Root Help!!!!!! - General Questions and Answers

I have a Samsung A12 and I can't root it in fact I can't get anything to work I have never rooted a phone before can someone plz help my oem is not showing up either.

welcome to xda. in order for your phone to be unlocked, you have to unlock your bootloader.
has that been done yet? if not, do you know what that is?

pojr said:
welcome to xda. in order for your phone to be unlocked, you have to unlock your bootloader.
has that been done yet? if not, do you know what that is?
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No I've heard of it but I'm not sure sorry

To root a device's Android it's NOT required that device's bootloader gets unlocked.

jwoegerbauer said:
To root a device's Android it's NOT required that device's bootloader gets unlocked.
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is that so? i always needed to unlock my bootloader in order to flash roms and magisk. but i know a lot has changed recently. maybe there's some exploit that allows you to root without needing to flash anything. hopefully you're not talking those suspicious apps like kingroot or whatever.

Take note that Android OS is rooted when SU binary is present within it. Android OS has NOTHING to do with device's bootloader ( what is comparable to BIOS of a Windows PC ).

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Straight talk s7 follow under?

hello i got a s7 from straight talk . and it model is SM-G930VL
what does that follow under .. i was thinking verizon but verizon doesnt have the L in it . Also would i be able to root using that method that in the forum . also Which roms would i be able to use when i root it?
thank you
Adaken13 said:
hello i got a s7 from straight talk . and it model is SM-G930VL
what does that follow under .. i was thinking verizon but verizon doesnt have the L in it . Also would i be able to root using that method that in the forum . also Which roms would i be able to use when i root it?
thank you
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It should be under the Verizon model. Usually tracfone does not lock the bootloaders on their variant. On another thread a guy flashed the verizon firmware to this model with no bricks and issue. but doing that WILL lock the bootloader. I hope he responds to my post. want to know to what extent it was flashed and if knox got tripped.
aromerblz said:
It should be under the Verizon model. Usually tracfone does not lock the bootloaders on their variant. On another thread a guy flashed the verizon firmware to this model with no bricks and issue. but doing that WILL lock the bootloader. I hope he responds to my post. want to know to what extent it was flashed and if knox got tripped.
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would you be able to show me the right direction to where he got the method to root his.? also if you learn anything else from him . can you let me know. so this mean I have an unlock bootloader? doesn't that mean I can root easier?
Adaken13 said:
would you be able to show me the right direction to where he got the method to root his.? also if you learn anything else from him . can you let me know. so this mean I have an unlock bootloader? doesn't that mean I can root easier?
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I should be able to get one of these mids august hopefully and will use it as a test device to see what bricks it and what hack can be done. In the past tracfone has release the SM-S975L(Tracfone Unlocked bootloader) which equals to an SGH-I337 (AT&T Locked bootloader), they released the S5 & S6 which equal to the SM-G900V and SM-G920V, both have Unlocked bootloaders. So i dnt think the S7 is any different and equals to the SM-G930V. Any root method that works for the SM-G930V should work on the SM-G930VL. But again this is just my say based on past experiences, i wont know until i get the phone and try all this. For what I know so far he was able to flash the complete verizon firmware which i think will flash a locked bootloader and no going back after it.
Yes will share my experiences.
Adaken13 said:
would you be able to show me the right direction to where he got the method to root his.? also if you learn anything else from him . can you let me know. so this mean I have an unlock bootloader? doesn't that mean I can root easier?
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So i was able to flash the full latest verizon firmware and fully ended up converting the phone to an SM-G930V. SO provided that you flash the firmware on which root was achieved for the SM-G930V, then there is really no stopping you from rooting this phone. As expected due to flashing the verizon firmware the phone has a locked bootloader now but root was achieved regardless.
Proceed at your own risk.
I have the Sm-g930vl (tracfone) and would like to confirm the bootloader is unlocked. I can boot into both recovery and download mode but cannot connect with fastboot to get device info. Is there another way to check?
KericF said:
I have the Sm-g930vl (tracfone) and would like to confirm the bootloader is unlocked. I can boot into both recovery and download mode but cannot connect with fastboot to get device info. Is there another way to check?
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Bootloader is locked and cannot be unlocked. Samsung devices do no use fastboot.
edit build.prop
aromerblz said:
Bootloader is locked and cannot be unlocked. Samsung devices do no use fastboot.
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Thanks for the info. Do you know if I can edit the build.prop with adb without rooting? I've never messed with Samsung. Seems a different beast.
KericF said:
Thanks for the info. Do you know if I can edit the build.prop with adb without rooting? I've never messed with Samsung. Seems a different beast.
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No way you can modify build.prop without root. What are you trying to accomplish?
aromerblz said:
No way you can modify build.prop without root. What are you trying to accomplish?
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I was hoping to enable hotspot. I've read where people have flashed the 930u firmware and can enable it but I'm already on Nougat even on tracfone firmware.
KericF said:
I was hoping to enable hotspot. I've read where people have flashed the 930u firmware and can enable it but I'm already on Nougat even on tracfone firmware.
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I see, the only way I see this working for you is by third apps or flash a firmware that supports it.

