No, not wifi. Apparently I can't do auto wifi tethering in Android 11 (my phone) without root on the phone.
I don't want to have to manually enable hotspot every time I get in the car.
Has anyone figured out a way to get the USB or Bluetooth tethering to work on these units?
My phone says USB tethering enabled. I get the notification in the window shade, but nothing on the unit.
What kind of phone? On my Samsung, I use the Bixby stuff which is like Tasker and Macrodroid. It's built-in so I tried it and works well enough. I have a routine that turns on my Wifi hotspot automatically when the phone connects to my car head unit through Bluetooth. The hotspot automatically shuts of when there have been no device connected for a certain amount of time. I think that's an Android setting.
In another thread, it was suggested that this app was working fine and stable:
Bluetooth Tethering Manager - Apps on Google Play
Sharing the internet connection's never been so easy.
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That was for a different head unit. Give it a try and let us know how it works.
mastrv said:
What kind of phone? On my Samsung, I use the Bixby stuff which is like Tasker and Macrodroid. It's built-in so I tried it and works well enough. I have a routine that turns on my Wifi hotspot automatically when the phone connects to my car head unit through Bluetooth. The hotspot automatically shuts of when there have been no device connected for a certain amount of time. I think that's an Android setting.
In another thread, it was suggested that this app was working fine and stable:
Bluetooth Tethering Manager - Apps on Google Play
Sharing the internet connection's never been so easy.
play.google.com
That was for a different head unit. Give it a try and let us know how it works.
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Maybe I'm overthinking it then. The hotspot option seems to work on my phone fairly well. I set it to never timeout . Only connect to my cars MAC address.
However when I connect to wifi it turns the hotspot off. So I have to manually re-enable it.
I tried using macrodroid once before to turn hotspot on when Bluetooth connects, but it doesn't seem compatible with Android 11's security setup.. Without root and tasker.
The Bluetooth tether sort of worked initially. Once I got to driving, it kept cutting off and then eventually stopped giving the HU access at all, even though both servers were running on the phone and unit.
The other Bluetooth tether I've tried didn't work at all
@watson540 When I'm modifying the Bixby routine for turning on my phone's hotspot, it doesn't let me do anything with the wifi connection. It thinks they're related somehow and that wifi should be off when the hotspot is on. In any case, I have wifi off on my phone when my head unit is connected to my phone's hotspot. All works fine.
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@watson540 When I'm modifying the Bixby routine for turning on my phone's hotspot, it doesn't let me do anything with the wifi connection. It thinks they're related somehow and that wifi should be off when the hotspot is on. In any case, I have wifi off on my phone when my head unit is connected to my phone's hotspot. All works fine.
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That is default Android (look on Android developer). On a hotspot you create a WiFi hotspot and share via mobile data. That is why you can't use WiFi at the same time.
There are very few phones that really can share the WiFi itself. As such this is logical. If there is WiFi, why can't the other phone connect to that WiFi?
It is designed for places where there is no WiFi, but where at least one phone has mobile data which it can share.
That it works differently on Linux, MacOS, ChromeOS and Windows is something else. These devices mostly don't have mobile data at all as they are not phones.
Yes. A phone only has one wifi chip. It can use it to be a client or a server, but not both at once.
That's why enabling hotspot turns wifi off. Enabling wifi turns hotspot off.
The challenge is.. In Android 11 (without Bixby)... How to enable hotspot through some app. Macrodroid can't do it. The app where you create "flows" isn't capable either. I THINK tasker would do it, but only with root from what I previously read. I can't get root because my bootloader is locked.
That's why I was shooting for Bluetooth or USB tether.
It's frustrating because Bluetooth tether in a baked in option in Android 11,as is USB tether.. But the head unit doesn't recognize it or use it.
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The challenge is.. In Android 11 (without Bixby)... How to enable hotspot through some app. Macrodroid can't do it. The app where you create "flows" isn't capable either. I THINK tasker would do it, but only with root from what I previously read. I can't get root because my bootloader is locked.
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Since 4-5 months I have Samsung A52 on Android 11. Macrodroid just works fine with enabling the hotspot when my phone connects to the head unit on bluetooth. No root necessary. Thanks to the mentioning about Bixby a few days ago, I am now doing it with Bixby Routines, using an old unit on the bench as I am still waiting for my new unit for my "new" car.
With regard to bluetooth tethering to this unit. Already in 2015 lbdroid (who goes under at least 5 synonyms) wrote his blutoothTethering apks. It works with installing the app on your phone AND on the unit. See his github and his blogpost. I have used it on my first and second unit, and purely out of laziness I simply used WiFi tethering on my 3rd and 4th unit.
(And yes, blutooth is spelled correct when I refer to his apk).
Okay, so I got USB tethering to work and it's beautiful- but bittersweet...
