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Hello guys, I read somewhere (still trying to get the link) that EMUI 5.1 will soon be coming to Mate 9 with 7.1.1.
Anyone with idea if it is true?
Thanks
its true
but from everywhere ive read itll be in the second half of 2017
zayidhs said:
Hello guys, I read somewhere (still trying to get the link) that EMUI 5.1 will soon be coming to Mate 9 with 7.1.1.
Anyone with idea if it is true?
Thanks
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What's new and improved in 5.1?
aknotts415 said:
What's new and improved in 5.1?
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A lot of things including memory management, predictive touch recognition and response, cleaner, faster with smoother transitions and visuals, improved battery consumption management, probably Nougat 7.1.1 or 7.1.2 and more.
zayidhs said:
A lot of things including memory management, predictive touch recognition and response, cleaner, faster with smoother transitions and visuals, improved battery consumption management, probably Nougat 7.1.1 or 7.1.2 and more.
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Is this a fact or just speculation and wish list?
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Is this a fact or just speculation and wish list?
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There are a few people who already tested a beta version with 5.1 and reported this. I guess they are telling us the truth.
This is answer from EMUI FB:
Hi Krešimir, EMUI 5.1 will not be offered to devices that have EMUI 5.0, EMUI 4.1 or lower systems for now. Please rest assured that some of the new functions from EMUI 5.1 will be built into a debugged, featured-enhanced version of EMUI 5.0 that will be released after June 2017. Thank you for your understanding and patience. Stay tuned.
kpangercic said:
This is answer from EMUI FB:
Hi Krešimir, EMUI 5.1 will not be offered to devices that have EMUI 5.0, EMUI 4.1 or lower systems for now. Please rest assured that some of the new functions from EMUI 5.1 will be built into a debugged, featured-enhanced version of EMUI 5.0 that will be released after June 2017. Thank you for your understanding and patience. Stay tuned.
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that makes sense since everyone on 5.1 beta currently reports EMUI 5.0 in their about phone
Any idea about the build numbers on those phones?
As long as there are updates, I don't mind EMUI 5.0 ?
kleinhev said:
Any idea about the build numbers on those phones?
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I've seen Chinese betas mentioned with Mate 9 MHA-AL00C00B203-log, B205-log and B206-log.. but these are beta builds and most likely dont resemble any public release build numbers... tho going off the current available update build numbers, seem to be on par.. would assume a final build in the 200 number range would be the new EMUI 5.1 features build (and like mentioned, probably still show 5.0 in about phone).
I don't get it. P10 and Honor V9/8 Pro are on EMUI 5.1 and with the same hardware (Kirin 960 CPU/SOC, etc.) as Mate 9 , but Mate 9 which is flagship device by price and by marketing materials/adds distributed by Huawei is not getting full EMUI 5.1, but just some of the features of it and stays on EMUI 5.0.
Where's the logic in that?
why does some random number matter to you?
If it has all the same features and benefits as 5.1, why would you care if its called 5.0. 5.1 or 69.99999???
wase4711 said:
why does some random number matter to you?
If it has all the same features and benefits as 5.1, why would you care if its called 5.0. 5.1 or 69.99999???
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I don't talk about the number, I was reading that the difference is not only the number. I think that Huawei has stated that we will get SOME of the features of 5.1, not all of them.
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Huawei statement from few post's back:
"Hi Krešimir, EMUI 5.1 will not be offered to devices that have EMUI 5.0, EMUI 4.1 or lower systems for now. Please rest assured that some of the new functions from EMUI 5.1 will be built into a debugged, featured-enhanced version of EMUI 5.0 that will be released after June 2017. Thank you for your understanding and patience. Stay tuned."
we'll just have to be patient and see what shows up..
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I don't get it. P10 and Honor V9/8 Pro are on EMUI 5.1 and with the same hardware (Kirin 960 CPU/SOC, etc.) as Mate 9 , but Mate 9 which is flagship device by price and by marketing materials/adds distributed by Huawei is not getting full EMUI 5.1, but just some of the features of it and stays on EMUI 5.0.
Where's the logic in that?
