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[Q] Rom compatibility on regional s6 variants?

I am planning to buy the s6, my country has the 920I model. My question is will there be enough rom support for this variant? As I see the 920F is the global variant, and it will get major support from rom developers. Will the 920F roms run on the 920I version too? I read somewhere that the Roms for the F version can be flashed on the I version by modifying the updater script. Most s5 and Note 4 users follow the updater script technique. How safe is it ? Will there be support from roms like (Liquidsmooth, Temasek, Crdroid, Beanstalk, Slim, DirtyUnicorns, Euphoria)? Any input is appreciated

You will find support limited at best. Most developers will not developer for Samsung devices unless they have the Qualcomm chip which we all know the S6 doesn't. So you may get some support but I know almost for sure that DU won't support it.

zelendel said:
You will find support limited at best. Most developers will not developer for Samsung devices unless they have the Qualcomm chip which we all know the S6 doesn't. So you may get some support but I know almost for sure that DU won't support it.
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Lol. I had a s3, exynos chip and DU supported it although I do not like DU. Well, the good thing is that there is no snapdragon variant, so ROM support will be universal. The question is the global version is 920F, and there will be a 920I version in my country. Will the F version roms be install friendly on the I version? I saw the note 4 forums and some people were able to flash roms by changing the updater script.

Siddheshpatil said:
Lol. I had a s3, exynos chip and DU supported it although I do not like DU. Well, the good thing is that there is no snapdragon variant, so ROM support will be universal. The question is the global version is 920F, and there will be a 920I version in my country. Will the F version roms be install friendly on the I version? I saw the note 4 forums and some people were able to flash roms by changing the updater script.
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That was when people trusted Samsung. Once They lied to people about offering the Documentation on the device so roms would work properly people walked away from them.
Will they be universal? No one can say for sure until they start getting the devices. The updater script works but you run a huge risk when doing something like that.

zelendel said:
That was when people trusted Samsung. Once They lied to people about offering the Documentation on the device so roms would work properly people walked away from them.
Will they be universal? No one can say for sure until they start getting the devices. The updater script works but you run a huge risk when doing something like that.
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well, Looks like I dont have many options then. I cannot have my Nexus 6 because of Uneven display, I can buy the one plus one but it is a year old. There are no good developer friendly phones out there

Siddheshpatil said:
well, [emoji14] Looks like I dont have many options then. I cannot have my Nexus 6 because of Uneven display, I can buy the one plus one but it is a year old. There are no good developer friendly phones out there
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So what if it is year old? The hardware is still good. Heck my 2 devices are 3 and 4 years old.
There are many great developers devices still out there. The newest device is not always the best device. But if your looking for a device that will most likely see lots of development then you could look at the m9.

zelendel said:
So what if it is year old? The hardware is still good. Heck my 2 devices are 3 and 4 years old.
There are many great developers devices still out there. The newest device is not always the best device. But if your looking for a device that will most likely see lots of development then you could look at the m9.
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Naah, not htc. You do have a point, even if it's a year old it is still a good device and reasonably priced almost half that of n6 with double storage capacity. I heard rumors of oneplus two coming this april. I dont know how true those are but looks like opo is the best option to go with right now, it has a lot of rom development going on.

Siddheshpatil said:
Naah, not htc. You do have a point, even if it's a year old it is still a good device and reasonably priced almost half that of n6 with double storage capacity. I heard rumors of oneplus two coming this april. I dont know how true those are but looks like opo is the best option to go with right now, it has a lot of rom development going on.
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I heard it is as well. I have been keeping an eye on them for a while and almost bought one but after they got some of the PA team to work on the rom I changed my mind.

Dev on S6 !!!

hello
i just pre order my S6 this week end
i quit my HTC one M7 and the M9 dont interest me in term of design and fonctionality
so it my first Samsung , i always have HTC phone
so i want to know if the dev comunity is active on Samsung device (custom roms , etc.... ) ????
thx in advance for reply :good:

Off course my friend just wait till its officially released and ull see the development for this beast

demmo81 said:
Off course my friend just wait till its officially released and ull see the development for this beast
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I have a M7 currently, and I will most likely get a SGS6. Modding HTC (unlocking/rooting/custom roms & kernels) is fairly easy. How does Sammy compare to HTC? I read it's a bit more difficult for you guys. True?
I've read Sammy's with Qualcomm chips are easier to mod than the Exynos variants. True?
I've also read Samsung takes awhile to release latest kernel sources. True?
Hopefully someone can answer these questions. First Samsung TW device. My previous smartphones are in my sig.

