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Hi All,
Need help of this forum in solving a problem. The problem is in two parts.
1. I need to gain root access on my 7.1.1 on Merlin.
So can i use adb to gain root access ? Learnt something like this from giving elevated access to Greenify for doze. Can someone point to the right direction so that i can learn it to do myself and not depend on third party apps.
2. I have given administrator usages to Airwatch Agent which monitors whether i have root or not. If i gain root access then i lose the service and wont be able to view configured mails. So basically i need to root and not let all the apps know i have root. Somehow hide it.
Please guide. Thanks in advance.
deepray said:
Hi All,
Need help of this forum in solving a problem. The problem is in two parts.
1. I need to gain root access on my 7.1.1 on Merlin.
So can i use adb to gain root access ? Learnt something like this from giving elevated access to Greenify for doze. Can someone point to the right direction so that i can learn it to do myself and not depend on third party apps.
2. I have given administrator usages to Airwatch Agent which monitors whether i have root or not. If i gain root access then i lose the service and wont be able to view configured mails. So basically i need to root and not let all the apps know i have root. Somehow hide it.
Please guide. Thanks in advance.
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Well, basically you are not going to get around AirWatch knowing you are rooted, even with Magisk if their Air Watch server is relatively current... I have tried and tried this (we sell and administer Airwatch for ourselves and lots of customers). Airwatch has been specifically designed to detect King*Root, SuperSU, and Magisk (and it's iPhone equivalents), and it uses far more advanced detection schemes than just SafetyNet, so far it hasn't been bypassed that we have seen on Android 6 and higher devices... (Android 5.1 and older have a different mechanism for bypassing root detection from Airwatch that apparently isn't possible with Marshmallow and higher). Also be aware that Airwatch will flag any device on a custom ROM of any kind too (rooted or not) as an incompatible device.
I don't think there is sufficient need for a detection bypass to be implemented into Magisk for Airwatch, and I am not sure the developers would even consider it, since it would be more about getting around a corporate security policy you agreed too more than just getting around some stupid restrictions from the Play Store or an app developer, but hey, it's worth a shot to ask I guess.
Getting around most apps knowing you have root is pretty simple with Magisk, but Airwatch and some of it's competitors MDM applications are much tougher to deal with.
To be honest you are better to just let Greenify go or to get a separate cheapo device just for your corporate email and keep root on your personal device.
Thats insightful.
Thanks a lot for the comments. I however have not seen Airwatch revoking my device enrollment even when i am running a custom ROM. It just checks whether i have root or not.
And can you guide how to use Magisk to root my Nougat on merlin.
deepray said:
Thanks a lot for the comments. I however have not seen Airwatch revoking my device enrollment even when i am running a custom ROM. It just checks whether i have root or not.
And can you guide how to use Magisk to root my Nougat on merlin.
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Download Magisk and flash it... If your running a custom ROM with SuperSU or some other root built in, might want to ask in your ROM thread to see the right process.
Odd a custom ROM doesn't do anything weird... We have tried several ROM's on our Nexus device and every one will not allow device enrollment.
Confused
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Download Magisk and flash it... If your running a custom ROM with SuperSU or some other root built in, might want to ask in your ROM thread to see the right process.
Odd a custom ROM doesn't do anything weird... We have tried several ROM's on our Nexus device and every one will not allow device enrollment.
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I flashed magisk. It rooted my device. Could use greenify with root and lucky patcher with root too. Which means i have got root access. Now comes Airwatch Agent. It asked for root access And i denied it. So now my device is not unenrolled and i am able to use configured mails successfully. Happy. But confused.
deepray said:
I flashed magisk. It rooted my device. Could use greenify with root and lucky patcher with root too. Which means i have got root access. Now comes Airwatch Agent. It asked for root access And i denied it. So now my device is not unenrolled and i am able to use configured mails successfully. Happy. But confused.
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So latest Magisk is not seen by AirWatch... Nice. I'll have to play with it again.
But there's a new problem now.
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So latest Magisk is not seen by AirWatch... Nice. I'll have to play with it again.
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I lost the root. Dont know why. I actually tried installing supersu from playstore which asked something like- do you want to copy binaries to somwhere and i said yes. To that effect my device was unenrolled by Airwatch Agent. Then i removed supersu and i was able to enrol my device again. But the next morning i am noy rooted anymore. Lucky patcher says root is not stable. Don't know what to do.