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Used to get the same problem with Samsung devices, the S models would come out with a specific BloatWhiz UI and then the Note model would come out a few months after with a newer BloatWhiz UI but the S models would not get an upgrade to that new UI version... rinse repeat for next years models... Same UI version would stick around, but you would get new Android version and Security patches until such time the next model of that Type would get released, then they'd normally hang you out to dry on new major android versions, but get some security patches...
From what I've read on beta stuff tho - we are getting functionality atleast, if not all of 5.1..
Leighm0 said:
Used to get the same problem with Samsung devices, the S models would come out with a specific BloatWhiz UI and then the Note model would come out a few months after with a newer BloatWhiz UI but the S models would not get an upgrade to that new UI version... rinse repeat for next years models... Same UI version would stick around, but you would get new Android version and Security patches until such time the next model of that Type would get released, then they'd normally hang you out to dry on new major android versions, but get some security patches...
From what I've read on beta stuff tho - we are getting functionality atleast, if not all of 5.1..
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There you have it. This is exactly the problem in Android world. If you buy a device from major Android manufacturer, you can be pretty sure that the support will start to slow down when new flag ship device is launched.
2 years is really the maximum support time for Android devices, except for Google Pixel / Nexus devices.
I don't like Apple or the iOS devices but I have to admit that the support in iWorld is in much better shape than in Android world.
I hope this will be addressed in Google level.
Edit. And Huawei is one of the worst manufacturer in what comes to updates. Two updates in 6 months (even security fixes) happens only for new device launched. Then the support will be gradually ramped down and good luck for getting security updates.
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There you have it. This is exactly the problem in Android world. If you buy a device from major Android manufacturer, you can be pretty sure that the support will start to slow down when new flag ship device is launched.
2 years is really the maximum support time for Android devices, except for Google Pixel / Nexus devices.
I don't like Apple or the iOS devices but I have to admit that the support in iWorld is in much better shape than in Android world.
I hope this will be addressed in Google level.
Edit. And Huawei is one of the worst manufacturer in what comes to updates. Two updates in 6 months (even security fixes) happens only for new device launched. Then the support will be gradually ramped down and good luck for getting security updates.
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Well.. it's really the manufacturer at fault and shouldn't really fall back on Google as they create the software and it's up to Samsung, Huawei, LG, etc to all support it on their devices so if they choose not to do any future updates then that's their choice.. you can't compare to iOS/Apple because their software is only built for their devices and no other manufacturers can make an iOS based device period, so to that degree you could compare it to the Nexus devices or Pixel which run the vanilla Android and get constant upgrades because that's devices that have no UI slapped on top of it and supported by Google and manufacturer hasn't got to make its own custom update with their UI etc
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Well.. it's really the manufacturer at fault and shouldn't really fall back on Google as they create the software and it's up to Samsung, Huawei, LG, etc to all support it on their devices so if they choose not to do any future updates then that's their choice.. you can't compare to iOS/Apple because their software is only built for their devices and no other manufacturers can make an iOS based device period, so to that degree you could compare it to the Nexus devices or Pixel which run the vanilla Android and get constant upgrades because that's devices that have no UI slapped on top of it and supported by Google and manufacturer hasn't got to make its own custom update with their UI etc
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True but you got me wrong
I didn't blame Google for this situation but I hoped that Google would use its muscles to solve the situation.
It is really 3rd party manufacturers fault and they should improve the situation as well.
It's also very common to compare Samsung, LG and Huawei to Apple because they are all trying to sell to same customers.
It is true that Apple is making the HW and SW and that gives a huge lead in integration and updates. However, Google is also providing monthly security updates and it is 3rd party companies responsibility to publish those security updates for their products.
This is not happening currently, or it takes ages to have the update (Huawei)
Owning Google pixel or Nexus is clear advantage, but I would like to see that other manufacturers would concentrate more to serve existing customers.
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sobelixtus said:
True but you got me wrong
I didn't blame Google for this situation but I hoped that Google would use its muscles to solve the situation.
It is really 3rd party manufacturers fault and they should improve the situation as well.
It's also very common to compare Samsung, LG and Huawei to Apple because they are all trying to sell to same customers.
