixel 3 before the t-mobile ban on postpaid accounts. T-mobile has stopped enabling esim on postpaid accounts for unknown reasons. It only enables esim on certain prepaid accounts and only on iphones.
Any other experiences with t-mobile or other carriers?

Confirmed working on Fi.

alphahere said:
Hello,
I attempted to activate esim on t-mobile postpaid that did not go anywhere even though others have activated esim on pixel 3 before the t-mobile ban on postpaid accounts. T-mobile has stopped enabling esim on postpaid accounts for unknown reasons. It only enables esim on certain prepaid accounts and only on iphones.
Any other experiences with t-mobile or other carriers?
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T-Mobile requires you use there app for esim. The iPhone is the only one that supports it at the Momment

I have T-Mobile and I was able to get the eSim activated on the 3a Xl . All I did was tell them I wanted to do a sim card swap and I provided the EID number. Took them a few minutes and they were done. BTW this was on a Postpaid account.

Demonface.24 said:
I have T-Mobile and I was able to get the eSim activated on the 3a Xl . All I did was tell them I wanted to do a sim card swap and I provided the EID number. Took them a few minutes and they were done. BTW this was on a Postpaid account.
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Phone call or chat? I had no luck with chat.
Did you use the full esim number - that is a very long number. Trying to duplicate your effort.
Thanks

alphahere said:
Hello,
I attempted to activate esim on t-mobile postpaid that did not go anywhere even though others have activated esim on pixel 3 before the t-mobile ban on postpaid accounts. T-mobile has stopped enabling esim on postpaid accounts for unknown reasons. It only enables esim on certain prepaid accounts and only on iphones.
Any other experiences with t-mobile or other carriers?
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called t-mobile and gave them the full esim number. Then uses this guide. Works great!
https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/comments/a4507u/esim_works_heres_how_to_activate/

I got it activated on my Pixel 3a XL through chat. They asked me why I was changing sims, and I just told them I wanted to try out esim. They said ok and did the swap. I'm postpaid.
It's easier through chat because of the long EID number.

reddv1 said:
I got it activated on my Pixel 3a XL through chat. They asked me why I was changing sims, and I just told them I wanted to try out esim. They said ok and did the swap. I'm postpaid.
It's easier through chat because of the long EID number.
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I guess I've had really bad luck because I have not been able to get esim activated with chat twice. That's the way it goes we'll try again. It is hit and miss.

Thanks guys for the information. Did another chat this morning asking for sim activation. Did not mention esim. Completed in about 2 minutes did not even have to reboot my phone. Nice. I can use the physical sim slot for something else now.

alphahere said:
Thanks guys for the information. Did another chat this morning asking for sim activation. Did not mention esim. Completed in about 2 minutes did not even have to reboot my phone. Nice. I can use the physical sim slot for something else now.
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Yep! Throw in a micro sd card! ?????

seniorstew said:
Yep! Throw in a micro sd card! ??
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Generally curious as I am new to the Android side of things. What can you use the SIM slot for if you do esim? What is the benefit outside of saying you don't need a physical SIM?

teegraves58 said:
Generally curious as I am new to the Android side of things. What can you use the SIM slot for if you do esim? What is the benefit outside of saying you don't need a physical SIM?
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I use an ATT MVNO Sim when I am not in a t-mobile area which is rare. I don't need two phones any more. One can do the same for the latest iPhone.
Actually there are other phones that have two sims like one plus, but two sim phones are rare in the USA but common in other countries. It has to do with the carriers. It would really nice if this feature discussed on the link below is included in android Q.
https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/...s-half-baked-dual-sim-support-to-the-pixel-3/
So two sims phones hopefully will become the norm in the USA since iPhone has this option and everyone copies Apple. Anyway I could be wrong but I think the Pixel had the esim before the iPhone.

seniorstew said:
Yep! Throw in a micro sd card! ?????
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That would be nice! Aint going to happen!

I'm self employed and having dual sim is huge for me, no more having to carry two phone is big. This implementation sucks compared to real dual sim where you can have both active but it's still ahead of packing two phones around.

alphahere said:
I use an ATT MVNO Sim when I am not in a t-mobile area which is rare. I don't need two phones any more. One can do the same for the latest iPhone.
Actually there are other phones that have two sims like one plus, but two sim phones are rare in the USA but common in other countries. It has to do with the carriers. It would really nice if this feature discussed on the link below is included in android Q.
https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/...s-half-baked-dual-sim-support-to-the-pixel-3/
So two sims phones hopefully will become the norm in the USA since iPhone has this option and everyone copies Apple. Anyway I could be wrong but I think the Pixel had the esim before the iPhone.
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So at the moment, does your Pixel have DSDS capability? And if not (or before you enabled that functionality), are you at least able to take advantage of the physical sim slot by selecting it under network settings as the preferred option when you want to use the ATT network rather than the esim?
I had been using OnePlus phones with their dual SIM functionality for a long time by always keeping a T-Mobile SIM in one while using my China Mobile SIM in the other during my frequent trips into China. This enables me to keep a local number and avoid the internet censorship that is increasingly prevalent is most areas of the country.