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I lost the root. Dont know why. I actually tried installing supersu from playstore which asked something like- do you want to copy binaries to somwhere and i said yes. To that effect my device was unenrolled by Airwatch Agent. Then i removed supersu and i was able to enrol my device again. But the next morning i am noy rooted anymore. Lucky patcher says root is not stable. Don't know what to do.
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You can't mix SuperSU and Magisk... after you flash Magisk you need to install Magisk Manager, but it isn't in the Play Store.
And BTW, don't mention Lucky Patcher here... that is purely a pirating app and users of it are thieves.
I will not assist you with anything to do with that software.
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You can't mix SuperSU and Magisk... after you flash Magisk you need to install Magisk Manager, but it isn't in the Play Store.
And BTW, don't mention Lucky Patcher here... that is purely a pirating app and users of it are thieves.
I will not assist you with anything to do with that software.
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I am sorry if i offended the community. I installed it as a means to achieve background play of YouTube as till Marshmallow, this was beautifully done by xposed mods. But as for Nougat as xposed is still in development, i needed that app.
I was not aware of other uses of that app. Nor do i have any further intention. Actually i tried using OG Youtube and the other app which was needed but that provided for popup only. Hope you understand.
deepray said:
I am sorry if i offended the community. I installed it as a means to achieve background play of YouTube as till Marshmallow, this was beautifully done by xposed mods. But as for Nougat as xposed is still in development, i needed that app.
I was not aware of other uses of that app. Nor do i have any further intention. Actually i tried using OG Youtube and the other app which was needed but that provided for popup only. Hope you understand.
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Not really... Background playback on YouTube is a paid service, no matter how you bypass that it's stealing.
Trust me, I don't like it either but I'm not going to steal the service
acejavelin said:
Not really... Background playback on YouTube is a paid service, no matter how you bypass that it's stealing.
Trust me, I don't like it either but I'm not going to steal the service
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Got the message. I found it difficult to draw the line though.
Hi,
Hope you can help, if I root with super su for just change build pro settings, and then full unroot, will I keep the changes?? Or there is a another way to change build prop variable without root? I'm in G930F Nougat stock rom
Thanks
Yes the changes will remain if you unroot but why would you? You have already tripped KNOX etc by rooting in the first place, and your system status will remain 'Custom', so things like banking apps will likely still fail to work
No you can't change system files without root, build.prop is a system file
*Detection* said:
Yes the changes will remain if you unroot but why would you? You have already tripped KNOX etc by rooting in the first place, and your system status will remain 'Custom', so things like banking apps will likely still fail to work
No you can't change system files without root, build.prop is a system file
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Thanks you so much for your answer, it's exactly because some video apps and banking as you said not work with root and they are essential for me. The problem is, I'm root since a long time, s health just work editing build prop, and since a few months ago, some apps like my bank, and video apps stop working because of root, and I need both things now, and I remember that before root(with already Knox tripped) they work fine.
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Thanks you so much for your answer, it's exactly because some video apps and banking as you said not work with root and they are essential for me. The problem is, I'm root since a long time, s health just work editing build prop, and since a few months ago, some apps like my bank, and video apps stop working because of root, and I need both things now, and I remember that before root(with already Knox tripped) they work fine.
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AFAIK, these apps just don't open anymore because of the SafetyNet profile missmatch you get when rooted (You can download an app like "SafetyNet Helper Sample" from Play Store to view your current SafetyNet status).
Apps like Snapchat, PokemonGO, my local banking app,.. use this technology, rather than the "custom" mark or the tripped knox.
So in my opinion you have three options now:
Use Magisk
When rooted with MagiskSU, your phone will still pass the SafetyNet Profile match, which will let you use your apps and root.
Root -> make your changes -> unroot
When you're completely unrooted you will once again pass the SafetyNet
(Probably doesn't work for you)Unroot -> Prepare Apps -> root again
Apps like Snapchat just check your SafetyNet status at login. That means when you're not rooted, you can log in to Snapchat, when you root afterwards (without a wipe of course) you're still logged in, even tho your phone wouldn't pass SafetyNet atm.
jaannnis said:
AFAIK, these apps just don't open anymore because of the SafetyNet profile missmatch you get when rooted (You can download an app like "SafetyNet Helper Sample" from Play Store to view your current SafetyNet status).
