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I've been doing a lot of testing with different sim cards the last few days, and thought I'd share my results. I have identified with 100% certainty the reason why some people on miui can't get wifi calling working, while others can. It is 100% caused by the sim card. If you have the older style sim card, with the black numbering on the front, it will work every time. Newer style it doesn't, or maybe once per 50 reboots. (That one has gold lettering on the front.)
Another thing I've discovered, (which ironically I wasn't testing for ), is this also seems to be the cause of the "apn issue" that people have on cm7. Same deal, older style sim cards don't seem to have it at all. Newer ones do. I have access to 3 different sim cards from tmobile, all activiated on different numbers. I have two of the newer style ones, and one older. Each test was done with 30 reboots each. (I was going cross-eyed by the end of it.)
1st card, new style, one I got with the phone.
- Miui - No wifi calling at all
- cm7 - Apn issue 4 out of 30 reboots
2nd card, also new style, from a different phone.
- Miui - Again, no wifi calling working on any boot
- cm7 - Apn issue 6 out of 30 reboots
3rd card, old style sim card (and although they say new ones increase the 4g speed, after multiple tests I didn't see one difference between any of them speed wise)
- Miui - Wifi calling working perfectly on every boot
- cm7 - not one apn issue out of 30 boots.
So, while this is a small sample size, (I don't have more sim cards, and I really couldn't do more than 90 reboots without loosing my mind), it seems to show the cause of the problem.
There really isn't much I can see them being able to fix this. I'm guessing the miui devs and cm7 devs are using testers that have the old style sim card, or have the old style themselves (depending on if they have the phone or not.) Now since you can't really troubleshoot an issue you can't re-create, this might be something we all have to live with.
I just figured I'd post this so people who had these issues know now they're not insane, and they're not doing anything wrong, it's a compatibility issue.
If anyone else does find something different than what my tests show, please either respond or send me a pm. I'd be very interested to see others results as well. (Like I said, correlation is not causation, so this could very well be a fluke test with such a small sample size.)
Good job on the test. Unfortunately I have a sim card with black writing, and I still have the APN issues with CM7, as well as the occasional wifi calling issue.
Damn. Well it is sim card related, but perhaps there are a few more types that I wasn't able to test with. Did you get your sim-card with the phone? Or did you have an older phone and used the same simcard in the newer one? (The old one I'm using is at least 4 years old, if that helps.)
how can i help
Thanks for the info. I bet that drove you up a wall. I have 1 maybe 2 of the old "3g" Sims. And 2 newer ones from TMobile Replacing the "3g" ones. And I have 4 brand new ones that came with both of my devices. I kept them when I returned the phone. Let me see what I can do to help. I run cm7 and modified versions of the stock rom. I have big time issues and want to help resolve this.
I agree with the comments about developers....but remember this not there day jobs and they do depend on us to submit info...but then with all of the talk about apn's you would think at least one would have fought on. I have a copy of xboarders Apn fix....never really looked at it. I just keep using apnsbu from the market. I will report back with findings. Thinks for. The post and something to do...
Oh that statement wasn't in any way meant to be a shot at any of the devs, I'm just stating that you can't blame them not being able to look at a problem they are unable to re-create. Infact, it was just the opposite. It was more like saying it's not their fault in the least.
And please let me know your results. (Yes, it was driving me nuts. I've been going through logs, the init.rc, all the added init scripts, everywhere trying to figure out why it wasn't working. This was a last ditch effort, figuring it couldn't possibly be this but there was nothing else to try. Go figure )
This is turning out to be very tedious. My old sim from my tmo shadow/Juno days is a bit unreadable. The number has been tuned and is in readable. But no worries the bb still works and disabled to read the serial number....now on hold with TMobile. I am starting to think I really called at&t. Any how what I would like to knowis how can we identify what card is what. I see some noticeable differences like the old one has a big ger gold contact area, the numbers where in black, and the design on the old one on the contact side is gray. There is. Nothing legible on it. But I do know it is one of the old ones. Is came with a 3g phone from like 3 years ago. I am supplying this info to possibly help identify what Sims work. I will post pics later if needed.....still waiting. Off topic but all three hold songs suck. If they want to keep people happy then they should get some new "caller tunes" will report back more later....25 minutes on hold now.......
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Damn. Well it is sim card related, but perhaps there are a few more types that I wasn't able to test with. Did you get your sim-card with the phone? Or did you have an older phone and used the same simcard in the newer one? (The old one I'm using is at least 4 years old, if that helps.)
