Hey guys, Im new here and my search for an answer let me to you for help. so here goes...
As you probably know by now, Verizon has released an unlimited plan, catch is after 10 gigs of hotspot you are knocked
back to 3g for further hotspoting during the billing cycle, I need a way around this as LTE is my soul source of high speed
intenet access as cable isn't available in my area.
I know about the pdanet+ app and tethering it to a laptop via cable allows for hiding the tether usage from the carrier,
does this still work? If so once its hooked up can I use my laptop like a router for other devises in the house and still be
masking the tether usage?
Or perhaps there is a simpler way now? Im open to all suggestions, BTW right now I'm on a iPhone but have come to the
conclusion if Im going to make this work I need to switch to a android (probably a galaxy s7 edge)
Tommy
Unfortunately on Verizon they have any way to do just gotta blocked. But if you really want unlimited data and Hotspot you have two options.
T-Mobile One plan
AT&T Unlimited Data Plan** (https://forum.xda-developers.com/att-s7-edge/how-to/att-mobile-hotspot-glitch-t3383680)
**Only works for Galaxy S7 Edge AT&T branded on 6.0.1 not 7.0
I did the AT&T Unlimited Data Plan. Screenshots attached. ?
These are the only ways that I can personally confirm.
I was using Foxfi to Hotspot my Verizon Grandfathered UDP .... I Just got the Galaxy S8+ and found out the hard way that Google(nougat), Samsung and Verizon teamed up to kill Foxfi's Hotspot hack. Until we have an unlocked boatloader. root or another working exploit, Hotspot isnt going to work on the Galaxy S8..The good news is I was able to find a decent workaround with an app called "Net Share-no-root-tethering" from the play store... It uses Wifi-Direct to share your phones data plan.. It does the trick and I'm able to share my data plan with other wireless devices.. I was literally just about to return my S8+ rather than wait weeks or months for the devs to crack the vault.. Hope this helps ease the tetherless pain while we wait for a new exploit ..
Edit: Please note this is not an equal substitute for native Hotspot.. I found the speeds to be much slower, but for basic internet use like checking email, and web surfing the connection was adequate.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=kha.prog.mikrotik&hl=en#details-reviews
For some reason, my S8 Verizon hotspot works. I'm also on the old unlimited plan.
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jahciple said:
For some reason, my S8 Verizon hotspot works. I'm also on the old unlimited plan.
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Does it show checking for subscription when you toggle it on?
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Does it show checking for subscription when you toggle it on?
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It doesn't give me the subscription check. I'm still on the $30 UDP.
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How did you get it to work? How do you configure it?
Yeah my Galaxy s8 plus also lets me toggle hotspot without telling my that I need to be subscribe. I have unlimited but I never bought the hotspot plan. Would using the hotspot show on my bill?
Weird since I have Verizon with the Unlimited plan and hotspot does not work, even though it IS included with the plan. OP's app is garbage tbh, I get 50+mbps on speed test on the phone but on my computer I can hardly get above 10. Something is being lost in transmission and it isn't the fault of my PC. Is Wifi direct trash or something?
My phone also tells me that I need to "Subscribe" to the Hotspot feature at Verizon but it is already included in my plan, what gives?
Haven't tried this yet but hope it works on my at& t.
It got my tether on but I can't get it to share my data… it shows up on my pc but it says can't access.
App doesn't work for me. Im on Verizon.
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I was using Foxfi to Hotspot my Verizon Grandfathered UDP .... I Just got the Galaxy S8+ and found out the hard way that Google(nougat), Samsung and Verizon teamed up to kill Foxfi's Hotspot hack. Until we have an unlocked boatloader. root or another working exploit, Hotspot isnt going to work on the Galaxy S8..The good news is I was able to find a decent workaround with an app called "Net Share-no-root-tethering" from the play store... It uses Wifi-Direct to share your phones data plan.. It does the trick and I'm able to share my data plan with other wireless devices.. I was literally just about to return my S8+ rather than wait weeks or months for the devs to crack the vault.. Hope this helps ease the tetherless pain while we wait for a new exploit ..
