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I bought international Note 20 ultra with Exynos chip. I am using it here in USA on AT& T network, but it seems like the 5G bands are not compatible with European 5G's networks because I am getting horrible speeds. Even on 4G. I went to AT&T store to see if they can do something, and they upgraded my plan to 5G plan, changed the sim card but that did nothing. Anybody knows if the bands are same for international models and US models? I am ready to sell the device in Europe and buy unlocked US version. What speed are you guys getting? I am lucky to pull 30mbps, in some areas not even that. I live in greater Los Angeles area, so there should be good coverage, right?
I do not believe they are the same
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I bought international Note 20 ultra with Exynos chip. I am using it here in USA on AT& T network, but it seems like the 5G bands are not compatible with European 5G's networks because I am getting horrible speeds. Even on 4G. I went to AT&T store to see if they can do something, and they upgraded my plan to 5G plan, changed the sim card but that did nothing. Anybody knows if the bands are same for international models and US models? I am ready to sell the device in Europe and buy unlocked US version. What speed are you guys getting? I am lucky to pull 30mbps, in some areas not even that. I live in greater Los Angeles area, so there should be good coverage, right?
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I'm curious to know why you imported / purchased the N20 Ultra with Exynos when we in the Uk and other regions are clamouring for the Snapdragon version ?
I was tempted to import a N20 Ultra from Hong Kong but was advised against it due to possible issues with signal and connectivity.
5G bands are totally different. You won't get 5G on ATT
carlitos66 said:
I bought international Note 20 ultra with Exynos chip. I am using it here in USA on AT& T network, but it seems like the 5G bands are not compatible with European 5G's networks because I am getting horrible speeds. Even on 4G. I went to AT&T store to see if they can do something, and they upgraded my plan to 5G plan, changed the sim card but that did nothing. Anybody knows if the bands are same for international models and US models? I am ready to sell the device in Europe and buy unlocked US version. What speed are you guys getting? I am lucky to pull 30mbps, in some areas not even that. I live in greater Los Angeles area, so there should be good coverage, right?
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The Global version does not have ATT's 5G band: https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/US/samsung-galaxy-note-20-ultra
BandOfBrothers1 said:
I'm curious to know why you imported / purchased the N20 Ultra with Exynos when we in the Uk and other regions are clamouring for the Snapdragon version ?
I was tempted to import a N20 Ultra from Hong Kong but was advised against it due to possible issues with signal and connectivity.
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I have spend more than 6 months in Europe last year, so I was thinking it's no big deal to buy in Europe. I also root my phones regularly, which lately is not that necessary, I have to admit.
Hi,
I'm not sure which model to go for to be honest. I'm aware the Hong Kong snapdragon sm-n9860 is better than the sm-n986b or sm-n985F. I'm not a gamer but battery life matters to me. I also need a model with most USA bands for TMobile and to have Volte working. I'm aware band 71 and 66 is not available on the HK version nor is UMTS 3G band 4 - is the latter important ? In the past I'd normally cross reference LTE bands for imported devices. So long as they had LTE bands 2,4 and 12 and maybe 66 they worked for me just fine in central Florida.
So which if any would be advised?
Limeybastard said:
Hi,
I'm not sure which model to go for to be honest. I'm aware the Hong Kong snapdragon sm-n9860 is better than the sm-n986b or sm-n985F. I'm not a gamer but battery life matters to me. I also need a model with most USA bands for TMobile and to have Volte working. I'm aware band 71 and 66 is not available on the HK version nor is UMTS 3G band 4 - is the latter important ? In the past I'd normally cross reference LTE bands for imported devices. So long as they had LTE bands 2,4 and 12 and maybe 66 they worked for me just fine in central Florida.
So which if any would be advised?
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Indonesian version is 4G dual SIM
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I received a Note 20 Ultra (Snapdragon) from a relative residing in the US. I am currently in Malaysia, the Exynos region. If I am not mistaken, the 4G+ here uses a combination of band 3 and 7.
On my note 8 device, using my simcard, my mobile connection would show 4G+ in certain areas and 4G in the outskirts. On the note 20 (Snapdragon) it remains on LTE and never LTE+ / LTE-A.
Would it be possible for me to change my csc from XAA (US) to XME (Malaysia)? If so how?
Or is there a way for me to force the carrier aggregation to occur?
Kasp3r03 said:
I received a Note 20 Ultra (Snapdragon) from a relative residing in the US. I am currently in Malaysia, the Exynos region. If I am not mistaken, the 4G+ here uses a combination of band 3 and 7.
On my note 8 device, using my simcard, my mobile connection would show 4G+ in certain areas and 4G in the outskirts. On the note 20 (Snapdragon) it remains on LTE and never LTE+ / LTE-A.