It ONLY works if you reboot the head unit with the USB cable already plugged in. Once you take the cable out, it won't come back if you plug back in. Only with a reboot does it work
@surfer63 - you're the guru around here. How can a trigger be made to enable this on a plug-in of USB?, Or maybe a constant poll every thirty seconds?
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That is default Android (look on Android developer). On a hotspot you create a WiFi hotspot and share via mobile data. That is why you can't use WiFi at the same time.
There are very few phones that really can share the WiFi itself. As such this is logical. If there is WiFi, why can't the other phone connect to that WiFi?
It is designed for places where there is no WiFi, but where at least one phone has mobile data which it can share.
That it works differently on Linux, MacOS, ChromeOS and Windows is something else. These devices mostly don't have mobile data at all as they are not phones.
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I agree. I believed that it was supposed to work this way where WiFi can't be used while the hotspot is active. However, on my Samsung A51, I can have WiFi and/or mobile data active at the same time as my hotspot. I turn off mobile data and while my phone is connected to my home router through WiFi, I can create a WiFi hotspot. When I've done this, I can still access the internet and my home network from my phone. I have to connect to my 2.4MHz band in order for it to work as a hotspot on my head unit. If I'm connected to the 5MHz band, my phone shows a warning that some clients, that don't support 5MHz, may not be able to connect to the hotspot.
Having the WiFi active while the hotspot is active only causes an issue for me when I'm connected to my home access point. I have a VPN server running on my home router/network. When I VPN from my phone to my home with the WiFi on, I can't access the internet or my home network. I think the routing gets all messed up. In any case, it's not an issue for me...any longer.
I was trying to set up my head unit to access the internet and my home network through the VPN on my phone. I found out that when you use a hot spot (in Android), you cannot access the VPN and the data does not go through the VPN on the hotspot. I don't know why...it may be an Android or a network thing. So, I set up a VPN client on the head unit instead and it connects to my home network fine through the phone hot spot. Now, I just have to figure out how to automatically set up the VPN client on the head unit to automatically connect when it is started and possibly exclude some apps so that the data for those don't go through the VPN.
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Okay, so I got USB tethering to work and it's beautiful- but bittersweet...
It ONLY works if you reboot the head unit with the USB cable already plugged in. Once you take the cable out, it won't come back if you plug back in. Only with a reboot does it work
How can a trigger be made to enable this on a plug-in of USB?, Or maybe a constant poll every thirty seconds?
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I never looked into lbroid's code for this blutooth apk, but I suppose it should be possible to add some code to check on the "USB device connected" event, and use that to initialize again. (It would of course also require the request for authorization for that USB event).
Or as a workaround: try it from the other side. Install MacroDroid on your unit. Check if a USB device gets connected and at the same time you have BT connection with your phone, and then start the apk on your unit.
Edit: This might require to first stop the app (if running), pause for a few seconds, and then start the app.
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Okay, so I got USB tethering to work and it's beautiful- but bittersweet...
It ONLY works if you reboot the head unit with the USB cable already plugged in. Once you take the cable out, it won't come back if you plug back in. Only with a reboot does it work
How can a trigger be made to enable this on a plug-in of USB?, Or maybe a constant poll every thirty seconds?
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Sorry. You put me totally on the wrong track.
I simply overlooked you were taliking about USB-tethering. The previous posts were about Bluetooth tetering.
So my answer might still be interesting for those who want Bluetooth tetering: See also my github where I rebuilt lbdroid's version (nov 2019) with an apk in the releases section.
Nothing creative. Just a copy with an extended readme.
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Sorry. You put me totally on the wrong track.
I simply overlooked you were taliking about USB-tethering. The previous posts were about Bluetooth tetering.
So my answer might still be interesting for those who want Bluetooth tetering: See also my github where I rebuilt lbdroid's version (nov 2019) with an apk in the releases section.
Nothing creative. Just a copy with an extended readme.
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I'll take either/or
It appears that my phone doesn't start USB tethering until I unlock it anyway. So it may HAVE to be Bluetooth... which is fine
I did try macrodroid on the HU to try and trigger the USB tether action.
I looked into the logcat and saw some tethering events going on when I plugged the cable in. They get shut down for whatever reason.
I was able to bring the usb0 interface up with a simple ifconfig command in terminal, but no way to assign it an ip and routing (dhcpcd or dhclient) -- Android is just so far removed from Linux anymore, it's all handled in JAVA now, so I can't just write a shell script
I'll look into the Bluetooth method again
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So my answer might still be interesting for those who want Bluetooth tetering: See also my github where I rebuilt lbdroid's version (nov 2019) with an apk in the releases section.
Nothing creative. Just a copy with an extended readme.
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I mentioned that I had not looked at lbdroid's blutooth apk, but obviously I have. I simply completely forgot about it. Time flies and so do my memories.
