i have a flip3 on tesco mobile in the uk. is there a way to unlock call recording?
thanks
I'm using the ACR Call Recorder app from the Galaxy Store - Call Recorder - ACR - which seems to work OK in the UK.
thanks for the reply, ive tried that one and 2 others but ive found that sometimes they record clearly and others its inaudible regardless of the live call quality. sometimes i can only hear my voice too. on my previous phone which was a xiaomi that i bought from china the recording was natively enabled and it was flawless (very handy for my job as i cant always write down info while im working, also as customers like to alter what was said in their minds after they've had a quote )
i was hoping to enable the built in recording which is disabled in the uk
sidz70 said:
i have a flip3 on tesco mobile in the uk. is there a way to unlock call recording?
thanks
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Unfortunately due to the Laws in the EU and UK. That feature is disabled on all Samsung EU and UK devices.
iceepyon said:
Unfortunately due to the Laws in the EU and UK. That feature is disabled on all Samsung EU and UK devices.
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But there are no laws in the UK which prevent me from recording calls for personal use, and there is no requirement to inform (or receive consent from) the other party.
When I had a OnePlus 8 Pro, the built-in dialler allowed me to record all calls, so I can't understand why Samsung disable this feature.
CSC needs to be changed for native call recording to work.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/enabling-native-call-recorder-through-csc.3962224/
Philip said:
But there are no laws in the UK which prevent me from recording calls for personal use, and there is no requirement to inform (or receive consent from) the other party.
When I had a OnePlus 8 Pro, the built-in dialler allowed me to record all calls, so I can't understand why Samsung disable this feature.
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Unfortunately this is a grey area in the law in the UK. As for all legal purposes in the UK both parties need to agree to have their conversation recorded otherwise if it was to be used in a legal action. The judge would disregard the call recording as both parties record in the conversation did not provide their consent to have their call recorded.
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Unfortunately this is a grey area in the law in the UK. As for all legal purposes in the UK both parties need to agree to have their conversation recorded otherwise if it was to be used in a legal action. The judge would disregard the call recording as both parties record in the conversation did not provide their consent to have their call recorded.
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Not grey at all in the UK, and there is no requirement for the other party to the conversation to consent to (or even to be informed of) the recording, especially when performed by an individual. The only constraints are what is done with the recording - if the recording was made public, then the recorded party might have recourse to a civil (but probably not criminal) prosecution, but would have to prove that they had suffered damages.
As one of the exemptions from GDPR are activities carried out to prevent or detect a crime, I can't think of any circumstances when a telephone conversation recording would not be allowed in evidence.
The rules for businesses are slightly different - there are some industries (e.g. those regulated by the FSA) where there is a regulatory requirement to record all calls.
Of course, the law is different in other jurisdictions.
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I need to record phone calls. My boss screams at me like a demon monster, and I'd like to preserve this fresh Hell for posterity... maybe make it my ringtone. (Yes, I have a right to in my state, as I am a party to the call)
Searching on AppBrain for 'phone call recorder' gives 13,997 results.
Ideally I'd like it to automatically start when I get a call from a certain number, and otherwise have a push-button start/stop while calls are in progress, and any other time.
Can anyone advise?
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I need to record phone calls. My boss screams at me like a demon monster, and I'd like to preserve this fresh Hell for posterity... maybe make it my ringtone. (Yes, I have a right to in my state, as I am a party to the call)
Searching on AppBrain for 'phone call recorder' gives 13,997 results.
Ideally I'd like it to automatically start when I get a call from a certain number, and otherwise have a push-button start/stop while calls are in progress, and any other time.
Can anyone advise?
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I think Google Voice has this feature, but it lets the other party know via an in-call announcement.
esone1ll said:
I think Google Voice has this feature, but it lets the other party know via an in-call announcement.
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Thanks, but no Google apps please. Don't trust them. Open-source is best.
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Thanks, but no Google apps please. Don't trust them. Open-source is best.
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Interesting choice of phone platforms given that you don't trust Google.