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=kha.prog.mikrotik&hl=en#details-reviews
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Can you explain how it works? ?
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How did you get it to work? How do you configure it?
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I didn't do anything. Just changed the SSid and password. Also I checked my plan online and I don't have hotspot as an added feature.
Not working successfully with my AT&T S8 and my MacBook Pro. I do have EasyTether Pro working great but that requires a usb connection.
Hey Guys, I tried this on my S7 Verizon and it works, you have to check the help option on the app. I had to change my HTTP Proxy and port number on my iPad to connect successfully.
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Hey Guys, I tried this on my S7 Verizon and it works, you have to check the help option on the app. I had to change my HTTP Proxy and port number on my iPad to connect successfully.
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Yup works fine here too.
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it creates some type of wifi direct connection.. the speeds arent as good as hotspot but it does make a wireless connection that can be used to share your phones data plan.
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Weird since I have Verizon with the Unlimited plan and hotspot does not work, even though it IS included with the plan. OP's app is garbage tbh, I get 50+mbps on speed test on the phone but on my computer I can hardly get above 10. Something is being lost in transmission and it isn't the fault of my PC. Is Wifi direct trash or something?
My phone also tells me that I need to "Subscribe" to the Hotspot feature at Verizon but it is already included in my plan, what gives?
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Speeds arent good at all with wifi direct but considering native hotspot doesnt work its all I got for wireless tether.... I cant get USB/ or bluetooth tether to work from phone to another Android tablet..
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make sure when u are typing the password that you also select manual proxy and enter 192.168.49.1 and then for port enter 8282
I got this to work without the app.
Hey guys, just got an s8+ today and found out that the native hotspot will work if you pop sim tray out, it will then take you to lock screen, pull down tray and turn on hotspot. You may get an error saying no sim installed but just keep pushing hotspot button until it turns on. It is working on mine now but now I am trying to figure out how I can disable ota updates. Anyone have any help for me? Thanks
Has anyone figured out how to bypass the tethering restrictions on t-mobile using a non rooted Unlocked Note 20 Ultra?
Before I used to use adb commands but now my tether usage is being detected.
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I would love to know. Never had hotspot issue with note9 until now
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After it became apparent that even pdanet with "hide tether usage" enabled was being detected, I started using Every Proxy in conjunction with pdanet and that seems to hide it. I haven't tested it with the standard hotspot. Alternatively, NetShare hotspot has the proxy built right in so you don't have to run 2 separate apps, but it's $8.99 for the full version.
wvufankevin1991 said:
After it became apparent that even pdanet with "hide tether usage" enabled was being detected, I started using Every Proxy in conjunction with pdanet and that seems to hide it. I haven't tested it with the standard hotspot. Alternatively, NetShare hotspot has the proxy built right in so you don't have to run 2 separate apps, but it's $8.99 for the full version.
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Thank you for that heads up. Netshare worked like a charm. No way am I paying these carriers another dollar for service I should be able to use as I see fit.
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Thank you for that heads up. Netshare worked like a charm. No way am I paying these carriers another dollar for service I should be able to use as I see fit.
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What about foxfi? That doesn't work? If I buy the note 20 ultra I want to be able to tether un rooter no problem with Verizon as well.
i had lost cable/net for about week because of a storm about a week or 2 ago, had to use PDA net plus on my note 8 (no root and latest OFW) to get my desktop back online for a week. Using usb tether in the app, my tethering usage was detected as if i was normally tethering and i hit my cap. Then i tried wifi direct hotspot in the app and that worked, however i started getting notifications that i had surpassed my allowed data for the month for the phone itself and i could be throttled, interesting considering im on a true unlimited plan from 10 years ago before they thought up this crap and i used to run 1 to 2 TB of data usage a month to avoid comcast/time warner.
Anyways, i havnt tried this out on my Note20 yet, but thats what got me back in the "unlimited" zone on my note 8. i dont know if something has changed with OS build/new hardware. hope it works out for you who need it.