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I mentioned that I had not looked at lbdroid's blutooth apk, but obviously I have. I simply completely forgot about it. Time flies and so do my memories.
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It looks promising. Doesn't work on this unit though.
I assume it's because fyt 7862 actually has 2 Bluetooth chips, and the first one is disabled. I guess it's spotty? I reckon the app is trying to attach to the primary Bluetooth, which is disabled through the rom?
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It looks promising. Doesn't work on this unit though.
I assume it's because fyt 7862 actually has 2 Bluetooth chips, and the first one is disabled. I guess it's spotty? I reckon the app is trying to attach to the primary Bluetooth, which is disabled through the rom?
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I don't know. At this moment I do not have a uis7862 and can't examine it.
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I don't know. At this moment I do not have a uis7862 and can't examine it.
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Looks like this app was built for a previous version of Android
BluetoothAdapter mBluetoothAdapter = BluetoothAdapter.getDefaultAdapter();
getDefaultAdapter has been deprecated since jellybean. I'd plug in the appropriate call, but I'm assuming that would just be the beginning of a whole host of other things to rewrite as well.
I'm not that dedicated
watson540 said:
Looks like this app was built for a previous version of Android
BluetoothAdapter mBluetoothAdapter = BluetoothAdapter.getDefaultAdapter();
getDefaultAdapter has been deprecated since jellybean. I'd plug in the appropriate call, but I'm assuming that would just be the beginning of a whole host of other things to rewrite as well.
I'm not that dedicated
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It was built for Android 5/6.
Since Android 7 and 8, many things have changed. In the access rights area, in the "run as a service" area, etcetera. It might require a complete rewrite.
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I assume it's because fyt 7862 actually has 2 Bluetooth chips
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Why do you think that?
In all the specs I can find it has only one BT chip being the Realtek 8761BTV (but again: only from theory).
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Why do you think that?
In all the specs I can find it has only one BT chip being the Realtek 8761BTV (but again: only from theory).
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I've seen it in my convoluted perusing. If you look on 4pda, people there talk about activating one or the other in build.prop or some other system related file.
I've seen what I believe is it in the Android settings (the real settings). It's named "carbt". I managed to connect my phone to it once. I never checked any hardwire IDs to verify it was indeed different, but I swear I've seen it mentioned over there. It's up to 384 pages now, so it's hard to keep up
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This is a new app, that allows you to reverse tether your android (access your computer's connection via usb).
It doesn't require any extra software, or windows installations, or ADB/debugging, or tech savviness, and your connection looks like 3G so that all your apps work seamlessly including Market, Downloads and Talk. it requires a rooted device.
As you can see the process is very simple and takes only a few seconds... the app is called Reverse Tether and it's on the android market now.
A new version has been released
thanks.....
Thanks for this. By any chance would this happen to work on USB Dongles? And how would you setup the connection?
I can't see why not. Just use the wizard that is integrated in the app to help you set it up. The best way to find out really is to try it yourself, worst case senario you uninstall it.
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Hi!
I'm trying to do this on a droid x with the Apex ROM. When I start the app, it says "Failed to start Tethering. Make sure this device supports or allows Tethering. Otherwise, you won't be able to use this app.
There's not a whole lot of instructions on how to do a 'usb reverse tether' out there with this app. I have my connection set to "PC Mode" and I'm running on osx. I have to imagine that there's something special that needs to be done on the PC end that the instructions just aren't saying...
Thanks
wiz561 said:
There's not a whole lot of instructions on how to do a 'usb reverse tether' out there with this app. I have my connection set to "PC Mode" and I'm running on osx.
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You don't need any instructions. It's just one button you click it and it's supposed to connect you.
Maybe it's because you have your connection set to "PC MODE"??? Dunno.
On some phones like mine, when it's set to PC mode you can't do anything else with it. So try to turn off PC mode, if you can't then set it to debugging, that will turn off for sure.
You can also test if tethering works on your device by going to settings > wireless and network - and enabling Tethering yourself.
Just curious as to why you would need this?
The phone has WiFi and/or the network.
thanks
Thanks for the info. I'll have to try this. I guess I just have a hard time believing that you just plug the phone in the computer and it automagically works. I would imagine you would have to bridge usb0 or do something.
I tried to enable the 'tether' mode and the computer sees usb0, but that's about as far as I get with it.
As for why I'm doing it... I don't want to be mean, rude, or start anything, but because I have to. I get annoyed because most of the 'reverse tether' threads ask 'why' and 'why not just use wifi', instead of posting something useful. Here's the reason.
When I'm at work, I'm in the middle of nowhere. I get no cell signal, even if trying to use a wilson repeater. I also get no wifi, since the AP's are far away from me. I can't install my own AP because of policies, so what other option do I have? Either a BT PAN or a USB reverse tether. I'm kinda pissed about it and why Verizon won't install anything to get a signal. I'm paying 90 bucks a month and can't use my phone for 8 hours a day.
