can I avoid phone locking with samsung knox by rooting - General Questions and Answers

Hello, this might sound stupid but like the case is, if for some reason samsung wants to lock my phone with samsung knox, then can I avoid this lock by rooting my phone ?
e.g. like people send phones from USA, Canada, etc to INDIA and the phones are usually locked when they are in India, so like if the phone is rooted in the originating country then will it get locked or not ?
if it will still then how can I avoid this locking ??

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What is unlocking ?

Hi,
Guys can anyone tell me what is locking/unlocking devices ??? I live in Egypt, but one of my relatives lives in America I'm going to send it to their home so they can send it to Egypt, which site should I buy from ?. What if I unlocked it will I still have to pay and by unlocking it means I can use anyother carrier ? Software also will be as the international device ? Is it illegal ?
I need any piece of information anyone can help ?
Thanks in advance
Unlocking your phone means your phone will no longer be "tied" to a carrier.
For example I have a T-Mobile Vibrant (from USA), that I use in Canada on Wind, because it was unlocked.
It is not ILLEGAL, (some countries yes, check with your local laws).
I know unlocking blackberries was difficult (from my experience) and you would have to pay a couple dollars for it.
Other phones you just click a button and its unlocked.
Choose the phone you want to buy, and google phone name + unlock.
Hope that helps.
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need help!! network locked phone

Hey friends I got a new Samsung Galaxy Grand Prime as a gift, but the problem is that it is network locked. I have Rooted the phone successfully. I want to know that if I flash suitable firmware will the network lock go away.
P.S. - I have downloaded the firmware via SAMSUNG PHONE INFO App.
Carrier locking typically isn't something that can be bypassed by hacking via root/ROMs/recovery/etc. That info is stored in a different "part" of the phone. You have 2 options:
If the phone is paid for (ie: not on a contract that hasn't been fulfilled by the purchaser), the carrier can give you an unlock code based on the IMEI. I don't know how things are done in Canada, but in the US the device usually has to be used on their network for a certain period of time, like 40 days.
You can also try one of those services that give you unlock codes, but they charge (typically $15-40, depending on age and quality of the device). I've never used one, so I can't comment on how reliable they are. However, I can tell you that if the device is not paid for, and the contract is broken (ie: the purchaser/subscriber stops making payments), the carrier can and in all likelihood eventually will blacklist the IMEI number. This is to prevent fraud/theft (like buying a $1100 iPhone on contract then ditching them).

ODIN Flashing and Carrier Lock question

Hey guys,
I have a Verizon S7 (not Edge) and I noticed some peculiar quirks, like the fact that Verizon put all their stupid bloatware in it (it's 2016 and carriers are still doing this? The guy at Best Buy told me there was only *one* S7 and you could use it on whatever carrier you wanted)
I also notice the lack of Smart Monitor, which is a feature I was really hoping to use, since it was integrated into the system and it means I don't have to root to do some automatic cache cleaning.
At any rate, since I JUST got my phone, I don't want to void my warranty any time soon, especially given it's so expensive. With Motorola you could root and flash custom OSes, and if there was a problem, RSD Lite was your friend and nobody would know... but Samsung does that whole Knox e-fuse nonsense which makes that not an option.
However, I know about ODIN and was told that I wouldn't trip Knox if I used ODIN to flash between the official firmwares - it's only if you try to root it or modify the system partition that you would do so.
Is there any actual hardware difference between my S7 which has a Verizon logo on the back of the case and one from, say, AT&T or T-Mobile who also use 4G LTE? And if not, could I possibly flash a firmware from one of those carriers to mine? The only thing I can think of that would need to be changed are the APNs in order to use the 4G service - and even then it might not matter if that info is stored on the SIM card anyway. (I don't know much about SIMs, Verizon never used them for CDMA, only LTE)
I know T-Mobile's S7 has the Smart Manager intact while I've heard reports of the other 3 big ones removing it.
Or if a "factory unlocked" variant emerges, could I flash that one to my phone? The guy at Best Buy seemed to imply such a thing existed already. I know there is a GSM unlocked version, but that would be (I assume) the Exynos variant and not Snapdragon.
On the other hand...
http://www.androidcentral.com/yes-verizon-galaxy-s7-and-s7-edge-are-sim-unlocked
So if the APNs sort themselves out anyway, I see no reason why I COULDN'T take a T-Mobile ODIN image and flash it to my Verizon phone. Would that trip Knox or would I be alright? Just want to make sure I don't brick a $700 phone...
I would like to know this as well

Question Does Root triggered Knox forever?

