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I am a launch day EVO 4G user and a Sprint subscriber since 1999. With the new EVO 3D 4G coming out, I am at a crossroads. I am miffed not being in a Sprint 4G area while my friends with their Tbolts are rocking it here. Even my sister with her Tmobile MyTouch 4g is getting "4G" here. But, that EVO 3D is beckoning for my technolust.
Those of you with Tbolts and in an official LTE area, how well does the network work when you are moving? How well does the network handle handoffs? Is LTE useable when in a moving car?
Thanks for any input. I am seeking as much input as possible to make a consumer decision. This is not a trolling attempt and I hope no trolls attempt. I just need info.
All of that works amazing for me here in Phoenix. Almost all of the valley is covered in 4g and I get it pretty much anywhere. Works great while moving, handoffs seem to work fine.
In Columbus, OH and it is a LTE market - these days it seems they have worked out most of the kinks. Battery life is horrendous using the 4G radio - if you get the phone and have access to a WiFi AP for most of the day, use that over 4G. I mainly stay in Columbus and the 4G coverage area is rather large, I've not had problems with moving quickly and downloading anything, although I'd wonder what would happen if you wanted to use it as a carpool mobile hotspot, how stable it is in that situation I'm not sure. All and all I'm happy with the phone - and it seems Verizon is over their growing pains in the network.
4G works well when moving. I am able to make Skype Video calls while driving, and the video is clear, but not too smooth (Skype Mobile might be limiting the frame rate to 15fps). There are some data handoff issues when moving from a 4G area to a 3G area, resulting in music streams getting cut off. Most apps, when their data stream is cut off, do not intelligently reconnect, and make you have to restart the stream manually.
Initializing 4G is also not speedy. Driving out of a no-signal zone means waiting a good minute or two, as the phone goes from "no service" to "1x" to "4g". I've noticed that if you get impatient (or are just not paying attention) and invoke a data stream on "1x", the phone will not switch to "4g" until the data stream ends. This delay depends on the phone's hardware, obviously.
Also, your bandwidth varies sharply with location. The difference between New York City (2-4Mbps), Dallas (12-15Mbps), and San Francisco (3-6Mbps) is startling.
Hope this helps you.
Why go for the evo in the first place? 3d gimmick?
The tbolt while being single core runs android very well.
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Nooter said:
bandwidth varies sharply with location. The difference between New York City (2-4Mbps), Dallas (12-15Mbps), and San Francisco (3-6Mbps) is startling.
Hope this helps you.
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I'm not sure where are you pulling your data from for NYC, but look at my signature. Averaging at 25mbps during he peak hours.
Handoffs are the greatest, but overall a very pleasurable experience. I get about 8-12 down and a pretty consistent 2 up in charlotte. If you are in a good lte area, moving is not that bad. I use it to stream tv from my vulkano while moving and never really have a problem. Overall I'm happy. The only thing that I have a real issue with is GPS. Which I just got off the phone with verizon about.
Hmmm, lots of you are getting better speeds than I am seeing.
I get good coverage here in the NW Chicago burbs, but I'm only seeing 5-6 mbps down and 2-3 up. It's fast enough for my uses, but now I'm wondering why I'm not getting faster speeds....
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Hmmm, lots of you are getting better speeds than I am seeing.
I get good coverage here in the NW Chicago burbs, but I'm only seeing 5-6 mbps down and 2-3 up. It's fast enough for my uses, but now I'm wondering why I'm not getting faster speeds....
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I'm on the Northside of Chicago by Wrigley and I usually average around 10-15 mbps all day long.. Maybe because as you said you're in the northwest burbs. When I take the Metra north to Wisconsin I notice the 4G speed diminish until it's all 3G
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Why go for the evo in the first place? 3d gimmick?
The tbolt while being single core runs android very well.
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Dual core snapdragon, rumour has it capable of significant overclocking or better battery life. Better display, higher resolution.And yes, 3D. Hands on reviews indicate cool factor. I am geek.