Apps like Snapchat, PokemonGO, my local banking app,.. use this technology, rather than the "custom" mark or the tripped knox.
So in my opinion you have three options now:
Use Magisk
When rooted with MagiskSU, your phone will still pass the SafetyNet Profile match, which will let you use your apps and root.
Root -> make your changes -> unroot
When you're completely unrooted you will once again pass the SafetyNet
(Probably doesn't work for you)Unroot -> Prepare Apps -> root again
Apps like Snapchat just check your SafetyNet status at login. That means when you're not rooted, you can log in to Snapchat, when you root afterwards (without a wipe of course) you're still logged in, even tho your phone wouldn't pass SafetyNet atm.
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Thanks my friend I will try, because now I'm root with Magisk and with Magisk hide and does not work even with safety net pass
speechgotham3 said:
Thanks my friend I will try, because now I'm root with Magisk and with Magisk hide and does not work even with safety net pass
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Which version of Magisk are you using?
What is the result of the SafetyNet Sample App?
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Which version of Magisk are you using?
What is the result of the SafetyNet Sample App?
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The latest one
Attach you an image
Thanks for your help
speechgotham3 said:
The latest one
Attach you an image
Thanks for your help
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You could try installing the newest beta, which is 13.6, but I don't really believe this resolves your problem. You can get it from here: Magisk Beta Thread
"Can't load Android system" and "Factory data reset" tried and does not work
Hi all,
I bought a Pixel 3a, unlocked the bootloader, upgraded it to Android 10, and then tried to root it with Magisk. I must somehow have missed a step because now the phone only boots to:
Android Recovery
google/sargo/sargo
9/PQ3B.190801.002/5674421
user/release-keys
Use volume up/down and power.
Can't load Android system. Your data may be corrupt. If you continue to get this message, you may need to perform a factory data reset and erase all user data stored on this device.
Try again
Factory data reset
If I "Try again" I end up in the same place after a long time with the Google logo and a reboot. If I "Factory data reset" I also end up in the same place.
My desktop has adb and fastboot, and was able to access the phone until the failed attempt at rooting. Now it does not detect the phone despite the system "bleeping" as if it has found a new device:
>adb devices
* daemon not running; starting now at tcp:5037
* daemon started successfully
List of devices attached
>adb devices
List of devices attached
Is there a way out of this mess?
FD
You're still on P by what recovery says. 0801 image. PQ3B is P. You want QP1A. Please try downloading the recent Q image and follow the official instructions from Google in the link and try again.
https://developers.google.com/android/images
Uzephi said:
You're still on P by what recovery says. 0801 image. PQ3B is P. You want QP1A. Please try downloading the recent Q image and follow the official instructions from Google in the link and try again.
https://developers.google.com/android/images
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Thank you very much! Using the flash-all script I have managed to get my phone back. I have flashed the original Android 9 the phone came with.
Now, one further question, are there some good (as in unlikely to brick my phone again) instructions on how to root my Pixel 3a? I believe that Android 9 is preferred when using Magisk to Android 10, and I do not mind staying with Android 9, but I would like some instructions on how to root it without bricking it again.
Again, thanks for your prompt reply.
Yours,
FD
Frederick Davies said:
Thank you very much! Using the flash-all script I have managed to get my phone back. I have flashed the original Android 9 the phone came with.
Now, one further question, are there some good (as in unlikely to brick my phone again) instructions on how to root my Pixel 3a? I believe that Android 9 is preferred when using Magisk to Android 10, and I do not mind staying with Android 9, but I would like some instructions on how to root it without bricking it again.
Again, thanks for your prompt reply.
Yours,
FD
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I followed this guide. it's for a pixel 3 but it's exactly the same for a 3a. There is no TWRP for 10 so doing it this way is the only way for now.
https://android.gadgethacks.com/how-to/root-your-pixel-3-android-10-0200295/
Just use magisk to patch Android 10 boot IMG and Flash it and your rooted on Android 10
Frederick Davies said:
Now, one further question, are there some good (as in unlikely to brick my phone again) instructions on how to root my Pixel 3a? I believe that Android 9 is preferred when using Magisk to Android 10, and I do not mind staying with Android 9, but I would like some instructions on how to root it without bricking it again.
Again, thanks for your prompt reply.