Once you enable tether, keep it on and try running the app again while it's on. Maybe that will work.
Also, sorry, yes there's a guide in the app that helps you set up your computer, but it's just sharing, a one time thing.. you don't need to bridge anything. But to get there you need to get tether option working.
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Just curious as to why you would need this?
The phone has WiFi and/or the network.
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Why?
Not everyone have an unlimited mobile data plan. And if you have a limited plan, they're usually very expensive, so when you're at home or at work or at school why not spare your bytes and money?
And not everyone have access to WIFI or even need WIFI, it's silly to setup a WIFI network just for your phone. Besides, USB is musch faster, and more secure.
And since you're already connected to USB to recharge or sync, why not also have unlimited super fast internet for free?
RainZzz said:
Why?
Not everyone have an unlimited mobile data plan. And if you have a limited plan, they're usually very expensive, so when you're at home or at work or at school why not spare your bytes and money?
And not everyone have access to WIFI or even need WIFI, it's silly to setup a WIFI network just for your phone. Besides, USB is musch faster, and more secure.
And since you're already connected to USB to recharge or sync, why not also have unlimited super fast internet for free?
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Why?
Not everyone have an unlimited mobile data plan. And if you have a limited plan, they're usually very expensive, so when you're at home or at work or at school why not spare your bytes and money?
And not everyone have access to WIFI or even need WIFI, it's silly to setup a WIFI network just for your phone. Besides, USB is musch faster, and more secure.
And since you're already connected to USB to recharge or sync, why not also have unlimited super fast internet for free?
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Yeah, I'm agree with RainZzz. This threads is useful. Thanks
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I'm wondering, has anybody got this working on a droid x with the Apex rom? I've just about tried everything. USB Tethering loads drivers in Windows and works fine. The reverse tethering app still says the same error message. I'm starting to wonder if it's not compatible with the dx.
Thanks!
Hey wiz561, have you by any chance tried the most recent version? It seems like your issue have been fixed according to What's New.
If you don't have access to update, you can dowload the Reverse Tether APK file from the developer's website.
Dongle Support
Not compatible with the Transformer Prime. Though I'd instantly donate if it would allow dongles to work.
My question earlier was referring to the compatibility of this app with 3G/4G dongles. I ask because aren't dongles required to connect first via their dashboard/software before sharing the internet via USB? If that's the case, how then would this app reverse tether the dongle's connection? Is there a settings page for these things?
I wonder if it doesn't work for some of us because we have a LAN connection instead a wifi router or ethernet cable connection as the app says...
bad.bad.bad, when you connect your dongle, aren't you supposed to see its own Network Adapter in your Network Connections? I mean that's how Windows works. So just follow the same steps but share that network adapter instead.
Same goes for Netagirl, an ethernet connection is a LAN connection. So whichever network adapter connects you to the internet, share it with your phone's network that is created by the app.
RainZzz said:
bad.bad.bad, when you connect your dongle, aren't you supposed to see its own Network Adapter in your Network Connections? I mean that's how Windows works. So just follow the same steps but share that network adapter instead.
Same goes for Netagirl, an ethernet connection is a LAN connection. So whichever network adapter connects you to the internet, share it with your phone's network that is created by the app.
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Yeah, I think I made a mistake, my connection from my pc to my external modem, is not via ethernet but USB, so I don't know if that affects. And yes, I do exactly what you said and the app says that I have to respect trial's limitation, at every single hour I'd try =/
I wonder how much battery consumption will reduce using this over wifi tethering... gonna have to try it out. Thanks
Hey everyone! Back home, I use Touchpad from Nullar (works fantastically) to control my PC and media players when I'm in bed or on my couch. However, I am now at school, and I cannot use WiFi in my room; I can't use Touchpad anymore. Has anyone attempted PC HID control via bluetooth or USB? I tried searching with several different keywords, but I was unsuccessful.
I don't think anybody has managed direct control over the USB connection yet, although we can manipulate it into a few known and pre-installed states (HID not being one of them, sorry). Bluetooth may be possible; we do have at least some access to the BT stack, although since it doesn't support HID natively either it would be quite a hack to get that working.
Are you disallowed WiFi for some reason, or do you just not have a WiFi network set up (and wow, are there really schools that still don't have WiFi in the dorms??)? A WiFi router is pretty cheap these days. Alternatively, it's possible to configure a PC's WiFi adapter to act like a WiFi access point, allowing the phoen to connect to it. I don't know for sure if Touchpad would work over that, but probably.
In theory, Touchpad should be possible over the Internet, though you'd need to open the firewall ports (whcih, depending on your school's network, might not be possible). Ot would lag, too.
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I don't think anybody has managed direct control over the USB connection yet, although we can manipulate it into a few known and pre-installed states (HID not being one of them, sorry). Bluetooth may be possible; we do have at least some access to the BT stack, although since it doesn't support HID natively either it would be quite a hack to get that working.
