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The upgrade for my Surface is ready, and I am thinking what to do with that. Right now I have unlocked (jailbraked) system, I know that after installing upgrade I will have to stick for a while with locked one. How about you guys? Are you installing asap or waiting for unlock solutions?
From a fellow surface RT owner that has just moved back after installing the 8.1 update preview, I wouldn't recommend it for one reason - standby battery life.
I kept installing the updates assuming that the battery life would improve.
Suffice to say that my standby battery life has jumped from about 12 hours to about 12 days.
In fact my battery life on 8.1 was so poor (even with Bluetooth on) that my surface could actually last longer if I was working on it all day.
Unless Microsoft bothers to fix this enormous issue, I'm staying well away from the update.
On a connected note - if anyone downloads the update, please let me know if this issue gets fixed, I assume it isn't already.
feygor said:
From a fellow surface RT owner that has just moved back after installing the 8.1 update preview, I wouldn't recommend it for one reason - standby battery life.
I kept installing the updates assuming that the battery life would improve.
Suffice to say that my standby battery life has jumped from about 12 hours to about 12 days.
In fact my battery life on 8.1 was so poor (even with Bluetooth on) that my surface could actually last longer if I was working on it all day.
Unless Microsoft bothers to fix this enormous issue, I'm staying well away from the update.
On a connected note - if anyone downloads the update, please let me know if this issue gets fixed, I assume it isn't already.
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Yeah, i read about battery issue. But I wonder if the final version differs from the preview in this issue? Can anyone confirm or deny? And what about the RTM version? Is the final 100% is the same as the RTM?
ell82 said:
Yeah, i read about battery issue. But I wonder if the final version differs from the preview in this issue? Can anyone confirm or deny? And what about the RTM version? Is the final 100% is the same as the RTM?
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I doubt the official Windows RT 8.1 RTM release for the Surface RT is the same as the community-built RTM version for ir. Remember, it had to have some drivers injected? And this release suffers from Touch Cover issues after the Oct 15 firmware update, and you need to do a refresh to solve it. I think that you would still need to do a refresh every time you do a reinstall.
I am pretty confident that the real release wouldn't cause any such problems, that's why I am looking forward to someone doing the upgrade and uploading it's image for us, the early RTM users, to restore our devices to official-spec.
By the way, I have really noticed the poor standby time. My guess would be that some Windows 8.0 background features were purposely limited to compliment the missing support for the 5th battery-saving core, and that Windows 8.1 brought many of them back without fixing the issue with this 5th core. And I doubt that Microsoft is ever going to fix it even though it's obvious now that the 5th battery-saving core is really needed to achieve reasonable stand-by times. Or they might just limit this background stuff again (make tile updates much-less-often, for example).
OP, do you install apps to the sd card? If you do, then wait, unless the released ISO is really that different from the community release version, the functionality of installing to the sd card is broken.
DO IT. IE 11's performance is notably improved. The Surface RT couldn't break 1000ms on SunSpider when it first came out
Edit: It got 889.6ms, btw. Sorry if it's too small to read.
I have no plans to upgrade/update. For me having an unlocked desktop is worth far more than any changes I've seen so far in RT 8.1. I don't need Outlook thankfully. I do hope a way to changing the signing restrictions in 8.1 will be found and wish those working on it the best of luck!
I didn't do anything with the 'jailbreak' so I upgraded. IE is noticeably faster. Also keyboard auto correct/suggest is a million times better. Hard to tell if the rest of the system is any faster or if its just in my head now and too early to comment on battery life. I wish it had swype. No problems with my touch keyboard.
Thanks for replays. I think I will stick with 8.0 for a while until there will be possibility to unlock 8.1 for not signed apps.
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I didn't do anything with the 'jailbreak' so I upgraded. IE is noticeably faster. Also keyboard auto correct/suggest is a million times better. Hard to tell if the rest of the system is any faster or if its just in my head now and too early to comment on battery life. I wish it had swype. No problems with my touch keyboard.