Note 20 Ultra: SM-N968U1 vs SM-N968U - Hotspot/Tethering U.S. Carrier Detection
(1) Have Samsung S7Edge SM-G935F (International Version) with AT&T Unlimited Plan. NO AT&T software is on the phone. As such, tethering and hotspoting are NOT detected. I assume the key was an absence of AT&T "local" software on the phone. I read via XDA "S20 Ultra Plus" Forum that the "U1" version of the phone has NO U.S. carrier software on the phone, where the "U" version is 'multiple carrier loaded'. I assume the same applies to the Note 20 Ultra SM-N968U1 that this version has NO carrier bloatware/apps (vs. the ostensible "carrier loaded" version SM-N968U). (Note: AT&T beginning Feb/2022 will only allow only the U1/U models on their network.) I am "hoping" when I buy the Note 20 Ultra "U1" (SM-N968U1) that (a) there will be no carrier software on the phone and (b) when I use it as I use the S7Edge, the tethering/hotspot usage also will not be tracked. If anyone can provide thoughts on this +/-, I'd appreciate it.
(2) If the Note 20 Ultra SM-N968U1 "tethering/hotspot" usage is tracked, then what apps should I have/pay for and in what order? It appears per the above posts that PDANet/Plus is one required, and in addition so is Every Proxy; another is just Netshare hotspot. If anyone can suggest a "planned" app combo w/settings that works to avoid carrier tethering/hotspot detection, I'd appreciate that heads-up. Will of course post my experience here once I get the phone and get into a plan-month. TIA for your help. It's appreciated.
I'm bummed because I bought SM-U68U1 that has no carrier bloatware/apps with AT&T Unlimited Elite and they are detecting my hotspot usage.
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I'm bummed because I bought SM-U68U1 that has no carrier bloatware/apps with AT&T Unlimited Elite and they are detecting my hotspot usage.
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Thank you mbmike29. That's just as I figured. Looks like one of those "spoof apps" will have to be used. Or possibly flash a Hong Kong image or other International version image - I don't think it would change the IMEI number, although with the "Elite" package they might be measuring tethering/hotspot on their server end (like VZN does), thus the app-spoof proxy solutions. Flashing Hong Kong or other firmware "might" affect the "bands" the phone is able to receive, though band reception might be at the phone/hardware level, unless the region-specific O/S affects that. I know there's original U1 Samsung firmware to revert the phone back to stock if need be. I would not do a firmware flash without exhausting all other options first.
What a ridiculous situation in 2020, not getting what we are paying for. We are so backwards in this country, technologically speaking, and in so many other ways comparatively.
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(1) Have Samsung S7Edge SM-G935F (International Version) with AT&T Unlimited Plan. NO AT&T software is on the phone. As such, tethering and hotspoting are NOT detected. I assume the key was an absence of AT&T "local" software on the phone. I read via XDA "S20 Ultra Plus" Forum that the "U1" version of the phone has NO U.S. carrier software on the phone, where the "U" version is 'multiple carrier loaded'. I assume the same applies to the Note 20 Ultra SM-N968U1 that this version has NO carrier bloatware/apps (vs. the ostensible "carrier loaded" version SM-N968U). (Note: AT&T beginning Feb/2022 will only allow only the U1/U models on their network.) I am "hoping" when I buy the Note 20 Ultra "U1" (SM-N968U1) that (a) there will be no carrier software on the phone and (b) when I use it as I use the S7Edge, the tethering/hotspot usage also will not be tracked. If anyone can provide thoughts on this +/-, I'd appreciate it.
(2) If the Note 20 Ultra SM-N968U1 "tethering/hotspot" usage is tracked, then what apps should I have/pay for and in what order? It appears per the above posts that PDANet/Plus is one required, and in addition so is Every Proxy; another is just Netshare hotspot. If anyone can suggest a "planned" app combo w/settings that works to avoid carrier tethering/hotspot detection, I'd appreciate that heads-up. Will of course post my experience here once I get the phone and get into a plan-month. TIA for your help. It's appreciated.