Are you disallowed WiFi for some reason, or do you just not have a WiFi network set up (and wow, are there really schools that still don't have WiFi in the dorms??)? A WiFi router is pretty cheap these days. Alternatively, it's possible to configure a PC's WiFi adapter to act like a WiFi access point, allowing the phoen to connect to it. I don't know for sure if Touchpad would work over that, but probably.
In theory, Touchpad should be possible over the Internet, though you'd need to open the firewall ports (whcih, depending on your school's network, might not be possible). Ot would lag, too.
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Touchpad over WiFi/internet already works. We do have WiFi in the dorms, but the routers are in the lounges (no signal in my room). The rooms have ethernet ports, which is what I use, however we aren't allowed to use a router/hotspot in our rooms because of throttling issues.
Making your PC use the built-in WiFi interface as an access point is probably your best bet. Obviously, lock the network down so it's not going to have other people connecting and getting you in trouble. Do a little searching and you should find the software that does this (there are a few different ones). It was actually supposed to be a Win7 feature, but at the end it shipped half-finished. A few other developers finished it up for Microsoft.
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Making your PC use the built-in WiFi interface as an access point is probably your best bet. Obviously, lock the network down so it's not going to have other people connecting and getting you in trouble. Do a little searching and you should find the software that does this (there are a few different ones). It was actually supposed to be a Win7 feature, but at the end it shipped half-finished. A few other developers finished it up for Microsoft.
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I tried doing this with my friend's laptop (I'll buy a dongle if this works), however my phone (SparkW) doesn't see the network, and when I type in the name manually it doesn't connect. The network was visible to another laptop though.
Did you make it appear as an access point ("Infrastructure" network), or merely cause the PC to create its own peer-to-peer ("ad-hoc") network? WP7 doesn't support that latter kind, but will happily connect to the former. Also, what software did you use? If it was anything that came with Windows, or with any Windows PC, it was almost certainly ad-hoc.
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Did you make it appear as an access point ("Infrastructure" network), or merely cause the PC to create its own peer-to-peer ("ad-hoc") network? WP7 doesn't support that latter kind, but will happily connect to the former. Also, what software did you use? If it was anything that came with Windows, or with any Windows PC, it was almost certainly ad-hoc.
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It was ad-hoc with the built in services. I'll try out connectify this weekend and post my results here.
New Nexus 5 (2 weeks old) and currently running Stock / Rooted. I have successfully connected my phone to my work VPN, and other VPN networks that I use but the issue is when tethering with USB (may be the same with wifi) my IP address is still my cell providers network. Everyone else at work has an app they use to tether with their blackberry and I had to be cool and switch to Android first with the Nexus.
Is it possible to route the VPN traffic on the phone through USB tethering to mac or pc?
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New Nexus 5 (2 weeks old) and currently running Stock / Rooted. I have successfully connected my phone to my work VPN, and other VPN networks that I use but the issue is when tethering with USB (may be the same with wifi) my IP address is still my cell providers network. Everyone else at work has an app they use to tether with their blackberry and I had to be cool and switch to Android first with the Nexus.
Is it possible to route the VPN traffic on the phone through USB tethering to mac or pc?
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Yes, run VPN client on your MAC/PC, it goes through the tether to use you phone as modem, VPN layered begins in the PC through the tether.
The only thing I've ever had to worry about is Android and windows has different encryption defaults, you might have to toggle options til it works.
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Yes, run VPN client on your MAC/PC, it goes through the tether to use you phone as modem, VPN layered begins in the PC through the tether.
The only thing I've ever had to worry about is Android and windows has different encryption defaults, you might have to toggle options til it works.
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Thanks. Yeah, I was hoping it was possible on the phone itself. Our PC's get reimaged everyday (stupidly strict with the work computers) and have to start fresh and input the settings again.. and again.. and again. It would have just been one less thing to worry about.
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Thanks. Yeah, I was hoping it was possible on the phone itself. Our PC's get reimaged everyday (stupidly strict with the work computers) and have to start fresh and input the settings again.. and again.. and again. It would have just been one less thing to worry about.
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What exactly are you trying to accomplish?
nigelhealy said:
Yes, run VPN client on your MAC/PC, it goes through the tether to use you phone as modem, VPN layered begins in the PC through the tether.
The only thing I've ever had to worry about is Android and windows has different encryption defaults, you might have to toggle options til it works.
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What exactly are you trying to accomplish?
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Connect to my work network over VPN through the phone (which works) & then tether that connection to my work pc (which has some crazy restrictions).
- I connected to my work VPN on my phone using the built in Android VPN.
- Everything on the phone acts like it is suppose to, I can get on the INTRAnet, browse network drives, etc...