I would not come over
to "Rule the air" for the Tbolt. I am interested in real 4G, not the faux one Sprint has me paying for that I can't even get. So far, judging from the positive responses, I will
hold off buying the EVO 3D until the V gets its version. Then I will switch networks.
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North of Boston I have 4G and its working great. The comparison between LTE and 3G is incredible.
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Dual core snapdragon, rumour has it capable of significant overclocking or better battery life. Better display, higher resolution.And yes, 3D. Hands on reviews indicate cool factor. I am geek.
I would not come over
to "Rule the air" for the Tbolt. I am interested in real 4G, not the faux one Sprint has me paying for that I can't even get. So far, judging from the positive responses, I will
hold off buying the EVO 3D until the V gets its version. Then I will switch networks.
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Good move. The 4G with Verizon is no joke. Even on the outskirts of Jacksonvilles 4G area I get 10mbs down at least.
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Building penetration with Verizon LTE! I can stream YouTube HD in the crapper at work which is smack center of the building. When I canceled Sprint the other day they wanted me to stand out on the streets to get 4G coverage. Been a Sprint customer for over a decade but no more.
Verizon may drop the unlimited phone data so you may want to grandfather in sooner than later.
3D is a gimmick. I would give priority to LTE, SAMOLED+, dual core, etc. over that.
I live in Charlotte NC & I'll never go back to 3G. The difference is astounding
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North of Boston I have 4G and its working great. The comparison between LTE and 3G is incredible.
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There is no comparison
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Hmmm, lots of you are getting better speeds than I am seeing.
I get good coverage here in the NW Chicago burbs, but I'm only seeing 5-6 mbps down and 2-3 up. It's fast enough for my uses, but now I'm wondering why I'm not getting faster speeds....
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You aren't by any chance running one of the GB leaks are you?
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cant wait to get 4g!
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I'm not sure where are you pulling your data from for NYC, but look at my signature. Averaging at 25mbps during he peak hours.
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That's insane. I'll test again when I'm in NYC next.
I haven't had any handoff issues going from 4G to 4G. In fact, my best speed tests have been while on the freeway at top speed
Im in Staten Island NY and it works great in Brooklyn Staten Island And Manhattan from what i see so far
Hey ive been getting only 60k down like im tethered... Anyone having similar issues?
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Not the same area, but: I was standing outside a T-Mobile store in North Las Vegas and was only getting 3 bars on 2g. haha
Anyhoo. Back on topic. I have gotten really crappy speeds, like you are talking about, when the phone was showing 2-3 bars of 4g.
I have fine reception and speeds here in Bradenton. When I get out east further it will drop 4g and even 3g but the speed always seems consistent with my connection.
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Hey ive been getting only 60k down like im tethered... Anyone having similar issues?
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Any chance you exceeded your data cap? After you reach your cap they throttle your speeds. The new unlimited everything plan gives you 2gigs of unthrottled data access.
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I am in South Florida... supposedly with 4G all over the place (confirmed by on phone and store), but my speeds havent passed 2MB down and 800kb.
Infact there have been times when my down has been 200kb and my up has been 256kb etc....
its ridiculous.... ohh tried bunch of phones and sim cards... same case
Im in south FL specifically palm beach and if you are north of palm beach gardens 4g is spotty at best. go out west and you are lucky to get on edge.
Havent checked my DL speeds but it seems like its better than my N1 at least.
I'm a little north of Orlando and I get about 6MB down and 1MB up at home (close to I-4). Service is a bit inconsistent with this phone. It was more consistent with my G2 (same speeds).
I'm in Tampa and I'm getting 3.5 Mb tops.
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I'm a little north of Orlando and I get about 6MB down and 1MB up at home (close to I-4). Service is a bit inconsistent with this phone. It was more consistent with my G2 (same speeds).
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I'm in the same area and I'm getting about the same speeds.
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It completely depends on where you are. I live in Los Angeles and at home I get speeds that are like yours 300kbps down and up, but I was in Chinatown getting 6000kbps down and 3500kbps up.