I wouldn't really count on the development on S6 being active. You can at the very least take a look at the Galaxy S5 G900H which is the exynos variant of the S5 which barely recieve any support from developers.
Well there are ROM chefs at least but developers are close to nil.

Riyal said:
I wouldn't really count on the development on S6 being active. You can at the very least take a look at the Galaxy S5 G900H which is the exynos variant of the S5 which barely recieve any support from developers.
Well there are ROM chefs at least but developers are close to nil.
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Difference is that the S6 will ONLY be Exynos, so everyone will have the Exynos version (more users/devs), of course. With the S5, most ppl had the Qualcomm variant correct? So more users/devs for the Qualcomm version.

In the last few years, generally speaking Samsung devices with Exynos SoCs have only had fully-functional custom ROMs based on TouchWiz, but ROMs based on AOSP or CyanogenMod have had unsolvable problems with the camera, sound driver's, etc. The bottom line is, if you buy a Samsung, make sure you are perfectly content with TouchWiz or broken ROMs.

Well I heard that samsung is also planning on releasing snapdragon based s6 sometime in the future? I'm not sure as I lost my interest in s6 after they confirmed that there's no sdcard in s6. Also if development is really a big deal for you when purchasing the S6 then I say better wait first before jumping. We don't know yet if there are indeed devs willing to take on the galaxy s6 for development. For now so far I haven't heard anyone willing to unlike on HTC and other devices devs are already swarming the forums even if the device is not yet released. So if I were you... Wait a couple of weeks and observe the development progress here in the forums. If it recieves enough to get your interest then purchase one and if you're lucky enough a price drop might happen before you get your device.
J-Hop2o6 said:
Difference is that the S6 will ONLY be Exynos, so everyone will have the Exynos version (more users/devs), of course. With the S5, most ppl had the Qualcomm variant correct? So more users/devs for the Qualcomm version.
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Yes this is what I'm talking about... There are only ROM chefs(those who specialize in modifying the stock ROM) rather than developers(those who develop custom ROMs from source code) The problem here is that Samsung won't release the "full" source code of their exynos chipsets hence any drivers that's communicating in the SoC can't be recompiled against other ROMs.
As far as I know only 1 custom kernel has been released on the G900H S5 and that barely even got any progress at all even if it's just a plain TW kernel.
CafeKampuchia said:
In the last few years, generally speaking Samsung devices with Exynos SoCs have only had fully-functional custom ROMs based on TouchWiz, but ROMs based on AOSP or CyanogenMod have had unsolvable problems with the camera, sound driver's, etc. The bottom line is, if you buy a Samsung, make sure you are perfectly content with TouchWiz or broken ROMs.
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Look at s3 for closest example
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Ave666 said:
Look at s3 for closest example
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Is the s3 a exynos only device also?

Riyal said:
Is the s3 a exynos only device also?
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Yes, exynos 4412

