Hi guys
I consider to buy the s22 ultra but since I want to root the device I wonder if it will disable my OTA updates and triggered Knox.
My main concern is that I will not be able to sell it in the future in to someone else since many Samsung services will disabled and also OTA updates.
Not sure if it's relevant but In my country we have the SD gen 1 model
Yes it will trigger Knox and no more OTA update, no warranty, no more Samsung Pass etc. and resale value will be greatly diminished.
Damm
I hate Samsung for that
Afaik, after OEM unlock and rooting, if you re-lock the bootloader, flash original (properly signed) rom and disable OEM Unlock, you will have OTA without problems. Tested with my unit SM908B and Tab S7+.
Warranty is a bit more complex, because it depends on the local laws. In most European countries, opening an equipment or unlocking a bootloader does not directly void your warranty, as the manufacturer has to prove it was your manipulation what caused the issue. But this varies from country to country.
It is true though that Knox will be triggered irreversibly any Knox based software will fail to authenticate the device (For example, Samsung Pay, and most MDM corporate software uses knox) so you will be permanently unable to use them.
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There is a NEW Knox Free ROOT (like PingPong, but not the same exploit) for T-Mobile 5.1.1 builds. If it works for those ROMS on T-mobile, why cant it work for Sprint if modified? I may hold off on rooting because this could lead to a knox free root for us on 5.1.1 could it not? I know this is specific to T-mobile, but shouldnt the method used be "potentially" applicable to other carriers? If not, educate me and forgive the post.
I realize this uses the ENGINEERING bootloader (like a dev bootloader) that was leaked from T-mobile. We do not have this for Sprint (or any other carriers I believe). So I suppose the "long shot" here for other carriers to get another knox free Root method like this is us getting a similar leaked internal dev bootloader which can be used. Probably not going to happen anytime soon, if ever....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmo...root-g925t-g920t-5-1-1-tripping-knox-t3149653
^^^ Within that thread above, here is a post to focus on: http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmo...pping-knox-t3149653/post61865369#post61865369
And also coverage here:
http://androiding.how/root-t-mobile-s6-and-s6-edge-on-5-1-1-without-tripping-knox-counter/
Root w/o tripping Knox is very important for me as well. I want to play with Samsung Pay when it comes out, (primarily for the gimicky magnetic strip portion.) Also, I'd rather not permanently void my warranty.
I am pretty sure it was an old Asus tablet I had where you could use the manufacturer's officially provided APK to unlock your bootloader--as long as you agreed such action officially voided your warranty. Samsung doesn't care if we unlock bootloaders, but carriers force Samsung to lock your bootloaders; this is very noticeable in the US. You probably already know that bootloader unlock is different than carrier unlock. Would you please ask your respective carrier to let Samsung publish an official bootloader unlock apk that voids your warranty? Really, only a fraction of customers would choose to do so, but it would be an incentive to choose a particular carrier that allowed bootloader unlocking! It would also be an incentive to choose a Samsung phone. Please request it via your carrier's respective account app or however you desire if you agree it's a good idea for Samsung, the carrier and the customer!
Samsung saves money from voided warranties. Samsung gets more people to buy their phones and also makes more money from sales.
Carriers provide an incentive for customers to choose them if they allow their firmware to cooperate with Samsung's bootloader unlock apk.
The customer benefits from a bootloader that they can freely choose to unlock if they choose a carrier who supports Samsung's bootloader unlock apk.
Hello, this might sound stupid but like the case is, if for some reason samsung wants to lock my phone with samsung knox, then can I avoid this lock by rooting my phone ?
e.g. like people send phones from USA, Canada, etc to INDIA and the phones are usually locked when they are in India, so like if the phone is rooted in the originating country then will it get locked or not ?
if it will still then how can I avoid this locking ??
Hi, guys - I've been a OnePlus fan since they first started selling phones, but stopped at the OP7P. IN the past, I rooted my phones as soon as they came out of the box.
I decided to switch back to Samsung after all these years. I live in the US, and purchased a new global SM-S908E-D/S so that I could continue having a rooted phone.
I was going to try out my global S22 Ultra for a week or so before rooting to make sure that I have good coverage for my connection to AT&T. I saw that the global S22 Ultra has many of the AT&T 4G/5G bands that the US version supports, but there are differences. If I don't have good coverage due to the channel differences, I will look into returning the phone.
So, I have a few quick questions:
I know that I will lose all my data once I unlock the bootloader, but can I configure my phone normally and take all Samsung updates before unlocking the bootloader and rooting the phone? On my previous Samsung devices, bootloader unlocking/rooting was patched/blocked by Samsung, so there was a limited opportunity to unlock the bootloader/root.
