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Hey guys, so I was exploring purchasing a Mi Mix 3 on Aliexpress for use in the United States. However, I had some concerns about usage in the United States, especially with the international version. Could someone please tell me about their experience with this phone in the United States, including carrier signal (preferably T Mobile), any issues you've come across using this phone in the United States, and other similar dilemmas. Thanks!
Its name Global Version for a reason, so i think it will work fine all around the world, IF its a true Global Edition.
Check carefully, many seller flash the global/eu rom on CN variant and sell them as "Global Edition".
It will work internationally whether it's a global edition or not, there's no difference in the bands between the Chinese and Global variants. The software is different, however. The Chinese software works fine in the US, but you have a bit of work to do to get the Google apps on it. The other issue is if the seller is buying the Chinese variant then loading the Global software and relocking the bootloader, because if you subsequently install an official update, you will hard-brick your device. Having said that, I can't think of any reason why sellers would be bothering with that now that the Global version is readily available, at least the more reputable ones. Gearbest always clearly mark their devices on the website as either Chinese or Global. I suppose if you wanted to be absolutely sure, you could buy from a European retailer, assuming you don't want the 8/256 model. The other option, of course, is to unlock the bootloader and (optionally) install an unofficial rom, that way you also get regular Android security updates.
I would recommend spending the extra to get the 8/256 if there is any chance you are going to get a "chinese" version. The "global" version is *supposed* to have all the bands enabled on all storage/ram configurations. However, the chinese version only has full band support on the 8/256 device. It is possible that we may be able to find a way to use QXDM and stuff to enable additional bands regardless, but I wouldn't count on that. I spent the extra to get an 8/256 which now has the leaked global rom on it. The global software works great and I have atleast equivalent coverage to my work Pixel 2 XL, usually with slightly better signal levels.
I have no complaints about this device, the only thing I have noticed is it seems that the glass is not as hard on some units. I bought my wife an 8/256 device and she is not exactly gentle on her device. Her screen has no scratches, but mine has many already after about 2 months, and I'm pretty careful with my devices. And to be clear, these are light surface scratches that are only visible when tilting the device with the screen off, not something you can see with the screen on.
I have T Mobile. I get better reception on Mi Mix 3 than I got on both my Note 8 and my iPhone 7. I know this because there's a spot I park every day and the MiMix works there when the others didn't.
I got 96mbps on 4G LTE when I tested it.
Of note: I did have an original MiMix 1 and it was not good for reception. At all. But the 3 has something like 42 bands in, and it has the best reception of any phone I've had.
PWn3R said:
I would recommend spending the extra to get the 8/256 if there is any chance you are going to get a "chinese" version. The "global" version is *supposed* to have all the bands enabled on all storage/ram configurations. However, the chinese version only has full band support on the 8/256 device. It is possible that we may be able to find a way to use QXDM and stuff to enable additional bands regardless, but I wouldn't count on that. I spent the extra to get an 8/256 which now has the leaked global rom on it. The global software works great and I have atleast equivalent coverage to my work Pixel 2 XL, usually with slightly better signal levels.
I have no complaints about this device, the only thing I have noticed is it seems that the glass is not as hard on some units. I bought my wife an 8/256 device and she is not exactly gentle on her device. Her screen has no scratches, but mine has many already after about 2 months, and I'm pretty careful with my devices. And to be clear, these are light surface scratches that are only visible when tilting the device with the screen off, not something you can see with the screen on.
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So I just want to confirm. If I buy a mix 3 in China and then flash itd to a global ROM (e.g. EU) then I should have no issues using it in the US (I'll be on T-Mobile).
There is a serious problem to me not sure if it's because of Mi MIX or TMobile combination (Los Angeles area)
Same problem on my wife's MIX 2S and my MIX 3, both official global version and latest firmware.
When the phone is on wifi, even though the mobile connection looks connected, it might have been disconnected actually.
No call and message will come through. People's calls will go to voice mail.
You will not know that until someone tell you they can't call you on the phone, or when turning off wifi suddently all missing text/MMS messages will arrive.