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I believe my sim card is around 3 years old, but I'm trying to think whether I might have gotten a new one during one of my phone upgrades. Not really sure...
Ok I can not further test this today. Turns out that they have to release the old similar card.?.?. What ever that means. Did some questioning. This is what I got. My old card is a 2g. The new cards are 3g. 3g card is needed for 4g. How to tell a 3g from 2g is a marking on the contact side of the card. 3G cards say "TM9073"
So if people could help with trend analys that would help a lot. Info need is...
1) do you have apn issues.
2) what, if any, markings do you have on the contact side of your sim.
3) what rom and version are you using.
4) kernel info.
5) baseband.
This could be helpfully to us and any developer that is willing to help figure this out.
Edit: I have not tried the miui roms. I will help as much as I can with miui, but I think this is the same issue with different Results. So I am adding in the rom question.
Edit 2) wifi calling will come up invalid sim when apn is lost on cm7
1) do you have apn issues.
Yes
2) what, if any, markings do you have on the contact side of your sim.
No markings on the contact side of the sim
3) what rom and version are you using.
CM7 Nightly 114
4) kernel info.
CM
5) baseband.
July version
1) yes
2) TM9073
3) cm7 nightly 113 8/20/2011
4) 2.6.32.41shade @toxygene #1
5) July 15
BY THE WAY NEW R34 128k sims are now available.
im currently running this sim and i have no issues whatsoever!
Do you know of any way on how to id this sim? From others?
If you have an old T-Mobile sim you should be able to call them and tell them you wish to change your number and service to the old sim card. You give them the number on the old sim (if you can read it) and tell them you want to do a sim swap. I have done this before on a prepaid account. I don't see how a sim could increase your data connection speed. The new sims just have larger phone books and can accept longer names, etc.
I called yesterday. They released the sim. What ever that does. So some time today I need to call back and set it up. I have many sims on hand to try but this is the oldest one. I am not worried about how many numbers I can store on. I just want to help try and find a solution to the apn issues using custom roms. Any information posted here in regards to apn or sim cards is usefull. I see people reading this so please chime in. Even the smallest bit of info could help.
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So if people could help with trend analys that would help a lot. Info need is...
1) do you have apn issues.
No APN issues ever. WiFi calling doesn't work with MIUI, works 90% of the time with CM7.
2) what, if any, markings do you have on the contact side of your sim.
TM9073
3) what rom and version are you using.
CM7 Nightly #109
4) kernel info.
Default CM7 kernel
5) baseband.
July
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If you have an old T-Mobile sim you should be able to call them and tell them you wish to change your number and service to the old sim card. You give them the number on the old sim (if you can read it) and tell them you want to do a sim swap. I have done this before on a prepaid account. I don't see how a sim could increase your data connection speed. The new sims just have larger phone books and can accept longer names, etc.
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Ok could not go back to old 2g sim. Rep gave me many reasons as to why it would not work after submitting it 3 time. The 3g sim I was using was new in early may replacing 2g sim. Insted of reverting back to current 3g sim I decided to use the sim that came with my g2x. I noticed that the contact area on the new 3g sim was slightly different then the old 3g from may. Both. Sims had that "T" code on the contact side. I guess it is time to test. Report more tomorrow.
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Update: new 3g sim card a waste of time. Did a reboot and no data. I wish I knew where to look. Cm7 and miui seem to be a waste of time. I need wifi calling at home. Does any one have any ideas? Are their any developers willing to help? Is there some where or some one we can report this to?
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Ive found the same thing as OP. WIFI started acting up when I finally switched to using the sim that can't with the phone. Never had any issues with the old one. When I pop the old sim back in wifi is perfect. I'm kicking myself now because I cant reregister my old sim because all the numbers are rubbed off.
FYI: try inserting sim in other device's. Depending on the device you can go into setting and read the sim card number. I used a @#$%berry 8220 Pearl flip. I wish you luck. I just tried to revert back to my old sim. They could not push it because it was inactive to long. Something like 30 days. Keep us posted.