- I can tether the phone through USB with no issue however none of the traffic is routed through the VPN connection.
I don't really care about any tethering limits with networks as we have unlimited (including tethering) with Verizon, AT&T and T-Mobile. I tried a couple of the tricks I am finding out but noting is letting me route my phones VPN traffic over the tether.
- Made sure changed the settings to IPv4/IPv6
- Tried out the tether hack by adding tether_dun_required 0 to the SQL
No luck so far I will keep hunting around this weekend. If nothing works I will just have to get the IT people to install some VPN app into the PC Image for me which will probably take a month or so.
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Connect to my work network over VPN through the phone (which works) & then tether that connection to my work pc (which has some crazy restrictions).
- I connected to my work VPN on my phone using the built in Android VPN.
- Everything on the phone acts like it is suppose to, I can get on the INTRAnet, browse network drives, etc...
- I can tether the phone through USB with no issue however none of the traffic is routed through the VPN connection.
I don't really care about any tethering limits with networks as we have unlimited (including tethering) with Verizon, AT&T and T-Mobile. I tried a couple of the tricks I am finding out but noting is letting me route my phones VPN traffic over the tether.
- Made sure changed the settings to IPv4/IPv6
- Tried out the tether hack by adding tether_dun_required 0 to the SQL
No luck so far I will keep hunting around this weekend. If nothing works I will just have to get the IT people to install some VPN app into the PC Image for me which will probably take a month or so.
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Idea 1:
Bootable USB stick running Ubuntu 14.04, you put all your setting to your heart's content into that image, you can then use the desktop device just as a big keyboard/mouse/screen and bypass any software restrictions and leave no footprint. Ubuntu does VPN.
Then its just the F key to press, F12 say on a Lenovo and anything you save is in the USB stick so any re-imaging is irrelevant as you never use that re-imaged at all.
Idea 2:
Remote desktop capability, your remote end runs Remote Desktop servers (e.g.Citriix) then from the local PC you connect to the gateway.
Idea 3:
Try different VPN software in Android. So sounds like the VPN on the Android device is layered only ontop for the Android apps not the whole device, so you need to put the VPN layer lower down. Try instead of Android's builtin VPN capability (Settings, ....VPN) try the VPNRoot app
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(I got plenty more... probably you'll like Idea 3 as its easiest for you)
nigelhealy said:
Idea 1:
Bootable USB stick running Ubuntu 14.04, you put all your setting to your heart's content into that image, you can then use the desktop device just as a big keyboard/mouse/screen and bypass any software restrictions and leave no footprint. Ubuntu does VPN.
Then its just the F key to press, F12 say on a Lenovo and anything you save is in the USB stick so any re-imaging is irrelevant as you never use that re-imaged at all.
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Thats exactly what I was thinking but I run into the issue of needing to use the proprietary work software on the PC. I might do this just for the hell of it anyway because its always fun but it will probably just add in another step not needed.
reflekt said:
Thats exactly what I was thinking but I run into the issue of needing to use the proprietary work software on the PC. I might do this just for the hell of it anyway because its always fun but it will probably just add in another step not needed.
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Hit refresh I was mid-edit oops send, put in more ideas..... you reminded me of a related problem with PPP Widget and USB 4G dongle which is an Android issue with VPN I got a workaround.
USB bootable sticks are cool, they cost nothing really an old 2GB stick, and lets you turn any borrowed x86 device into what YOU want. Handy for if laptops have a bad boot drive or bad OS issue. Lifesafer, part of your kit. I mentioned 14.04 as it has out-the-box MMTP and knows Nexus without tweaks and it Bluetooth tethers well to Android. I'm running it
nigelhealy said:
Idea 1:
Bootable USB stick running Ubuntu 14.04, you put all your setting to your heart's content into that image, you can then use the desktop device just as a big keyboard/mouse/screen and bypass any software restrictions and leave no footprint. Ubuntu does VPN.
Then its just the F key to press, F12 say on a Lenovo and anything you save is in the USB stick so any re-imaging is irrelevant as you never use that re-imaged at all.
Idea 2:
Remote desktop capability, your remote end runs Remote Desktop servers (e.g.Citriix) then from the local PC you connect to the gateway.
Idea 3:
Try different VPN software in Android. So sounds like the VPN on the Android device is layered only ontop for the Android apps not the whole device, so you need to put the VPN layer lower down. Try instead of Android's builtin VPN capability (Settings, ....VPN) try the VPNRoot app
Idea 4:
(I got plenty more... probably you'll like Idea 3 as its easiest for you)
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Ugh yeah, I should have tried a different VPN app as that might fix my issue. I will give VPNRoot a shot later tonight. Not that it matters for what I need done but the "hacks" I used actually shows all data I used was coming from the phone, nice to know if I ever have to pay for my own service again.