Yours,
FD
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I have created a (IMHO) very thorough quide on how to root your Pixel 3a. It walks you through rooting with both Android Pie and Android 10 with very clear and precise steps. If you have any questions about it, feel free to post in that thread or reach out to me via a direct message.
There is no limitation on using Magisk or rooting under Android 10. The only thing you cannot do with Android 10 is use TWRP, but that isn't a deal breaker. TWRP is good for making backups of your OS, but as you have found you can still recover from just about any situation using the Google factory images, so while a backup might be beneficial at times, it isn't a necessity. Personally I would definitely recommend using Android 10 because Pie isn't being updated by Google anymore, so you are going to be behind on security updates, etc if you stick with Pie.
Watch this video and you shouldn't have any problems
sic0048 said:
I have created a (IMHO) very thorough quide on how to root your Pixel 3a. It walks you through rooting with both Android Pie and Android 10 with very clear and precise steps. If you have any questions about it, feel free to post in that thread or reach out to me via a direct message.
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Very detailed indeed, but I still have a question: in your instructions you seem to boot into TWRP to install Magisk, but you do NOT install TWRP itself, just boot it for the installation of Magisk. Is that correct? Why?
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There is no limitation on using Magisk or rooting under Android 10. The only thing you cannot do with Android 10 is use TWRP, but that isn't a deal breaker. TWRP is good for making backups of your OS, but as you have found you can still recover from just about any situation using the Google factory images, so while a backup might be beneficial at times, it isn't a necessity. Personally I would definitely recommend using Android 10 because Pie isn't being updated by Google anymore, so you are going to be behind on security updates, etc if you stick with Pie.
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I am going through all this rigmarole to be able to install XPrivacyLua through the Xposed Framework, but the instructions for Xposed (https://www.xda-developers.com/xposed-framework-hub/) seem to indicate you need TWRP as a requisite, hence I think am stuck with Android P (9.0).
On the other hand, I get conflicting information as to whether Xposed for Magisk does (https://www.xda-developers.com/xposed-framework-hub/) or does not (https://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/unofficial-systemless-xposed-t3388268) pass SafetyNet. Most confusing...
FD
Frederick Davies said:
Very detailed indeed, but I still have a question: in your instructions you seem to boot into TWRP to install Magisk, but you do NOT install TWRP itself, just boot it for the installation of Magisk. Is that correct? Why?
FD
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There is no need to install or boot into TWRP (btw. there is even no working TWRP for Android 10 yet) to install Magisk. It's sufficents to install Magisk Manager on your phone and patch the boot.img extracted from the factory image. Just follow the instructions which have been quoted here in the thread already.
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There is no need to install or boot into TWRP (btw. there is even no working TWRP for Android 10 yet) to install Magisk. It's sufficents to install Magisk Manager on your phone and patch the boot.img extracted from the factory image. Just follow the instructions which have been quoted here in the thread already.
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Dear AndDisa,
As I said, I am rooting my Pixel 3a because I want to install XPrivacyLua, which requires the Xposed Framework; and to install Xposed with Magisk, it lists TWRP as a pre-requisite (see "Method 2: Magisk" in https://www.xda-developers.com/xposed-framework-hub/). Since it seems there is some kind of reluctance to use/install TWRP in this thread, I am asking why that is so. I understand it is possible to install Magisk without TWRP, I am just asking "why?"
Again, thank you all for your help.
FD
TWRP doesn't work on Android 10 at this point so you can't flash it.
Frederick Davies said:
Dear AndDisa,
As I said, I am rooting my Pixel 3a because I want to install XPrivacyLua, which requires the Xposed Framework; and to install Xposed with Magisk, it lists TWRP as a pre-requisite (see "Method 2: Magisk" in https://www.xda-developers.com/xposed-framework-hub/). Since it seems there is some kind of reluctance to use/install TWRP in this thread, I am asking why that is so. I understand it is possible to install Magisk without TWRP, I am just asking "why?"
Again, thank you all for your help.
FD
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If you read closely in the guide sic linked, he does state the TWRP method is only for P because you can't use TWRP on 10. It is the way partitions are handled in 10 where you really can't read your internal storage and it would have to require a code rework. Until that's done, no TWRP.