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I use the Netshare with the proxy and so far so good.
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i had lost cable/net for about week because of a storm about a week or 2 ago, had to use PDA net plus on my note 8 (no root and latest OFW) to get my desktop back online for a week. Using usb tether in the app, my tethering usage was detected as if i was normally tethering and i hit my cap. Then i tried wifi direct hotspot in the app and that worked, however i started getting notifications that i had surpassed my allowed data for the month for the phone itself and i could be throttled, interesting considering im on a true unlimited plan from 10 years ago before they thought up this crap and i used to run 1 to 2 TB of data usage a month to avoid comcast/time warner.
Anyways, i havnt tried this out on my Note20 yet, but thats what got me back in the "unlimited" zone on my note 8. i dont know if something has changed with OS build/new hardware. hope it works out for you who need it.
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Something definitely changed because on my note9 I never had issues with hotspot
I was able to get mine working on my unlocked variant on the sprint network.
I did the same for a family member on Sprint, works great for them. Just wish there was an way to do it for T-Mobile without root. Wondering what additional checks were added?
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I was able to get mine working on my unlocked variant on the sprint network.
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Have you had any hotspot crashing issues on your sprint note20 ultra?
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Have you had any hotspot crashing issues on your sprint note20 ultra?
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It seems to only crash during 5G. If I switch to 4G LTE / CDMA only mode, it doesn't crash.
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Have you had any hotspot crashing issues on your sprint note20 ultra?
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It seems to only crash during 5G. If I switch to 4G LTE / CDMA only mode, it doesn't crash.
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Seems to be working fine. Which carrier are you using?
So, PDAnet (with the foxfi key) DOES work, bypassing the hotspot. I just checked my VZ account, and the phone itself. VZ has no hotspot usage listed for this month, and all my hotspot settings are (and always have been) currently off. I've burned through 196G of data so far, with nothing from VZ yet. I do have the hotspot feature on my account, but with my data usage and their 'cap' of 15G, it's simply not practical. Been using PDA since 2014 back when I had straight talk, and they HATE hotspots...
In any event, VZ DOES have PDAnet listed on the account page that breaks down the apps using data. All they'd need to do is take a peek...
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So, PDAnet (with the foxfi key) DOES work, bypassing the hotspot. I just checked my VZ account, and the phone itself. VZ has no hotspot usage listed for this month, and all my hotspot settings are (and always have been) currently off. I've burned through 196G of data so far, with nothing from VZ yet. I do have the hotspot feature on my account, but with my data usage and their 'cap' of 15G, it's simply not practical. Been using PDA since 2014 back when I had straight talk, and they HATE hotspots...
In any event, VZ DOES have PDAnet listed on the account page that breaks down the apps using data. All they'd need to do is take a peek...
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Thank you Admiral_Piett. 'Appreciate your info. Question: what is the "foxfi key" you mentioned? Does that come with PDANet, is it a "setting", or is it another apps that works in conjunction with PDANet? Also is PDANet = PDANet "Plus"? Separately, if you use a VPN on your phone, I believe the apps/app usage is not published out of the VPN. That also makes me think that a VPN obviates the need for PDANet, but I'm not certain of that. I'd have to do additional research to answer this question (unless a viewer of this thread knows and weighs-in. Stay tuned on that one. Thank you again Admiral.
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So, PDAnet (with the foxfi key) DOES work, bypassing the hotspot. I just checked my VZ account, and the phone itself. VZ has no hotspot usage listed for this month, and all my hotspot settings are (and always have been) currently off. I've burned through 196G of data so far, with nothing from VZ yet. I do have the hotspot feature on my account, but with my data usage and their 'cap' of 15G, it's simply not practical. Been using PDA since 2014 back when I had straight talk, and they HATE hotspots...
In any event, VZ DOES have PDAnet listed on the account page that breaks down the apps using data. All they'd need to do is take a peek...