CafeKampuchia said:
In the last few years, generally speaking Samsung devices with Exynos SoCs have only had fully-functional custom ROMs based on TouchWiz, but ROMs based on AOSP or CyanogenMod have had unsolvable problems with the camera, sound driver's, etc. The bottom line is, if you buy a Samsung, make sure you are perfectly content with TouchWiz or broken ROMs.
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I mostly use roms which the devices was made for. Like the M7, I stuck with Sense roms. If I get the SGS6, I will stick with TW. The reason I stick with what the phone was made for is because of less bugs, and the camera is always better on the original sw, etc. So modded stock roms is what I usually go for. Hopefully some good stuff for the SGS6 in the near-future, especially since it will be a popular device.
Riyal said:
Well I heard that samsung is also planning on releasing snapdragon based s6 sometime in the future? I'm not sure as I lost my interest in s6 after they confirmed that there's no sdcard in s6. Also if development is really a big deal for you when purchasing the S6 then I say better wait first before jumping. We don't know yet if there are indeed devs willing to take on the galaxy s6 for development. For now so far I haven't heard anyone willing to unlike on HTC and other devices devs are already swarming the forums even if the device is not yet released. So if I were you... Wait a couple of weeks and observe the development progress here in the forums. If it recieves enough to get your interest then purchase one and if you're lucky enough a price drop might happen before you get your device.
Yes this is what I'm talking about... There are only ROM chefs(those who specialize in modifying the stock ROM) rather than developers(those who develop custom ROMs from source code) The problem here is that Samsung won't release the "full" source code of their exynos chipsets hence any drivers that's communicating in the SoC can't be recompiled against other ROMs.
As far as I know only 1 custom kernel has been released on the G900H S5 and that barely even got any progress at all even if it's just a plain TW kernel.
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Yea, i'm patiently waiting for some big news on the 3rd party support. Modded stock rom is what I was going for, not AOSP roms. I always like using what the device was made for. In this case, TW. Same with my M7, Sense. So is it still difficult for the Chefs to work on the stock rom because of Exynos (and other reasons?). Or is it sort of painless? And that does suck about the S5 (Exynos varient?) kernel situation =(

elia222 said:
Yes, exynos 4412
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Also with Legendary S2

Ave666 said:
Also with Legendary S2
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Also note 2
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J-Hop2o6 said:
I mostly use roms which the devices was made for. Like the M7, I stuck with Sense roms. If I get the SGS6, I will stick with TW. The reason I stick with what the phone was made for is because of less bugs, and the camera is always better on the original sw, etc. So modded stock roms is what I usually go for. Hopefully some good stuff for the SGS6 in the near-future, especially since it will be a popular device.
Yea, i'm patiently waiting for some big news on the 3rd party support. Modded stock rom is what I was going for, not AOSP roms. I always like using what the device was made for. In this case, TW. Same with my M7, Sense. So is it still difficult for the Chefs to work on the stock rom because of Exynos (and other reasons?). Or is it sort of painless? And that does suck about the S5 (Exynos varient?) kernel situation =(
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If it's just modded stock ROM you're after then you shouldn't have any problems then...

I have to admit I'm a little jealous going over to the m9 forum and seeing it full of roms already

I highly doubt the bootloader will be unlockable on the S6, greatly limiting options. No one has figured out how to unlock the S5 yet.
Unless they release a developer edition on the S6, I would prepare to have root, and possibly SafeStrap, at best.

cambunch said:
I highly doubt the bootloader will be unlockable on the S6, greatly limiting options. No one has figured out how to unlock the S5 yet.
Unless they release a developer edition on the S6, I would prepare to have root, and possibly SafeStrap, at best.
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Tmobile version and international have unlockable bootloaders. This phone is the reason why I switched to tmobile from at&t.

NJGSII said:
Tmobile version and international have unlockable bootloaders. This phone is the reason why I switched to tmobile from at&t.
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Oh, I wasn't aware of that. I'm on Verizon's user-unfriendly network.

NJGSII said:
Tmobile version and international have unlockable bootloaders. This phone is the reason why I switched to tmobile from at&t.
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Sprint on the S5 is unlocked as well. The locked bootloader is usually the carrier being difficult, Verizon/AT&T.
My bet is 3-4 months for a patchwork AOSP.

cambunch said:
Oh, I wasn't aware of that. I'm on Verizon's user-unfriendly network.
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Yeah you have those versions you'll mostly sol when it comes to development.

How will the different SOCs affect ROMs and stuff?

Hi!
Now it seems confrimed, that the EU version of the Galaxy S7 will have the Exynos 8890 while (all?) other countrys will have the Snapdragon 820. Are there any predictions how that will affect the development for the phone? If i remember correctly there were examples in the past where phones came with different SOCs, does anyone know about the issues that came from that?
Im living in the EU so i wouldnt buy the phone if there are no Custom-Roms available since everyone is using the SD820 variant here...