Edit: quote from twrp developer about it. https://twrp.me/site/update/2019/10/23/twrp-and-android-10.html
https://github.com/ElderDrivers/EdXposed/pull/354
https://github.com/ElderDrivers/EdXposedManager/releases
You can flash xposed without TWRP. Just install edxposed by downloading and installing through magisk and install the edxposed manager. You don't need TWRP
Frederick Davies said:
Very detailed indeed, but I still have a question: in your instructions you seem to boot into TWRP to install Magisk, but you do NOT install TWRP itself, just boot it for the installation of Magisk. Is that correct? Why?
FD
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As other have noted, TWRP does not work with Android 10. However, I also wanted to answer your question because it is valid.....
With Android Pie (9), you cannot permanently install TWRP unless you first flash a custom kernel that supports LZMA compression. Using the stock kernel, you can load TWRP using ADB and use it just like normal, but when you reboot the phone TWRP will not be loaded anymore. My instructions are about rooting the phone and not about installing TWRP permanently on the phone and therefore I provided the simplest method to accomplish that goal.
Most custom kernels have been updated with LZMA support, but you should really read the TWRP thread for more information on how to permanently install TWRP on Android Pie
Dear All,
Thank you for all your help and explanations concerning my questions.
I have now rooted my Pixel 3a running Android 9 following the instructions supplied (no TWRP installation), and It seems that Magisk is installed and happy (at least it thinks it is and FX has root access), but I am afraid that EdXposed and XPrivacyLua are not working as expected.
After Magisk, I installed the "Riru - Core" and "Riru - EdXposed (YAHFA)" modules. I then installed the "EdXposed Framework (YAHFA)" (giving the EdXposed Installer superuser privileges; EdExposed reports it is installed and active), and the XprivacyLua module inside it. But now Magisk complains that the SafetyNet checks are failing (this coincides with installing XPrivacyLua, but it is the only module I have in EdXposed), and XPrivacyLua is not actually blocking anything at all (that is, even when I supposedly block access to some functions, the apps just go ahead and use them).
Why do I get the impression Google does not want people to root their phones?
Yours,
FD
Frederick Davies said:
Dear All,
Thank you for all your help and explanations concerning my questions.
I have now rooted my Pixel 3a running Android 9 following the instructions supplied (no TWRP installation), and It seems that Magisk is installed and happy (at least it thinks it is and FX has root access), but I am afraid that EdXposed and XPrivacyLua are not working as expected.
After Magisk, I installed the "Riru - Core" and "Riru - EdXposed (YAHFA)" modules. I then installed the "EdXposed Framework (YAHFA)" (giving the EdXposed Installer superuser privileges; EdExposed reports it is installed and active), and the XprivacyLua module inside it. But now Magisk complains that the SafetyNet checks are failing (this coincides with installing XPrivacyLua, but it is the only module I have in EdXposed), and XPrivacyLua is not actually blocking anything at all (that is, even when I supposedly block access to some functions, the apps just go ahead and use them).
Why do I get the impression Google does not want people to root their phones?
Yours,
FD
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It is most certainly the things you have installed that are breaking the SafetyNet check. I don't know anything about XprivacyLua, but I would assume there is a support thread here on XDA for it. I would read that support thread and see if there is a solution to the Safetynet issue.
Dear All,
OK, I have now rooted my Pixel 3a: I am running Android 9, and I flashed Magisk (Magisk Manager version 7.4.0; Magisk version 20.1) without installing TWRP as per the instructions. Then I installed the Riru - Core (version 10) and Riru - Ed Exposed (version 0.2.8_beta) modules, which allowed me to install EdXposedInstaller (version 2.2.5). I am currently running Xposed Framework (version 90.0-0.2.8) with XPrivacyLua (version 1.25).
The result is that XPrivacyLua is working with a few caveats: the SafetyNet Check fails both the ctsProfile and basicIntegrity checks (this is triggered by XPrivacyLua, not (Ed)Xposed), and when I limit access of WhatsApp to the Contacts list, there are constant errors whenever WhatsApp tries to read it (though it seems to work as expected). Also, the Contacts list keeps disappearing from the Contacts app itself, despite WhatsApp actually seeing those contacts in there (go figure).
Other apps that require root (like FX) are working as expected.