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Wait are u using foxfi or PDA net... Pdanet I know needs that program on other devices... Does the foxfi portion work for you... I get the error message stating my phone don't have hotspot.
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Wait are u using foxfi or PDA net... Pdanet I know needs that program on other devices... Does the foxfi portion work for you... I get the error message stating my phone don't have hotspot.
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PDAnet. Foxfi is for older legacy models. However, my foxfi key registers on pda... Maybe foxfi was bought? But yes, you are correct. PDAnet still needs to be on both items for it to function.
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Thank you Admiral_Piett. 'Appreciate your info. Question: what is the "foxfi key" you mentioned? Does that come with PDANet, is it a "setting", or is it another apps that works in conjunction with PDANet? Also is PDANet = PDANet "Plus"? Separately, if you use a VPN on your phone, I believe the apps/app usage is not published out of the VPN. That also makes me think that a VPN obviates the need for PDANet, but I'm not certain of that. I'd have to do additional research to answer this question (unless a viewer of this thread knows and weighs-in. Stay tuned on that one. Thank you again Admiral.
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Foxfi was an older tunneling app that would bypass Hotspot restrictions (what pdanet does today). Not really sure what PDAnet plus is, will look that up after this post. And no, I don't currently use a VPN in conjunction with pda. It's sufficiently kept me hidden as far as downloading with no Hotspot, and I don't roam the 'net too much to worry about needing a VPN. A VPN would further increase concealment as far as downloading large files, since it'd point to a random server, not a specific source, if you will.
I have Sprint as well as PDA.net. It works wonderful for tethering directly via USB but for hotspot it still shows usage on my account page. I have a special $30 plan with unlimited data and all and 50GB hot spot. Is there any way to by pass that restriction on PDANET or setting? Also, I heart about the Netshare but when I search Google play, it has two different versions with two different full version pricing so I am not sure which to use if those help. Any advice would be greately appreciated.
Greetings!
I've been on a Sprint/T mobile Galaxy note 5 for awhile. T mobile said I must upgrade to 5G or lose service in Jan.
I am choosing between One Plus Nord N200 or N10 and the Ace 5G.
Before I commit, if anyone can answer this. I mainly use Wifi hotspot to my PC. I have a ROM on my Note and It works fine without having a special T mobile Hotspot plan.
Can anyone recommend a ROM that would give me the Hotspot ability? Is there any other means to get unlimited hotspot?
How is the wifi and 5G/LTE on the One 5G Ace? I ask because I was leaning toward the low end Samsung A32, but read it has issues keeping connected via wifi etc. And Data and Hotspot is my primary use for the phone.
Thanks
Max
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Greetings!
I've been on a Sprint/T mobile Galaxy note 5 for awhile. T mobile said I must upgrade to 5G or lose service in Jan.
I am choosing between One Plus Nord N200 or N10 and the Ace 5G.
Before I commit, if anyone can answer this. I mainly use Wifi hotspot to my PC. I have a ROM on my Note and It works fine without having a special T mobile Hotspot plan.
Can anyone recommend a ROM that would give me the Hotspot ability? Is there any other means to get unlimited hotspot?
How is the wifi and 5G/LTE on the One 5G Ace? I ask because I was leaning toward the low end Samsung A32, but read it has issues keeping connected via wifi etc. And Data and Hotspot is my primary use for the phone.
Thanks
Max
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Wifi for receiving is perfect, working Wifi n equipment. As a tether machine, dunno man what to say.
I am using Micromax Bharat 2 for lte tethering and always on working with charger, coz it was my temporary phone for $40 in 2019. One thing i know when i was making my choice i learned about 5G chips and technology itself and it runs Qualcomm Snapdragon 750 G which one of few in High-end class chips using mm-waves along with standart 5G. Depending on your plan and carrier it should be fine. Read wiki about Snapdragons and features and then make a search which phone best for price , technology offers, NFC , solid RAM + Diskspace, display features for such not big price was offered only by Motorola + 2 year software updates, So decision fall to Moto before buying used Google Pixels with drained batteries. And honestly searching for great price offer in USA was like searching needle/pencil in US market after shipped it internationally to my location.
