Android Automotive OS and Google Mobile Services - General Questions and Answers

Hello All
This question is about the Android Automotive OS (AAOS) but, since I believe that the answer applied to the regular mobile Android would also work for the automotive version, I'll ask it here.
I'm dealing with a project focused on AAOS and one of its requirements is to be able to provide for the developers' access to the Google APIs contained in the GMS, or GAS in the automotive world.
The problem I'm facing is that the platform owner does not want to go through the process of Google Approval, which forbids him from using GAS.
Since rebuilding all the APPs isn't a solution that we are looking forward to, I would like to ask if there is any other solution to access Google APIs legally. Is there another partner that makes it easier to integrate these APIs? Are there legal limitations that forbid me from using other Google APIs providers, if any exists?
Thank you all in advance!

RaphaelMont said:
Hello All
This question is about the Android Automotive OS (AAOS) but, since I believe that the answer applied to the regular mobile Android would also work for the automotive version, I'll ask it here.
I'm dealing with a project focused on AAOS and one of its requirements is to be able to provide for the developers' access to the Google APIs contained in the GMS, or GAS in the automotive world.
The problem I'm facing is that the platform owner does not want to go through the process of Google Approval, which forbids him from using GAS.
Since rebuilding all the APPs isn't a solution that we are looking forward to, I would like to ask if there is any other solution to access Google APIs legally. Is there another partner that makes it easier to integrate these APIs? Are there legal limitations that forbid me from using other Google APIs providers, if any exists?
Thank you all in advance!
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Yeah I'm wondering this too. Trying to export a map.

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Official statement from Google regarding the Cyanogen controvery