DaveinAsia said:
So at the moment, does your Pixel have DSDS capability? And if not (or before you enabled that functionality), are you at least able to take advantage of the physical sim slot by selecting it under network settings as the preferred option when you want to use the ATT network rather than the esim?
I had been using OnePlus phones with their dual SIM functionality for a long time by always keeping a T-Mobile SIM in one while using my China Mobile SIM in the other during my frequent trips into China. This enables me to keep a local number and avoid the internet censorship that is increasingly prevalent is most areas of the country.
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https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/...s-half-baked-dual-sim-support-to-the-pixel-3/
Also. Currently using dual SIM in China. You will need to do the following to make network work reliable with all apps. This is a problem with pixel phones.
https://www.evil42.com/index.php/archives/17/
I had this problem when I arrived in China. Now everything works great after the above modifications.

alphahere said:
https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/...s-half-baked-dual-sim-support-to-the-pixel-3/
Also. Currently using dual SIM in China. You will need to do the following to make network work reliable with all apps. This is a problem with pixel phones.
https://www.evil42.com/index.php/archives/17/
I had this problem when I arrived in China. Now everything works great after the above modifications.
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Thanks for replying. However, I didn't really get an answer to what I was looking for. I had also previously read the article in Android Police and I know what DSDS is. My previous OnePlus operated as such. The article suggests that DSDS is no longer an option unless you elected it in an earlier beta release. HOWEVER, I only want to know whether you are able to choose one or the other between your eSIM and your physical SIM slot? You will not get both signals at the same time. I understand that. But I'm just interested to see if I can elect via Settings to choose either the eSIM or a separate SIM card and use that one only.
With respect to the contents of the evil42.com article, I fortunately don't have those problems. Thanks for your help.

DaveinAsia said:
Thanks for replying. However, I didn't really get an answer to what I was looking for. I had also previously read the article in Android Police and I know what DSDS is. My previous OnePlus operated as such. The article suggests that DSDS is no longer an option unless you elected it in an earlier beta release. HOWEVER, I only want to know whether you are able to choose one or the other between your eSIM and your physical SIM slot? You will not get both signals at the same time. I understand that. But I'm just interested to see if I can elect via Settings to choose either the eSIM or a separate SIM card and use that one only.
With respect to the contents of the evil42.com article, I fortunately don't have those problems. Thanks for your help.
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Yes you can switch carrier without reboot.

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alphahere said:
Yes you can switch carrier without reboot.
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Thank you for confirming!

Google Pixel 4 Dual SIM Support

Is it the same as Pixel 3a? DSDS? or DSDA as per rumor in Feb https://www.xda-developers.com/google-pixel-4-dual-sim-rumor/ ?
I found this incomplete doc from T-Mobile eSIM settings: Google Pixel 4. It mentioned '10 profile'. Would this a doc copied from iPhone and it is not completed?
https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-41557

louiskkchan said:
Is it the same as Pixel 3a? DSDS? or DSDA as per rumor in Feb https://www.xda-developers.com/google-pixel-4-dual-sim-rumor/ ?
I found this incomplete doc from T-Mobile eSIM settings: Google Pixel 4. It mentioned '10 profile'. Would this a doc copied from iPhone and it is not completed?
https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-41557
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Same as the 3a. That's a very old article when they were talking about DSDS on the P3 which never came to be with one IMEI. As for DSDA here's the quote from the first article which should help clarify it for you. The P4 does not have two radios either.
Lastly, there’s Dual SIM, Dual Active (DSDA), in which both SIM slots can be actively used for calls, texts, or data simultaneously. Although the Pixel 3 doesn’t have the hardware to support DSDA (it lacks a second radio)....

Yes, the Pixel 4 supports DSDS.

How many IMEI provisioned on pixel 3a? Android police have a post showing 2 IMEI labeled on pixel 4 XL retail box.

The 3a has two, it was updated to DSDS in software a little while back.

FWIW, there is an article on Ars about how Google is going to not only support DSDS on the P4s, but actually enable them if you're on Fi (I am).
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/10/google-fi-will-soon-connect-you-to-two-lte-networks-at-once/
I pre-ordered my Flame through Fi, 'financing' it over 2 years, and it arrived today. As soon as I opened it, I popped the instructions, and this is what it says in there:

It works, I activated it with my T-Mobile physical SIM and Project Fi eSIM. I was very excited to finally have this for about 2 hours, then I found out it broke my visual voicemail. WHYYYY GOOGLE WHYYY must you always ruin everything with some bizarre quirk?

mdmogren said:
It works, I activated it with my T-Mobile physical SIM and Project Fi eSIM. I was very excited to finally have this for about 2 hours, then I found out it broke my visual voicemail. WHYYYY GOOGLE WHYYY must you always ruin everything with some bizarre quirk?
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I'll bet it broke RCS too.