The Snapdragon in my opinion will be more custom ROM friendly. CM ports, AOSP etc... The exynos processor are always behind.

Elthy said:
Hi!
Now it seems confrimed, that the EU version of the Galaxy S7 will have the Exynos 8890 while (all?) other countrys will have the Snapdragon 820. Are there any predictions how that will affect the development for the phone? If i remember correctly there were examples in the past where phones came with different SOCs, does anyone know about the issues that came from that?
Im living in the EU so i wouldnt buy the phone if there are no Custom-Roms available since everyone is using the SD820 variant here...
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The only difference is the AOSP ROMs, if you want CM and those crappy things you should get the SD820 version.

dandroid13 said:
The only difference is the AOSP ROMs, if you want CM and those crappy things you should get the SD820 version.
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So we shouldnt worry if we don't care about cm? Because I don't. Although I like the gpe rom on my htc m8 though ...
I'm looking to get the S7 Edge but think it would be too much of a hassle to import the SD820 Variant only because of flashing different ROMs

snap 820 will be better, sad in my country(brazil) only will have exynos trash version

Why did they make two variants in the first place ?

how about Exynos and just plain root?
I would settle with stock FW and basic root, so I could run Titanium, etc

I dont want Touchwiz, i remeber what it did to my brothers Galaxy S3 and even the S6 seems to have issues. Also i would like to try cm....

GyroFalcon said:
how about Exynos and just plain root?
I would settle with stock FW and basic root, so I could run Titanium, etc
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Exynos-models are often root:able just like their snapdragon brethren, it's just that snapdragon phones are usually a lot more developer-friendly.

dandroid13 said:
The only difference is the AOSP ROMs, if you want CM and those crappy things you should get the SD820 version.
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I've had the Note 5 since it came out and it's gotten very little development, more than likely because of the processor. Only thing we're seeing are the debloated ones with a few tweaks and one or two kernel options. So it hasn't been horrible, but none of the TRUE custom roms have been available. So I wouldn't even risk it with the Exynos processor if you're truly interested in the devs getting involved heavily.

mrbigdrawsz said:
I've had the Note 5 since it came out and it's gotten very little development, more than likely because of the processor. Only thing we're seeing are the debloated ones with a few tweaks and one or two kernel options. So it hasn't been horrible, but none of the TRUE custom roms have been available. So I wouldn't even risk it with the Exynos processor if you're truly interested in the devs getting involved heavily.
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If really have 2 version and usa receive sd820 all exynos users will be dammed. Same thing happen in s4

matheus_sc said:
If really have 2 version and usa receive sd820 all exynos users will be dammed. Same thing happen in s4
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Confirmed that US will get the SnapDragon. So S7 Edge it is.

Eezay said:
So we shouldnt worry if we don't care about cm? Because I don't. Although I like the gpe rom on my htc m8 though ...
I'm looking to get the S7 Edge but think it would be too much of a hassle to import the SD820 Variant only because of flashing different ROMs
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Yeah, if you're ok with TW then it's fine, Samsung devices generally get many custom TW ROMs and kernels.
mrbigdrawsz said:
I've had the Note 5 since it came out and it's gotten very little development, more than likely because of the processor. Only thing we're seeing are the debloated ones with a few tweaks and one or two kernel options. So it hasn't been horrible, but none of the TRUE custom roms have been available. So I wouldn't even risk it with the Exynos processor if you're truly interested in the devs getting involved heavily.
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Sure, there is a little less dev involvment, but why ruin your device with an always-beta AOSP ROM? But there's a catch, you can't convert your carrier branded phone to unlocked, maybe that's why your phone has less devs. But still, other than AOSP, the S6 has it all, TW ROMs, kernels, mods...

dandroid13 said:
Yeah, if you're ok with TW then it's fine, Samsung devices generally get many custom TW ROMs and kernels.
Sure, there is a little less dev involvment, but why ruin your device with an always-beta AOSP ROM? But there's a catch, you can't convert your carrier branded phone to unlocked, maybe that's why your phone has less devs. But still, other than AOSP, the S6 has it all, TW ROMs, kernels, mods...
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Well, I'm a "Serial Flasher" so I like having the wide variety of options. Unlocked doesn't mean much if the processor is the issues (which was the problem with the Note 5). Still had only TW type ROM's. Again, there were a few, but their base was still TW. For those who like closer to a pure Google experience, then you need the development if you don't already have a Nexus device (which I'll definitely be picking up this go around).
Just all about what you want. Nothing is bad, I love my Note 5. But just as far as development, I've been disappointed.