I'm in Jacksonville, FL. Average around 8500kbps down and 3000kbps up via Tmobile on the G2X. It goes pathetic as hell once you get throttled though (slightly above 72kbps), 2gb/month just isn't enough.
In Jax, getting 6.2 down and .5 up.
In Miami....
In Miami I have found really great service. I have pretty consistent high speeds mostly where ever I go. Download is normally right around 7 Mbps for me and Upload hovers between 1.5Mbps-2Mbps. Not bad. I hardly notice the difference when web browsing whether I'm on Wifi or cell data connection.
Below is a screenshot of some of my results over the last few days. The last one taken this morning is way off. The tower 2 blocks from my house must have gone down. I typically have full bar reception at home and this morning I have no 4g, only Edge. This has happened before, they will likely have it back up in a matter of hours.
holy shyt! i've been throttled!! i checked online... i cant believe I used it this much... watching southpark at work and downloading music, pandora and stuff. geez tmobile this 5 gb is NOT enough i got another 10 days of this cap! we nee dto find a fix for this, the fix ffor the g2 worked perfectly
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holy shyt! i've been throttled!! i checked online... i cant believe I used it this much... watching southpark at work and downloading music, pandora and stuff. geez tmobile this 5 gb is NOT enough i got another 10 days of this cap! we nee dto find a fix for this, the fix ffor the g2 worked perfectly
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Isnt there already a thread for the throttle cap fix? Im still on the old android plan ( as suggested by the Tmobile rep ) and shouldn't have a cap. Hopefully that works out to be true. so far so good
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holy shyt! i've been throttled!! i checked online... i cant believe I used it this much... watching southpark at work and downloading music, pandora and stuff. geez tmobile this 5 gb is NOT enough i got another 10 days of this cap! we nee dto find a fix for this, the fix ffor the g2 worked perfectly
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Be happy you're at 5gb, they sign up new people ($79 plan) at a default 2gb.
I just wanted to see if its just the service in my area or maybe I'm u using the wrong radio and ril on my phone, but I seem to get god awful dl/ul speeds on my phone even though it claims to be on h+/4g when I run tests or just I use the phone to surf. Guess what I'm asking is what are the speeds you guys/girls are getting, both up and down, in and around the new orleans area? At around 3 or 4 am ill get 3Mb down 1 up. On a daily basis though I see dl speeds of less than 1Mb and 150-250kbps up. speeds
I am down here in Thibodaux and when doing a speed test it is showing a server out of New Orleans. I am pulling download at appox. 2.25Mbps and Upload at appox 1.15Mbps. This is with the upgrade and I am not rooted sitting in my kitchen....I can get a little better when driving around the area...I will be your area later today and will run another.
I have the same issue in Florida. It's ATT imo. The phone has H+ but is running on hsdpa. That's 7.7 mbps 3G. Enhanced backhaul my ass. I contacted ATT corporate and will be waiting for a response.
North Louisiana Shreveport area, same very slow dl/ul running radio 4.11_m2 matching Ril. I agree it's ATT, My wife's new one is the same way.
In New Orleans now and I get about the same as I do in Thibodaux. My phone is not rooted.
its really annoying that they have up paying for 4g service but half the time its edge or a tiny bit better
Well your not actually paying any more for 4G compared to 3G........
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its really annoying that they have up paying for 4g service but half the time its edge or a tiny bit better
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i live in natchitoches and they just turned on 3G after a year of delays and its been going on and off all day with peoples phones, like theirs super spotty coverage but the best speeds i got were 2.2 down and 0.8 up
Bossier City Area
My speeds are very similar to yours...
I get about 1 down at BEST... and I struggle to get that.
I've gotten up speeds of 150-300 the majority of the time but have seen this spike to 1Mb inconsistently with some radios.
I'm on Coredroid. My most consistent results are using the AT&T OTA radio from April 29th.
I am currently with Sprint and I honestly can't take it anymore. Data speeds are terrible and when I'm bored at work and want to play with my phone I can't. I have the EVO 3d right now so naturally I'm going to switch to the sensation.