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Yes RC is working on the sim card issue.
http://goo.gl/GURhw
After reading through the big "dropped data" thread, the Q&A section, a few other stories about data dropouts, and finally my own experience having to replace one, I've come to only one possible conclusion - this phone is frying SIM cards. The question remains - is it the hardware doing it, the software doing it, or perhaps Verizon's network doing it? The use of a SIM on Verizon's network is a new thing, and it's clear that they were not ready for their 4G rollout. Remember the overnight network outages last month? VZW is trying and failing to cover their asses. Google the various devices on their network - "Bionic," "Thunderbolt," "Revolution" and the words "Data Dropout."
We've been sold defective goods with no potential fix in sight (people flashing the latest GB leaks have confirmed that data dropouts still occur). Verizon knows how many Droid Charges have been coming back, hell, how many devices in general are coming back. We've been screwed over by Samsung, who it's almost certain will drop this thing like a bad habit after the GB update. We've been screwed over by VZW who are, by now, well aware that there's an issue.
I'm thinking that this could be grounds for a class action lawsuit. (not trolling, and not trying to start a flame war). I seriously think that Verizon needs to get their collective corporate heads out of their collective corporate colons.
/rant
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After reading through the big "dropped data" thread, the Q&A section, a few other stories about data dropouts, and finally my own experience having to replace one, I've come to only one possible conclusion - this phone is frying SIM cards. The question remains - is it the hardware doing it, the software doing it, or perhaps Verizon's network doing it? The use of a SIM on Verizon's network is a new thing, and it's clear that they were not ready for their 4G rollout. Remember the overnight network outages last month? VZW is trying and failing to cover their asses. Google the various devices on their network - "Bionic," "Thunderbolt," "Revolution" and the words "Data Dropout."
We've been sold defective goods with no potential fix in sight (people flashing the latest GB leaks have confirmed that data dropouts still occur). Verizon knows how many Droid Charge's have been coming back, hell, how many devices in general are coming back. We've been screwed over by Samsung, who it's almost certain will drop this thing like a bad habit after the GB update. We've been screwed over by VZW who are, by now, well aware that there's an issue.
I'm thinking that this could be grounds for a class action lawsuit. (not trolling, and not trying to start a flame war). I seriously think that Verizon needs to get their collective corporate heads out of their collective corporate colons.
/rant
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I could be wrong but I think its the flashing we all do and switching modems that does it, not necessarily just the phone or network as I have yet to see someone running a stock Charge burn one out
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I could be wrong but I think its the flashing we all do and switching modems that does it, not necessarily just the phone or network as I have yet to see someone running a stock Charge burn one out
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I flashed only once, and it was dropping data long before that. That, and I've been reading other forums (blasphemy, right?) - brand new Charges have problems, too. Example - http://androidforums.com/samsung-droid-charge/414530-new-droid-charge-sim-card-problem.html
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I flashed only once, and it was dropping data long before that. That, and I've been reading other forums (blasphemy, right?) - brand new Charges have problems, too. Example - http://androidforums.com/samsung-droid-charge/414530-new-droid-charge-sim-card-problem.html
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I meant solely for the sim burnout issue its not necessarily all network/hardware I don't think... I have data droppage too though and for that I will say yes its the network/hardware/software i.e. nothing we can fix ourselves
anoninja118 said:
I meant solely for the sim burnout issue its not necessarily all network/hardware I don't think... I have data droppage too though and for that I will say yes its the network/hardware/software i.e. nothing we can fix ourselves
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So did I. New phones wouldn't be burning out SIM cards if it was the flashing, and I highly doubt flashing one rooted ROM, once, would burn out the card. Also, when I got to the Verizon store to replace it, the dude had said I was at least the 3rd person in there replacing theirs in a Charge.
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I could be wrong but I think its the flashing we all do and switching modems that does it, not necessarily just the phone or network as I have yet to see someone running a stock Charge burn one out
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My sim had to be replaced 2 weeks ago because I lost data for over 24 hours by the time I got to the retail store for them to waste another 90 min troubleshooting before finally just replacing the damn thing. I was stock and only flashed to Humble 5 four days ago. It's the phone. My buddy at work had his sim card go tits up a week before mine, he was also stock at the time.
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I could be wrong but I think its the flashing we all do and switching modems that does it, not necessarily just the phone or network as I have yet to see someone running a stock Charge burn one out
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Probably because the person running stock wouldn't be in these forums...probably would just take it into a Verizon store and we would never hear about it.
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I've been through 2 sim's myself. I take the sim out when using odin, I really think its the phone.
I haven't burnt a sim card yet. I've odin about 6 times and flashed cwm about 8. I think I have killed my battery. It used to last 12 to 16 hours but now only 8.