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Could you please create a USB recovery using the (Recovery section in settings) and share it?
jtg007 said:
DO IT. IE 11's performance is notably improved. The Surface RT couldn't break 1000ms on SunSpider when it first came out
Edit: It got 889.6ms, btw. Sorry if it's too small to read.
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I still running RT (not 8.1) and got 9xxms both on Desktop and Metro IE.
Try to upgrade to 8.1 but it disappear from store today. I see it yesterday and can't get it back. Really annoy.
You should be able to use this link:
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/download-shop
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Can anyone who has updated to 8.1 confirm or deny that the standby battery issue has been fixed, does the surface last overnight? This is a real issue that I want to know is fixed, as well as the god awful bugs that plagued the beta version of IE11
Edit: Not that it matters now, Microsoft have pulled the update due to an error with the boot configuration files. Looks like we might be waiting a bit longer for that upgrade (Unless one of you lucky upgrades feel like sharing your recovery drive files...)
Can confirm standby drain is still happening after a refresh and all updates even
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Can confirm standby drain is still happening after a refresh and all updates even
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As I feared, guess I'll be sticking with good old 8.0 for the foreseeable future, it's very disappointing to see MSFT pushing an update that cripples their own hardware and claim blind ignorance to it. There's no feature in 8.1 that's worth giving up a week standby battery. TBH there's no device nowadays that can excuse a device that only lasts about 12 hours on standby.
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As I feared, guess I'll be sticking with good old 8.0 for the foreseeable future, it's very disappointing to see MSFT pushing an update that cripples their own hardware and claim blind ignorance to it. There's no feature in 8.1 that's worth giving up a week standby battery. TBH there's no device nowadays that can excuse a device that only lasts about 12 hours on standby.
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If it's of any use for you guys, I'm on 8.1 now and on standby at night (wifi connected, bluetooth disconnected, logged in) it drops from 98% to 92%. If I turn Plane mode on and log off, it stays at 99% or maybe drops 1%.
The first night when I got it 2 weeks ago with Windows 8.0 it stayd at the same % over night (logeed in, wifi on), but the next nights it would drop from 70% to 0%
I think it was solved disabling lockscreen notifications to avoid background usage. I planned to do a refresh with 8.1, but since it's working fine for me, I don't need to.
I think I did try that before but not since last updates. I'll give that a go and see how it drains over the next few days
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If it's of any use for you guys, I'm on 8.1 now and on standby at night (wifi connected, bluetooth disconnected, logged in) it drops from 98% to 92%. If I turn Plane mode on and log off, it stays at 99% or maybe drops 1%.
The first night when I got it 2 weeks ago with Windows 8.0 it stayd at the same % over night (logeed in, wifi on), but the next nights it would drop from 70% to 0%
I think it was solved disabling lockscreen notifications to avoid background usage. I planned to do a refresh with 8.1, but since it's working fine for me, I don't need to.
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Almost the same here, In my case it has been in standby for about 18 hrs, everything on, but disconnected... and it did from 100% to 95%.
I'm running rt 8.1
It's bring reported in news that Samsung is working on Oreo for Galaxy S8 and S8+, and that the software version is BQI1.
Well, that is nice. But hey? Did you know OnePlus is already testing the OnePlus 3 Oreo under beta, closed beta actually that is not available to the public.
OnePlus is also targeting a September-end release of public beta of its Oreo for OP5, OP3/3T.
Hell, THAT IS FAST. No?
And what we have on Samsung?
The build nos. of Oreo update under the works.
Well, every OEM has Oreo update under the works. HTC, Motorola, Sony, LG, all of them. Even though they do not put out their Oreo build nos. out, chances are that they will still beat Samsung in the race to Oreo rollout.
