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As the title says - the latest OTA update, if I update will I lose root?
Thanks!
From what I understand, for a clean update OTA the firmware needs to be stock unrooted. The bootloader locked or unlocked.
Other people have succeeded in updating OTA with a modified system and able to patch, but it varies and it seems a lot of tweaking was involved after. I am no expert though.
eastdata said:
From what I understand, for a clean update OTA the firmware needs to be stock unrooted. The bootloader locked or unlocked.
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Till yesterday i thought the same.
Seems like it works also when it is rooted.
[GUIDE] How To Update Rooted Moto G ( US Global GSM)
secretkloud said:
Then I tried again. It went smoothly. And I still have root
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mokkami said:
Till yesterday i thought the same.
Seems like it works also when it is rooted.
[GUIDE] How To Update Rooted Moto G ( US Global GSM)
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So if I understand that thread correctly, if a system file is modified, the update will fail? So adding files (su apk and binaries) doesn't create a situation where the update fails? ...This is my dilemma in trying to understand what modified actually means. It's been a while since attempting mods on a device and it was easier on my last one.
Off topic, will unlocking the bootloader allow access to the stock recovery? I can reboot into it, but any command from the menu just gives me a No command screen or reboots the device. I can't remember it being this convoluted on my old phone. Yes, I know that the up key selects and the down is to navigate...
i just flash stock recovery and then updated.
after update i still have root, so i just flash back TWRP
Backup with CWM, factory reset, update, restore data.
@kurt99 and @theoneofgod
What firmware are you running and what model (any mods)?
I imagine that OTA updates are different for each version firmware...
eastdata said:
So if I understand that thread correctly, if a system file is modified, the update will fail? So adding files (su apk and binaries) doesn't create a situation where the update fails? ...This is my dilemma in trying to understand what modified actually means. It's been a while since attempting mods on a device and it was easier on my last one.
Off topic, will unlocking the bootloader allow access to the stock recovery? I can reboot into it, but any command from the menu just gives me a No command screen or reboots the device. I can't remember it being this convoluted on my old phone. Yes, I know that the up key selects and the down is to navigate...
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While it seems that OTAs are quite sensible to system changes whatever that means, it turned out that root doesn´t break the possibility to update.
You can access stock recovery with or without unlocked bootloader. This "no command screen" is a known thing and can easily be overcome by holding power and volume up buttons for 3 secs while on that screen.
drfr said:
You can access stock recovery with or without unlocked bootloader. This "no command screen" is a known thing and can easily be overcome by holding power and volume up buttons for 3 secs while on that screen.
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Thanks so much (I've been living in Android 2.1 world). :angel:
Standard UK retail, rooted ran the OTA update with no issues, and remains rooted.
eastdata said:
@kurt99 and @theoneofgod
What firmware are you running and what model (any mods)?
I imagine that OTA updates are different for each version firmware...
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Also Standard UK retail and remains rooted, also use XPOSED .
Hey guys,
after all these good messages (like DRM Backup/fix etc.) i consider to root my device finally, like i did with my old Z1. but im also interested in the new pie update to test it out. So im asking myself for some weeks now:
Should i finally root or wait till the update? i heard about the problem of downgrading that, once u get the update you couldn't downgrade to the exploitable fw. What's more, I want to keep my warranty (i know that drm backup is working but the message, that my device cannot be trusted is still there at every boot). i use several banking apps that checks for root and my experience with magisk and root hiding weren't so good at all.
Thats my current situation. Should i root or not?
Irrespective of the Android Version, Rooting on XZP requires you to UNLOCK the bootloader and loosing your DRM KEYS.
so the solution is either xperifix or posts in XDA offering kernels of specific builds for you to flash.
1. lets say you are on OREO and unlock your bootloader, if you wana root that oreo version, you must find the post on XDA offering modded kernels W.R.T that buildnumber for you to flash and flash drmfix.zip & finally flash Magisk.
2. let say you are on PIE, again you will do the same, but I am not sure they already have modded kernels available on xda or not. so make sure!!!
the third option is always (disputed tool on xda known as) xperifix.
YasuHamed said:
Irrespective of the Android Version, Rooting on XZP requires you to UNLOCK the bootloader and loosing your DRM KEYS.
so the solution is either xperifix or posts in XDA offering kernels of specific builds for you to flash.
1. lets say you are on OREO and unlock your bootloader, if you wana root that oreo version, you must find the post on XDA offering modded kernels W.R.T that buildnumber for you to flash and flash drmfix.zip & finally flash Magisk.