I do get data drops. I'm locked in 3g because now 4g in area.
I have yet to damage a SIM. I have two Charges and collectively have flashed about 50 times. About 20 of those were flashes with the SIM in.
So far so good...
I agree
I'm on my third sim card, the first one i thought was because I flashed with it in there. but the second and now the third have just crapped out even though i hadn't flashed anything in days, and i pulled the sim religiously when i was flashing. My data switching would go on the fritz, 4g wouldn't hold, but instead of switching it would just sit there blank. Then you go 3g only and there's nothing, not even a 3g logo. then airplane mode, radio reset, finally like 15 reboots a day to keep a data connection when there usually isn't a problem.
I don't care if its the phone or the sim, i just know it sucks, i emailed verizon and told them if there's nothing they can do about it, they need to roll up my upgrade or prepare to lose a customer. I'll walk away. It worked, they rolled me forward from july 2012 to later this month. Just in time for the Galaxy Nexus. However, the GN is a samsung phone, so i've been on the fence big time about that one. If the radios are not the same model then i'm down, if they are, rezound here i come.
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I have yet to damage a SIM. I have two Charges and collectively have flashed about 50 times. About 20 of those were flashes with the SIM in.
So far so good...
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Out of curiosity... how are you with data drops? Are you in a 4g area? I'm starting to think the constant network issues may be what's doing it - the phone having to reauthenticate onto the network like a million times a day, reading the SIM (sending current through it) might be causing the burnouts.
It's pretty clear I'm not the only person experiencing them.
Thats what the person I talked to last night suggested.
I've never damaged a sim either although I did remove the card during all my many Odin sessions.
I have no data problems whatever with my phone. While traveling, I did run into an area where my phone started dropping data a bit but my boss was with me and his Bionic was dropping data in the same areas also.
~John
i posted this on another website's forum yesterday...sorry for those who read it twice, but i got no responses and am desperate.
so my launch day phone had a bit of an accident last weekend the screen cracked. I was able to get another thunderbolt from someone, was originally a refurb (tag under battery says "remanufactured in Philippines" )
any who I've been using the refurb one for about a week now, no major issues. But now today I can't get LTE at all...I've tried reflashing different radios, going back to sense over CM7...nothing. Put the same sim card in another phone right next to it, LTE.
What else can I do? thanks in advance
Have you installed an app recently that is messing up the phone? Have you checked to see if LTE is active on the phone? *#*#4636#*#* and check your phone info. Could always try flashing another radio.
Why does everyone start flashing radios and performing hard resets on their phones when a signal problem shows up? Wouldn't it be wise to contact Verizon first and make sure it isn't their problem? If you haven't changed anything on your phone, there's a 99% chance that verizon is having an off day.
nothing comes to mind that i would of installed that triggered this.
tried different radios.
called verizon to see what they can do. Looks like I can get a replacement phone shipped out. Now to return to stock. thanks.
djxstream said:
called verizon to see what they can do. Looks like I can get a replacement phone shipped out. Now to return to stock. thanks.
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I'm surprised the VZW rep didn't tell you that it's because the 4G sim cards are paired with your phone. I tried to swap 2 4G phones on my account in the past and I was told that the 4G cards are associated to the phones and they would need to send me out new 4G sim cards. This was a while ago, so I'm not sure if it's still valid, but I would think that they'd have a way to re-link the sim cards on their end.
Good luck with this.
I just bought a phone the guy who made no mention of the fact that it was rooted when I bought it. What is worse is he mentioned that his GF worked for Verizon, which did not seem to mean much at the time. Knowing that here is what i'm dealing with.
I was in a rush when I checked out the phone as I had to meet another person to pick one up for my wife as well. It's the sch-i575 in white 16gb. After having a minute to look at the phone it turns out he had Paranoid Android flashed and the phone was rooted. CRAP! Not what I was looking for and he was not upfront about it. The incredibly strange thing was that with NO SIMCARD the phone was getting 3g signal! I spent all night trying to unroot \ undo what he did. I managed to use ODIN to get back to the stock rom although I think it's still a rooted one since I still have the super user app. I got a sim card from verizon but since it was rooted I did not bring the phone in and when I tried to activate later it would not activate. My wife's by the way is working flawless and when I put my sim in her phone it works fine as well. I had to put the sim in my wife's phone and it activated there. Here is the crazy thing, with or with out a simcard the phone makes calls and has 3g internet only but when I make a call it uses HIS NUMBER!! I'm not sure what the hell to do, what could have he done? Any ideas? Please all help is appreciated! I did not think this was even possible for the phone to function w/o a sim. I'm worried about taking it in to Verizon because of the funkiness. Ty again for any insight...