I'm still searching on more information on this and if some others have the same issue.
One of you friends used to have similar issues using a Samsung Galaxy on TMobile before he switched to iPhone.
Working great here in MN on T-Mobile no issues at all. I have the global edition.
It works for the most part on Verizon (a carrier which doesn't technically support it), the only issues I have are with MMS messaging (which is fixed in another thread) and my mobile hotspot which Verizon seems to be unable to turn on properly. Other than that I haven't had any issues. I would imagine on a GSM carrier like T-Mobile you would see even fewer problems, if any.
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It works for the most part on Verizon (a carrier which doesn't technically support it), the only issues I have are with MMS messaging (which is fixed in another thread) and my mobile hotspot which Verizon seems to be unable to turn on properly. Other than that I haven't had any issues. I would imagine on a GSM carrier like T-Mobile you would see even fewer problems, if any.
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How did you get it to work with Verizon? I entered my IMEI and it isn't compatible.
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How did you get it to work with Verizon? I entered my IMEI and it isn't compatible.
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All you need to do is pop in a Verizon SIM card and change the APN settings and it'll work. Sometimes the SIM card won't let you change them (because Verizon locks them down), but that didn't happen to me. If that's the case, grab someone else's SIM card that has like T-Mobile, put it in your phone, add a new APN, then put the Verizon one back in and select the APN you made. I detailed the settings you need to set in these posts: _1_, _2_. If you need any additional help let me know.
Also, if you want to enable VoLTE check out this thread.
Hi all,
I was under the impression (could be wrong), unlike the OG Pixel and Pixel 2, the Pixel 3 series does not allow carrier's own firmware, which means everything it maintained by Google, such as VoLTE/VoWifi support.
With OG Pixel and Pixel 2, I know the ones directly purchased from Google may not always have VoLTE/VoWifi working with certain carriers. Is this the still the case with Pixel 3 series?
Cheers.
Currently every phone must be approved/whitelisted by carrier for VoLTE / VoWiFi or you must download carrier's app for VoWiFi (if they released it).
It's a good will of a carrier if they approve phones that are not sold by them.
I just noticed this on Google's website (Google support website link). The Pixel 5 has band N77 in the snapdragon 765G, so I believe Verizon c-band will eventually be on this phone.
I have a Pixel 5,but I'm not going to hold my breath on it ever being Certified for C-band and if you bought it from Google like I did I'm thinking it's even less likely to get Certified.
The Pixel 5 has band n77, but as of right now it isn't activated in the modem configuration (verified with Network Signal Guru).
I had assumed that the Pixel 5 would be enabled for C-band, but I was getting concerned after all of the launch info from Verizon only mentioned the Pixel 6 (Pro). Just found this though, so it looks like we will (eventually) get it with a software update!
gwillmer said:
The Pixel 5 has band n77, but as of right now it isn't activated in the modem configuration (verified with Network Signal Guru).
I had assumed that the Pixel 5 would be enabled for C-band, but I was getting concerned after all of the launch info from Verizon only mentioned the Pixel 6 (Pro). Just found this though, so it looks like we will (eventually) get it with a software update!
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That link says it won't be updated via software:
The devices below were manufactured in 2019 and 2020 and can access our 5G Ultra Wideband high-band (mmWave) only. These devices aren't eligible for a software update to enable mid-band (C-Band) access.
Google
Pixel 4a 5G UW
Pixel 5
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That link says it won't be updated via software:
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They changed it! It definitely had the Pixel 5 in the first list with the Pixel 6 and 6 Pro. Ugh. Not cool.
Well, I've already been poking around with various Qualcomm tools to see if I can enable it. I'll report back if I have any success.
gwillmer said:
They changed it! It definitely had the Pixel 5 in the first list with the Pixel 6 and 6 Pro. Ugh. Not cool.
Well, I've already been poking around with various Qualcomm tools to see if I can enable it. I'll report back if I have any success.
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Please do follow up if you find anything. Very not cool of them, I just bought a 5 because of that list (before it was updated)...