By the way, much of Google's software is open source with that source code freely available, including Android.
Though I've only looked for this in Nexus One forums, it seems that no one can figure out how to get an application (at least not involving GV) to capture audio on both sides of the conversation, unless it's on speaker or maybe a headset. Might vary by device though if it's a hardware thing.
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Interesting choice of phone platforms given that you don't trust Google.
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Long story. Sure you want to know?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=730544
Yes N1 is the phone of concern. Odd that it's difficult to capture both sides. Shouldn't be difficult to emulate GV by looking at the source.
I was going to suggest Google Voice also. When you hit the number 2 or 4 (can't remember which), it will notify you and the other caller that the session is being recorded (which might shut your boss up for good!). You can even download the conversation into an mp3 format. It records both sides of the conversation, not just yours or his.
Now, why would Google give a crap what your boss is yelling about? My point exactly ... this isn't Big Brother ... yet.
Read that other thread to find out, if you're actually curious.
I notice that comments in many of the call recording apps say 'doesn't work', with one phone or another, usually newer phones. And I am gathering that G**gle Voice is closed-source, as are apparently many of their other apps, so reading source for tips on how to get both sides is not an option.
I wouldn't use G**gle apps in any case, but to notify my boss I am recording would probably get me fired today. I'm just wanting to collect his fiery, abusive calls just in case...
Apparently most apps are unable to record the other party's side of the conversation.
Does anyone know why this would be? What would it take to record both sides. I'm sure there are hooks in Android to get this.
All right, after considerable research it seems I am the best-informed around here.
It is now clear that there is no way a third-party app can record the orther end of the conversation, except in speakerphone mode. (MIC ONLY). Only Google Voice can do this, and it insists on using 'The Cloud' so they have control over all your conversations.
There is confusion over whether this is an API problem, or a driver problem, but if it's a driver problem both HTC and Motorola suffer from it.
So, this is a deal-breaker. No Android phone for me. I'm lucky I'm not already stuck with one.
Winduhs Mobile phones can record with third-party apps, as can the Symbian-based Nokia N8 when it comes out next month. So that's where I'm going.
Good bye Android
Hate to tell you this but you are butting you head up against a long time limitation of the "Smartphone" platform. It isn't limited to Android devices either. WinMo has the same limitations and it has to do with the OS not having access to the incoming audio stream.
Not true. Google Voice can do it, built-in, but I'm not sending all recordings to them, no sir.
This proves that the mechanisms are in place but that either the API is rigged, the drivers are, or documentation is lying. Everything records as documented in the emulated SDK, but not on the phone itself.
Phones that actually can record both sides are Nokia S60 & Maemo phones, including N900 & N8 (Recaller, Voxtrack Personal- beepless), Rseven on Symbian & WM, Mvoice & CallRec on Palm, Vito-Audionotes on HTC TouchPro2, Sony Ericsson c905 has the record option.
Right now I'm looking for a Linux port to any of the newer smartphones, as Linux can record and has nav apps, my two vital functions.
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Not true. Google Voice can do it, built-in, but I'm not sending all recordings to them, no sir.
This proves that the mechanisms are in place but that either the API is rigged, the drivers are, or documentation is lying. Everything records as documented in the emulated SDK, but not on the phone itself.
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That doesn't prove anything. Google Voice calls go through their servers. I can record calls between two landlines, if the call is made through GVoice. Does this mean that my 1970s-era, rotary-dial phone has the SDK to record calls?
It proves that I can't use Android.
I am not going to bicker with you.
This thread is comedy gold. There are several reasons why access the audio stream is restricted. Phones from many platforms cannot record both sides of the conversation, and I am surprised to hear that 3rd party apps can do this on WinMo. I would hazzard a guess that this requires more than just a regular run of the mill type install.
You seem to hate Android, and Google in particular. I have read your posts. I thank you for your lack of contribution to the forum. A good chuckle doesn't really count.