It is true that Apple is making the HW and SW and that gives a huge lead in integration and updates. However, Google is also providing monthly security updates and it is 3rd party companies responsibility to publish those security updates for their products.
This is not happening currently, or it takes ages to have the update (Huawei)
Owning Google pixel or Nexus is clear advantage, but I would like to see that other manufacturers would concentrate more to serve existing customers.
Sorry for offtopic [emoji52]
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Agreed 100% here.. but where I am sitting, I bought my Huawei Mate 9 Pro in Feb, and I know the device was actually out in December, but that aside, I have now managed to pull 2 OTA updates (first when I first turned on the phone at the store installed B139, second was B156 shortly after), and a 3rd is pending authentication (B181, just this weekend) - to me thats quite a few updates.. I don't recall getting 3 updates within first 3-4 months from Samsung when I had my Note 4 (I could be wrong here, but don't recall this amount of OTA from device launch... purchased it within a few weeks of release date, they stopped updating android when Note 5 landed, security updates kept coming tho). I'm more than happy with Huawei so far, and their efforts to release new updates to fix issues people are seeing - tbh I never had many issues and the ones I did have got fixed with the first 2 OTA's.
They do need to work on security fixes and Google should push them to get them out there... case in point - my Samsung Note Pro 12.2 has not had an update in months, and is still on Android 5.1.1, and of course Samsung will not even bother with any new builds, and probably won't get a security update for another 3 months... it's very disappointing that I spent over $1k on a tablet, which will not "officially" run Nougat, tho it probably doesnt need it the device runs perfectly fine as it is - tho we always want the latest and greatest..
"HMD Global has announced the rollout of Android 10 for the Nokia 8.1, making it the first Nokia smartphone to get a stable build of the latest version of Android."
https://m.gsmarena.com/nokia_8_1_android_10_update-news-39549.php
Is this good news for any Android One phone, or Android One project, or is it a matter of manufacturers that build the phones, maybe this could have good effect on development of Android 10 for A2 Lite ?
Nokia always gave timely updates to their devices, this matter doesn't really have any effect on other androidone devices. Nokia also adds other features to their phones (they're all androidone afaik), like round ui, pixel blue accent color and cam2api. As far as updates go, xiaomi isn't that good with their androidone phones, so don't get your hopes up and get frustrated afterwards. I would love to have Android 10 soon but, I know it's not gonna happen. Cheers.
its strictly related to nokia, this. the fact that they will push it sooner then xiaomi means nothing to us. it all depends on Xiaomi when they will start working for it, and when will they release... nokia is known for being faster to update then xiaomi thats for sure. so just sit and wait
...or, you could install unofficial android 10, there is a good GSI version here on xda which works fairly well.
marstonpear said:
Nokia always gave timely updates to their devices, this matter doesn't really have any effect on other androidone devices. Nokia also adds other features to their phones (they're all androidone afaik), like round ui, pixel blue accent color and cam2api. As far as updates go, xiaomi isn't that good with their androidone phones, so don't get your hopes up and get frustrated afterwards. I would love to have Android 10 soon but, I know it's not gonna happen. Cheers.
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My brother is using a Nokia 7 plus and I had Android 9 weeks before him and even with security updates Nokia isn't faster all the time compared to Xiaomi.
I've never managed to get any kind of custom rom working through TWRP because of the kinstalldeviceopenerror.
thorin0815 said:
My brother is using a Nokia 7 plus and I had Android 9 weeks before him and even with security updates Nokia isn't faster all the time compared to Xiaomi.
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Okay let me ask this, do you consider the Pie update we got as stable? Because I still think that we never got a stable build of Pie from Xiaomi. I can't even update to September update because it breaks the digitizer for me and I can't even use the screen properly. I have no idea how stable is Nokia's version of Pie but maybe you can enlighten us about that.
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Okay let me ask this, do you consider the Pie update we got as stable? Because I still think that we never got a stable build of Pie from Xiaomi. I can't even update to September update because it breaks the digitizer for me and I can't even use the screen properly. I have no idea how stable is Nokia's version of Pie but maybe you can enlighten us about that.