So, Samsung, making a news via your unofficial source about Oreo update's supposed build nos that won't make to rollout is really not gonna make Galaxy S fans happy. Availability of a beta build of S8, before or just after OnePlus releases one of its own, would be something that would cheer Samsung's fans.
What do you guys think?
8 generations of beating a dead horse...
I rather have a later release which works more stable than a first-of-the-brands-release which is buggy as hell. Just my 2 cents.
The final release will be in January or February. Deal with it or get another phone.
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I rather have a later release which works more stable than a first-of-the-brands-release which is buggy as hell. Just my 2 cents.
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HTC and LG release new software among the first ones and it was never buggy. Still 5 months after S8 release, battery drain is here, not fixed with 7.0, not even 7.1.1.
#justsayin
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HTC and LG release new software among the first ones and it was never buggy. Still 5 months after S8 release, battery drain is here, not fixed with 7.0, not even 7.1.1.
#justsayin
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donno what battery drain you're talking about. I have none.
Had LG G2 before. Lollipop update was really BAD (performance and battery) and BUGGY, and never fully fixed with official updates from LG. Kitkat update was much better, although still worse than the original 4.2.2
srdjanLeo said:
HTC and LG release new software among the first ones and it was never buggy. Still 5 months after S8 release, battery drain is here, not fixed with 7.0, not even 7.1.1.
#justsayin
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donno what battery drain you're talking about. I have none.
Had LG G2 before. Lollipop update was really BAD (performance and battery) and BUGGY, and never fully fixed with official updates from LG. Kitkat update was much better, although still worse than the original 4.2.2
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Same here, 0 battery drain at all. I can do days with 1 charge. And yes I do use it daily all day long.
The Root said:
8 generations of beating a dead horse...
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Like most of us won't wind up installing the first bleeding edge alpha build that gets leaked here...
tester5224 said:
donno what battery drain you're talking about. I have none.
Had LG G2 before. Lollipop update was really BAD (performance and battery) and BUGGY, and never fully fixed with official updates from LG. Kitkat update was much better, although still worse than the original 4.2.2
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Same here, 0 battery drain at all. I can do days with 1 charge. And yes I do use it daily all day long.
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Well, with HTC 10 I still get around 2-3 days of use, my GF with my old G5 gets 2 days. With Crapsung, if I get full day it is a miracle. And overheating is terrible. You dont have to convince me that this is good battery life because I'm not a child. I know how battery should behave.
But, It was my fault to be a victim of Crapsung marketing. And for sure, this is my first and last Samsung device.
What the hell did you expect! Or is this your 1st Samsung device.
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Well, with HTC 10 I still get around 2-3 days of use, my GF with my old G5 gets 2 days. With Crapsung, if I get full day it is a miracle. And overheating is terrible. You dont have to convince me that this is good battery life because I'm not a child. I know how battery should behave.
But, It was my fault to be a victim of Crapsung marketing. And for sure, this is my first and last Samsung device.
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I could easily get 4 or 5 days use out my s8+ if I used my phone a certain way. Here's my batter life and screen on time with heavy use, video, 3d gaming, calls, WhatsApp, telegram, Skype and on top of all that half the time I was on 4g! Care to show any proof of your supposed HTC 10 battery life
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The moment someone has different opinion he’s trolling. ? well natural response from someone whose IQ is equal to the room temperature in celsius.
Anyway, I said this was my first Samsung device. And it is gonna be my last one. I get that Exynos is better than Snapdragon, camera is great, Sound is poor before adding Arya Sound mod but after it, it is great. Display was the reason why I took this device.
But... battery is really bad. After posting on Samsung community Moderator replied me that 17 hours is pretty great! Wtf? Since when is that the case? iPhones can do better that that. When I use YT or recording for loger than 5-6 minutes, phone gets unbearably hot and starts to be buggy. This also cannot be normal. I red some forums and found out that a lot of people are experiencing this kind of behavior. Custom rom (BatStock 1.4) fixed it partially.
