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Oneplus 6 Oxygen OS updates & Project Treble

Hi guys, Im currently the owner of a Nexus 6P looking for an upgrade. Im torn between the Pixel 2 XL and OnePlus 6!
I love the quick software updates on the pixel line but i've heard that OnePlus is pretty good at getting updates out and with Android 8.1 bringing project treble would it be right to assume the updates could be even faster in the future?
How does oxygen OS compare to stock android? Have people with 5Ts had quick updates?
Thanks

hltbest said:
Hi guys, Im currently the owner of a Nexus 6P looking for an upgrade. Im torn between the Pixel 2 XL and OnePlus 6!
I love the quick software updates on the pixel line but i've heard that OnePlus is pretty good at getting updates out and with Android 8.1 bringing project treble would it be right to assume the updates could be even faster in the future?
How does oxygen OS compare to stock android? Have people with 5Ts had quick updates?
Thanks
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Hey buddy,
I'm currently on the OnePlus 5 and have had it since launch. It's my first OP phone and won't be my last.
In terms of updates, I would say OnePlus is one of the best out there (at least in the first year of a phones release). Having said that, the OP3/T seem to have had pretty decent updates in their second year with them getting an Oreo 8.0 beta before the OP5/T!
With treble being mandatory on any new phone now, it will be there and their release cycle will no doubt be impacted by it. I can only assume this will be to our (as consumers) benefit.
If you want the fastest updates out there after / in line with Pixel then the main other contender is Nokia. They are doing all of the monthly security updates and sometimes before they come to the Pixel phones.
Sent from my OnePlus 5 using XDA Labs

Well it's great to see the OnePlus 6 is being released with the Android P Beta program! Makes me confident that OnePlus will have fast updates due to project treble!!

Nokia 8.1;Android One, starts receiveing Android 10, good news for A2 Lite ?

"HMD Global has announced the rollout of Android 10 for the Nokia 8.1, making it the first Nokia smartphone to get a stable build of the latest version of Android."
https://m.gsmarena.com/nokia_8_1_android_10_update-news-39549.php
Is this good news for any Android One phone, or Android One project, or is it a matter of manufacturers that build the phones, maybe this could have good effect on development of Android 10 for A2 Lite ?

Nokia always gave timely updates to their devices, this matter doesn't really have any effect on other androidone devices. Nokia also adds other features to their phones (they're all androidone afaik), like round ui, pixel blue accent color and cam2api. As far as updates go, xiaomi isn't that good with their androidone phones, so don't get your hopes up and get frustrated afterwards. I would love to have Android 10 soon but, I know it's not gonna happen. Cheers.

its strictly related to nokia, this. the fact that they will push it sooner then xiaomi means nothing to us. it all depends on Xiaomi when they will start working for it, and when will they release... nokia is known for being faster to update then xiaomi thats for sure. so just sit and wait
...or, you could install unofficial android 10, there is a good GSI version here on xda which works fairly well.

marstonpear said:
Nokia always gave timely updates to their devices, this matter doesn't really have any effect on other androidone devices. Nokia also adds other features to their phones (they're all androidone afaik), like round ui, pixel blue accent color and cam2api. As far as updates go, xiaomi isn't that good with their androidone phones, so don't get your hopes up and get frustrated afterwards. I would love to have Android 10 soon but, I know it's not gonna happen. Cheers.
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My brother is using a Nokia 7 plus and I had Android 9 weeks before him and even with security updates Nokia isn't faster all the time compared to Xiaomi.

I've never managed to get any kind of custom rom working through TWRP because of the kinstalldeviceopenerror.

thorin0815 said:
My brother is using a Nokia 7 plus and I had Android 9 weeks before him and even with security updates Nokia isn't faster all the time compared to Xiaomi.
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Okay let me ask this, do you consider the Pie update we got as stable? Because I still think that we never got a stable build of Pie from Xiaomi. I can't even update to September update because it breaks the digitizer for me and I can't even use the screen properly. I have no idea how stable is Nokia's version of Pie but maybe you can enlighten us about that.