Hi guys
I consider to buy the s22 ultra but since I want to root the device I wonder if it will disable my OTA updates and triggered Knox.
My main concern is that I will not be able to sell it in the future in to someone else since many Samsung services will disabled and also OTA updates.
Not sure if it's relevant but In my country we have the SD gen 1 model
Yes it will trigger Knox and no more OTA update, no warranty, no more Samsung Pass etc. and resale value will be greatly diminished.
Damm
I hate Samsung for that
Afaik, after OEM unlock and rooting, if you re-lock the bootloader, flash original (properly signed) rom and disable OEM Unlock, you will have OTA without problems. Tested with my unit SM908B and Tab S7+.
Warranty is a bit more complex, because it depends on the local laws. In most European countries, opening an equipment or unlocking a bootloader does not directly void your warranty, as the manufacturer has to prove it was your manipulation what caused the issue. But this varies from country to country.
It is true though that Knox will be triggered irreversibly any Knox based software will fail to authenticate the device (For example, Samsung Pay, and most MDM corporate software uses knox) so you will be permanently unable to use them.
Redcriwx.

Question New SM-S908E-D/S, and planning on rooting - Got a few quick questions

Hi, guys - I've been a OnePlus fan since they first started selling phones, but stopped at the OP7P. IN the past, I rooted my phones as soon as they came out of the box.
I decided to switch back to Samsung after all these years. I live in the US, and purchased a new global SM-S908E-D/S so that I could continue having a rooted phone.
I was going to try out my global S22 Ultra for a week or so before rooting to make sure that I have good coverage for my connection to AT&T. I saw that the global S22 Ultra has many of the AT&T 4G/5G bands that the US version supports, but there are differences. If I don't have good coverage due to the channel differences, I will look into returning the phone.
So, I have a few quick questions:
I know that I will lose all my data once I unlock the bootloader, but can I configure my phone normally and take all Samsung updates before unlocking the bootloader and rooting the phone? On my previous Samsung devices, bootloader unlocking/rooting was patched/blocked by Samsung, so there was a limited opportunity to unlock the bootloader/root.
If I unlock the bootloader, is there a way to relock the bootloader so that it isn't visible that the phone was previously unlocked? I know the Samsung Knox aimed to always fail a security check if the bootloader was ever unlocked.
Is there a way to configure my global S22 Ultra to support all the US AT&T 4G/5G bands instead of a partial list?
Thanks!
¿GJ?
I know the feeling of coming back to a Samsung after experimenting with the open world,
1. Question isn't really clear - As I understood; Yes - You can use the phone, get OTA and configure until you decide to unlock it. Unlocking the bootloader will wipe all data.
2. You can relock the bootloader - but traces will always remain as Knox is a one way ticket. Once broken, Knox can never be sent back to 0x0. Even after relocking, Samsung Apps such as Health and Pay will not work.
3. So far, No confirmed method.
Thanks, @JazonX - That's what I was looking for.
The question for #1 was revolving around how in the earlier days of rooting, it was a cat & mouse chase to stay ahead of the manufacturers with rooting. Some devices I have owned (Amazon FireTV sticks, and my Samsung S4 Tablet, for example) would be rootable for a short period of time, where if you didn't unlock the bootloader and root immediately, you would get an update from Samsung that patched the hole and it was never rootable afterwards.
I was asking if the SM-S908E-D/S would always be rootable (maybe because of the EU?), so that I could use the phone as a normal device, accept all the Samsung updates, and not be concerned that a Samsung update would come along that permanently blocked the bootloader and rooting.
I could decide in a few weeks that the phone was good on AT&T, and then be able to root it at that point.
Unlocking the bootloader doesn't trip Knox. Rooting does.
There are a few "patched" Knox apps that you can use, shealth, private share and secure folder. These are included with beyondrom and Dr ketans rom.
@MRDOCA - Thanks, that's good to know.
I unlocked my bootloader, and I am attempting my first manual Firmware update (not rooting at this time).
I downloaded and ran Frija, which asks for my CSC. Looking into my phone's Software settings, I see that my CSC is CHO/CHO,CHO/CHO/CHO - Which appears to be in Chile. Even though I am in the US on the AT&T network, I'm assuming that I just use the CHO CSC in Frija and my phone will re-adapt to the AT&T network after my update?

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