Your fear mongering and paranoia regarding big business and biased news is typical of someone living behind a computer for 52 years. Oh yes, that's you too. If you wish to spread your opinion, I would suggest you start a blog, rather than fill a forum with posts like these.
Take care.
Voice recorder app on win mobile
Until about 10 days ago when I bought my first android phone, a samsung vibrant which i am loving it, I was a windows mobile user for many years and it's true that there is an free app called PMrecoder, that records phone conversation (both sides) and saves it in a folder on the SD card. I still have the app on my Tmobile wing. This app works great and records all coversations automatically. I wish there was an app like that for android also. I am sure someone will come up with a similar app for android soon.
You have nothing but insults "SpeeDemon". {snicker}
Means nothing.
But thanks mayart, for another app that works.
total recall (paid app, about 10 dollards) tryes to do the job.
I've buy it, but...nobody never calls me.
Seriously: i come from an excellent nokia E65. It knew how to record some in's and out's very efficiently.
Doesn't work on Nexus One...
You should send a mail to the developers (company).
I think they want now to be efficient on Android phones, as they are for ages
on symbian (Nokia) ones.
Ah, never mind, I've found an app that does it.
However because of the abuse I was given in this thread I am not sharing it with this forum.
Have a nice day.
UPDATE: If your kernel has been patched to support call recording then use this app: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.skvalex.callrecorder
(There are many other apps that say they work but in my personal experiance they either don't or require the call to be on speakerphone.)
I know that Tiamat and Toastcfh's stock CM7 kernel both have this enabled. I'm unaware of others.
*OR: Use MIUI (Thanks Rooster85)
Original Question:
Has anyone had any luck recording calls on their Shifts? I know that I can record incoming with Voice but I'd like to record outgoing too. I've read that it's a feature that has to be enabled on the kernel level and I've seen that both the stock CM7 kernel and Tiamat have been updated to allow call recording but still I've tried a half dozen different apps and they say they've recorded the call but I get no audio at all.
Can anyone help? (Please, no discussions on the legality of recording calls) Thanks in advance.
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I don't know but I've noticed that I get a message of "This call is now being recorded" when I'm on a call for a while.. wtf?
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I don't know but I've noticed that I get a message of "This call is now being recorded" when I'm on a call for a while.. wtf?
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If you're using Voice you can record inbound calls (not outbound) by pressing 4 during the call. Is it a vocal announcement? If so then that's Voice.
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Recording phone calls is illegal I'm most areas. Each party has to be notified if the call is be recorded that is why you hear a message stated this call is being recorded. Only law enforcement can record calls and only then with a proper warrent. Ps and I know the op says no disscussing the legality but I figure it atleasts needs to be pointed out
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Recording phone calls is illegal I'm most areas. Each party has to be notified if the call is be recorded that is why you hear a message stated this call is being recorded. Only law enforcement can record calls and only then with a proper warrent. Ps and I know the op says no disscussing the legality but I figure it atleasts needs to be pointed out
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Actually the federal laws only call for one party consent. That means as long as I know the call is being recorded it's legal. There are only 11 states that require all party consent:
California
Connecticut
Florida
Illinois
Maryland
Massachusetts
Montana
Nevada
New Hampshire
Pennsylvania
Washington
Law enforcement doesn't need **** to wiretap you. The idea that they need warrants is an antiquated ideal that doesn't address the reality of our post 9/11 world.
I really don't know why people get so freaked out about recording calls. Every other form of communication except in person speech is recorded. Texts, emails, tweets, Facebook, even written letters are all recorded forms of communication.
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Actually the federal laws only call for one party consent. That means as long as I know the call is being recorded it's legal. There are only 11 states that require all party consent:
California
Connecticut
Florida
Illinois
Maryland
Massachusetts
Montana
Nevada
New Hampshire
Pennsylvania
Washington
Law enforcement doesn't need **** to wiretap you. The idea that they need warrants is an antiquated ideal that doesn't address the reality of our post 9/11 world.
I really don't know why people get so freaked out about recording calls. Every other form of communication except in person speech is recorded. Texts, emails, tweets, Facebook, even written letters are all recorded forms of communication.