Rooting (only) Honor View 10

Looking for some advice........I've just bought an Honor View 10 and I want to root it (just to use Apps that require root access), i.e. I don't need to flash any images etc as I'm not installing a new ROM
Is this possible straight out of the box? i.e Phone still has a locked Bootloader
If so, is there a guide somewhere on how to do this? ......Cheers!
You should really do some research before asking. Your answers are out there, just look for them.
riverbird69 said:
Looking for some advice........I've just bought an Honor View 10 and I want to root it (just to use Apps that require root access), i.e. I don't need to flash any images etc as I'm not installing a new ROM
Is this possible straight out of the box? i.e Phone still has a locked Bootloader
If so, is there a guide somewhere on how to do this? ......Cheers!
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You REALLY shouldn't have bought any Huawei/Honor device since they no longer give out bootloader unlock codes.
The only way to unlock now is through paid services, so if you still can I suggest you return it and get a phone from another manufaturer like OnePlus or Xiaomi
I know other phones are easier to root since Honor/Huawei aren't giving out Bootloader codes anymore, but that didn't really answer my question though......Is it possible to just root the phone without a Bootloader Code (just root, no flashing)..
riverbird69 said:
I know other phones are easier to root since Honor/Huawei aren't giving out Bootloader codes anymore, but that didn't really answer my question though......Is it possible to just root the phone without a Bootloader Code (just root, no flashing)..
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No it is not possible. The bootloader code is needed to root/flash. You can like the previous person, spend some cash to get the bootloader code. Hope that helps?
Thanks for the reply, was hoping for a different answer though! Cheers...
riverbird69 said:
Thanks for the reply, was hoping for a different answer though! Cheers...
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No worries, wish the answer was different. Still without root this phone is amazing

Mandatory unlocked bootloader for rooting?