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I just bought a phone the guy who made no mention of the fact that it was rooted when I bought it. What is worse is he mentioned that his GF worked for Verizon, which did not seem to mean much at the time. Knowing that here is what i'm dealing with.
I was in a rush when I checked out the phone as I had to meet another person to pick one up for my wife as well. It's the sch-i575 in white 16gb. After having a minute to look at the phone it turns out he had Paranoid Android flashed and the phone was rooted. CRAP! Not what I was looking for and he was not upfront about it. The incredibly strange thing was that with NO SIMCARD the phone was getting 3g signal! I spent all night trying to unroot \ undo what he did. I managed to use ODIN to get back to the stock rom although I think it's still a rooted one since I still have the super user app. I got a sim card from verizon but since it was rooted I did not bring the phone in and when I tried to activate later it would not activate. My wife's by the way is working flawless and when I put my sim in her phone it works fine as well. I had to put the sim in my wife's phone and it activated there. Here is the crazy thing, with or with out a simcard the phone makes calls and has 3g internet only but when I make a call it uses HIS NUMBER!! I'm not sure what the hell to do, what could have he done? Any ideas? Please all help is appreciated! I did not think this was even possible for the phone to function w/o a sim. I'm worried about taking it in to Verizon because of the funkiness. Ty again for any insight...
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It sounds like you didnt flash the proper stock image. I would start with that and report back.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1755386
tekkski said:
I just bought a phone the guy who made no mention of the fact that it was rooted when I bought it. What is worse is he mentioned that his GF worked for Verizon, which did not seem to mean much at the time. Knowing that here is what i'm dealing with.
I was in a rush when I checked out the phone as I had to meet another person to pick one up for my wife as well. It's the sch-i575 in white 16gb. After having a minute to look at the phone it turns out he had Paranoid Android flashed and the phone was rooted. CRAP! Not what I was looking for and he was not upfront about it. The incredibly strange thing was that with NO SIMCARD the phone was getting 3g signal! I spent all night trying to unroot \ undo what he did. I managed to use ODIN to get back to the stock rom although I think it's still a rooted one since I still have the super user app. I got a sim card from verizon but since it was rooted I did not bring the phone in and when I tried to activate later it would not activate. My wife's by the way is working flawless and when I put my sim in her phone it works fine as well. I had to put the sim in my wife's phone and it activated there. Here is the crazy thing, with or with out a simcard the phone makes calls and has 3g internet only but when I make a call it uses HIS NUMBER!! I'm not sure what the hell to do, what could have he done? Any ideas? Please all help is appreciated! I did not think this was even possible for the phone to function w/o a sim. I'm worried about taking it in to Verizon because of the funkiness. Ty again for any insight...
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I thought the I575 was an old slide phone. So A. your in the wrong section of the forum since this is Verizon's S3 or B. you mentioned the wrong device number? I saw phones before working and running on networks without sim-cards but that was years ago. If it is an S3, you sure it's a Verizon device? Also since you see 3g....can you browse around in the browser or make a phone call?
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galchristian said:
I thought the I575 was an old slide phone. So A. your in the wrong section of the forum since this is Verizon's S3 or B. you mentioned the wrong device number? I saw phones before working and running on networks without sim-cards but that was years ago. If it is an S3, you sure it's a Verizon device? Also since you see 3g....can you browse around in the browser or make a phone call?
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Yes, it's a galaxy s3 16gb in white. It looks like currently I was using the tar66 using ODIN. I'm reverting back to the bone stock one now. As far as the models go isn't the SCH-I575 the Verizon version of the S3?
I'm waiting on the stock unrooted rom to take through ODIN and will report back. Thank you for taking the time to try and help.
Ohh, yes the internet works and when I make phone calls with or with out my sim in it makes calls successfully but the other guys number shows up. What the heck did this guy do to the phone!
Our model is the SCH-i535
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Our model is the SCH-i535
Dont thank/like/rep my posts or ill report you.
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You are obviously absolutley correct. I'm frantically trying to figure this out. I have flashed the stock rom and don't have super user anymore. The problem persists with the guys number.
Could he have flashed a custom kernel and modem or does reverting back using the stock rom cover all that ?