One thing you may notice - Bluetooth WORKS ROCK SOLID, Not only 5.1 version (Bluetooth LE) but also options in Developer options - once you changed them , they work as they should be - switching codes, channels, max users and so on. Sound is so brilliant even on $20 wireless headphones. Unlik on Pixel 1st - when i open developer option change value , turn off device and have to do it again and again. Plus 5000 mAh battery and so on, so on.
Take a few reviews specifically for wifi - from Cnet guys or someone else to see what you will get from wifi.
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Thank's Nick!
Most likely going with Moto. They started Cel phones back in the day, and I assume their radios are top notch.
I have unlimited Data from my carrier in the US T-mobile. I don't have broadband where I use my desktop so have been very happy with wifi hotspot on my Galaxy Note 5 with LTE. But like I said, they no longer support the Note five in a few weeks. I have the MOAR custom rom on it and that gives me the hotspot without being charged extra by T-Mobile.
I will try the Liniage ROM on the MOTO and hope its Hotspot works the same.
Thanks for your reply!
Best wishes
Max
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Thank's Nick!
Most likely going with Moto. They started Cel phones back in the day, and I assume their radios are top notch.
I have unlimited Data from my carrier in the US T-mobile. I don't have broadband where I use my desktop so have been very happy with wifi hotspot on my Galaxy Note 5 with LTE. But like I said, they no longer support the Note five in a few weeks. I have the MOAR custom rom on it and that gives me the hotspot without being charged extra by T-Mobile.
I will try the Liniage ROM on the MOTO and hope its Hotspot works the same.
Thanks for your reply!
Best wishes
Max
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We have 3 Moto ACe 5g's on T-Mobile. Great phone. You don't need a custom ROM. Just root the phone and use VPN Hotspot App.
disneytoy said:
Greetings!
I've been on a Sprint/T mobile Galaxy note 5 for awhile. T mobile said I must upgrade to 5G or lose service in Jan.
I am choosing between One Plus Nord N200 or N10 and the Ace 5G.
Before I commit, if anyone can answer this. I mainly use Wifi hotspot to my PC. I have a ROM on my Note and It works fine without having a special T mobile Hotspot plan.
Can anyone recommend a ROM that would give me the Hotspot ability? Is there any other means to get unlimited hotspot?
How is the wifi and 5G/LTE on the One 5G Ace? I ask because I was leaning toward the low end Samsung A32, but read it has issues keeping connected via wifi etc. And Data and Hotspot is my primary use for the phone.
Thanks
i have both the 5 ace &nordn200..using them both actually as i type...
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and i have to say...there both great hotspots...never an issue..and speedtest on both are incredible..with devices connected as well..the connected device is super fast.. never no slowdown ..i rack up plenty of gigs/data...
i belive the 5 ace is a little peppy'er...i luv my one plus thow..
NEVERSETTLE....GOOD LUCK
I scoured the internet for the last few hours trying to determine if there is still a way to use an app, or some other method to essentially hotspot my phone, without a hotspot plan. My phone is network unlocked from OnePlus directly, and I have unlimited everything (not even cap throttling) through US Mobile, but they changed their hotspot services (afaik) after they moved to "WARP 5G." Last year I switched to them from Google Fi SPECIFICALLY because of the hotspot capability, and I don't want to start paying for it now, especially considering the Warp 5G capability is on their SUPER LTE (Verizon) specific sim, while I can only use their GSM (T-Mobile) sim.
I digress. Is there an app or ROM/Root method that will let me share my phones data with say, an iPad, or other phone? PDAnet and Foxfi only repeat whatever Wi-Fi signal my phone is connected to, and this is not what I'm looking for. (Woe 2012 3g pdanet)
Edit: it appears im a fool and just didnt figure out how to tether via BT to an ipad. In the mean time, if any of you have some decent ideas, im still all ears for if/when i need a back up plan