Sh...... you're probably right.

It has to do with carrier provisioning. With most dual SIM phones there's an option where you can choose which SIM is used for voice, data and texts. You need to make sure your line with visual voicemail is utilizing the same service for data also. There is same issue with MMS which will hinder any group text capabilities. I have been trying to figure it out for years. Inhave found best use scenario for me is to keep everything on primary line and switch to data on a need only basis with second SIM. Voice and texts will still work with second SIM whenever needed.
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skinnytoo2 said:
It has to do with carrier provisioning. With most dual SIM phones there's an option where you can choose which SIM is used for voice, data and texts. You need to make sure your line with visual voicemail is utilizing the same service for data also. There is same issue with MMS which will hinder any group text capabilities. I have been trying to figure it out for years. Inhave found best use scenario for me is to keep everything on primary line and switch to data on a need only basis with second SIM. Voice and texts will still work with second SIM whenever needed.
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You've had dual SIM phones for years? Which ones, just curious. Were any of them esim?

eSIM is brand new, so never had dual with it. This might actually be the first device with both. I think my first dual SIM was Huawei Mate 8 in 2015.
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skinnytoo2 said:
eSIM is brand new, so never had dual with it. This might actually be the first device with both. I think my first dual SIM was Huawei Mate 8 in 2015.
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Yeah dual physical sim has been around for a while mostly outside the US. I don't use visual VM so I can't attest to that. But dsds breaks RCS no matter how you have it set up under network settings. Very frustrating but that's on my 3a. Hopefully on Thursday that will change with my P4. Not holding out a ton of hope though.

It may *not* break for people like me, who use Fi and will have it provisioned for DSDS using physical SIM as well as eSIM, but both using Fi as the provider.

johnlgalt said:
It may *not* break for people like me, who use Fi and will have it provisioned for DSDS using physical SIM as well as eSIM, but both using Fi as the provider.
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That is entirely possible. But you won't know that for some months yet. In the meantime Fi with Verizon physical is kaput.

bobby janow said:
That is entirely possible. But you won't know that for some months yet. In the meantime Fi with Verizon physical is kaput.
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Wait, so you can't do Verizon physical with Fi esim?

rester555 said:
Wait, so you can't do Verizon physical with Fi esim?
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Pretty sure, and I am also sure someone will correct me if I am wrong, but Verizon branded (bought from Verizon, or anywhere else as a Verizon variant) have the eSIM disabled by Verizon.
Using an unlocked version on the Verizon network should work fine.

rester555 said:
Wait, so you can't do Verizon physical with Fi esim?
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We were talking about RCS at the time, not DSDS. You couldn't get RCS working with Fi and Verizon but now it's been figured out. Sort of. What I have found is that if I change everything over (sms, voice, data) to Fi then reboot I can get RCS with either Fi or Verizon and even change back to Verizon as the defaults. But if I reboot with Vzw as default I lose RCS. I have to go back and redo it all, reboot and then it sticks until the next reboot.
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uicnren said:
Pretty sure, and I am also sure someone will correct me if I am wrong, but Verizon branded (bought from Verizon, or anywhere else as a Verizon variant) have the eSIM disabled by Verizon.
Using an unlocked version on the Verizon network should work fine.
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eSim was disabled on the P3 and the 3a (XL too) on Verizon branded phones. Someone said a P4 / XL Verizon bought phone can use the eSim just not with Verizon. I've not seen actual confirmation of that, only one person. So if anyone bought the P4 / XL from a Verizon store or online please post if eSim is available with another provider.

Well I have bought an unlocked phone from Fi and went to Verizon to get a physical sim and got it working. Loving it so far, but can confirm that the RCS issue works like @bobby janow stated. I can't get it to work with Verizon default after reboot. Has to be fi to get it to work until next reboot.

Can you have a different ringtone for each line/SIM?

Question Issue with 4G on Galaxy Watch 4 Classic, non Samsung phone

I have just received the 4G model through today and tried to connect to my phone to copy the EE plan details over. However it seems it only works with Samsung phones. I have a Pixel 5, is there a workaround anyone knows of?
Many thanks!

Same issue here too but I'm using Oppo. Would have thought that with it being Wear OS over Tizen that the cellular would be opened up to more than just Samsung phones. Very frustrating really.

littleash88 said:
Same issue here too but I'm using Oppo. Would have thought that with it being Wear OS over Tizen that the cellular would be opened up to more than just Samsung phones. Very frustrating really.
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I've ended up returning mine and getting the bluetooth version instead. Only possible workaround I found was someone mentioning was setting up the esim through a compatible Galaxy phone, and then setting up on the non-samsung phone. Not sure if this would work, and sounds like too much hassle!