Hi everyone.
I'm thinking in buying a phone from CAT (CAT S42) and I'm not sure if I can unlock its bootloader. But I've seen on another forum that the CAT S31 has root available for it through Magisk, and I didn't see anyone mentioning having unlocked the bootloader. S42 has a MediaTek chipset and S31 has a Qualcomm chipset, if that helps.
So my question is: is unlocking bootloader MANDATORY to root a device? Can I just run a custom recovery, root the phone with that, and then the recovery gets overwritten on system boot? Or can I root through USB debugging without even needing custom recovery?
The CAT S31 I mentioned was rooted with Magisk, and as I said, I didn't see anyone talking about unlocked bootloader. But I also read Magisk changes the boot partition and the bootloader checks if it was modified. So I'm a bit confused with this too. It's also written that MiracleBox was used and I'm not sure that's the reason that I'm getting confused or not (I had never heard of this tool until now).
A set of software for obtaining ROOT privileges.
Driver_Qualcom_m.7z (9.27 MB) [link]
Enter HS QDSLoad 9008 mode from Vol + and Vol- off state and connect without releasing to USB
MiracleBox [link]
The Boot image is processed on the phone by the Magisk manager, then uploaded to the phone using Miracle again from the computer.
MagiskManager-v7.3.2.apk (2.71 MB) [link]
Just in case,
Backup firmware without / Data partition
Attached files
XposedInstaller_3.1.5-Magisk.apk (2.96 MB) [link]
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How may they have done that?
I'm sorry, I don't understand a lot of the root requirements part, since I was lucky and my 1st phone had the bootloader unlocked alreaedy for some reason and the second was as easy as writting a single command. But about this phone there's almost nothing and I'd like to know the general about this. If it's really necessary to have the bootloader unlocked, for example. And if it's not, then what methods can I use with it still locked?
Thanks in advance for any help!
Hello DADi590,
Unfortunately I can't answer all of your questions about S42. I have one of them and I am also looking for and confused with root procedures. But I can tell you that unlock boot loader was just a matter of get developer options on (tapping version # 10 times), and inside you can toogle lock/unlock bootloader...
How to root it safely is what I do not know yet.
good luck!
@DADi590
Rooting the Android OS of a device in practice is nothing more than adding the su cmdlet known from Linux OS to the Android OS. To root Android OS in no case requires device's bootloader must get unlocked to do so.
FYI: The bootloader of an Android device is comparable to the BIOS of a Windows computer.
Actually, after some time I decided to leave CAT alone and buy a Blackview one. If I'd break the phone, at least it wouldn't be as expensive as the CAT S42 (I bought a BV9500 - not Pro or Plus, the normal one).
Since then (with help of adventures with a tablet of mine) I've learned some more things. One of them I was suspecting and was now confirmed (thank you @jwoegerbauer) which is to root the device, just a binary file is needed to be on the correct place: su. I didn't know it was on other Linux OSes though. Interesting!
So the idea is that just a recovery must be installed to root a device. That's it and nothing else, I believe. To install the recovery is the part where one might need to unlock the bootloader - or not, if the chipset manufacturer left a tool to write partitions directly, like MediaTek or Rockchip. On these 2 it's possible to write partitions directly with a locked bootloader (this means the bootloader on my 1st phone was and still is probably locked - like my BV9500 one is, and I flashed various partitions on it already, one of them, a TWRP recovery).
This explanation is for anyone else like me who would have this question. Bootloader is just to flash partitions and I think run modified ROMs too, but not too sure about that (I never use custom ROMs). [Btw, if I said something wrong, I'm happy to be corrected!]
armandrix said:
Hello DADi590,
Unfortunately I can't answer all of your questions about S42. I have one of them and I am also looking for and confused with root procedures. But I can tell you that unlock boot loader was just a matter of get developer options on (tapping version # 10 times), and inside you can toogle lock/unlock bootloader...
How to root it safely is what I do not know yet.
good luck!
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I believe I asked this because I prefer that it's not required to unlock a bootloader to do stuff. If you screw the phone somehow with the bootloader locked and there's no tool to flash partitions on it and you must be on fastboot with an unlocked bootloader or whatever, you just bricked the phone. And I'd prefer that not to happen. That's why I chose to buy phones that don't need me to unlock the bootloader to do anything on them. That might mean I can't ever brick them (at least I never bricked my 1st phone with the various things I did on it which I later found out not being recommended at all XD).
I've unlocked the bootloader on my Cat S42. Can be done.

Bootloader locked after rooting.

Sorry, If this is a noob question. I'm new to this. I managed to successfully unlock the bootloader and Root my redmi note 4 . When I check the root status, it shows successfully Rooted. I'm able to give root access to adaway and it is working fine. I have also tried to install modules from magisk and it is working. But now when I go back to check the bootloader status it is showing locked.
P.s. I don't know what information would be useful to you in solving this. Feel free to ask any more information, I will try to reply as soon as possible.
Rooting phone's Android OS doesn't depend on whether phone's bootloader is locked or not.
Thank you, for the reply.
xXx yYy said:
Rooting phone's Android OS doesn't depend on whether phone's bootloader is locked or not.
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Thanks for the reply

Question Re-lock bootloader after root?