If I unlock the bootloader, is there a way to relock the bootloader so that it isn't visible that the phone was previously unlocked? I know the Samsung Knox aimed to always fail a security check if the bootloader was ever unlocked.
Is there a way to configure my global S22 Ultra to support all the US AT&T 4G/5G bands instead of a partial list?
Thanks!
¿GJ?
I know the feeling of coming back to a Samsung after experimenting with the open world,
1. Question isn't really clear - As I understood; Yes - You can use the phone, get OTA and configure until you decide to unlock it. Unlocking the bootloader will wipe all data.
2. You can relock the bootloader - but traces will always remain as Knox is a one way ticket. Once broken, Knox can never be sent back to 0x0. Even after relocking, Samsung Apps such as Health and Pay will not work.
3. So far, No confirmed method.
Thanks, @JazonX - That's what I was looking for.
The question for #1 was revolving around how in the earlier days of rooting, it was a cat & mouse chase to stay ahead of the manufacturers with rooting. Some devices I have owned (Amazon FireTV sticks, and my Samsung S4 Tablet, for example) would be rootable for a short period of time, where if you didn't unlock the bootloader and root immediately, you would get an update from Samsung that patched the hole and it was never rootable afterwards.
I was asking if the SM-S908E-D/S would always be rootable (maybe because of the EU?), so that I could use the phone as a normal device, accept all the Samsung updates, and not be concerned that a Samsung update would come along that permanently blocked the bootloader and rooting.
I could decide in a few weeks that the phone was good on AT&T, and then be able to root it at that point.
Unlocking the bootloader doesn't trip Knox. Rooting does.
There are a few "patched" Knox apps that you can use, shealth, private share and secure folder. These are included with beyondrom and Dr ketans rom.
@MRDOCA - Thanks, that's good to know.
I unlocked my bootloader, and I am attempting my first manual Firmware update (not rooting at this time).
I downloaded and ran Frija, which asks for my CSC. Looking into my phone's Software settings, I see that my CSC is CHO/CHO,CHO/CHO/CHO - Which appears to be in Chile. Even though I am in the US on the AT&T network, I'm assuming that I just use the CHO CSC in Frija and my phone will re-adapt to the AT&T network after my update?
Hello Everyone
I purchased a S22 ultra for a couple of buck.
And it has the Samsung KG lock. As the previous owner hasn't completed the payments.
I spoke to Samsung, But they refused to deal with the matter because it requires the original purchaser.
I wast thinking of just trying to make use of this phone before selling it for parts. I have temporarily bypassed the Setup screen (Using the Accessibility menu). I have access to setting and the one ui home. But I cannot enable Developer options. Is there any way I can enable it to unlock OEM
Legally no, you cannot do anything if Samsung themselfs do not want to unlock the phone.
Illegally you probably can, but on this forum you will not get the answers as any illegal link/information is forbidden.
joenamcoutinho said:
Hello Everyone
I purchased a S22 ultra for a couple of buck.
And it has the Samsung KG lock. As the previous owner hasn't completed the payments.
I spoke to Samsung, But they refused to deal with the matter because it requires the original purchaser.
I wast thinking of just trying to make use of this phone before selling it for parts. I have temporarily bypassed the Setup screen (Using the Accessibility menu). I have access to setting and the one ui home. But I cannot enable Developer options. Is there any way I can enable it to unlock OEM
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Rooting will disable Knox. It's not illegal, it can void your warranty though. Trying to bypass the phone being disabled because it wasn't paid off, that is not legal.
About Knox Guard's Mobile Number (IMSI) Lock Policy
gernerttl said:
Rooting will disable Knox. It's not illegal, it can void your warranty though. Trying to bypass the phone being disabled because it wasn't paid off, that is not legal.
About Knox Guard's Mobile Number (IMSI) Lock Policy
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Rooting would disable Knox...but you can't root without unlocking the bootloader. You can't unlock the bootloader without unlocked Knox.
Furthermore...the lock that is active in this particular situation in not the same. This is called KnoxGuard....and it active ant the bootloader level...and therefore not removable.
verszipo said:
Legally no, you cannot do anything if Samsung themselfs do not want to unlock the phone.
Illegally you probably can, but on this forum you will not get the answers as any illegal link/information is forbidden.
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But what if a man has been fooled and and have purchased a 2nd devices ,having k g lock, as due to lack of knowledge of the new security system introduced by the companies , there should be a way to deal with this situation , i understand it is illegal but after all it all demand case to case.
nikubapu said:
But what if a man has been fooled and and have purchased a 2nd devices ,having k g lock, as due to lack of knowledge of the new security system introduced by the companies , there should be a way to deal with this situation , i understand it is illegal but after all it all demand case to case.
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There are ways...but they are definitely not to talked about on this forum...because it is illegal.