RUGGNATION said:
Please do follow up if you find anything. Very not cool of them, I just bought a 5 because of that list (before it was updated)...
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Just checking in. It's not actually working yet, but I do at least have it reporting that it's band 77 capable when communicating with the tower. It still isn't actually able to complete the connection though (NSG shows that it briefly switches to NR-NSA, but then immediately back to LTE), so there's still something else missing in the configuration...
(major caveat: a Pixel 5 with root/an unlockable bootloader is required, which unfortunately excludes the Pixel 5 sold by Verizon)
Got it!!! NSG screenshots attached showing a connection on band n77, all supported NR bands for EN-DC (LTE+NR5G), and a speed test.
I need to do more testing before sharing because I definitely changed way more than necessary, and it'll take me a little bit to figure exactly which of the changes are actually required. But it is definitely doable and I'll write instructions up sometime this week(end)!
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(major caveat: a Pixel 5 with root/an unlockable bootloader is required, which unfortunately excludes the Pixel 5 sold by Verizon)
Got it!!! NSG screenshots attached showing a connection on band n77, all supported NR bands for EN-DC (LTE+NR5G), and a speed test.
I need to do more testing before sharing because I definitely changed way more than necessary, and it'll take me a little bit to figure exactly which of the changes are actually required. But it is definitely doable and I'll write instructions up sometime this week(end)!
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How's your testing going so far have you made any progress?
Just saw this today. No plans for C band support for the 765G phones (4a 5g, 5, and 5a).
@gwillmer hasn't been online since 2/11, hope all is well.
V0latyle said:
Just saw this today. No plans for C band support for the 765G phones (4a 5g, 5, and 5a).
@gwillmer hasn't been online since 2/11, hope all is well.
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Do you know if there is a hardware issue that is preventing our phones from using the C band because we have been approved by the FCC but Verizon said they will not push a software update for C band to our phone.
Hi Fellow Pixel 5 owners. I am saddened by the news that recently was released about our phones. I like RUGGNATION bought this phone because on Google's spec sheet it had all the bands required for 5g in the foreseeable future. I was confident that since it was still getting OS and Security updates they would not abandon it as they did. I have been rocking a Nexus 6 and a Pixel XL for years thanks to the LineageOS project. The Pixel 5 is the first phone I have owned in years that is still currently supported. I was planning on flashing LineageOS when Google's support was over. I was willing to pay a bit more for a futureproofish phone. I am sure a lot of other people thought the same. I am thinking about selling it on SellCell since it would just be easier to get a Pixel 6.
I am curious if anyone has any knowledge, or knows anyone that knows about the tools gwillmer was using when he unlocked his modem to work on the C-Band. I would rather root my phone now and install a solution that all Pixel 5 owners can implement if there is any realistic hope for a reasonably easy solution. I am impressed by the work that the developers do to responsibly keep Android phones working longer than the time the manufacturers support them officially. I keep thinking about using an Apple product but am not sure I want to give up the control over my hardware that this and other developer communities provide in the aftermarket.
Let me know if anyone has any hope that we will be able to use this phone on C Band !
manifestor said:
Hi Fellow Pixel 5 owners. I am saddened by the news that recently was released about our phones. I like RUGGNATION bought this phone because on Google's spec sheet it had all the bands required for 5g in the foreseeable future. I was confident that since it was still getting OS and Security updates they would not abandon it as they did. I have been rocking a Nexus 6 and a Pixel XL for years thanks to the LineageOS project. The Pixel 5 is the first phone I have owned in years that is still currently supported. I was planning on flashing LineageOS when Google's support was over. I was willing to pay a bit more for a futureproofish phone. I am sure a lot of other people thought the same. I am thinking about selling it on SellCell since it would just be easier to get a Pixel 6.
I am curious if anyone has any knowledge, or knows anyone that knows about the tools gwillmer was using when he unlocked his modem to work on the C-Band. I would rather root my phone now and install a solution that all Pixel 5 owners can implement if there is any realistic hope for a reasonably easy solution. I am impressed by the work that the developers do to responsibly keep Android phones working longer than the time the manufacturers support them officially. I keep thinking about using an Apple product but am not sure I want to give up the control over my hardware that this and other developer communities provide in the aftermarket.