So, don’t be blinded like iPhone freaks, I just think there is a lot of room for improvements.
Also, I am selling it, and it takes a time.
Cheers!
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You can't just generalise the whole handset because of your experience you're one person and I just showed you evidence earlier of my battery life. Going by my own evidence i could just say it's an amazing device, I'm not even running custom roms or kernels, which I do plan to do at some point.
Yeah I suspect we won't have it till December or January. Now will they have an open beta again?
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Yeah I suspect we won't have it till December or January. Now will they have an open beta again?
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I think so but only for the BTU users.. starting in November?? Time to download the BTU firmware again
What's BTU firmware?
srdjanLeo said:
Also, I am selling it, and it takes a time.
Cheers!
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Apparently you have a defective device. I've had my S8 since the middle of April and I have great battery life and it never once overheated. Would it be fair for you to pass your problem off on someone else? If do, at least inform them of your phones issues so they would be making an informed decision purchasing it.
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Bart3n said:
I think so but only for the BTU users.. starting in November?? Time to download the BTU firmware again
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The S7 got the Nougat Beta in November because of the Note 7 failure. I guess the Note 8 will get Oreo Beta in November but we'll see.
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Gaps between the housing and the glass of the screen were huge (compared to now) and the screen itself had problems
with red tint all across it and issues with burn in after less than a week of use . Since then I dropped it and cracked the screen.
They replaced the whole metal housing of the phone and the screen.
I had overheating issues also if the ambient temperature was more than 35 degrees Celsius and I haven't used more than
one app at a time, even in the background...
Also regarding battery drain. Had this issue with the July update plus my home button started trippin' and auto-brightness stopped working completely.
On the other hand my brother who also has an S8 didn't have any of this issues so I'm willing to bet that it's all up to the batch of device you got. Few of
my friends that got the phone just after the release reported problems from screen to bricked devices!
Thread cleaned up a bit.
Please show respect to all members. There is no need to disrespect each other.
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You can't just generalise the whole handset because of your experience you're one person and I just showed you evidence earlier of my battery life. Going by my own evidence i could just say it's an amazing device, I'm not even running custom roms or kernels, which I do plan to do at some point.
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Exactly. I live in The Netherlands and have never heard of bad battery life with an Samsung. The thing is, a Samsung lasts the longest with high brightness. An LCD-device (iPhone for instance) lasts longer with low brightness (0-30%). In general, with the brightness maxed out and mixed usage on pure 4G+ I get about 4-5.5 hours of display on time on a single charge. If you'd do the same on an LCD-device (iPhone 7 Plus) you can expect about 2-2.5 hours of display on time. The story does change completely when using 0-30% brightness, then the iPhone 7 Plus outruns the S8 by quite a few hours (no video watching). I'm on fully stock and liking the device a lot. No lag, fast and reliable just like the S7 Edge which I had before this.
Absolute standby drain is the best on Galaxy A-series phones from my experience. 5-7H of SOT with 100% brightness over 4-5 days is a normal occurance for the A5 2016 which my mom owns (with lots of streaming included, phone calls & skype). Can't do that on my S8 and the iPhone 7 would die within the first 3 hours under the same use-case...
Android Oreo isn't necessary imho. It's nice that we do get the update but nearly all introduced features are features we already have had for many years on the Galaxy S-series. While other manufacturers benefit massively with Android Oreo...Samsung simply doesn't.
My typical day used to get 35-40 hours of total time (not SOT) on Nougat and if I used airplane mode at night lasted 2 work days most of the time.
with Oreo Beta3, I am getting 15 hours give or take an hour. Anyone else seeing this ? Oreo Beta2 drained faster than 7.1, but by a relatively small amount.
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My typical day used to get 35-40 hours of total time (not SOT) on Nougat and if I used airplane mode at night lasted 2 work days most of the time.
with Oreo Beta3, I am getting 15 hours give or take an hour. Anyone else seeing this ? Oreo Beta2 drained faster than 7.1, but by a relatively small amount.