I have no idea where this needs to be posted. There are a number of different threads regarding this topic, and I know at least one of them are locked. So mods, feel free to move, delete or merge this as you see fit.
Google, via the Android Developers Blog, issued a statement a short while back. Here it is ...
A Note on Google Apps for Android
Posted by Dan Morrill on 25 September 2009 at 2:31 PM
Lately we've been busy bees in Mountain View, as you can see from the recent release of Android 1.6 to the open-source tree, not to mention some devices we're working on with partners that we think you'll really like. Of course, the community isn't sitting around either, and we've been seeing some really cool and impressive things, such as the custom Android builds that are popular with many enthusiasts. Recently there's been some discussion about an exchange we had with the developer of one of those builds, and I've noticed some confusion around what is and isn't part of Android's open source code. I want to take a few moments to clear up some of those misconceptions, and explain how Google's apps for Android fit in.
Everyone knows that mobile is a big deal, but for a long time it was hard to be a mobile app developer. Competing interests and the slow pace of platform innovation made it hard to create innovative apps. For our part, Google offers a lot of services — such as Google Search, Google Maps, and so on — and we found delivering those services to users' phones to be a very frustrating experience. But we also found that we weren't alone, so we formed the Open Handset Alliance, a group of like-minded partners, and created Android to be the platform that we all wished we had. To encourage broad adoption, we arranged for Android to be open-source. Google also created and operates Android Market as a service for developers to distribute their apps to Android users. In other words, we created Android because the industry needed an injection of openness. Today, we're thrilled to see all the enthusiasm that developers, users, and others in the mobile industry have shown toward Android.
With a high-quality open platform in hand, we then returned to our goal of making our services available on users' phones. That's why we developed Android apps for many of our services like YouTube, Gmail, Google Voice, and so on. These apps are Google's way of benefiting from Android in the same way that any other developer can, but the apps are not part of the Android platform itself. We make some of these apps available to users of any Android-powered device via Android Market, and others are pre-installed on some phones through business deals. Either way, these apps aren't open source, and that's why they aren't included in the Android source code repository. Unauthorized distribution of this software harms us just like it would any other business, even if it's done with the best of intentions.
I hope that clears up some of the confusion around Google's apps for Android. We always love seeing novel uses of Android, including custom Android builds from developers who see a need. I look forward to seeing what comes next!
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Source:
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2009/09/note-on-google-apps-for-android.html
Yep, it's over.
We're still asking for community access to these applications that are almost essential to the current Android experience. I really doubt it's hurting their bottom line substantially enough to justify the killing of their distribution.
In other words, Mr. Morrill's post was pretty much a sugarcoated attempt to gain some of the PR they lost.
We always love seeing novel uses of Android, including custom Android builds from developers who see a need.
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A "novel" use from a developer who "sees a need" is quite a way to describe a substantially improved version of your OS.
So what is the conclusion? A lot of the things could be replaced, but as mentioned before, the sync tools and so forth are tricky to get around. What is the next step from here?
cyanogen said:
Yep, it's over.
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How so? What would be wrong with releasing the ROM without the google apps, but have a script or something that runs on first boot that installs the missing apps?
cyanogen said:
Yep, it's over.
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So no more ROMs? Or no more ROMs with close-source apps?
AquaVita said:
How so? What would be wrong with releasing the ROM without the google apps, but have a script or something that runs on first boot that installs the missing apps?
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It's still illegal. A clever trick to walk around the legal fine print. But in essence, it's illegal...
AquaVita said:
How so? What would be wrong with releasing the ROM without the google apps, but have a script or something that runs on first boot that installs the missing apps?
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Without the basic function to sign into the device using your Google credentials, the ROM is useless. You can't just grab them from another build (as far as I know) because of the way they are tied in at compiling to the framework. So you would have to pull the ROM, grab the proprietary pieces from somewhere else, and compile the source yourself.
Right?
To touch on this in another way, what would it take for Cyanogen to become a licensed distributor of Google's Apps for Android? If there are really 30,000 users, couldn't legal fees be gathered from them? And, couldn't the business license be set up as a Not-For-Profit? Like the Association of Cyanogen Followers? If it were, wouldn't the required fees to license the distribution rights of the software be tax-free and operating expenses for the association? Meaning, any costs for running the business could be taken out of membership dues and donations? With the rest being tax write-offs?
Just a thought, as I would love to see this made legit, 4.0.4 is great, but I don't want this to stop here.... selfish I know, but it's the truth.
AquaVita said:
How so? What would be wrong with releasing the ROM without the google apps, but have a script or something that runs on first boot that installs the missing apps?
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I guees thats no way. What if you have a wipe? No APNs or anything else? You cant dowmload "Market" als a single-app directly from google (as i know).
daveid said:
Without the basic function to sign into the device using your Google credentials, the ROM is useless. You can't just grab them from another build (as far as I know) because of the way they are tied in at compiling to the framework. So you would have to pull the ROM, grab the proprietary pieces from somewhere else, and compile the source yourself.
Right?
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Then what the hell is google talking about "encouraging other ROM releases"? If that isn't possible without some pieces of Google software, then is it literally impossible to develop a custom ROM for android?
Thoughts, Cyanogen?
As soon as my contract is I am Too! I can predict a mass exit from android and google!
daveid said:
Without the basic function to sign into the device using your Google credentials, the ROM is useless. You can't just grab them from another build (as far as I know) because of the way they are tied in at compiling to the framework. So you would have to pull the ROM, grab the proprietary pieces from somewhere else, and compile the source yourself.
Right?
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Is this true? If its proprietary how did CY compile them in the first place? In order to compile don't you need access to the source?
So just come up with replacements for those apps that are closed source and not available on the market...
Devs WILL find a way... I guarantee you
But yeah, Google SUCKS on this...They could have just given him limited licensing...
Without a doubt the most foolish decision I've seen Google make in terms of Android so far. This puts a major damper on a community that was helping make Android better in very real ways.
The only explanation I can come up with is that the closed apps use 3rd party licensed code that Google can't redistribute. Otherwise this is just completely boneheaded.
Google said:
With a high-quality open platform in hand, we then returned to our goal of making our services available on users' phones. That's why we developed Android apps for many of our services like YouTube, Gmail, Google Voice, and so on. These apps are Google's way of benefiting from Android in the same way that any other developer can, but the apps are not part of the Android platform itself. We make some of these apps available to users of any Android-powered device via Android Market, and others are pre-installed on some phones through business deals. Either way, these apps aren't open source, and that's why they aren't included in the Android source code repository. Unauthorized distribution of this software harms us just like it would any other business, even if it's done with the best of intentions.
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They claim these apps (YouTube, Gmail, etc) are Googles way to benefiting from Android, but they are not distributed with all android phones? I understand that companies license these applications from Google, but how does it hurt them if they are installed on a device that would already have them?
Then they say "We make some of these apps available to users of any Android-powered device via Android Market", yet this entire thing came about because the Android Market is being distributed? How can any device get these if the market is one thing that can not be distributed?
I paid for the ADP1, which came with Gmail, YouTube and the other applications. The ADP1 feature was that I could flash any ROM I wanted to on the device, but now they are telling me that I can't put one on there if it contains their applications that my device had in the first place.
Hello Google, welcome to the the Dark side, so much for "Don't be evil"
I will help with anything I can on a project to replace the Google Products.
AquaVita said:
How so? What would be wrong with releasing the ROM without the google apps, but have a script or something that runs on first boot that installs the missing apps?
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ya i was thinking the same .i mean if not ,how do we get gmail ,youtube,ect?do we have to download from market ? some are not in market like youtube.i use gmail all the time .
Do the current Roms have to pulled?
That shiny device with an Apple on it is looking mighty delicious
CyanogenMod officially done now:
http://twitter.com/cyanogen
"Sorry everyone, CyanogenMod in it's current state is done. I am violating Google's license by redistributing their applications."
dwang said:
Is this true? If its proprietary how did CY compile them in the first place? In order to compile don't you need access to the source?
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I had assumed that they were "reverse-engineered" using something like baksmali, to gain access to the source.... I could be wrong.