2. let say you are on PIE, again you will do the same, but I am not sure they already have modded kernels available on xda or not. so make sure!!!
the third option is always (disputed tool on xda known as) xperifix.
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Im aware that i have to unlock the BL and all that stuff that i have to flash, thats not the problem at all. im just not sure if i should wait for the update (since some people experience some problems and they said they couldn't downgrade) and root or not. im currently waiting for the OTA update since my provider is vodafone and they take their time before releasing the fw. the benefits of the new updates, that i heard, are just some fixes for Android, new design for the camera ui, full hd ultra slow mo and some ui changes on xperia home. or did i miss some new functions?
If you unlook the BL, OTA didn't work anymore : so you must upgrade the phone by yourself. Via newflasher or (if you've a ftf file flash tool) you can up and downgrade when ever you want. I didn't know exactly in this this moment, how to hold the user data.... you lost in this moment only the feature video enhanced (something with X-....) if you unlook the BL and upgrade to Pie
Does anyone know how to root? Till yet ?
Today IT was my Christmas.present
Thanks
Daniel
No source from motorola, nor updates yet.
Hello you can root your moto with magisk.
Mounib BOULAABI said:
Hello you can root your moto with magisk.
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If you have a copy of the boot.img
Sent from my mata using XDA Labs
Thanks by the way. I found i way to root my Device.
Please do tell, how?
Danieldergrosse said:
Thanks by the way. I found i way to root my Device.
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Would you mind sharing your way to root your device? Every piece of knowledge can help other users here on XDA.
Sent from my Moto G5 Plus using XDA Labs
http://androidbiits.com/root-motorola-moto-g8-plus-xt2019-2-xt2019-1-easily/
This method
Danieldergrosse said:
http://androidbiits.com/root-motorola-moto-g8-plus-xt2019-2-xt2019-1-easily/
This method
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your link seems dead or not correct. - edit: link correct, was not working due to my vpn...
I assume he patched a G8+ boot.img with magisk manager.
boot image can be extracted from official Doha firmware found here: https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/doha/official/
manual on how to do this can be found on official magisk manager website.
be aware that when unlocking bootloader your phone will reset to factory settings.
This is what I did. Yes..
Worked great for my G8+. I guess people should just check which stock ROM file they get from lolinet to make sure it's the right one. I say that because, in my case, lolinet list had two files for the Brazilian stock ROM. I went to Settings / About / Version number and downloaded the matching file. Don't know whether the other file would work the same or not. Just didn't want to risk having any issue since G8+ is somewhat new and there's not much info on solving root problems on the Internet.
Hi,
Couple of questions
Does the Bootloader have to be Unlocked to flash the modified Boot image?
Or can I use update option?
Are Motorola releasing unlock numbers for Bootloader now?
Thanks, Carl
carl.13 said:
Hi,
Couple of questions
Does the Bootloader have to be Unlocked to flash the modified Boot image?
Or can I use update option?
Are Motorola releasing unlock numbers for Bootloader now?
Thanks, Carl
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Hello, Carl. I guess it's not possible unless there's a flaw in the security. There are some articles on the Internet about that. Google "is-there-a-way-to-root-an-android-phone-without-unlocking-the-bootloader". I can't post URLs yet.
As for Motorola devices, I was able to unlock the bootloader without problems on my G8+, last week. The only caveat, I'm my case, is that I had to wait some days for the unlock bootloader option be available under developer options. It was disabled by default in my G8+. And, yes, they're releasing bootloader unlocking codes.
THANKS!
Have anybody with a rooted device tried to get wide angle camera working in gcam ports?
Thanks.
successfully rooted my Moto G8 Plus using the info in this thread
but for some reason I can't delete bloatware, even by deleting apps from root browsers or trying few solution I found on google
esrd43 said:
successfully rooted my Moto G8 Plus using the info in this thread
but for some reason I can't delete bloatware, even by deleting apps from root browsers or trying few solution I found on google
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magisk module debloater and also sdmaid helped with most of the bloatware, the only thing I could not remove was google files but I just deactivated it.
a really weird thing happened with the April 1st update, basically the update started automatically and it failed at 3/6 so I tought I should restart my phone and test it again, but it got stuck in bootloop and I had to reflash a rom with fastboot cmd.
I think that's because I unlocked the bootloader and rooted my phone, cause u lose the right for updates after you do that, but for some reason lenovo/moto update system goes automatically the next second u connect to the internet and fails halfway thru so u have a higher chance to ruin your phone or something, instead of denying the update from the start
so the solution I found was to try and delete "moto update service" app that I can't force stop or disable but I couldnt find it in system/app or system/priv-app, that's because the app name is "3c_ota", so deleting that with SD Maid app worked and the "update system" option in settings is reverted to a sort of default android one that lets you check manually.