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35/40 hours? Not a heavy user I take it? I get a full day comfortably but no more.
Installed any new apps?
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no difference for me when switching from beta 2 to beta 3
I'm coming from 7.1.1 and yes, standby battery drain is much worse on OB3. I'm seeing a lot of bluetooth_timer wakelocks as one of the culprits.
It does say right on the download page that you will experience battery drain from Bluetooth
I think the battery drain issue was only with the first Oreo build. I haven't had any issues with mine.
I was on OB1 and after I went to OB2 some thing's didn't seem right so I did a factory reset and now on OB3 it's still great.
I've noticed no difference in battery performance at all. I went from 7.1.1 to OB2 to OB3 now. Device is an unlocked model (factory direct) running on Sprint, no root.
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I've noticed no difference in battery performance at all. I went from 7.1.1 to OB2 to OB3 now. Device is an unlocked model (factory direct) running on Sprint, no root.
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So my usage is pretty heavy, but SOT is low, mostly text/email and quick in/out.
Found the culprit. Had moved from Launcher3 to PixelLauncher, that was the hog .. and it showed up as a system consumption. Moved back to Launcher3 and I am back to OB2 levels of drain.
Forgot to mention that I run the Nova launcher with Google feed add-on and I'm a heavy user also
I'm having also a significant battery drain coming from OB2 to OB3. I haven't installed any new apps. What app would you recommend for looking for the culprit? I see everything normal in the Android settings battery monitor.
Yup, my battery life went to crap from ob2 to ob3. I noticed it immediately, i then did a factory reset which fixed the issue for me.
battery got better for me with each beta. now it's better than nougat for me.
Adb log tends to be pretty useful. I have also run top from the adb shell to get the first hint .. and then strategies vary.
Sometimes, it has happened 3 times already, I plug the phone to charge, the screen will say "charging rapidly", the message light will turn yellow. Come to check on the phone 30 minutes later and the phone will be at the same % that I left it before charging it.
Yes I made sure it was plugged and yes it said "charging rapidly". However once it's charged, the battery life in good.
No charging issues at all.
20 hours on and only down 25%.
Estimates 2 days left.
Not doing anything with the phone. Reading a little news and that's about it.
Waiting for unlock so I can dump Sprint.
tech_head said:
No charging issues at all.
20 hours on and only down 25%.
Estimates 2 days left.
Not doing anything with the phone. Reading a little news and that's about it.
Waiting for unlock so I can dump Sprint.
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Good luck getting it unlocked. There are tons of us that are unlocked in Sprint's system but we can't get it to pass UICC.
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Good luck getting it unlocked. There are tons of us that are unlocked in Sprint's system but we can't get it to pass UICC.
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Then it's not really unlocked.
What OS?
Rooted?
Just wondering if that matters.
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Then it's not really unlocked.
What OS?
Rooted?
Just wondering if that matters.
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Oreo Beta 3. But that shouldn't matter, cause that's a security thing plus essential should have said Sprint users don't sideload and test this for us cause your phone will be borked and we aren't going to do squat for you. Hahahaha.
I'm mad, can ya feel it? Seething in the air.
Yup for me nougat battery is way better than oreo b3..
Omg it's horrible. I am getting 15 hours but 8 of those are in airplane mode wifi only at night and the rest as my second device airplane mode still but wifi and Bluetooth partial times
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I am running Nova launcher and launcher3 used to crash in a short loop everyone I hit the home button before I selected Nova as default... Could it be freaking out in the background still?
I'm not even kidding. Everything was perfect and I had absolutely no problems until they sent out that update. Now I can watch my battery percentage dropping by the second and my phone will shut off around 30%.