mrbigdrawsz said:
Well, I'm a "Serial Flasher" so I like having the wide variety of options. Unlocked doesn't mean much if the processor is the issues (which was the problem with the Note 5). Still had only TW type ROM's. Again, there were a few, but their base was still TW. For those who like closer to a pure Google experience, then you need the development if you don't already have a Nexus device (which I'll definitely be picking up this go around).
Just all about what you want. Nothing is bad, I love my Note 5. But just as far as development, I've been disappointed.
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Yeah, there are no AOSP ROMs for the 7420 really, but they usually suck anyway. I had a Galaxy Nexus and the only thing good about it was the fast updates, no more Nexus for me. Better have a full featured TW phone than a half-ass baked ROM made by some snob cooker who thinks he's better than everyone just because he's a "dev".

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Yeah, there are no AOSP ROMs for the 7420 really, but they usually suck anyway. I had a Galaxy Nexus and the only thing good about it was the fast updates, no more Nexus for me. Better have a full featured TW phone than a half-ass baked ROM made by some snob cooker who thinks he's better than everyone just because he's a "dev".
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Now I can't argue that I've run into some devs who were assholes. But overall the community has been very cool. And a lot of these roms (especially some of the big boy groups) are very clean and stable. Not many complaints about the roms at all! I stick to the people I know and might try a new one here or there. But I've been more than happy with my AOSP experiences.

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Now I can't argue that I've run into some devs who were assholes. But overall the community has been very cool. And a lot of these roms (especially some of the big boy groups) are very clean and stable. Not many complaints about the roms at all! I stick to the people I know and might try a new one here or there. But I've been more than happy with my AOSP experiences.
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Agreed! I come to XDA for trying out new ROMs and mods for my phones whether that's TW, AOSP or CM. The reliable devs are almost always friendly and only get peeved when people ask the same questions without searching for an answer first. Been on and off XDA since my Galaxy S2 and never regretted a single flash.

I am also very interested in this question. I have already pre-ordered the S7. But i'll get the Exynos version.
Seriously considering canceling that order and import a 820. Or maybe i'll hang onto it for the first two weeks and send it back if TW is as bad as i fear. Always dreamed about a galaxy devices running stock android....

zcubed said:
Agreed! I come to XDA for trying out new ROMs and mods for my phones whether that's TW, AOSP or CM. The reliable devs are almost always friendly and only get peeved when people ask the same questions without searching for an answer first. Been on and off XDA since my Galaxy S2 and never regretted a single flash.
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I regret having bought a Nexus, stock Android is boring, and that hardware was crap, any lwp would make it lag lol.

dandroid13 said:
I regret having bought a Nexus, stock Android is boring, and that hardware was crap, any lwp would make it lag lol.
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No one is forced to stay 'stock'. You can easily download one of many amazing launchers on the play store. Also most TW "features" can be replicated through some app or Xposed.

Why there are no custom projects for our device?

Although the kernel source is available, there aren't any projects, custom roms/kernels, no miui modifications and barely working custom recovery.. I get it the device is new but so are other devices that have so much projects... But why is our device so empty? I bet it has a huge potential for custom teams..

Xiaomi isn't interested in actively supporting independent ROM development for their devices. The reason there is a lot of development for One Plus phones is that One Plus sends free phones to developers. Xiaomi does not do that and wants its customers to use the stock ROM. Official LOS is supposedly in development for the Mix 2S but if you need custom ROMs you bought the wrong phone. In the future you should probably see what the development thread looks like before buying.

What about other Xiaomi devices? They have custom support.

Well the custom recovery is actually working pretty good. You can use the treble roms, rr is daily driver ready... Currently there are people working on aosp for our device, when we have a working aosp other roms will follow based on it

If you look into how many devices were sold, you'll figure out why so little development.