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In my eyes our Android Pie is very stable. I never had to reboot my device due to system instability bugs. The worst one I ever had was the screen rotate flash bug. My battery backup after one year of usage is still superb, usually I get 7 hours of screentime within 5-6 days of usage. Most reported bugs appear to be on devices which had installed custom firmware and messed up vendor partitions.
The only thing I dislike on this device is the low headphone sound volume while using a European Union display language. I'm just using U.S. English to fix that.
I don't know about bugs in Nokia phones, my brother never told me about anything special and I can't check his phone because he's in England and I'm in Germany.
Any news for Android 10 update?
perfect_ said:
Any news for Android 10 update?
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Nothing official, but I think q1/2020 would be a good guess.
Last year Mi A1 got the Android 9 update on the 23rd of december.
My guess is Mi A2 Lite will get Android 10 in late december.
Hey People,
Any hope of Android 10 coming now as a christmas present?
Guess we'll find out soon ?
Yeah know it doesn't help :good:
AdrielMetal said:
Hey People,
Any hope of Android 10 coming now as a christmas present?
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Chances for it are rather low.
So basically Android 9 was released by Google on August 6, 2018 and we got the Beta for Pie at the end of November/ beginning of December 2018. Considering that Android 10 was released by Google on May, 2019. We can assume that it takes roughly 3-4 months for the first year Android One phones. Mi A1 got its second Android update (Android 9) at the end of December 2018, which means that it took the Mi A1 4 months to get its second Android update, which means altogether that XIAOMI IS FRICKING LATE AGAIN.
So yeah, I also hope for at least a 10 Beta, but I'm not keeping my hopes up about it. I'd suggest you do the same. Cheers.
Meanwhile I got the MIUI 11 update on my other phone at the end of October. Android One is a joke.
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Meanwhile I got the MIUI 11 update on my other phone at the end of October. Android One is a joke.
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No, this only shows Xiaomi's priorities. They put the best part of their developers to work on MIUI, and leave A1 phones for their spare time.
There was a mention in other thread a while ago about Xiaomi wanting to drop A1 phones all together, but we never got confirmation about it.
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Meanwhile I got the MIUI 11 update on my other phone at the end of October. Android One is a joke.
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It's not necessary for MIUI 11 to have android 10, on my other phone I got MIUI 11 and I still have android 9.
MIUI is Xiaomi's selling point. Android One probably has a relatively low priority and therefore very few manpower, as it produces the least profit. All of their customer support people I had contact with didn't even knew that they sell non MIUI devices.
Edit: Nokia isn't any better. My Nokia 7 Plus usually gets the security updates later than my A2 Lite and Android 10 will not be around until next year as well.
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So basically Android 9 was released by Google on August 6, 2018 and we got the Beta for Pie at the end of November/ beginning of December 2018. Considering that Android 10 was released by Google on May, 2019. We can assume that it takes roughly 3-4 months for the first year Android One phones. Mi A1 got its second Android update (Android 9) at the end of December 2018, which means that it took the Mi A1 4 months to get its second Android update, which means altogether that XIAOMI IS FRICKING LATE AGAIN.
So yeah, I also hope for at least a 10 Beta, but I'm not keeping my hopes up about it. I'd suggest you do the same. Cheers.
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Mi A1 launched with Android 7 which means it doesnt support native Project Treble. On the other side our phone launched with Android 8 which means we must take updates fast than Mi A1.
Even Huawei P Smart 2019 got its Android 10 update. This is real shame for Xiaomi and Google.
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Meanwhile I got the MIUI 11 update on my other phone at the end of October. Android One is a joke.
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I heard MIUI 11 is not at all Android 10 (at least on my father's Redmi Note 7 and neighbor's Redmi Note 8) and Xiaomeme (as we call it since the 'bricking' update of Mi A2) shows that they're really cockteasing Android 10 in most of their devices where in fact it is still Android Pie (at least in developing countries like PHL regions).
And yeah, AndroidOne is not their priorities, even they did not fix bugs, but instead, adding more bugs than what it already have.