Would it be possible for me to change my csc from XAA (US) to XME (Malaysia)? If so how?
Or is there a way for me to force the carrier aggregation to occur?
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I don't think you can change CSC from American region to non American. Not sure much can be done to enable CA
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VICosPhi said:
I don't think you can change CSC from American region to non American. Not sure much can be done to enable CA
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Exactly. Same as me using my HK version in the USA. No CA, I can't change csc to any usa devices.
What you could do is compare CA combos for all USA devices and see which one closely matches your region and then take it from there.
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I received a Note 20 Ultra (Snapdragon) from a relative residing in the US. I am currently in Malaysia, the Exynos region. If I am not mistaken, the 4G+ here uses a combination of band 3 and 7.
On my note 8 device, using my simcard, my mobile connection would show 4G+ in certain areas and 4G in the outskirts. On the note 20 (Snapdragon) it remains on LTE and never LTE+ / LTE-A.
Would it be possible for me to change my csc from XAA (US) to XME (Malaysia)? If so how?
Or is there a way for me to force the carrier aggregation to occur?
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I think this hardware doesn't have defined Carrier Aggregation combinations used outside from US. Here is listed some supported Carrier Aggregation combinations here if this is same model what you have: https://cacombos.com/device/SM-G988U . You can contribute to webpage cacombo.com/contribute using scat logging method to provide more logs to complete list so then we know.
I think you can change CSC because Qualcomm vs Exynos - complete different device.
Qualcomm version does not support Band 3 (LTE). Only Exynos version supports it.
Hello, I have the Note 20 Ultra N986B / DS model
I wanted to know if that model is the one sold in my country, Spain.
If it is compatible with all the 2g / 3g / 4g / 5g networks used in Spain because I have little network coverage.
Thanks
It's a global international model so should work. You'd still need to check the phone bands against your carrier though. Never heard of them.
Hey guys
Long time since I've posted on here!
I've just upgraded from my trusty 8GB/512GB Note9 N960F/DS to a 12GB/512GB S22 Ultra S9080/DS (SD) on TGY (from techinthebasket).
The phone is currently on TGY CSC but I'm wondering if anyone knows whether BRI would be better for use in the UK, specifically on O2UK?
I can see 5G is enabled, and there is 5G in my area (my wife can get it on her iPhone 12 Pro on Sky, which is hosted by O2) but I can't seem to pick up 5G on my S22. I know the 9080 only has the N78 band for O2 so maybe that's the issue - if there's only the lower band 5G in my area...
Just wondering if anyone has any experience regarding TGY vs BRI in the UK?
Thanks
p.dixon0 said:
Hey guys
Long time since I've posted on here!
I've just upgraded from my trusty 8GB/512GB Note9 N960F/DS to a 12GB/512GB S22 Ultra S9080/DS (SD) on TGY (from techinthebasket).
The phone is currently on TGY CSC but I'm wondering if anyone knows whether BRI would be better for use in the UK, specifically on O2UK?
I can see 5G is enabled, and there is 5G in my area (my wife can get it on her iPhone 12 Pro on Sky, which is hosted by O2) but I can't seem to pick up 5G on my S22. I know the 9080 only has the N78 band for O2 so maybe that's the issue - if there's only the lower band 5G in my area...
Just wondering if anyone has any experience regarding TGY vs BRI in the UK?
Thanks
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I live in Sweden and the net configuration in Sweden and the UK are all almost the same. The TGY or BRI are the same phone just different SW customization, but you will not notice any difference at all.
The 4G support is very good but not 5G, the 5G band support is limited.
If you want to buy a better model, look for "SM-S908E" model. You can find it from Etoren https://eu.etoren.com/products/sams...ual-sim-sm-s908e-256gb-phantom-white-12gb-ram
I don't recommend BRI (Taiwan) or TGY (Hong Kong) if you want to take advantage of 5G. Also the SM-S908E has e-Sim in addition.
nightoooo said:
I live in Sweden and the net configuration in Sweden and the UK are all almost the same. The TGY or BRI are the same phone just different SW customization, but you will not notice any difference at all.
The 4G support is very good but not 5G, the 5G band support is limited.
If you want to buy a better model, look for "SM-S908E" model. You can find it from Etoren https://eu.etoren.com/products/sams...ual-sim-sm-s908e-256gb-phantom-white-12gb-ram
I don't recommend BRI (Taiwan) or TGY (Hong Kong) if you want to take advantage of 5G. Also the SM-S908E has e-Sim in addition.
p.dixon0 said:
Hey guys
Long time since I've posted on here!