[Q] Please help Developing an Android Map App for a company as part of a project

Hi I'm Mark a Web development student in my final year.
Basically for my final project were working with an external company that want stuff done for free or very close, this includes an android app.
The app im going to try to make will be private for the company to give out locations using google maps and gps/geolocation.
The app will be distributed through the site we are developing to certain users and not featured on the marketplace due to privacy issues.
Problem is I've never developed for android or any mobile platforms and have an extremely basic knowledge of Java but i mainly develop for web and windows using c# so naturally I have a few questions for people with experience in android development.
1. Is it possible to have the app powered by google maps?
2. Any suggestions of how one user will be able to upload gps coordinates to this app?
3. Rough idea of how long it would take e.g. few hours, few days, few months?
4. Overall is it possible, any problems I might run into?
5 Any Advice, tips,or better suggestions?
Thanks a lot for reading this far, any answers or help would be greatly appreciated.

Map app looking for suggestions and/or some help

Basically for my final project were working with an external company that want stuff done for free or very close, this includes an android app.
The app im going to try to make will be private for the company to give out locations using google maps and gps/geolocation.
The app will be distributed through the site we are developing to certain users and not featured on the marketplace due to privacy issues.
Problem is I've never developed for android or any mobile platforms and have an extremely basic knowledge of Java but i mainly develop for web and windows using c# so naturally I have a few questions for people with experience in android development.
1. Is it possible to have the app powered by google maps?
2. Any suggestions of how one user will be able to upload gps coordinates to this app?
3. Rough idea of how long it would take e.g. few hours, few days, few months?
4. Overall is it possible, any problems I might run into?
5 Any Advice, tips,or better suggestions?
Thanks a lot for reading this far, any answers or help would be greatly appreciated.

[Q] Where do I start?

OK people
I’m pretty good with IT and the written word but have no coding experience whatsoever. I want to develop a phone App (both iPhone and Android).
The app will include Google mapping technology, Facebook check in capability, account sign up and message system to fellow subscribers and push notifications triggered by geographical location and in app advertising.
I know there are different web based services and software for App development. But I am totally overwhelmed over where to start and I’d rather not learn to code from scratch.
If anyone could point me in the direction of any required reading/research, web tutorials or lectures I would be most grateful. Or if there is software that would allow me to develop the app easily. I don’t really like to idea of signing up with an online service in case I want to move the app to a business model in the future.
Alternatively any affordable services that allow me to keep full control of the app even if I unsubscribe could work.
Thanks in advance
Rumski
This will be useful for you..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1914819

Interesting project LocalSTT

What is LocalSTT?
LocalSTT is an Android Speech Recognition Service using Vosk/Kaldi and Mozilla DeepSpeech.
GitHub - ccoreilly/LocalSTT: Android Speech Recognition Service using Vosk/Kaldi and Mozilla DeepSpeech
Android Speech Recognition Service using Vosk/Kaldi and Mozilla DeepSpeech - GitHub - ccoreilly/LocalSTT: Android Speech Recognition Service using Vosk/Kaldi and Mozilla DeepSpeech
github.com
I stumbled upon this while trying to find a way to regain the ability to use voice typing after getting rid of the Google app.
I'm not a developer and honestly don't have any idea how any of it works. Its easy to get the needed packages on there though.
It's a PoC right now, but I believe it has some awesome potential, especially for those who develop or want an environment that's free of Google.
I have decided to share this here to get the Dev and their project some exposure.
Here is a demo video on YouTube :
Good to see. I've been using Saiy for years, and before that (also developed by Ben Randall) Utter!, but Ben has abandoned this project which had so much promise. Looking forward to a contemporary voice assistant that is (A) local rather than requiring a data connection (B) Dynamic in terms of a development path. I had hopes for Almond for a while but the Android development was abandoned.
gbossley said:
Good to see. I've been using Saiy for years, and before that (also developed by Ben Randall) Utter!, but Ben has abandoned this project which had so much promise. Looking forward to a contemporary voice assistant that is (A) local rather than requiring a data connection (B) Dynamic in terms of a development path. I had hopes for Almond for a while but the Android development was abandoned.
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I wonder why these projects always seem to get abandoned?
Thatdad said:
I wonder why these projects always seem to get abandoned?
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Ben went off and got a 'real' job. I think some are quite possibly choked off by organisations that see them as a threat? Ben always promised to make Saiy open-source but it never happened. As it is, I still think it's awesome, and can do what this app is proposing to do "Remember this: I'm having an awesome day" "I've remembered that, it's posted to the clipboard".
It's still relevant and I'll take some convincing to change, despite no work on it for 4 years or more.
If someone could make a simple apk of CoqUI SST/TTS that would be great.

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