Once again, I had no problems until the August update. I never even rooted this phone, so the last thing I want to do is to figure that out to downgrade to the last version. I will if I have to though
If your phone spontaneously shuts down with the battery at 30%, then I see 2 possibilities:
It's overheating, or
The battery has reached end-of-life
Use an app to determine the remaining capacity of your battery (usually displayed in mAh). The results of such apps should be taken with a grain of salt, but if it says your battery is only at 60 or 70% of original capacity, then it's definitely not normal.
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I'm not even kidding. Everything was perfect and I had absolutely no problems until they sent out that update. Now I can watch my battery percentage dropping by the second and my phone will shut off around 30%.
Once again, I had no problems until the August update. I never even rooted this phone, so the last thing I want to do is to figure that out to downgrade to the last version. I will if I have to though
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You could try to go to recovery, wipe cache and reboot. Or, if possible, wait for the next security update and see if it gets fixed if you have a spare phone to use. These are the only two opportunities without messing around or loosing data.
A downgrade always needs a full data wipe AFAIK. If you aren't afraid of data loss, you could try a full factory reset and see if the battery drain is gone.
I noticed the same on my Pixel - i don't use it a great deal and was seeing 6 days before it'd drop to 30 to 35% battery level, now i'm seeing 2.5 to 3 days - my usage has not changed
I really don't think it's battery nearing end of life - the phone & battery are just now hitting the 2 yr mark
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I noticed the same on my Pixel - i don't use it a great deal and was seeing 6 days before it'd drop to 30 to 35% battery level, now i'm seeing 2.5 to 3 days - my usage has not changed
I really don't think it's battery nearing end of life - the phone & battery are just now hitting the 2 yr mark
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I don't think it's end of life either. Like I said, everything was great until the update. My GF got the same phone around the same time and I told her not to update. So she's still running the last version and her phone is still perfect.
Is the battery life still abysmal when running in safe mode? if so, it may be a rogue 3rd party app.
my battery life was crap with the kernel and android system after i updated to August as well. I assumed it was a Magisk update or module that was the issue. Once I moved to Android Pie my battery life has returned.
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Is the battery life still abysmal when running in safe mode? if so, it may be a rogue 3rd party app.
my battery life was crap with the kernel and android system after i updated to August as well. I assumed it was a Magisk update or module that was the issue. Once I moved to Android Pie my battery life has returned.
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I haven't tried safe mode - my battery was surprising decent under Android 8. the day it updated to Android 9 it went south in a handbasket. And i noticed "battery saver" selection is no longer available
i'm trying to read up and re-learn installing a custom rom, and which rom to choose - i last did a custom rom in 2010 and haven't been near the forums since then, but this issue and the more i learn about google's surveillance collection, i want to go custom
Since you're willing to install a custom ROM, why not try to reinstall the full stock ROM first?
appreciate the suggestion - that's what i originally wanted to do and posted here a few weeks back asking how to revert to android 8 and was told it couldn't be done but i could do a custom rom
and now, with the privacy issues i've been reading about, i think i'd prefer to limit my services as googles' "product". It kind of alarmed me how sensitive the phone's microphone was - i actually wrapped the phone in a heavy towel and left it 5 feet away, and said "OK google" in a normal voice - and bam, it was opened when i unwrapped the phone. There's no reason for the microphone to be that sensitive, imho
but i'm an old fart, and the younger generations don't seem to relish their privacy like i do - that's fine for them, no judgment on my part, i just like my privacy
Anyone experiencing poor battery life after this latest patch?
My mobile network battery is very high and I'm on wifi.
Ideas?
The latest patch as in the one that released today? If so, high usage is normal for a few days. If it's the update from last month, you might consider a factory reset and setting all your apps up from scratch. Time consuming for sure but gives you a clean slate with the battery.
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The latest patch as in the one that released today? If so, high usage is normal for a few days. If it's the update from last month, you might consider a factory reset and setting all your apps up from scratch. Time consuming for sure but gives you a clean slate with the battery.