Let me know if anyone has any hope that we will be able to use this phone on C Band !
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Network Signal Guru is the app that was used and it cost $50 a month to use it. You can download it from the Google Play Store and make the purchase through the app.
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(major caveat: a Pixel 5 with root/an unlockable bootloader is required, which unfortunately excludes the Pixel 5 sold by Verizon)
Got it!!! NSG screenshots attached showing a connection on band n77, all supported NR bands for EN-DC (LTE+NR5G), and a speed test.
I need to do more testing before sharing because I definitely changed way more than necessary, and it'll take me a little bit to figure exactly which of the changes are actually required. But it is definitely doable and I'll write instructions up sometime this week(end)!
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Hey, are you able to share which files in the EFS you changed? There are a number of files under /Google/ such as *_certified_bands.txt files which have lists of bands per network PLMN (MCC-MNC). Then, then, there are the carrier policies.
I've been trying to get this working on the March update, to no avail. I did see in the hardware NR combinations that 66-2_n77 is at least still supported, I just don't know which EFS file is the culprit in enabling them.
Thanks!
Is the QPST tool going to be the tool to use to look at this?
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Is the QPST tool going to be the tool to use to look at this?
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Correct, we'll need to make some changes in the EFS using QPST.
gwillmer said:
(major caveat: a Pixel 5 with root/an unlockable bootloader is required, which unfortunately excludes the Pixel 5 sold by Verizon)
Got it!!! NSG screenshots attached showing a connection on band n77, all supported NR bands for EN-DC (LTE+NR5G), and a speed test.
I need to do more testing before sharing because I definitely changed way more than necessary, and it'll take me a little bit to figure exactly which of the changes are actually required. But it is definitely doable and I'll write instructions up sometime this week(end)!
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Any update?
Can you share what you did to get it? Please share any information it's been quite a while so I don't know what's going on
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Correct, we'll need to make some changes in the EFS using QPST.
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Did you try the method of editing "generic_band_restrictions.xml" that worked for the OnePlus 9/9Pro users here:
(Updated 5/21/23) How to enable N77 C-Band with 5G UW icon on OnePlus 9/9 Pro 5G (LE2115/LE2125) | Oxygen OS 11-13.1 with Custom ROM support | Verizon
How to enable N77/N78 5G on the LE2115/LE2125 OnePlus 9/9 Pro running Oxygen OS 11-13.1 Before we start, keep in mind the following: Your warranty is now void. I am not responsible for bricked devices, dead SD cards, thermonuclear war, or you...
forum.xda-developers.com
I'm not on stock firmware otherwise I'd give it a go.
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Did you try the method of editing "generic_band_restrictions.xml" that worked for the OnePlus 9/9Pro users here:
(Updated 5/21/23) How to enable N77 C-Band with 5G UW icon on OnePlus 9/9 Pro 5G (LE2115/LE2125) | Oxygen OS 11-13.1 with Custom ROM support | Verizon
How to enable N77/N78 5G on the LE2115/LE2125 OnePlus 9/9 Pro running Oxygen OS 11-13.1 Before we start, keep in mind the following: Your warranty is now void. I am not responsible for bricked devices, dead SD cards, thermonuclear war, or you...
forum.xda-developers.com
I'm not on stock firmware otherwise I'd give it a go.
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I created this guide, and unfortunately it only works for Oxygen OS 11/Android 11, on Oxygen OS 12/Android 12 and newer it does not, after a while the phone adds back the exclusion of N77, I don't know if this is an Oxygen OS "feature" or an Android 12 "feature" I have not figured out a way on how to make it stick, if anyone has any idea on how to fix it, help would be greatly appreciated!
Edit: Well I don't know how, but it seems like I enabled N77 (or N78 idk) on Oxygen OS 13/Android 13 I somewhat have an idea of what I did, so I will create a new guide, however, this does require root.