In the end, I have decided that since I am not interested in using my mobile for Google Pay, I will have to live with it as it is now, but I have a couple of points for others that may want to follow in my footsteps (this is not necessarily related to the method of rooting; those who helped me here are certainly not at fault for the following):
1. XPrivacyLua is in no way as capable and easy to use as XPrivacy was (XPrivacy is the main reason why I am rooting my phone). If I could install Android 4 on my Pixel 3a, I would do so and go back to XPrivacy (my venerable Nexus 5's second battery is shot, so I had to get new hardware). There is nothing in Android 9 that I actually need that was not there in Android 4.
2. We really need a Nexus Toot Toolkit for Pixel phones. The multitude of versions and steps required in rooting them successfully is too much for those like me who will root their phone for one or two apps and then leave it as it is. I know that these forums are really for tinkerers who want to extract the maximum from their hardware, and hence my point of view is not representative here, but I just want a mobile that will not spy on me, the rest is irrelevant to me.
I guess I will have to open a thread in the XPrivacyLua forums to see if I can sort out my problems, but I would like to thank you all for your help in getting me here and answering my questions (no matter how pointless they may have seemed).
Yours,
FD
Frederick Davies said:
Dear All,
OK, I have now rooted my Pixel 3a: I am running Android 9, and I flashed Magisk (Magisk Manager version 7.4.0; Magisk version 20.1) without installing TWRP as per the instructions. Then I installed the Riru - Core (version 10) and Riru - Ed Exposed (version 0.2.8_beta) modules, which allowed me to install EdXposedInstaller (version 2.2.5). I am currently running Xposed Framework (version 90.0-0.2.8) with XPrivacyLua (version 1.25).
The result is that XPrivacyLua is working with a few caveats: the SafetyNet Check fails both the ctsProfile and basicIntegrity checks (this is triggered by XPrivacyLua, not (Ed)Xposed), and when I limit access of WhatsApp to the Contacts list, there are constant errors whenever WhatsApp tries to read it (though it seems to work as expected). Also, the Contacts list keeps disappearing from the Contacts app itself, despite WhatsApp actually seeing those contacts in there (go figure).
Other apps that require root (like FX) are working as expected.
In the end, I have decided that since I am not interested in using my mobile for Google Pay, I will have to live with it as it is now, but I have a couple of points for others that may want to follow in my footsteps (this is not necessarily related to the method of rooting; those who helped me here are certainly not at fault for the following):
1. XPrivacyLua is in no way as capable and easy to use as XPrivacy was (XPrivacy is the main reason why I am rooting my phone). If I could install Android 4 on my Pixel 3a, I would do so and go back to XPrivacy (my venerable Nexus 5's second battery is shot, so I had to get new hardware). There is nothing in Android 9 that I actually need that was not there in Android 4.
2. We really need a Nexus Toot Toolkit for Pixel phones. The multitude of versions and steps required in rooting them successfully is too much for those like me who will root their phone for one or two apps and then leave it as it is. I know that these forums are really for tinkerers who want to extract the maximum from their hardware, and hence my point of view is not representative here, but I just want a mobile that will not spy on me, the rest is irrelevant to me.
I guess I will have to open a thread in the XPrivacyLua forums to see if I can sort out my problems, but I would like to thank you all for your help in getting me here and answering my questions (no matter how pointless they may have seemed).
Yours,
FD
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Cool story bro
My daughter got a new phone, after struggling with bootloops and magisk issues. Finally got everything working correctly.
But,
I got root to go fine, only thing is she has had location issues. Google maps, other GPS or location services did not work.
So I uninstalled xprivacylua and seems like services came back, looks like I wasn't hiding anything on it anyways. Or I don't remember what it was.
So instead of reinstalling xprivacylua I decided to look for different answers .
Maybe some other solutions.
Here is a list of apps and modules that are installed. I think some of them overlapped and are kind of messed up. To many that my head is spinning.
Magisk
23.0 (23000)
Magiskhide Props Config.
Riru
Riru LS exposed (Tried switching back and forth to edxposed)
Systemless Hosts
Universal Safetynet fix 1.1.2. (Tried different versions)
LS Esposed one module,
Hiddencore module (enabled Google services Framework and google play services)
Also cleared Data and Cache on google play store.
Rebooted every time
Always safety net failure.
I know its a lot to take in , and do appreciate any feedback or help on this issue.
Is it an 8T? Are you running stock OOS with magisk?