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I concur with this assuming you're on the May update which only just was released. I'd be patient and report back after a few days at least.
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The latest patch as in the one that released today? If so, high usage is normal for a few days. If it's the update from last month, you might consider a factory reset and setting all your apps up from scratch. Time consuming for sure but gives you a clean slate with the battery.
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I just updated to the April patch due to a rooting error and reinstalled from scratch. Phone was fine prior to that.
Guess I'll just update to the newest one and see what happens? The strange thing is the high mobile network battery usage
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I just updated to the April patch due to a rooting error and reinstalled from scratch. Phone was fine prior to that.
Guess I'll just update to the newest one and see what happens? The strange thing is the high mobile network battery usage
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If you just set your phone up from scratch, you have to give it a few weeks to learn your usage patterns.
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If you just set your phone up from scratch, you have to give it a few weeks to learn your usage patterns.
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I understand. Reason I posted is this is new behavior that didn't happen previously combined with the culprit being mobile network battery drain. Appreciate your responses
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I understand. Reason I posted is this is new behavior that didn't happen previously combined with the culprit being mobile network battery drain. Appreciate your responses
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Yep, this is what I see too, I posted the pics in another forum and got a number of "that's odd" comments, where my overnight drain due to the mobile radio was crazy-high (this happened back in the Nov timeframe, fixed with the Jan update, and started again with March, pretty consistent, for me).
I typically charge in the AM, wirelessly, while I catch up on emails and such, so the phone had light use all day, and the bulk of the discharge was from 12A until around 9A, when it was not in-use.
We're located in a suburban area with very strong LTE and decent 5G towers all nearby, with (almost) always very low (e.g. "good") dBM signal values, for the mobile radio.
I flashed the April update as soon as it was released. I have also noticed that my battery life has been a bit worse on the April update.
Furthermore, I also root my phone. However, I always do a full wipe and fresh install with each update. So, I can confirm that there does indeed seem to be a potential battery drain issue on the April build. And as you have stated, I believe that it has something to do with the mobile data scanning. However, when I stay connected to WiFi, my battery doesn't drain as quickly as it does when I turn WiFi off.
Regardless, the May update has released today and so I'll likely be updating to that tonight to see whether or not this faster battery drain issue continues.
*Edit* - The May update - although only running on my device for around 12 hours - does seem to have improved that battery drain issue that was visible on the April factory image. However, this mobile data battery issue could very well be a result of Google pushing out all of these carrier service updates. Of which, they are presumably doing so in order to test the stock OS setup for their two new devices that will be launching within the next month: the Pixel 7A and the Pixel Phold. Therefore, if carrier service testing was the culprit of this issue, then I wouldn't be surprised if we see this issue pop up again due to further mobile data stability/reliability testing.
*Edit 2* - May update was installed for a few days. My battery life is MUCH better. It is essentially how it was prior to the April update.
pgrey2 said:
Yep, this is what I see too, I posted the pics in another forum and got a number of "that's odd" comments, where my overnight drain due to the mobile radio was crazy-high (this happened back in the Nov timeframe, fixed with the Jan update, and started again with March, pretty consistent, for me).
I typically charge in the AM, wirelessly, while I catch up on emails and such, so the phone had light use all day, and the bulk of the discharge was from 12A until around 9A, when it was not in-use.
We're located in a suburban area with very strong LTE and decent 5G towers all nearby, with (almost) always very low (e.g. "good") dBM signal values, for the mobile radio.
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Did you find any fixes? i updated to the May build and the issue is even WORSE. Phone idle for last two hours after full charge, down 12% already from mobile wifi data. Its literally sitting screen off burning 6% per hour
four hours of on time after full charge. 15% battery discharge - done by mobile network....ive been on wifi the whole time.
what gives?