Picture on the left is Engineering Mode, no idea Stock Android has it, picture on the right is Network Signal Guru. I don't know why NSG shows N77 while Engineering mode shows N78.
any update on this whole thing
It seems both of them are for US region. However, what is the difference?
Most likely one is a carrier-specific variant. The difference would be the particular cellular bands it uses.
This page suggests the G02099 supports CDMA... So it might be a sprint/Verizon model (or this page is just misinformed). https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/prod...gle_ga02099_us_pixel_4a_128gb_smartphone.html
But then this page says the G025 also supports CDMA so
Google Pixel 4a (G025J) - Specs
Full specifications phone: Google Pixel 4a (G025J) specs, detailed technical information, features, price and review. All about this phone.
www.phonemore.com
This page maybe suggests no differences so ... Maybe they're made in different factories but otherwise the same?
Google Pixel 4a - Full phone specifications
m.gsmarena.com
There are 2 colours listed... Surely the colour doesn't change the model but
Google delivers Android 13 December 2022 update for Pixel 7 and Pixel 7 Pro
Google has announced a major feature update for Pixel smartphones running Android 13. As of the December 2022 update, the likes of the Pixel 7 and Pixel 7 Pro support a dedicated reader mode and can share digital car keys with other compatible smartphones, among other changes.
www.notebookcheck.net
I put mine on the beta channel release. Coming from a P6P, using straight talk, it would not accept the sim.
Called Straight talk, which was useless. They said I had to buy a new sim card. Saw on a thread here that the
beta channel rom fixed it. Sure enough! After reboot, the sim card worked!
I was expecting 5g update, disappointing...
Nothing here. UK Sim free.
eagledipesh said:
I was expecting 5g update, disappointing...
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I wouldn't hold your breath. They either chose horrible hardware, don't know how to fix it, or won't because we will buy a new Pixel. With that being said, I actually think that the 7 Pro is an improvement over the 6 pro. My battery and performance is dramatically improved because of the updated Tensor chip and I don't have the cell standby bug that plagued me in the 6 pro.
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I was expecting 5g update, disappointing...
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This isn't the full release notes.
That article from notebookcheck.net referencing the Google Blog only concerns the "Android Feature Update", which is for GMS Android users. There is also a "Pixel Feature Drop" which Pixel users will likely get tomorrow. Plus there will likely be other "fixes" and whatnot.
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I wouldn't hold your breath. They either chose horrible hardware, don't know how to fix it, or won't because we will buy a new Pixel. With that being said, I actually think that the 7 Pro is an improvement over the 6 pro. My battery and performance is dramatically improved because of the updated Tensor chip and I don't have the cell standby bug that plagued me in the 6 pro.
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Unfortunately for me the bug still exists P7P. I am not sure if different hardware release have different modems. But my phone is useless at the moment.
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Unfortunately for me the bug still exists P7P. I am not sure if different hardware release have different modems. But my phone is useless at the moment.
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What's your setup? I'm rooted custom kernel and 1 ESIM using Xfinity Mobile. I also didn't restore settings with 6 pro backup. I flashed BL and modem before clean flashing stock to root
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What's your setup? I'm rooted custom kernel and 1 ESIM using Xfinity Mobile. I also didn't restore settings with 6 pro backup. I flashed BL and modem before clean flashing stock to root
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I am in 5G unsupported country and I am using physical SIM I have tried to disable DSDS but it didn't seem to stick. I have tried with stock and beta QPR1 same result. Which custom kernel would you recommend? I think the issue is with the radio and the Samsung Shannon 5300G. I am not sure if there is a radio firmware I could try.
"I am in 5G unsupported country"
I fail to understand the complaints from people who live in "unsupported" countries!
Why would you even consider buying ANY phone that is unsupported in any way?
The fault is yours not Googles! YMMV
jaseman said:
"I am in 5G unsupported country"
I fail to understand the complaints from people who live in "unsupported" countries!
Why would you even consider buying ANY phone that is unsupported in any way?