In that case all you need to pass safteynet should be Magisk 23 with magisk hide activated. No need to bother with Magisk hide propconfig, or edexposed or anything.
If you are running a custom rom it is a different matter
I have magisk 23 and magisk hide is active on all google play services, but it still fails.
Its 8t with stock rom.
I think this is why its a little confusing since on my stock 7 pro I have google play services and only android.gms, and android gms unstable hidden and it works fine.
There is not a custom recovery on either of these phones.
Magisk and magisk hide works fine for me, so don't know what to say.
Perhaps try to uninstall Riru and exposed to make sure that they aren't triggering safety net?
You have to get termux. Get su superuser permissions then type props a menu will load press 2 then select yes to change device name then y again to reboot then it should pass safety net
Screens of magisk hide props config
scottlam1 said:
You have to get termux. Get su superuser permissions then type props a menu will load press 2 then select yes to change device name then y again to reboot then it should pass safety net
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Nope.. Terminal Emulator is actually recommended. With Termux, you are required to use root access for props to work.
with Terminal Emulator, you can just type:
props
and then it'll load. no "su" necessary. That's termux. I've had some issues that these people are talking about with my OnePlus 8T (KB2005, unlocked completely).. I'll try Termux just to rule this out, but this is highly doubtful as to whether or not safetynet passes based on this--it's attempting to modify the same values. Anyway, when I unlocked that bootloader on a stock rom, CTS Profile started showing as false. So I did get the stock on there correctly and it initially passed with a LOCKED bootloader. There's an alpha TWRP that you can actually flash if you want. There's a couple others where you can only boot it.. there's a lot of "only's" here.. and I couldn't get it going with any of the apps mentioned, including ditching EdXposed and deciding to try LSPosed, but that + XPrivacyLau didnt seem to help me. Maybe I'm doing something wrong. From what I can tell I've done everything right and I've got quite a bit of experience attempting/doing this. Sometimes Device SImulation and forced BASIC ATTESTATION can be a lifesaver.
On my OnePlus 6T, I don't have this problem.. then again it's on Android 10. I can't even get a proper root explorer for Android 11. I seriously can't stand what they did to Android 11.. it's so ridiculous how many apps are now incompatible. Root Explorer Pro was possibly the best Root File Manager I've ever used and I've used it since day 1.
Anyway, I'm gonna give all of this a shot in different order.. and this time I'll see if Magisk can do the trick (last time it was on some different firmware and i just now was able to get it going by flashing via Fastboot in Linux). It's the manual way (payload dumper) as opposed to MSMDownloadTool -- which could be used via a VM.. and maybe even better than using Windows tools where you literally have no idea what you're actually doing. I'm just saying. Android is a linux distro, technically.. and we're trying to use just basic root apps for Android 11, and they don't seem to work.. it's insane. They did something with the partitions and it's apparently having issues even mounting R/W even with Magisk giving it root permissions. Btw, Magisk Canary is now outdated, as far as I can tell? Or it's just nowhere to be found when it comes to versions. Either way, I have tried multiple. So I'll try again in a different order.
Sorry for the long post. I've just had it. I've been working on this for a WEEK non stop.. 5-6 days and this is the first sign of progress (reverting via fastboot via Linux, which is the same thing as the MSMDownloadTool ultimately... without the hassle of finding it)
Let me know if there's anything else.. cause I've tried just about everything out there. Remember, for me, so far... unlocked bootloader = CTS Profile failure.. but locked bootloader + stock rom? Passed. I don't know. Before it wasn't passing with a stock rom that came with it so that drove me nuts and made no sense, hence me saying "progress" ... heh. Anyway.. Please let me know if you guys do find anything that works for it. I'm at my wits end. There's basically almost zero support for the 8T but plenty for the 8 and 8 Pro. So that also gets on my nerves. Sorry, once again, for this really long post. Some of it is just venting and I'll update if I get somewhere with it.
.. and now this morning after installing magisk, by just booting twrp (not flashing, but booting) and then using LSPosed/XPrivacyLua (I installed MagiskProps too but I barely did anything aside from pick a fingerprint) --- and it passed? WHAT?