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Okay let me ask this, do you consider the Pie update we got as stable? Because I still think that we never got a stable build of Pie from Xiaomi. I can't even update to September update because it breaks the digitizer for me and I can't even use the screen properly. I have no idea how stable is Nokia's version of Pie but maybe you can enlighten us about that.
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In my eyes our Android Pie is very stable. I never had to reboot my device due to system instability bugs. The worst one I ever had was the screen rotate flash bug. My battery backup after one year of usage is still superb, usually I get 7 hours of screentime within 5-6 days of usage. Most reported bugs appear to be on devices which had installed custom firmware and messed up vendor partitions.
The only thing I dislike on this device is the low headphone sound volume while using a European Union display language. I'm just using U.S. English to fix that.
I don't know about bugs in Nokia phones, my brother never told me about anything special and I can't check his phone because he's in England and I'm in Germany.

Any news for Android 10 update?

perfect_ said:
Any news for Android 10 update?
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Nothing official, but I think q1/2020 would be a good guess.

Last year Mi A1 got the Android 9 update on the 23rd of december.
My guess is Mi A2 Lite will get Android 10 in late december.

December update

Hey People,
Any hope of Android 10 coming now as a christmas present?

Guess we'll find out soon ?
Yeah know it doesn't help :good:

AdrielMetal said:
Hey People,
Any hope of Android 10 coming now as a christmas present?
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Chances for it are rather low.

So basically Android 9 was released by Google on August 6, 2018 and we got the Beta for Pie at the end of November/ beginning of December 2018. Considering that Android 10 was released by Google on May, 2019. We can assume that it takes roughly 3-4 months for the first year Android One phones. Mi A1 got its second Android update (Android 9) at the end of December 2018, which means that it took the Mi A1 4 months to get its second Android update, which means altogether that XIAOMI IS FRICKING LATE AGAIN.
So yeah, I also hope for at least a 10 Beta, but I'm not keeping my hopes up about it. I'd suggest you do the same. Cheers.

Meanwhile I got the MIUI 11 update on my other phone at the end of October. Android One is a joke.

andraslate said:
Meanwhile I got the MIUI 11 update on my other phone at the end of October. Android One is a joke.
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No, this only shows Xiaomi's priorities. They put the best part of their developers to work on MIUI, and leave A1 phones for their spare time.
There was a mention in other thread a while ago about Xiaomi wanting to drop A1 phones all together, but we never got confirmation about it.

andraslate said:
Meanwhile I got the MIUI 11 update on my other phone at the end of October. Android One is a joke.
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It's not necessary for MIUI 11 to have android 10, on my other phone I got MIUI 11 and I still have android 9.

MIUI is Xiaomi's selling point. Android One probably has a relatively low priority and therefore very few manpower, as it produces the least profit. All of their customer support people I had contact with didn't even knew that they sell non MIUI devices.
Edit: Nokia isn't any better. My Nokia 7 Plus usually gets the security updates later than my A2 Lite and Android 10 will not be around until next year as well.

marstonpear said:
So basically Android 9 was released by Google on August 6, 2018 and we got the Beta for Pie at the end of November/ beginning of December 2018. Considering that Android 10 was released by Google on May, 2019. We can assume that it takes roughly 3-4 months for the first year Android One phones. Mi A1 got its second Android update (Android 9) at the end of December 2018, which means that it took the Mi A1 4 months to get its second Android update, which means altogether that XIAOMI IS FRICKING LATE AGAIN.
So yeah, I also hope for at least a 10 Beta, but I'm not keeping my hopes up about it. I'd suggest you do the same. Cheers.
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Mi A1 launched with Android 7 which means it doesnt support native Project Treble. On the other side our phone launched with Android 8 which means we must take updates fast than Mi A1.
Even Huawei P Smart 2019 got its Android 10 update. This is real shame for Xiaomi and Google.

andraslate said:
Meanwhile I got the MIUI 11 update on my other phone at the end of October. Android One is a joke.
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I heard MIUI 11 is not at all Android 10 (at least on my father's Redmi Note 7 and neighbor's Redmi Note 8) and Xiaomeme (as we call it since the 'bricking' update of Mi A2) shows that they're really cockteasing Android 10 in most of their devices where in fact it is still Android Pie (at least in developing countries like PHL regions).
And yeah, AndroidOne is not their priorities, even they did not fix bugs, but instead, adding more bugs than what it already have.

Nokia 7.1 get today android 10 update

RFD80M-75679 said:
I heard MIUI 11 is not at all Android 10 (at least on my father's Redmi Note 7 and neighbor's Redmi Note 8) and Xiaomeme (as we call it since the 'bricking' update of Mi A2) shows that they're really cockteasing Android 10 in most of their devices where in fact it is still Android Pie (at least in developing countries like PHL regions).
And yeah, AndroidOne is not their priorities, even they did not fix bugs, but instead, adding more bugs than what it already have.
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My Redmi Note 4 (Mido) got MIUI 11 some weeks ago. On Top of Android 7, no kidding ?
Update on Mi A2 Lite is Joke!