Christ... cheers for the tip! Might give it a go!

You need to borrow a Samsung phone to do it.
But tbh, it does not work either at this moment.
I think the Watch is too recent and they can't recognize it yet.

I'm going to wait and see if they remove restrictions, if not then I'll wait for another watch.

Just for information, I successfully got eSim working with a Galaxy A40, factory reset without clearing eSim and pairing it with a OnePlus 7T Pro.
French network.

I use the GW4 LTE with my Mi 11 Ultra and eSim is working fine on the watch. Was easy to set up.
Didn't need any Samsung phone at all for the watch.

Mystery1887 said:
I use the GW4 LTE with my Mi 11 Ultra and eSim is working fine on the watch. Was easy to set up.
Didn't need any Samsung phone at all for the watch.
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Was this on EE in the UK? Is this a network specific issue?

bejam said:
Was this on EE in the UK? Is this a network specific issue?
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No, in Germany (Telekom).

meleelord said:
I have just received the 4G model through today and tried to connect to my phone to copy the EE plan details over. However it seems it only works with Samsung phones. I have a Pixel 5, is there a workaround anyone knows of?
Many thanks!
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issue fixed now ?, r u able to use 4G model ?

seb_sebastien23 said:
Just for information, I successfully got eSim working with a Galaxy A40, factory reset without clearing eSim and pairing it with a OnePlus 7T Pro.
French network.
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Factory reset the phone ?

MKOTTP said:
issue fixed now ?, r u able to use 4G model ?
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I returned the watch in the end, it didn't suit the purpose I required it to.

MKOTTP said:
Factory reset the phone ?
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What I did :
Pair with a Samsung phone
Activate eSim
Factory reset the watch
Pair with my OnePlus

seb_sebastien23 said:
What I did :
Pair with a Samsung phone
Activate eSim
Factory reset the watch
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I also used this procedure, I did it with my pixel 5 and it works fine with a Galaxy A51. French network (Orange).
One restriction : VOLTE must be activated with the sim card in Samsung phone, else, GalaxyWear displays error message.

Don't understand this.
I couldn't pair my watch with my Huawei phone, but that was because of the known Huawei block.
I've therefore decided to pair with another of my phones a Motorola.
No issue at all loading a vodafone eSim onto the watch (payg) with the Motorola having a giffgaff sim, also payg.
I only want to use the Vodafone eSim to keep me connected when out of Bluetooth range (apps and txt messages from my phone), and for voice calls I simply forward on when not answered to the Vodafone eSim number.
This way I don't need an expensive contract sim plan and add on watch sim plan.

I just bought the Galaxy watch 4 44mm and LTE activation is done easily with Mi 11x device Jio SIM(India),
I have not faced any issue, I had to wait for 5-10 minutes to open the Jio ESIM activation page to open.
Now it's working perfectly fine.
I have not used any Samsung device for this process

Question 2 physical sims and an esim?

This maybe a dumb question but here goes, I dont have an esim to test myself.
My phone supports 2 physical sims and esim too, but does that mean I can actually run 3 sims? It has 2 emai numbers.

No. That's not how that works. 2 activate at any given time.

N_L said:
This maybe a dumb question but here goes, I dont have an esim to test myself.
My phone supports 2 physical sims and esim too, but does that mean I can actually run 3 sims? It has 2 emai numbers.
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You can have DUAL SIM (2 physical sim) or 1 physical and 1 esim at the same time

Question 2 esim

Can i have two esim in pixel 7 pro?
Any disadvantage in having esim

Yes you can have two eSIM active together within same time.
disadvantage would be if you need to move the sim to other phone. As for the rest, i'd say, eSIM is better than SIM

otonieru said:
Yes you can have two eSIM active together within same time.
disadvantage would be if you need to move the sim to other phone. As for the rest, i'd say, eSIM is better than SIM
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You actually cannot have two eSIMs active at the same time. Only a few of us ever had that capability and we all appear to have had it removed at some point. Now it's a matter of waiting for Google to add the feature but I'm not holding my breath.

otonieru said:
Yes you can have two eSIM active together within same time.
disadvantage would be if you need to move the sim to other phone. As for the rest, i'd say, eSIM is better than SIM
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Thank you so much

I haven't had the best experience so far with my two Sims on my Pixel 7 Pro. Even though I have assigned certain contacts with designated calling SIMs, often times the call is still made with wrong SIM. This is annoying because this ends up giving those contacts my personal number instead of my work number. Both sims are with Verizon, so ideally both should have good service at the same time or bad service at the same time. It would make sense if one sim was with AT&T for example and had no cell service, so the phone would understandably fails over to the other sim to make the call - but I don't see that being the case here.