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Its actually 12 states that require, under most circumstances, the consent of all parties to a conversation: California, Connecticut, Florida, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania and Washington.
Federal Law:
The federal Omnibus Crime Control and Safe Streets Act of 1968, 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2510 et seq., prohibits the willful interception of telephone communication by means of any electronic, mechanical, or other device without an applicable exemption. There are two principal exceptions:
Federal Exceptions
Consent: In the absence of more restrictive state law, it is permissible to intercept and record a telephone conversation if one or both of the parties to the call consents. Consent means authorization by only one participant in the call; single-party consent is provided for by specific statutory exemption under federal law. 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2511(2)(d).
"Business telephone" exception
The "business telephone" exception, which generally allows monitoring of calls and taping over an extension phone which is both provided to a subscriber in the ordinary course of a telephone company's business and is being used by that subscriber in the ordinary course of its business. This provision generally permits businesses to monitor the conversations of their employees, including personal conversations.
Penalties: The federal statutes provide criminal penalties for unlawful interception of telephone conversations, including up to five years' imprisonment or a maximum of $10,000 in fines. They also allow for civil remedies, by which private parties are entitled to recover actual and punitive damages, together with fees and costs.
Just my 2 cents, sorry for taking your thread to where you didn't want it to go, but just pointing out some info that some might need to know.
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Its actually 12 states that require, under most circumstances, the consent of all parties to a conversation: California, Connecticut, Florida, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania and Washington.
Federal Law:
The federal Omnibus Crime Control and Safe Streets Act of 1968, 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2510 et seq., prohibits the willful interception of telephone communication by means of any electronic, mechanical, or other device without an applicable exemption. There are two principal exceptions:
Federal Exceptions
Consent: In the absence of more restrictive state law, it is permissible to intercept and record a telephone conversation if one or both of the parties to the call consents. Consent means authorization by only one participant in the call; single-party consent is provided for by specific statutory exemption under federal law. 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2511(2)(d).
"Business telephone" exception
The "business telephone" exception, which generally allows monitoring of calls and taping over an extension phone which is both provided to a subscriber in the ordinary course of a telephone company's business and is being used by that subscriber in the ordinary course of its business. This provision generally permits businesses to monitor the conversations of their employees, including personal conversations.
Penalties: The federal statutes provide criminal penalties for unlawful interception of telephone conversations, including up to five years' imprisonment or a maximum of $10,000 in fines. They also allow for civil remedies, by which private parties are entitled to recover actual and punitive damages, together with fees and costs.
Just my 2 cents, sorry for taking your thread to where you didn't want it to go, but just pointing out some info that some might need to know.
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Oh, my bad I was off by one state Otherwise you haven't added any new information than what I already posted. You just translated my English version into Legalise. Seriously though, all of this is just useless annoyance and debate since I STILL CAN'T RECORD MY CALLS!!! Anyone got any useful information?
Sorry to be a douch but this is exactly why I asked NOT to have this discussion. I've seen it repeated a million times. Besides, everyone that resides in any of those 12 states is a jerk and don't want to talk to them on the phone anyways =)
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You can try THIS , or maybe THIS. Plus when you click on the links there's a few more listed on the left. Haven't tried any of these, but hope it helps.
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You can try THIS , or maybe THIS. Plus when you click on the links there's a few more listed on the left. Haven't tried any of these, but hope it helps.
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Thank you. I know I've tried those 2 at least once but I should go back and try them again. When I get a chance I'm gonna just go through every app step by step and document my results and make sure that I've tried every possibility. Hopefully we can change this [Q] to an [A]
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I was in a call the other day and I hit 4 by mistake and got the message "your call is now being recorded" and was like wth. So I hung up and called that person back haha, then I realized that you could do that with google voice after looking in the FAQ.
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If you're using Voice you can record inbound calls (not outbound) by pressing 4 during the call. Is it a vocal announcement? If so then that's Voice.