I have two questions, 1 ) how is tmobiles data service? And 2) once u go over your data limit what speeds do they throttle u down to?
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ok i just got t-mobile last month and i don't mind there service my family has it here they say they don't get a lot of dropped calls as far as data goes i think they are realiable i can't say i get a great speed in my apartment but i also live in a odd 4g coverage spot when I'm not home though the speeds are great. as amatter of fact i put a iphone to shame with the speed the guy thought he was something having one lol. but my speeds and coverage are based off the dell streak 7. hope i was helpful
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I am currently with Sprint and I honestly can't take it anymore. Data speeds are terrible and when I'm bored at work and want to play with my phone I can't. I have the EVO 3d right now so naturally I'm going to switch to the sensation.
I have two questions, 1 ) how is tmobiles data service? And 2) once u go over your data limit what speeds do they throttle u down to?
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Here is my take on it. I was with AT&T Wireless, Cingular, Sprint, and Verizon and now I have switch to T-Mobile. I switched to T-mobile a couple of weeks ago and the coverage isn't 100% great but I honestly think that HSPA+ is better for the phones today. Its not that fast all the time and we all know LTE is amazing but the battery consumptions of these circuits is insane. I owned the Thunderbolt. 45mins of active LTE use and the phone was DEAD. I would rather have slower data speeds and be able to use the device for longer.
What you can expect with Tmobile is at least 1Mbps if you haven't gone over your data allocation. After that you can expect about 300-800kbps. The highest data rate i've seen on tmobile is about 8Mbps. You probably won't have too much less coverage than Sprint but there is far less coverage than Verizon and At&t.
Depending on your coverage - data speeds can be real good (I average 5mbps). Data throttling will depend on the plan you choose.
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Depending on your coverage - data speeds can be real good (I average 5mbps).
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T-Mobile data is usually great in most average to larger sized cities. You should be ok in Indy but find a T-Mobile friend if you can to verify the speeds where you live.
T-Mobile outside of a city or in a super-dense population like NY can be spotty or slow.
I'm in Indianapolis an I always get 4mbps down an 1.2mbps up I just switched from Sprint u will defiantly see a improvement
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I was a sprint customer, in MY AREA Sprint service went down the crapper. Tmo coverage in my area is fantastic, and has been on my recent travels around the country. Sprint->tmo was well worth it for me. Can't speak for ur coverage area tho.
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I just recently switched from Sprint to T-Mobile. With the speedtest.net app I was averaging 300-500 Kbps with Sprint. I'm averaging anywhere from 7-10 Mbps with T-Mobile. The coverage area is great here where I live, and I actually pay less then I was paying with Sprint.
I am in NYC and I have T-mobile for a long time already, recently switch to Sensation 4G and I am getter in average 3mbps download and 1.2 up.
Speeds are great if you are in an area where they have rolled out HSPA+. I get around 7-9 Mbps up and 1-2 Mbps down. If you reach your cap, they throttle you down to EDGE (200-300 Kbps), but some people have said their speeds go even lower than that.
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Speeds are great if you are in an area where they have rolled out HSPA+. I get around 7-9 Mbps up and 1-2 Mbps down. If you reach your cap, they throttle you down to EDGE (200-300 Kbps), but some people have said their speeds go even lower than that.
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I average 5mb down/ 2mb up outside of Washington DC. However, when I am in a sweet spot I have averaged 8/9mb down 2/3mb up. These are great for not being on wifi. HOWEVER, if you are NOT in a tower-rich area you will hate your service. Riding from Virginia to South Carolina recently (on 95 south and 85 south) i maintatined a 2g connection 80% of the time. This severly limited my internet capabilities and download speeds. It was not until I draove through major cities that a strong signal came up. I was very disappointed in this. Results may vary for you though.
When I'm on EDGE Opera Mini makes life so much better. I go from NV to AZ a few times out of the year and I can browse forums, image boards and etc. with no problems due to the image compression. Loads as fast as 3G would.