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My Redmi Note 4 (Mido) got MIUI 11 some weeks ago. On Top of Android 7, no kidding
Update on Mi A2 Lite is Joke!
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It's the same case here.. All of my friends got MIUI 11 on top of Android 8 and 9. And here we are waiting for a promised update ..

miloske83 said:
Nokia 7.1 get today android 10 update
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Might be, but my 7 plus will get it 2020.

Are we scammed?

perfect_ said:
Are we scammed?
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No. Xiaomi isn't the best when it comes to updates. Guess they don't have the manpower.
Edit: Also most other manufacturers only releases Android 10 updates in this year for their flagships. Mid-range / budget phones are at the bottom of the line.

andraslate said:
Meanwhile I got the MIUI 11 update on my other phone at the end of October. Android One is a joke.
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MIUI 11 It's not an Android update, it's just a Customization layer

andraslate said:
No. Xiaomi isn't the best when it comes to updates. Guess they don't have the manpower.
Edit: Also most other manufacturers only releases Android 10 updates in this year for their flagships. Mid-range / budget phones are at the bottom of the line.
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Do you think Huawei P Smart 2019 is a flagship??? It got Android 10 update!! Plus this phone has heavy bloated UI instead of our phone’s naked Android UI. Huawei updated it before the Xiaomi&Google’s Android One phone.
Google should take action about it. Google can suspend Xiaomi’s Android One licence. Xiaomi intentionally not giving any info about promised update and they still didnt gived any OS update. No one wants to buy a lie!

I thought the whole point of the Android One program was to ensure that the phones received timely updates for 2 years, which would include at least 2 OS updates.

Oh guys, calm down. December update for A2 lite isnt even out and you are talking about bad update policy. Once a month we get a security patch and Android Q is guaranteed for our device.
What do you all expect from a phone that costs 150,- (and now even cheaper)?
Buy a Pixel phone if you want beta and stable versions of the latest android.

Is it worth installing Lineage OS now the official updates have finished?

Hey,
I love my Pixel 2 and I have now received the last official Google update, running Android 11.
My question is what is the risk if I stick with my end of life official android version on my Android 11?
I've got no real urge to move to Lineage OS, especially as it's currently only up to android 10 for the Pixel 2 (Thanks to those guys still doing the development, I don't mean to belittle their efforts).
I don't really understand if there's a huge security risk involved in keeping my phone going as long as possible without further Official updates. I've changed the battery and charging port on the phone and it runs like new. I also enjoy the Android 11 features. Do you expect that Lineage will continue to Android 11 for the Pixel 2?
Thanks in Advance

DantonFerntash said:
Hey,
I love my Pixel 2 and I have now received the last official Google update, running Android 11.
My question is what is the risk if I stick with my end of life official android version on my Android 11?
I've got no real urge to move to Lineage OS, especially as it's currently only up to android 10 for the Pixel 2 (Thanks to those guys still doing the development, I don't mean to belittle their efforts).
I don't really understand if there's a huge security risk involved in keeping my phone going as long as possible without further Official updates. I've changed the battery and charging port on the phone and it runs like new. I also enjoy the Android 11 features. Do you expect that Lineage will continue to Android 11 for the Pixel 2?
Thanks in Advance
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The risk is probably small, but since we're no longer getting basic Android security updates, technically those vulnerabilities could be used to hack your phone.
What does your Pixel 2 say under Settings -> About Phone -> Android version (tap on it)?
Mine is showing:
Android version
11
Android security update
October 5, 2020
Google Play system update
December 1, 2020
Kernel version
4.4.223-ElementalX-P2-4.09
Build number
RP1A.201005.004.A1
Shouldn't the security update also be December? I'm curious if yours shows December for everything.

Situation regarding software updates

Mi Mix 3 was a flagship phone in 2018. Mine is global version and I have not received updates since 2021.
Are they really gonna abandon software support after 3 years and leave it with Android 10?
What's your take on this, guys?

Miui 13 Come to china firmware but with android 10. Xiaomi was not good to maintain there product and like you i hope have à last update with miui 13 but i not expecting more than that....
For me it's the First and last xiaomi Phone i bought cause i have 2 update i must force..... Expecting more userfreindly experience.
The phone work great again and all the hardware part of this one was good 3 years after.....