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I don't remember dialing 4 and it's really annoying. Yes, it's vocal.
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I don't remember dialing 4 and it's really annoying. Yes, it's vocal.
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Mine kicks on by itself randomly, fortunately hasn't happened during any important calls. It is a known bug that google hasn't ironed out yet.
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Alright!!! I finally found an app that works!!! It doesn't list the Shift as supported but it's working perfectly for me on CM7 #199 with Tiamat 1.1.3. Sound quality is awesome. It's true call recording, not some bs speakerphone solution
ALL HAIL OTAKING71, THE RAPER OF HBOOT!!!
EDIT: ...must've been a little excited, forgot the link - https://market.android.com/details?id=com.skvalex.callrecorder
Flash Miui and it has a record call function
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is there any sense froyo kernels optimized for call recording, that u guys know about? I tried the app mention above with x99 kernel and didn't work.
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Note that recording calls without consent of your conversational partner is illegal in many countries.
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Note that recording calls without consent of your conversational partner is illegal in many countries.
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Entrapment lol
I'd like to open a useful thread to know a well-working Call Recorder with the most recent OS matched to the respective phones because it looks like it is a very hard issue.
A 'well-working' Call recorder I mean that:
- can record both ends of conversation with no warning vocal message;
- can also record through bluetooth earpieces the other end of call;
- can access the contact's names and then you can have shown on your recording list the called contact name.
- no root needed.
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I'd like to open a useful thread to know a well-working Call Recorder with the most recent OS matched to the respective phones because it looks like it is a very hard issue.
A 'well-working' Call recorder I mean that:
- can record both ends of conversation with no warning vocal message;
- can also record through bluetooth earpieces the other end of call;
- can access the contact's names and then you can have shown on your recording list the called contact name.
- no root needed.
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Keep in mind that what you want is not legal in all areas. Check the laws for your specific country and locality. Consent from all parties is sometimes required; at the very least, the most frequent requirement is that all parties to the conversation have to be aware that they're being recorded.
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Keep in mind that what you want is not legal in all areas. Check the laws for your specific country and locality. Consent from all parties is sometimes required; at the very least, the most frequent requirement is that all parties to the conversation have to be aware that they're being recorded.
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Hi Volatyle, many thanks for your reply! I wouldn't open a polemic about this, but my unique purpose is to get automated data in my phone (i.e. when I'm driving the car and I'm with my bluetooth earpieces, etc.) when I listen to the people giving me details about my errands, etc. and I can hear them afterwards.
I find very stupid this restriction because - if we like - we can record the calls anyway... I think that the responsibilities against the law is a different matter and the lawbreaker has to pay for the privacy violation then.
Furthermore, currently, it is allowed with many phones to record the calls through either the phone's earpiece or speakerphone by an app installed into the same phone! Thus, my thread - I think - has the reason to be open because I'm looking for a feature that is already present in the phones, but I'd like to optimise a working call recorder only with an simple bt device connected or contact names regularly shown (another very stupid restriction - I believe) .
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Hi Volatyle, many thanks for your reply! I wouldn't open a polemic about this, but my unique purpose is to get automated data in my phone (i.e. when I'm driving the car and I'm with my bluetooth earpieces, etc.) when I listen to the people giving me details about my errands, etc. and I can hear them afterwards.
I find very stupid this restriction because - if we like - we can record the calls anyway... I think that the responsibilities against the law is a different matter and the lawbreaker has to pay for the privacy violation then.
Furthermore, currently, it is allowed with many phones to record the calls through either the phone's earpiece or speakerphone by an app installed into the same phone! Thus, my thread - I think - has the reason to be open because I'm looking for a feature that is already present in the phones, but I'd like to optimise a working call recorder only with an simple bt device connected or contact names regurarly shown (another very stupid restriction - I believe) .
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I didn't say I was going to close your thread, I'm just making sure you're aware of the legality of it. Whether or not a phone has a recording app or recording functions enabled does not mean it is legal, and it is your responsibility to be aware of the laws in your area.