Sprint's 3G network is really slow, I don't think you will have speed issues if you switch from Sprint to T-Mobile especially with this being a 42Mbps market. I'm not going to say 7-10Mbps is network wide but you should have at least 1Mbps
I am in Tulsa, OK and average 8.5-10.5 mb down and 1.5-2.5 mb up. I went with the 5gb of data and usually finish my billing cycle with 1/2-1 gb to spare.
My wife usually goes over her 5gb, and does get throttled, but its not unbearable. It's edge, but it works for a couple of days a month. She runs a blog and tethers her phone to our laptop or Iconia tablet.
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I switched from Sprint because every time I had any issue at all, it was several hours on the phone trying to get it fixed. Not to mention trying to find someone in a store that could do more than pull a new phone out of a box.
So far I am happy. The high speed data is much better than the old Evo. But the lower 2G leaves something to be desired. I may get throttled in the future, but the next tier is only the cost of the "4G fee" that Sprint charged me for my evo that I tried to use the two times I was in an area that had it and found out it pretty well sucked.
I don't think you'll loose much by leaving Sprint, unless you like the saying "Can I put you on hold?"
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I average 5mb down/ 2mb up outside of Washington DC. However, when I am in a sweet spot I have averaged 8/9mb down 2/3mb up. These are great for not being on wifi. HOWEVER, if you are NOT in a tower-rich area you will hate your service. Riding from Virginia to South Carolina recently (on 95 south and 85 south) i maintatined a 2g connection 80% of the time. This severly limited my internet capabilities and download speeds. It was not until I draove through major cities that a strong signal came up. I was very disappointed in this. Results may vary for you though.
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That's pretty standard with T-Mobile. If you spend all your time in the city, they are great to use. For travelers... not so much.
I left Verizon for T-Mobile about 6 years ago and never looked back. I live in the SF Bay Area and get about 6-8 Mbps down. Not only T-Mobile will unlock you phone for you. I have bin to Thailand and Mexico with my phone and used none T-mobile sim cards. I am not looking forward to the T-mobile AT&T merger. I think the only people that are going to make out in the deal is AT&T customers.
Im with you OP - I was with Sprint (a convert from AT&T iPhone to the EVO 3D) - I loved the phone but for 2 weeks I tried to live with the Data on Sprint and I just couldnt do it. I have been with Tmobile for 2 weeks and have had NO data issues and I do in fact get a data signal where my Sprint service got nothing (At the Hockey Rink / Etc). I have tested Edge (2G) speeds and they are still faster than what I was pulling from Sprint - So I was happy and so is my wife. I hated to drop the 3D phone, but I needed reliable Data.
Make sure you tell Sprint why you are leaving (if you do) - They argued with me that data is fine and I showed them speed tests on 3 of their phones at 120-175k (one was 1.5Mb, as they stated, but I showed them Wifi was on!!! - Disabled it and down the tubes it went). I then showed my Sensation to them and I was pulling 6Mb (around 6000k down and 2000k up) - They said, "Well, yeah, your bill will be higher" - I pay $5 less and I am on the 5GB plan - and I showed them Edge speeds with the 4G Disabled, where I would get unlimited, and they had no more comments.
Sprint sales people are great, I had no issues with them - but They need a HUGE upgrade to stay in this business.
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I am currently with Sprint and I honestly can't take it anymore. Data speeds are terrible and when I'm bored at work and want to play with my phone I can't. I have the EVO 3d right now so naturally I'm going to switch to the sensation.
I have two questions, 1 ) how is T-Mobiles data service? And 2) once u go over your data limit what speeds do they throttle u down to?
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Well for me in Indiana coverage is average with the other two big dogs. Sprint just flat out sucks. I switched from sprint to tmo and never looked back. Sim card based phone service. Better data speeds. More 3g and 4g towers by far.
As for Speed after data cap you go to 2g speed after you hit the cap. Which is way better then being totally cut off or paying overage. plus if Att and Tmo merger goes through the next gen devices will have an amazing coverage because the two network will eventually become one.