I've just upgraded from my trusty 8GB/512GB Note9 N960F/DS to a 12GB/512GB S22 Ultra S9080/DS (SD) on TGY (from techinthebasket).
The phone is currently on TGY CSC but I'm wondering if anyone knows whether BRI would be better for use in the UK, specifically on O2UK?
I can see 5G is enabled, and there is 5G in my area (my wife can get it on her iPhone 12 Pro on Sky, which is hosted by O2) but I can't seem to pick up 5G on my S22. I know the 9080 only has the N78 band for O2 so maybe that's the issue - if there's only the lower band 5G in my area...
Just wondering if anyone has any experience regarding TGY vs BRI in the UK?
Thanks
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Unfortunately the only option for 5G in the UK is with a Exynos variant. Even though your device reflects 5G is enabled and it has the corresponding 5G Band, it's not going to connect. Snapdragon is a much better choice even though you'll sacrifice 5G and Carrier Aggregation and of the 3 SM-9080 variants Hong Kong TGY is your best option.
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Thanks for your replies guys, I really appreciate it!
Can I ask, Carrier Aggregation, that's 4G+ isn't it? If so, it's getting 4G+ OK - did a few speed tests earlier and was getting 117Mbs download speeds... Does that should about right for CA? (It's faster than I saw with the Note9 on 4G+ on the same network anyway)
p.dixon0 said:
Thanks for your replies guys, I really appreciate it!
Can I ask, Carrier Aggregation, that's 4G+ isn't it? If so, it's getting 4G+ OK - did a few speed tests earlier and was getting 117Mbs download speeds... Does that should about right for CA? (It's faster than I saw with the Note9 on 4G+ on the same network anyway)
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No, Carrier Aggregation is different than 4G+ but if you're getting 117 MBs that's enough for most situations, right? Carrier aggregation is used in LTE-Advanced in order to increase the bandwidth, and thereby increase the bitrate. I can't see rolling the dice on a Exynos variant just to have 5G. And it is a roll of the dice. Samsung's Quality Control is asleep at the wheel.
Something many don't realize, wafer yeild in Samsung's Foundries for the Exynos SoC was a dreadful 30% but it's Snapdragon yeild wasn't much better at 35%. If I were to consider an S22 Ultra it would be after Qualcomm moved it's production to TSMC's Taiwan Foundry in June or July. That will mark Qualcomm's next gen chipset. But even then problems could still nag the device since the marriage between Android 12 and OneUI 4.1 has to date been a messy affair.
I imported a Samsung Galaxy Note²⁰ Ultra from Hong Kong to use on the UK Network.
It was a TGY variant and worked flawlessly.
BandOfBrothers1 said:
I imported a Samsung Galaxy Note²⁰ Ultra from Hong Kong to use on the UK Network.
It was a TGY variant and worked flawlessly.
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I think I read a post from you on the same subject on the Samsung forums before I picked up this phone! That's actually the reason I thought I'd go ahead and get a TGY one!
Hi.
Yes I've discussed this on the Samsung Eu forums too.
Just an update in case anyone is interested - I did a speed test (OOKLA Speedtest) comparison via the browser on both my S9080 TGY (12GB/512GB) showing 4G+ on O2UK and my wife's iPhone 12 Pro showing 5G on Sky (runs on the O2UK network) from the same location last night.
My phone got a maximum of 145.7mbs download on 4G+, her iPhone hit a maximum of 53mbs on 5G in the same location. Of course, they could have been connected to different cell towers etc.
The Hong Kong TGY variant is the closest you'll find to a pure android experience on a Samsung device. Less bloatware, best overall network connectivity with one exception. Samsung should modify it's 5G capabilities so it will work on as many networks as possible. Another improvement would allow system apps to be removed or at least disabled, which will likely never happen. Those two modifications would be a huge step forward.
varcor said:
The Hong Kong TGY variant is the closest you'll find to a pure android experience on a Samsung device. Less bloatware, best overall network connectivity with one exception. Samsung should modify it's 5G capabilities so it will work on as many networks as possible. Another improvement would allow system apps to be removed or at least disabled, which will likely never happen. Those two modifications would be a huge step forward.
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Samsung do this on purpose to cripple devices and stop people from different regions buying the same product. Similarly with their warranties, its only valid and recognized for the country that the device was intended for. A pure anti consumer move by Samsung. Opposite of the evil Apple, whereby their iPhones don't have bands or CA crippled nor do they deny warranty for customers of other regions.
Just a quick update on this, I've just 'upgraded' my O2UK SIM only tariff to the same 150GB deal but told them my device is 5G enabled this time (I was on a Note9 previously). Anyway, tariff change is completed and I now have 5G (Can also see that HD Voice over 4G is active too)