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You are obviously absolutley correct. I'm frantically trying to figure this out. I have flashed the stock rom and don't have super user anymore. The problem persists with the guys number.
Could he have flashed a custom kernel and modem or does reverting back using the stock rom cover all that ?
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The one i linked covers all that and completely erases all data on the phone. Did you insert your sim after the stock flash?
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The one i linked covers all that and completely erases all data on the phone. Did you insert your sim after the stock flash?
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I just double checked and I had the I535VRLAG1 version, yours is the I535VRALF2 in the link you posted trying this now. The crazy thing is that it even says that the sim is activated with MY number! but the calls are still comming from him. I even tried wiping the device and clearing the cache. I also tried to JUST flash the modem with VRLG1.modem.tar.md5 and nothing :\. Waiting on the file from your link to download and will try that.
Is it possible that this is being caused by something on Verizon's end? The phone ( with out the SIM ) is registered to him somehow? I know this is not normal but because his GF worked for Verizon could they have done something funky?
Yeah its definitely possible its from something she did to the phone but most likely nothing from Verizon's end. Does the IMEI number under status match the IMEI number under the battery?
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Yeah its definitely possible its from something she did to the phone but most likely nothing from Verizon's end. Does the IMEI number under status match the IMEI number under the battery?
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Yes IMEI is the same in the OS as behind the battery.
The curious thing is that on the same screen in the OS where you find the IMEI there is also a field called Network and it says " Unknown"
It also has things like:
Eri v : 5
Mobile network type : EvDo-rev.a:8
The thing I keep coming back to is how is it possible for this phone to make calls\ have data with out a sim?
Starting to really think I got cheated
Cheated? Sounds like you have free Verizon service.
Roll with it. If you really want a bill you can have mine...
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Yes IMEI is the same in the OS as behind the battery.
The curious thing is that on the same screen in the OS where you find the IMEI there is also a field called Network and it says " Unknown"
It also has things like:
Eri v : 5
Mobile network type : EvDo-rev.a:8
The thing I keep coming back to is how is it possible for this phone to make calls\ have data with out a sim?
Starting to really think I got cheated
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Very strange that's for sure. Try re-provisioning the device *2767*3855#
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Very strange that's for sure. Try re-provisioning the device *2767*3855#
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Just did and the same thing happened. I went to the Verizon store and the guy there had no idea and got me in touch with tech support from the store. They were dumbfounded and flat out said that what is happening is impossible. "It's impossible to make\receive phone calls with out a sim unless they are emergency" I harped on the fact that I am making phone calls as one of their other customers and that this is a big deal. In the end since I had the insurance and extended warranty they will ship me a new phone.
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Just did and the same thing happened. I went to the Verizon store and the guy there had no idea and got me in touch with tech support from the store. They were dumbfounded and flat out said that what is happening is impossible. "It's impossible to make\receive phone calls with out a sim unless they are emergency" I harped on the fact that I am making phone calls as one of their other customers and that this is a big deal. In the end since I had the insurance and extended warranty they will ship me a new phone.
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Wow... you gave away free service
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Yeah i agree. Screw it. Just forward your number to the new one until everyone gets used to the new number. Free service equals win baby win
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Yeah just another update thread. Who here is still getting the no sim error after installing the update it is now worse for me! I am more of a reader and not a poster im just curious is there a work around for this like for example has anyone installed a rom and the problem went away?
LIttle Rant: I have had nothing but motorola smartphones Droid X, Droid Bionic, Razr Maxx so I got curious since the S3 is one of the top selling phones to check it out and let me tell you love the phone but getting that stupid error all the time is annoying I picked my s3 up thinking I could make a quick sell on my razr maxx but now im stuck switching back and forth between the S3 and the razr maxx Verizon even sent me a replacement did that help? nope now its been 3 days they have a ticket open so who knows any help would be apprectiated and lets hear your story!
I'm still getting it, even worse than before I installed the new modem (radio). It seems to be more prevalent in areas where it's switching from 4g to 3g and back. If I'm in an area that has a strong 3g or 4g signal, it never gives me that problem. Has to be a Verizon thing or something with the SG3 that can't handle the switching between the two modes, just not sure......
amaury48 said:
I'm still getting it, even worse than before I installed the new modem (radio). It seems to be more prevalent in areas where it's switching from 4g to 3g and back. If I'm in an area that has a strong 3g or 4g signal, it never gives me that problem. Has to be a Verizon thing or something with the SG3 that can't handle the switching between the two modes, just not sure......