I'm gonna look into this, but I'm not complaining. Let's see if I can find good Android 11 apps for actually browsing the system and being able to r/w any elusive partitions -- wasn't working well with Android 11 before. Not sure if that's around with a simple design anymore. Root Explorer Pro was king of that. Then Android 11 stepped in. I still have to install Lucky Patcher, if it will even work as a module for LSPosed. (Yes, I'm one of those idiots) -- I fully expect it to fail with that but I might be pleasantly surprised. Who knows. So, we'll just call this mixed results. For now -- Passing somehow. I don't understand aside from LSPosed and XPrivLua.. maybe magiskprops. Not sure which one did what first to cause this to go the right direction.
All I can say is all I have is magisk props not the other 2 modules you speak of
Well this is super weird. I didnt see my daughter for 2 days and she said everything is working fine.
I did tons of reboots and other installs/uninstalls and nothing worked.
But now I do safety net check and it works fine.
I dont get it.
If I do have issues again I will post here and follow instructions.
Thank you for your time and help
eracet said:
Well this is super weird. I didnt see my daughter for 2 days and she said everything is working fine.
I did tons of reboots and other installs/uninstalls and nothing worked.
But now I do safety net check and it works fine.
I dont get it.
If I do have issues again I will post here and follow instructions.
Thank you for your time and help
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Ok asked her what she did. Mentioned updated YouTube vanced. And not sure of anything else.
Hi, I use root in all my devices from a lot of time but now I'm 41yo and no more interested in this.
I use root "now only" for
1) call recording (BCR);
2) SwifthBackup;
3) Revanced.
So, call recorder seems to be installed also without root: just put apk in system app directory!
... but, how I can move an apk in system directory without root or twrp, and with locked bootloader?
SwifthBackup can work without root? I don't remember but I can search.
Revanced isn't a problem, I can use with microG.
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Any help about my doubts?
I want try also because VPN not work, and after a months of email with support "seems" can be related to unlocked/rooted device.
I want just try.
Ty.
Without root, Swift Backup can backup app APK files, but not the app data. It does allow you to grant adb permissions through Shizuku, but I never figured out what [if anything] that allows it to do. I wasn't able to backup app data with ADB privelages.
I don't know the answer to the Call Recording issue.
lupastro82 said:
Hi, I use root in all my devices from a lot of time but now I'm 41yo and no more interested in this.
I use root "now only" for
1) call recording (BCR);
2) SwifthBackup;
3) Revanced.
So, call recorder seems to be installed also without root: just put apk in system app directory!
... but, how I can move an apk in system directory without root or twrp, and with locked bootloader?
SwifthBackup can work without root? I don't remember but I can search.
Revanced isn't a problem, I can use with microG.
----
Any help about my doubts?
I want try also because VPN not work, and after a months of email with support "seems" can be related to unlocked/rooted device.
I want just try.
Ty.
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I imagine that, once you move that .apk to the system app directory (while rooted), once you unroot, it should still stay there and probably be accessible; but I'm unsure whether successfully running it will be possible -- it depends on the call recording app and if the app requires root to run. If it doesn't and it simply needs root just to be inserted, then I imagine it would probably work if you unroot.
But I have never heard of this method of getting a mod or add-on to work by inserting it in the system app directory...it's fascinating...
Like you said, ReVanced doesn't necessarily need root to work; it just works better with it. Swift Backup will only in a basic way be able to back your device up without root access.
But if you are simply just trying to get a certain VPN to work -- and in the end you don't want to lose root -- you could try doing the numerous root-hiding methods. There are many games, banking apps, and streaming apps that won't work with root (without even giving you a warning that it's because of root detection sometimes) that, once you hide root successfully, are able to run it. It sounds like that could possibly be the case for your VPN.
There are these you can try (if you haven't yet); Zygisk Deny List, UniversalSafetyNetFix (Displax mod works best with P7P), Shamiko, HideMyApp, Magisk Delta, etc.
Also, please be aware (or reminded if you know already) that while unrooting will not wipe and reset your device, locking your bootloader requires wiping the device and you losing everything! You'll be able to get some stuff restored through Google One Backup/Sync, but most everything will need to be set back up and/or lost. And if all you are seeking is to get a VPN to work, I really highly doubt that the app/service goes so far as to detect if you have an unlocked bootloader; it seems there are some banking apps that go that far, but most apps out there don't go that far, and hearing a VPN does would be a first...
Good luck!
Just Google VPN. Do not work anymore from about two months and seems can be a root/unlocked issue.
Anyway, u're right. Ty so much.