The fault is yours not Googles! YMMV
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Probably because they wanted a pixel but Google only officially sells phones in like 4 countries (exaggerating but probably not by much). I want phones available outside of the USA all the time but my wonderful carrier (verizon) and to a degree the other carriers as well suck and want big money to certify the ability to use their towers (bands). Stuck mainly with iSheep, Samdung, One Plus (already settled) and Google (constant hardware problems).
It will be difficult for me to make you understand anything since you fail to understand simple things like why anyone would pick a Google phone instead of another brand. Anyway I had Nexus and Pixel phones in the past and they have worked just fine. I was very well aware 5G and VoLTE don't work and I was not after these features. I would be perfectly fine with just 4G. Mine Pixel 6 Pro and Pixel 2 XL worked flawlessly. I might have a faulty hardware I am not sure at this point. If you could not help me at least don't blame me for my choices, the money I have spent are mine not yours. Like I have said I know since the beginning some of the feature would not work and this was a risk I was willing to take since I wanted a "clean" android and rootable + unlocked bootloader (there are not many phone manufacturers offering such features). I was not expecting the Pixel to not support any well established telecom standards. Aside from that I live in Europe and I bought the phone from neighboring country. It is not from Japan or US/Canada with different bands.
@xpact , it might be your phone or possibly faulty modem hardware. I am in the US using the 7P7 (rooted, unlocked) without any issues (I keep 5G off) 99% of the time. Once in a while I have to restart my phone or turn airplane mode on and off because I would randomly lose service. Its pretty rare though and even less now after the November update.
Question for the group and I hope I'm in the right spot. I got my 7 pro last week. So I went to the Factory image page. I'm on Verizon so I took the verzon update. Now I see a update just for global. Should I wait on the Verizon or can I just install the global one? I'm new to Pixel experience.
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Question for the group and I hope I'm in the right spot. I got my 7 pro last week. So I went to the Factory image page. I'm on Verizon so I took the verzon update. Now I see a update just for global. Should I wait on the Verizon or can I just install the global one? I'm new to Pixel experience.
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You can install the global one.
foamerman said:
Question for the group and I hope I'm in the right spot. I got my 7 pro last week. So I went to the Factory image page. I'm on Verizon so I took the verzon update. Now I see a update just for global. Should I wait on the Verizon or can I just install the global one? I'm new to Pixel experience.
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I bought the unlocked P7P from Google and Verizon is my carrier. I have only been flashing the generic firmware to avoid VZW bloatware as much as possible. I haven't had any issues.
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It will be difficult for me to make you understand anything since you fail to understand simple things like why anyone would pick a Google phone instead of another brand. Anyway I had Nexus and Pixel phones in the past and they have worked just fine. I was very well aware 5G and VoLTE don't work and I was not after these features. I would be perfectly fine with just 4G. Mine Pixel 6 Pro and Pixel 2 XL worked flawlessly. I might have a faulty hardware I am not sure at this point. If you could not help me at least don't blame me for my choices, the money I have spent are mine not yours. Like I have said I know since the beginning some of the feature would not work and this was a risk I was willing to take since I wanted a "clean" android and rootable + unlocked bootloader (there are not many phone manufacturers offering such features). I was not expecting the Pixel to not support any well established telecom standards. Aside from that I live in Europe and I bought the phone from neighboring country. It is not from Japan or US/Canada with different bands.
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I'm in Europe too and have the p7p from Germany, all works fine, no faulty hardware at all. Where did you buy your phone? I'm on stock firmware but had rooted it and there was also no problems, I often think to myself wtf you are always doing with your phones?
Thanks guys. I'm off to see the Wizard.
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I'm in Europe too and have the p7p from Germany, all works fine, no faulty hardware at all. Where did you buy your phone? I'm on stock firmware but had rooted it and there was also no problems, I often think to myself wtf you are always doing with your phones?
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I bought it from Germany as well ) The previous pixel I had I bought it from UK and the Nexus 6P from UK as well. But the ones from UK I did not bought on first date but few months after they might had different hardware modem revisions.