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If you look into how many devices were sold, you'll figure out why so little development.
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I can see that, but it's definitely surprising how few official developer ROMs (zero) have been released since this phone has been in existence. I know it's been stated that developers are working on it, but I haven't seen anything.

The camera is the constraining factor. No point having a good custom ROM if there is no GCam or MIUI camera port because you could have got a much cheaper phone if you don't care about camera.
I really regret buying this buggy device. Last time I buy something that doesn't run stock Android out of the box.

mike freegan said:
The camera is the constraining factor. No point having a good custom ROM if there is no GCam or MIUI camera port because you could have got a much cheaper phone if you don't care about camera.
I really regret buying this buggy device. Last time I buy something that doesn't run stock Android out of the box.
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So you say people buy this phone only because of the good camera?
What cheaper phone could you get with the same performance as 845?
MIUI port already exist, yes for other devices, but it can be made for 2S with a finger snap. Devs just don't have interest in this device, sadly..

pi4a7a said:
So you say people buy this phone only because of the good camera?
What cheaper phone could you get with the same performance as 845?
MIUI port already exist, yes for other devices, but it can be made for 2S with a finger snap. Devs just don't have interest in this device, sadly..
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I do not care about processor. I just wanted full-screen with no notch and a good camera.

No custom roms for asus 6z?

Its strange that there are no devs for this phone? Or its under development?
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Well, we were waiting on you to create one... why isn't it out yet?

Asus devices don't attract much devs (check 5z thread) all devs this year took a op7 pro. By far only op7pro is sd855 device that has multiple custom roms. Mi 9, op7, s10, k20pro nothing so far

DevilRockr said:
Asus devices don't attract much devs (check 5z thread) all devs this year took a op7 pro. By far only op7pro is sd855 device that has multiple custom roms. Mi 9, op7, s10, k20pro nothing so far
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Mi 9 has official Pixel Experience.
Z6 is out for a very short time, not even released on many markets. I think it's gonna have good ROM scene as Asus sent the phones to Arnova, LineageOS devs and others.
https://www.xda-developers.com/asus-zenfone-6-custom-rom-twrp-lineageos/

DevilRockr said:
Asus devices don't attract much devs (check 5z thread) all devs this year took a op7 pro. By far only op7pro is sd855 device that has multiple custom roms. Mi 9, op7, s10, k20pro nothing so far
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5z has issue with the source code for RIL.
Eventually, they manage to get it working. Now many custom rom will follow soon.

mickey36736 said:
5z has issue with the source code for RIL.
Eventually, they manage to get it working. Now many custom rom will follow soon.
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I hope man, i can see how community is dying comparing to golden days of galaxy s3, nexus 5, s4 miss those days man?

I hope this phone will finally get good support from developers, now I'm consider if I should buy OP 7 pro with its many issues but great support or go for Zenfone 6...

sonderling said:
I hope this phone will finally get good support from developers, now I'm consider if I should buy OP 7 pro with its many issues but great support or go for Zenfone 6...
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A bunch of developers received free phones a month or so ago
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.xda-developers.com/asus-zenfone-6-custom-rom-twrp-lineageos/amp/
I guess that with so few phones in the hands of consumers things might take a while to get going....

jeremyet said:
A bunch of developers received free phones a month or so ago
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.xda-developers.com/asus-zenfone-6-custom-rom-twrp-lineageos/amp/
I guess that with so few phones in the hands of consumers things might take a while to get going....
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Yep, I've heard about that sometime ago... But till now, I don't see that the support has increased.

I can't talk about Z6 in particular, but lack of Roms for many devices is one massive problem these days. In the past we had a dozen of popular devices on the market and everyone was developing Roms and keep them updated. Today we have hundreds of different devices available, so it's nearly impossible to develop Roms and keep them updated to most of the devices.
I wish it was like 5/10 years ago when we had no problems at all deciding which device we should buy and had a lot of available Roms for them.

Support for the Zenfone 6 is coming as Asus is changing their politics towards custom development. It will come, just let's encourage the devs!

There's a rom just released
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