Hi my name is jacob and I am a new on XDA and i have started a new thread because I have been all over the internet looking for a solution to this problem and none of them work. After i waved through all of the b******* i decided to come and see if any of you veterans can solve my problem.
i have been messing around with root and custom roms here recently maybe for a month and so far its great breathed new life into my old phone. Although I am having trouble with hacking my mobile phones hot spot (phone specifications and model listed below) i have tried everything wifi tether by TreVe, (hope I'm typing that right) changing tethering.dun in global settings database, (worked great until T-mobile eventually found me out) and everything else related to that. I am looking for a hack into my hot spot where T-mobile wont know s*** and it will work indefinitely. Reason why is I need internet for school and work purposes at home but, I live with my father and hes is on parole and can not have internet service at his home. I am a beginner but do have a little bit of sense in what I am doing if someone would kindly walk me through steps on how to completely unlock and hide my hot spot usage from T-mobile it would be greatly appreciated.
Also new thread for hacking native hot spot methods on any rooted android device.
My phone
Samsung Galaxy S2
carrier: T-mobile
model: SGH-T989 Hercules
no custom kernel (I understand I need some kind of net filter but can not find that online)
custom rom version: carbon 4.4.2 nightly
Thanks XDA community :good:
It won't be wireless, but PdaNet+ and USB tethering works just fine with a computer as long as you select the "hide tether usage" option. The program on the computer side also has a feature that turns your computer's wi-fi into a wi-fi router, which'll allow you to connect other devices.
Planterz said:
It won't be wireless, but PdaNet+ and USB tethering works just fine with a computer as long as you select the "hide tether usage" option. The program on the computer side also has a feature that turns your computer's wi-fi into a wi-fi router, which'll allow you to connect other devices.
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yes i have tried PDAnet and that does not work for my needs as i also play the occasional online game with my PS4 I forgot to mention that sorry. I have tried to send out a wifi signal from my computer through CMD on my computer and none of my devices pick it up even though CMD says the signal is going out also done this with ADhoc networks with a LAN cable but did not work either. Thanks for the suggestion :good: I probably should have went into more detail with my post but I did not want to make it to terribly long sorry.
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It won't be wireless, but PdaNet+ and USB tethering works just fine with a computer as long as you select the "hide tether usage" option. The program on the computer side also has a feature that turns your computer's wi-fi into a wi-fi router, which'll allow you to connect other devices.
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May it possibly hide my online gaming if I figure out a way to get reverse WiFi on my computer working will it still hide that or will it be detectable. I see my self as a somewhat computer buff but I put myself to shame when i cant get a reverse WiFi connection going from my computer. seems like a lot of trouble to go to for internet i wish there was a way to unlock native tethering and not jump through hoops. It would seem that it would be a simple fix and should also be free anyway since it is dealt with the phone's hardware not through the carrier american cell network providers are greedy that is like getting xfinity internet but before you can send internet to your devices you have to pay thirty dollars extra.
When you USB tether your phone to your computer with PdaNet+, all you have to do is select the "WiFi Share" option and set it up like any other hotspot (network name, password, etc). Couldn't be easier. I don't know how well this'll work for playing PS4 (or whatever) games, but I can use this setup to watch Netflix or youtube on my well enough.
There are ways to use the native hotspot on an Android phone, but all the "hacks" are done on the computer side. VPNs, browser masking, etc.
Planterz said:
When you USB tether your phone to your computer with PdaNet+, all you have to do is select the "WiFi Share" option and set it up like any other hotspot (network name, password, etc). Couldn't be easier. I don't know how well this'll work for playing PS4 (or whatever) games, but I can use this setup to watch Netflix or youtube on my well enough.
There are ways to use the native hotspot on an Android phone, but all the "hacks" are done on the computer side. VPNs, browser masking, etc.
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i will try this method browser masking right now unfortunately don't have the money to buy a VPN maybe one of the ad supported free versions will suffice will report back tomorrow.
jacobis16 said:
i will try this method browser masking right now unfortunately don't have the money to buy a VPN maybe one of the ad supported free versions will suffice will report back tomorrow.
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Method not working i still get the T-mobile up sell page through VPN's of all kind it masks the internet going through the computer but not the phone where the service originates. They still detect everything I am doing. I understand T-mobile has bots going through their lines that detects devices that are not mobile devices and shuts them down. If maybe there is a way to block T-mo completely from a mobile device and just sounds ridiculous but I know someone out there can find a way I have heard of peoples mobile data usage and their mobile hot spot gauge has not moved only mobile data was detected. I am not sure if this was false statements and was made up.
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Hi Jacob, I got my Note 3's native personal wifi hotspot connected to my ps4 with around 18Mbps Download and 6Mbps Upload, I adjusted the APN settings on my phone and managed to get around the data restriction.
I can post the exact settings I changed if you think it might work for you?