Hi folks,
I've managed to stumble my way through using pixel flasher to update my P7Pro to the latest fw with root. Only need root so I can record calls, should I lock the bootloader now I'm done?
Also how do I update in future please without having to wipe, use pixel flasher and patch as I've just done?
I like to think I'm quite tech savvy but the guides for the P7Pro have gone over my head :/
Connorsdad said:
Hi folks,
I've managed to stumble my way through using pixel flasher to update my P7Pro to the latest fw with root. Only need root so I can record calls, should I lock the bootloader now I'm done?
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Not unless you want to brick your device. You need to be completely stock before relocking your bootloader (unless using avbroot, but you should have a deep understanding about how it works beforehand).
Connorsdad said:
Also how do I update in future please without having to wipe, use pixel flasher and patch as I've just done?
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Pixel Flasher will work fine for updating.
Lughnasadh said:
Not unless you want to brick your device.
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Huh, learn something new every day I guess...
Lughnasadh said:
Not unless you want to brick your device. You need to be completely stock before relocking your bootloader (unless using avbroot, but you should have a deep understanding about how it works beforehand).
Pixel Flasher will work fine for updating.
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Awesome, thanks a lot for your reply, much appreciated.
never ever* lock bootloader on google devices. fastboot only works on unlocked bootloader and there is no alternative to fastboot.
* exception
alecxs said:
never ever lock bootloader on google devices. fastboot only works on unlocked bootloader and there is no alternative to fastboot.
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And you can't flash a factory image to fix a phone on your own when it's soft bricked. It might have to go to a shop for repairs.
Connorsdad said:
Hi folks,
I've managed to stumble my way through using pixel flasher to update my P7Pro to the latest fw with root. Only need root so I can record calls, should I lock the bootloader now I'm done?
Also how do I update in future please without having to wipe, use pixel flasher and patch as I've just done?
I like to think I'm quite tech savvy but the guides for the P7Pro have gone over my head :/
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AFAIK, relocking the bootloader requires wiping the device -- much like unlocking does -- and if you're unwilling to set everything (including anything on your /sdcard internal storage, not to mention all apps and their settings & system settings) back up from scratch (as any good complete backups require root access), this might not be what you wish to do.
And, if you had managed to successfully relock the bootloader, you could simply run the in-system update (OTA) that would update without wiping -- or even manually applying OTA from the recovery.
But there are hardly any benefits in re-locking the bootloader (after unlocking it) -- even if one was to a paranoid degree of security; which is the only major reason to (I can point you to the discussions that had taken place on it here, if you wish). If you don't want to run into any issues, you could simply run the stock ROM without root and be hardly impacted by it; with the added benefit of having the option to advanced recovery options and/or rooting options open to you in the future if need be...
alecxs said:
never ever lock bootloader on google devices. fastboot only works on unlocked bootloader and there is no alternative to fastboot.
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*it just occurs to me you meant to never lock bootloader because it limits options; not the risk of hard-bricking the device -- in which I wrote the following with that assumption. I'll leave the following comment as it is still sound advice, but I apologize in advanced that it doesn't quite relate to what you meant...
I mean, I feel doing Google's official Android Flash Tool is a safe enough method; it wouldn't do well if Google's own tool bricked their devices using their tool...at the very least the tool ensures that the stock factory firmware flashed matches the bootloader version and automates the fastboot commands so when re-locking the bootloader, it has the least potential to brick the device...
Exactly. there is no official flash tool from google, that's why I personally won't recommend to keep bootloader locked. If it's bricked with no working recovery mode, not even repair shop can fix it. all you can do is RMA to google get new device. no edl mode or anything else will help, fastboot is the official flashing method.
If you're referring to the "Android Flash Tool" that's no flash tool at all. I haven't tested it, but to me it looks like a WebUSB browser plugin. Reading the requirements it works with adb commands, usb-debugging and fully booted android is required. Therefore cannot unbrick devices.
Doesn't unlocking the bootloader break saftynet so then you have to root to use gpay?
iRhyiku said:
Doesn't unlocking the bootloader break saftynet so then you have to root to use gpay?
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I'll just chime in here because I have recently unlocked my bootloader but I haven't been able to root it yet and I haven't had any issues with safety net.
Trippyy Doee said:
I'll just chime in here because I have recently unlocked my bootloader but I haven't been able to root it yet and I haven't had any issues with safety net.
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Interesting, I thought unlocking would break it. I'll have to unlock then for the extra safty!
iRhyiku said:
Interesting, I thought unlocking would break it. I'll have to unlock then for the extra safty!
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That's of course another aspect. Good point. If you rely on SafetyNet or it's successor Play integrity, do not unlock bootloader. AFAIR the latter one can't be cheated.
simplepinoi177 said:
But there are hardly any benefits in re-locking the bootloader (after unlocking it)
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There are some benefits like some banking apps, streaming apps and games beginning to work. So it really depends on what is important for the user. I don't like flashing random mods to make apps work on rooted/ bootloader unlocked devices, primarily banking apps.

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