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UPDATE: I can confirm that if I place myself in a particular position in town where my phone will constantly switch between 3g and 4g and I attempt to send SMS messages my phone inevitably drops all data signal and gives me the no sim and no connectivity message.
I haven't been to were I used to get them bad....but I got one in an area yesterday where I generally get a strong 4G single that I had never had the no SIM issue before.
I was not happy.
galaxy. s3. synergy. yadda yadda.
I am getting it all the time at my house sometimes to the point where the phone does not work at all but if I drive down the road phone works flawless no errors even at work no errors im starting to think it might not be the phone it could be there network but for the hell of it lastnight I switched back from my razr maxx at home and the phone worked fine and when I woke up phone was fine im wondering if this only happens when the network is more at peak operation im growing very frustrated with this phone might off it and just use the razr maxx or hope for another update.
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I am getting it all the time at my house sometimes to the point where the phone does not work at all but if I drive down the road phone works flawless no errors even at work no errors im starting to think it might not be the phone it could be there network but for the hell of it lastnight I switched back from my razr maxx at home and the phone worked fine and when I woke up phone was fine im wondering if this only happens when the network is more at peak operation im growing very frustrated with this phone might off it and just use the razr maxx or hope for another update.
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I had the same situation just moving from one room to another in my house. Yesterday evening I received a text from my neighbor asking if I had noticed we were receiving a 4g signal in our area (we are in a rural area about 12 miles outside of Tallahassee, FL.). Since yesterday I have a solid 4g in my home area so the no sim problem has disappeared. But there are pockets of weak coverage areas on the way to work in town and at the Florida State University where I work and I continue to find small areas where the problem persists. It has to be the SG3's inability to handle the hand-offs between 3g/4g which produce the no sim problem. My Thunderbolt would handle the switching from 3g/4g much better and not produce the no sim error. I'm sure Samsung could remedy this with a software change (at least not display the no sim) when switching service.
I still have the error on 2 phones. Funny thing is it seems that now it is worse on my wifes phone where it was the other way prior to the update.
From reading this thread and similar threads/topics regarding the sim errors with the GS3, I figured I'd post this here. This is confirmed, my friend and I both have a GS3 bought on the same day at the same VZW store. She keeps getting a sim error while I have never gotten one regardless of coverage or 3G/4G switch frequency, I frequently switch from 4G to 3G when on the subway. She went into the store and requested a new sim card, wound up arguing with the rep, according to him there's no possible way the error could be related, she finally got a new card by calling reps at various levels. After doing a factory reset and reprovisioning the internal SD card with the new sim, she has not yet had a sim error with the newest OTA. So it seems many Verizon sim cards aren't necessarily defective, but are improperly configured with the VZW network. This is just an educated guess based off personal experience, hopefully this is helpful to those with frequent sim errors.
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From reading this thread and similar threads/topics regarding the sim errors with the GS3, I figured I'd post this here. This is confirmed, my friend and I both have a GS3 bought on the same day at the same VZW store. She keeps getting a sim error while I have never gotten one regardless of coverage or 3G/4G switch frequency, I frequently switch from 4G to 3G when on the subway. She went into the store and requested a new sim card, wound up arguing with the rep, according to him there's no possible way the error could be related, she finally got a new card by calling reps at various levels. After doing a factory reset and reprovisioning the internal SD card with the new sim, she has not yet had a sim error with the newest OTA. So it seems many Verizon sim cards aren't necessarily defective, but are improperly configured with the VZW network. This is just an educated guess based off personal experience, hopefully this is helpful to those with frequent sim errors.
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How do you reprovision the internal SD card with the sim? If you are correct, some people may be able to fix the problem by doing so with their existing sim cards.
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How do you reprovision the internal SD card with the sim? If you are correct, some people may be able to fix the problem by doing so with their existing sim cards.
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I would also LOVE to know how to do this!!! Very frustrated with this!! Hopefully reprovisioning the sim finally works!!
After searching around, I found to reprovision, you need to go to stock and dial this in the dialar, *2767*3855#. My question is,
- Is it def not possible to do this from an AOSP rom?
- When they say "go to stock", can I just flash a TW based rom and do it?
reprovisioning does not work, don't waste your time
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reprovisioning does not work, don't waste your time
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Agreed, I have reprovisioned before, to no avail. I thought it might be my SMS client, GO SMS, but I am getting the same NO SIM error with that client that I get with Handcent as well as the stock messaging client.