Hello everyone. I don't know if anyone is having this kind of issue, but I tried to Google for the answer and it hasn't led me anywhere near an answer. What's happening is this: I'm trying to connect my car's wifi to my phone hotspot for allow the car to go online for maps and stuff. When I connect my car to the phone it works. After just disabling the hotspot and enabling back again the car won't connect automatically to it and I need to put the password back in. With another phone i have this behaviour is not present. Also my other phone connects just fine to the Pixel 6a every time, no issues there. And my car connects to another phone's hotspot just fine reliably every time. I tried looking for MAC randomization, but that option is already disabled by default. Looking into the Android 13 settings for the hotspot I can't find any meaningful setting.
I hope anyone can at least point me into the right direction, thanks!
MeltingSnowman said:
(...) After just disabling the hotspot and enabling back again the car won't connect automatically to it and I need to put the password back in. With another phone i have this behaviour is not present. (...)
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Do these another phones also have android 13?
ze7zez said:
Do these another phones also have android 13?
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No. One it's a Motorola Edge Plus 2022 (Android 12) and the other one is a Huawei P20 Lite (Android 9). Those do not have issues, both connecting to the Pixel hotspot and serving the car with their own hotspots.
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No. (...)
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So we have a potential culprit: Android 13.
A case for further investigation.
ze7zez said:
So we have a potential culprit: Android 13.
A case for further investigation.
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I found that there are less hotspot settings in Android 13 compared to Android 12.
Also both my Pixel 6a and the Motorola Edge Plus 2022 have wifi 6 radios and don't have any skins on top of Android that might make work or not work my car.
I was wondering if there's a MAC randomization that can't be disabled on Android 13 when creating an hotspot. That's the only thing I can think might be an issue.
MeltingSnowman said:
(...) I was wondering if there's a MAC randomization that can't be disabled on Android 13 when creating an hotspot. That's the only thing I can think might be an issue.
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You can easily check this when connected from another phone in its connection settings.
MAC randomization is not relevant when it is not supervised in any way. And it isn't, so the connection should happen. The problem may be at the packet transmission layer. There are different solutions, and perhaps the auto does not cope with new solutions. Do you have the ability to check the firmware date with the auto?
ze7zez said:
You can easily check this when connected from another phone in its connection settings.
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You're right. Will do.
ze7zez said:
MAC randomization is not relevant when it is not supervised in any way. And it isn't, so the connection should happen. The problem may be at the packet transmission layer. There are different solutions, and perhaps the auto does not cope with new solutions. Do you have the ability to check the firmware date with the auto?
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I sure can, but I don't know how fit that into the whole issue. IIRC I updated it not too long ago.
ze7zez said:
You can easily check this when connected from another phone in its connection settings.
MAC randomization is not relevant when it is not supervised in any way. And it isn't, so the connection should happen. The problem may be at the packet transmission layer. There are different solutions, and perhaps the auto does not cope with new solutions. Do you have the ability to check the firmware date with the auto?
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Can't find the firmware version of my car, if that could've made a difference.
Doesn't appear to be any MAC randomization while using the hotspot.
I am getting the same problem whenever i try to connect this to my car.
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I was wondering if there's a MAC randomization that can't be disabled on Android 13 when creating an hotspot. That's the only thing I can think might be an issue.
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That shouldn't make a difference, the car should be looking for an SSID, not a BSSID.
In Hotspot settings, have you enabled "Extend compatibility?"
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That shouldn't make a difference, the car should be looking for an SSID, not a BSSID.
In Hotspot settings, have you enabled "Extend compatibility?"
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I did, but it didn't change anything. With the option disabled on a Motorola Edge Plus 2022 the car connected anyway and, upon restarting both the car and the hotspot on that phone it picked it up immediately. Which leads me to belive that it's equipped with a 5Ghz wifi. It's a 2021 Toyota Corolla.
I know it shoudn't make a difference, but I can't figure out for the life of me why it refuses to work with my phone. I can't deal with inputting my wifi password each time I hop in the car!
I don't see in the video that any password is needed.
Can you provide a link to the video that explains how to pair with the password?
ze7zez said:
I don't see in the video that any password is needed.
Can you provide a link to the video that explains how to pair with the password?
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That's bluetooth pairing. That, at least, works fine. What I'm talking about is wifi connection between the car and the smartphone. The smartphone sets up an hotspot and the car connects to it in order to acess the internet for maps data and apps.
This is the video that shows how to connect to wifi:
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What does "Detailed Settings" look like?
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What does "Detailed Settings" look like?
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Nothing of value for us unfortunately. Forgot to take a picture but I remember that it shows the MAC address of the car, the wireless networks known and something about automatic connection to networks and network notifications.
MeltingSnowman said:
(...) something about automatic connection to networks (...)
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This is interesting.
ze7zez said:
This is interesting.
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It's just a toggle to auto connect to known networks or not. Nothing more.