I'm down in Atlanta and been with tmo for many moons...I got the g2x and I will honestly say at times the network really bumps and hauls ass. There isn't many times ItS slow....
I usually use around 4-5 gb of data. N the one month I used 6.7gb they said I would b throttled but never was for the remaining week of the cycle..
But with.tmo it all depends on ur area..do ur research if it's not too late.
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I am currently with Sprint and I honestly can't take it anymore. Data speeds are terrible and when I'm bored at work and want to play with my phone I can't. I have the EVO 3d right now so naturally I'm going to switch to the sensation.
I have two questions, 1 ) how is tmobiles data service? And 2) once u go over your data limit what speeds do they throttle u down to?
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(1) Honestly tmobile coverage isn't the best. When you get coverage, it's very good (it's pretty good in Chicago). Your best bet is see if you have any co-worker at your workplace who uses tmobile and test.
(2) Edge speed. I signed up for 2GB. My normal usage is around 1GB (slightly below, my workplace has good wifi and I use wifi most of the time), and get close to 2GB if I use tethering a lot that month. 5GB is $10/month more expensive. Sign up for 2GB and pay $10 to switch to 5GB if you run over, and switch back to 2GB next month.
with sprint now and getting so tired of the lousy network...at home i have 4G, if thats wat you wanna call it, but away from home, 90% of my day, i have slowG... speeds of .3 - .5 kbs...
i do like the unlimited data though, and i typically use alot. i went from the Evo to the Nexus S4G just waiting for the SGSII but am not convinced on my carrier anymore..
so how is Tmob ? how are the speeds ? network ? prices and data ? yes i can read the pages from there own website...i have...i wanna know the ins and outs of ppl who have been with them awhile before i switch...
ty for your help
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with sprint now and getting so tired of the lousy network...at home i have 4G, if thats wat you wanna call it, but away from home, 90% of my day, i have slowG... speeds of .3 - .5 kbs...
i do like the unlimited data though, and i typically use alot. i went from the Evo to the Nexus S4G just waiting for the SGSII but am not convinced on my carrier anymore..
so how is Tmob ? how are the speeds ? network ? prices and data ? yes i can read the pages from there own website...i have...i wanna know the ins and outs of ppl who have been with them awhile before i switch...
ty for your help
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Yeah man, I was using a friends Evo 4G the other day and was amazed at how slow the 3G speeds are. She said it was normal (~150kbit down in downtown Sacramento). The deal killer for me would be that she has to activate another radio to get 4G (if in a 4G area) which significantly impacts battery life. For reference, I live in the foothills of Northern California and I only get 3G (UMTS/HSDPA) at home. At home I get 500-700kbit down and 700-1000kbit up. If I go a couple miles toward the freeway, I start picking up 4G (HSPA+) and get 1.0-1.5mbit down and 1.5-2.0mbit up. As I get closer to Folsom and Sacramento my speeds continue to rise. In downtown Sacramento (where I spend most of my time) I get 4-7mbit down and 6-8mbit up. I'm very happy with my speeds and my 3G and "4G" are done with the same radio (HSPA+ is just a speed upgrade of HSDPA and uses the same radio tech) so getting 4G speeds has no noticable impact on battery life. I know T-Mobile's network footprint is the smallest of the big 4, but it works everywhere that I've ever needed it to work. As for data plans, just make sure you get one with 5gb of full speed data. Sidenote, I thought Sprint's data is only unlimited on 4G? In terms of pricing, I've found that once I add on everything I want/need all the carriers end up about the same +/-10% so I haven't concerned myself with that too much.
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I'm in NYC, speeds about 4-7M down, 2M up. No complaints really.
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I'm in norcal, my tmo is much better than sprint IN MY AREA. It varies greatly based on location. I loved my EVO(network was great when I first started using it), but it was like a ferrari with no gas there at the end. I travel very frequently with my job, both in and out of the country, and I haven't had a problem yet anywhere in the US. Don't spend enough time in one place to get foreign sims, plus WiFi is almost everywhere now.