I called Verizon back today, to note my account that it's still happening, and spoke to them about a replacement phone. (I am already on my second S3 and second SIM) They offered me my choice of Android device, which currently is a bad deal. So I asked them if their deal would hold true once the Note 2 came out, and the nice lady at level 2 support said yes.
So unless this gets fixed prior to the Note 2... a switch is almost inevitable for me.
Dont waste your time doing the reprovision does not work I tried it earlier today.
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Agreed, I have reprovisioned before, to no avail. I thought it might be my SMS client, GO SMS, but I am getting the same NO SIM error with that client that I get with Handcent as well as the stock messaging client.
I called Verizon back today, to note my account that it's still happening, and spoke to them about a replacement phone. (I am already on my second S3 and second SIM) They offered me my choice of Android device, which currently is a bad deal. So I asked them if their deal would hold true once the Note 2 came out, and the nice lady at level 2 support said yes.
So unless this gets fixed prior to the Note 2... a switch is almost inevitable for me.
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Interesting...I might be doing the same thing. This issue is beyond frustrating. However, I have not called Verizon about it yet. Mainly because there doesnt seem to be a fix. I dont want a refurb S3 and there currently isnt a valid replacement. Might try the Note 2 if its possible.
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Interesting...I might be doing the same thing. This issue is beyond frustrating. However, I have not called Verizon about it yet. Mainly because there doesnt seem to be a fix. I dont want a refurb S3 and there currently isnt a valid replacement. Might try the Note 2 if its possible.
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call verizon just so that they can put a note in your account.
vzw put a note on my account and I should be able to just call up and replace my S3 with something new... just have to wait for something good to come out
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call verizon just so that they can put a note in your account.
vzw put a note on my account and I should be able to just call up and replace my S3 with something new... just have to wait for something good to come out
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100% agree with Ripken... call them and have them note it in your account. Basically, I am documenting it once per day (it happens more, but calling more than once per day seems redundant) so they see it, but more importantly, I have some ammunition if I finally move to a new phone. Today's call to 2nd level tech support was a bit frustrating to me, as the nice lady said that, in fact, verizon did get a bad batch of SIM cards. When I pointed out that the bad batch must have been sent all over the country, because it's not a localized issue, and there was a software update addressing it... she didn't have a response. We went thru the same rigamarole with the phone... ie pull the battery, read the number on my SIM, read the numbers from my software build, etc. Again, she offered me any Android phone in exchange, which I turned down. But, at the end, she mentioned she was sending this issue up to a different tier of support that (her words) works with Samsung to fix these issues. I kindly asked her to have them address the headphone jack - bluetooth non-coexisistance, which she giggled at but assured me was working as intended.
So, back to waiting for a fix... or an inevitable new phone.
VRLHD Modem
Ok guys try this at your own risk! I might have found a fix looks like there is another modem floatng around called VRALHD I just flashed it in odin and guess what my phone seems to be working good here at home so try this at your own risk!
Download Link:
http://goo.im/devs/invisiblek/i535/modems
also if you google VRALHD modem galaxy s3 something will come up I cant confirm for sure this will help I will report back after some usage between now and tommorow.
Here it is on rootzwiki
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/34053-of...zon-sgs3-sch-i535-odin-or-recovery-flashable/
Guess I had high hopes for that modem does not fix the issues nevermind lol I am hoping when the jellybean update hits with a new modem this will fix the problem the waiting game begins.
Installed the HD modem last night. I have one area at work that I can test it. I'll report back later with my results.
Update: Flashed the HD radio last night (in CWM touch recovery), install went fine. Didn't have an opportunity to check it out till this afternoon when I put myself in a exact known location where I could reproduce the 3g/4g constant hand-off with the "no sim" notification. Sent out 6 text messages and a couple of phone calls with no problem. Either this new radio did the trick for me or it may be coincidental that Verizon has corrected this "dead" area that would produce this problem without fail everyday I was at work. Couldn't tell you for certain. All I know is that it's not happening anymore at this particular location. I used to have the "no sim" "out of area" notifications constantly at my home until just last week when Verizon finally covered this area with a strong 4g service. Only time will tell as I travel thru areas that have weak coverage. It's very obvious that this problem stems from weak coverage areas and the SG3's inability to handle the transfers effectively.