Had a similiar issue. I soft bricked my phone (bootloop) and installed a stock rom from an unofficial source. The funny thing is, this version did make like 3 or 4 system upgrades to PPSI.29.65-51 without any issue. But the 1st April updated failed to install. I then flashed the official 1st april stock image with the moto rescue and smart assistant. After that, the official ROM tells me my phone is not allowed to do updates because the security of this phone is compromised and I should contact lenovo support
Those upates are kinda annoying if they don't work, I guess I'll just completey flash the phone every 6-12 months with the moto assistant.
yeah you should always have a backup rom that you can download with moto assistant or from lolinet g8 roms (https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/doha/official/)
I also got the same message saying that my phone is compromised ( unlocked bootloader + rooted) and it won't receive any further updates, but I just deleted the "3c_ota" app (the moto update service) which is bad cause if forces automatic updates the second u connect to internet.
I'm not going to touch any further updates or security patches until android 10, which I will attempt to flash via moto assistant
Hi
I changed my CSC way before for activate native call recording feature.
But i just realized that i didnt get any OTA at all and this phrase that "your device is up to date" is totally non sense.
Would you please kindly help me out.
Most likely because it's a carrier update not a system update, most android updates are security patches anyway.
I would sleep over it, you don't need to update your device if it's working fast and nicely.
Hello Guys,
I Just wanted to know how I root my pixel 3 with android 12 just guide mn or is there already a thread than give me a link but plz for android 12
Rooting Android 12 works exactly the same as Android 11 on the Pixel 3.
Since there were no obvious guides, I just wrote one for the Pixel 3. Here you go.
Thanks for help
Can u tell me is there any twrp for android 12
Not that I know of, at least it doesn't work on my rooted P3 running Android 11
Hmm so how we install custom roms
rocketrazr1999 said:
Not that I know of, at least it doesn't work on my rooted P3 running Android 11
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Update... Android 12 can be rooted using Magisk Canary
I was able to take an OTA update to Android 12 on my BL unlocked, rooted, custom kerneled Pixel 3! I started the update accidentally by hitting that pop up reminder and after a minute of thinking what to do (i did not want to lose my data!!!), I held down the power button to force it to reboot during the update. I have had this work to stop an OTA update and restore it perfectly to previous state. Anyway, it did NOT work this time, and it updated to A12 perfectly! No loss of data, no loss of custom kernel, but i did of course lose root. Also.... when i checked the update version in settings, it wanted to update AGAIN, from Oct 21 to Feb 22 (which is just an Emergency Dialer patch). My phone still shows Oct 21 security patch in settings, but shows the Feb 22 firmware (...016.C1), which suggests the patch was only a tiny fix to the 911 Dialer and did not affect anything else. So this time i let it update, which i started to think was stuck or looping after waiting about an hour, but finally i checked the progress and it was done, requesting a reboot! So i rebooted it and behold, its now running final security update to the Pixel 3, and all i need to do now is root with Magisk and install SafetyNet Fix. Which is the ONLY thing i can think of as to how it was able to do a factory OTA update while rooted and BL unlocked! The SafetyNet Fix patch may be so good that it bypasses the Google security measure that refuses to allow OTA updates on rooted, unlocked Pixel 3s. Yup, on a GOOGLE PIXEL! I used to have to unroot and install the factory kernel to do an OTA sideload on my old Essential in order to update and not lose data, but i was told that you could not update to new Android versions without losing your data on the P3, so Ii just figured my Sept 21 A11 firmware was the final update until a phone upgrade. Anyway, just wanted to pass on the good news that you CAN perform a factory OTA update from A11 to A12 on the Pixel 3 WHILE rooted and unlocked and with a custom kernel, but I of course have to recommend you do so on your own, and if anyone has an unused or non-daily driver P3 that want to confirm this good news, please do so and help convince the disbelievers ! The ONLY thing i would recommend is that you have the latest "Android 12" version of SafetyNet Fix installed with the switches on in Magisk, which is what i had. Its the only thing i can think of that would allow Google's Safety Net to bypass the security restrictions. OK then, hope a few of you give it a try to show im not a nutcase, lol.
Question kind of related to this... Was the P3 kernel updated in Android 12 to fix that race condition that causes freezes if using systemless hosts? With A11 I always had to make sure I installed a custom kernel before Magisk and enabling systemless hosts to keep my P3 from freezing.