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Did you find any fixes? i updated to the May build and the issue is even WORSE. Phone idle for last two hours after full charge, down 12% already from mobile wifi data. Its literally sitting screen off burning 6% per hour
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On the AndroidCentral forums a user referenced an actual Google support thread (which had been locked, interestingly), where they had supposedly been told, by support, to revert to 3G.
That's sort of tough to believe though, if you ask me, given the fact most carriers in Google's largest Pixel market sun-setted 3G some time ago (my carrier, TMo, did it last summer, not that I cared much, but I was tracking things).
I'd say they might have confused 3G/4G-LTE, except that they specifically called out moving from 5G/4G-LTE -> 3G, weird, eh?
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four hours of on time after full charge. 15% battery discharge - done by mobile network....ive been on wifi the whole time.
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I would bet this is because the algorithmic calculation is done based on carrier-type use, which would involve pretty much any interrupts regarding phone/sms/rcs.
My guess anyway, I tried this too, one night, and saw a similar deal.
Whatever the cause may be, it's software related and it's very aggravating. Phone was fine a few days ago
I had the same problem with the April update. due to a change of contract i now only have lte, no more 5g. Since then the battery has held up like it used to.
I have to wonder what some people are doing to make their phones...or batteries...so awful?
I have the latest May, 2023 update installed. I happened to sideload the OTA instead of waiting but I do not think that makes any difference in the end. However, the very first thing I noticed was that everything seemed a little smoother??? (placebo effect??)
The very next thing I noticed was battery life...mine improved exponentially and it wasn't bad before the update!
For example I removed the phone off of the Google wireless charger around 5 AM, then I used it on Android Auto for a round trip of about 33 miles, and when I got home (four hours off the charger) I was STILL AT 100% Hand-of-God!
When I went to bed around 9:30 PM (yes, I'm getting old) the phone was at 90%...honest to GOD again!
Looked at the battery again around 6 AM and it was at 85%. The phone was on all night with DND activated, but everything else active.
I can only guess that one of two things are happening here...either some of you have installed crap-apps that have hosed your phones, or.....you have defective phones/batteries.
YMMV
I haven't noticed much of a change with the battery after applying the March update, purposely left the phone off the changer overnight with battery at 100% (12am) - looked at the phone at 6am and percentage was down to 97%.
Whatever the cause may be, it's software related and it's very aggravating. Phone was fine a few days
jaseman said:
I have to wonder what some people are doing to make their phones...or batteries...so awful?
I have the latest May, 2023 update installed. I happened to sideload the OTA instead of waiting but I do not think that makes any difference in the end. However, the very first thing I noticed was that everything seemed a little smoother??? (placebo effect??)
The very next thing I noticed was battery life...mine improved exponentially and it wasn't bad before the update!
For example I removed the phone off of the Google wireless charger around 5 AM, then I used it on Android Auto for a round trip of about 33 miles, and when I got home (four hours off the charger) I was STILL AT 100% Hand-of-God!
When I went to bed around 9:30 PM (yes, I'm getting old) the phone was at 90%...honest to GOD again!
Looked at the battery again around 6 AM and it was at 85%. The phone was on all night with DND activated, but everything else active.
I can only guess that one of two things are happening here...either some of you have installed crap-apps that have hosed your phones, or.....you have defective phones/batteries.
YMMV
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did you read the post or just decide it was user error b/c your battery life is fine right now?
There were multiple pictures posted of the mobile network battery drain which has been documented elsewhere and confirmed by another user in the thread.
Battery life was great until the April update then the mobile network drain started which hasn't been corrected by multiple updates and full wipes.
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I haven't noticed much of a change with the battery after applying the March update, purposely left the phone off the changer overnight with battery at 100% (12am) - looked at the phone at 6am and percentage was down to 97%.
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that's how mine was previously
May update. Great as usual. Avg 6-7hrs SoT (which am happy with, consider i have 8 running app services and near 24h vpn)
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Battery life was great....
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Well, I wouldn't go THAT far....