Nokia 7.1 get today android 10 update
RFD80M-75679 said:
I heard MIUI 11 is not at all Android 10 (at least on my father's Redmi Note 7 and neighbor's Redmi Note 8) and Xiaomeme (as we call it since the 'bricking' update of Mi A2) shows that they're really cockteasing Android 10 in most of their devices where in fact it is still Android Pie (at least in developing countries like PHL regions).
And yeah, AndroidOne is not their priorities, even they did not fix bugs, but instead, adding more bugs than what it already have.
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My Redmi Note 4 (Mido) got MIUI 11 some weeks ago. On Top of Android 7, no kidding ?
Update on Mi A2 Lite is Joke!
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My Redmi Note 4 (Mido) got MIUI 11 some weeks ago. On Top of Android 7, no kidding
Update on Mi A2 Lite is Joke!
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It's the same case here.. All of my friends got MIUI 11 on top of Android 8 and 9. And here we are waiting for a promised update ..
miloske83 said:
Nokia 7.1 get today android 10 update
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Might be, but my 7 plus will get it 2020.
Are we scammed?
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Are we scammed?
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No. Xiaomi isn't the best when it comes to updates. Guess they don't have the manpower.
Edit: Also most other manufacturers only releases Android 10 updates in this year for their flagships. Mid-range / budget phones are at the bottom of the line.
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Meanwhile I got the MIUI 11 update on my other phone at the end of October. Android One is a joke.
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MIUI 11 It's not an Android update, it's just a Customization layer
andraslate said:
No. Xiaomi isn't the best when it comes to updates. Guess they don't have the manpower.
Edit: Also most other manufacturers only releases Android 10 updates in this year for their flagships. Mid-range / budget phones are at the bottom of the line.
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Do you think Huawei P Smart 2019 is a flagship??? It got Android 10 update!! Plus this phone has heavy bloated UI instead of our phone’s naked Android UI. Huawei updated it before the Xiaomi&Google’s Android One phone.
Google should take action about it. Google can suspend Xiaomi’s Android One licence. Xiaomi intentionally not giving any info about promised update and they still didnt gived any OS update. No one wants to buy a lie!
I thought the whole point of the Android One program was to ensure that the phones received timely updates for 2 years, which would include at least 2 OS updates.
Oh guys, calm down. December update for A2 lite isnt even out and you are talking about bad update policy. Once a month we get a security patch and Android Q is guaranteed for our device.
What do you all expect from a phone that costs 150,- (and now even cheaper)?
Buy a Pixel phone if you want beta and stable versions of the latest android.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1498297242398117893
Until then a flagship 9 series sits on a Nov security patch. Oxygen Os coming
They seriously think leaving everyone on November security update is going to be acceptable? They are really shooting themselves in the foot if they're going to force people to wait close to a year with no new update.
We will get some type of A12 Oxygen operating system and mainly 3-4 security patches before A13 comes.
This literally made my day.
Thanks for sharing the news!
Zethiel said:
This literally made my day.
Thanks for sharing the news!
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This should really help then.
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Hello everyone, this is my first post on this forum.
I was gifted with a hotwav cyber 7 rugged smartphone which I quite like. The only problem Is that when I try to update It, it says that the last available android security update was on 5 October 2021.. is it normal? Is safe to use a device like that? I forgot to say that it has android 11.
Security patches are frequent for phones, and there are easy ways to keep up to date on your phone in particular. But: It's on OEM whether they provide updates published by Google or not. Google can't force anyone to deliver them to you. So you'll need to wait for them to send an update.
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That's the reason why I use Google Pixel phones. Thus latest update I got is security upate released 2023-06-05.
Yes I'd use a different phone too, but this one was a gift. So with that said, is it safe to use a device like that as my main smartphone? Are the security patches that important or the usage of an AntiVirus can make up for the shortage of updates?
IMO antivirus programs aren't beneficial on a smartphone, are senseless crap, only the Android security patches MUST NOT BE IGNORED BUT IMMEDIATELY GET INSTALLED.
FYI: Samsung closes a total of 64 security vulnerabilities in Galaxy devices with the June update.
Got it.. so do you suggest me to get rid of a smartphone with android 11 that had its last update in October '21 and will probably never have further updates?