Database Info

Shocking Issues

Has anyone else had issues with their touch pro shocking their hands when using it while charging?
Every once in a while the phone will suddenly start emitting a very strong 'tingle'. Kind of feels like a dog shock collar (don't pretend you haven't tried that...). It has startled me enough to drop it a few times. Luckily I don't tend to have it too far from the ground while it is plugged in.
Anyone else encounter this issue?

no, you should probably get a replacement unit, and never use a pun again

Yeah, that sounds like a serious problem. I'd take it back right away and/or contact htc support. I wouldn't use the charger in the interim. You don't want to burn down the house. Knock on wood...

New undocumented security feature?
Take my phone.. I dare you.
No, really, you should exchange that phone

I've experience quite a bit of static shock with the phone. On the HTC Fuze the top half is encircled by this metal/chrome bezel. With dry winter air and walking around on carpet, I've zapped myself/phone a few times. Hopefully, there's no damage to any of the electronic components.

Are u sure its not in vibration mode? That produces a "tingle" as well.

vexingv said:
I've experience quite a bit of static shock with the phone. On the HTC Fuze the top half is encircled by this metal/chrome bezel. With dry winter air and walking around on carpet, I've zapped myself/phone a few times. Hopefully, there's no damage to any of the electronic components.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Same here. I notice it more than with my last phone but it's not an alarmingly bad shock, and definitely no constant tingle. The shock is coming from me to the phone and not the other way around.

Waterproofness....

Anyone dared to submerge their lovely new shiny phone in water yet?
Edit: Could mods move this to General/discussion please, my bad.

I did, I dropped it in the tub. Only for a couple of seconds though. Running fine no issues.
I am coming from a mate 9 the only thing I see different is the sim card tray has a big rubber seal on it. I guess if they added the same seal on the mate 9 it could qualify for IP68+. I did drop coffee on the mate 9 and the sim tray became almost glued but it kept on humming until I tried to remove it today. It came out but half the sim card seems to have Melted inside the phone.

Good to know, i'm still dubious of any device that has charging port, headphone jack, speaker, microphone and no visible covers.........and being a fisherman it's a bonus knowing that a dip in the lake would still leave the phone working.

For your entertainment!
https://youtu.be/OwqFGSqOMaI
Sent from my SM-G955F using Tapatalk

crankshaft said:
For your entertainment!
https://youtu.be/OwqFGSqOMaI
Sent from my SM-G955F using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Did you do that? Kudos my friend.

craftycarper1 said:
Did you do that? Kudos my friend.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
For sure!
Here's another!
https://youtu.be/gcta3h5dA2M
Sent from my SM-G955F using Tapatalk

havent yet with my new phone but my s7e has seen the water many times even recorded underwater

Took the plunge and tried it myself..........won't be trying it again as it just doesn't feel right submerging the phone!!
https://youtu.be/_aXNcS0gajI

I wouldn't make it a habit of purposely using the phone underwater.
Yes, it can take it.
Should you do it, on purpose? Not really.
Just as you don't test a fire extinguisher or even an airbag, it's reassurance in case of accident that your device won't be rendered inoperable.
Water still gets in things even though it doesn't get inside. The headphone jack has internal contacts and these will get contaminated with mineral deposits left behind from being exposed to water. Sea water is far worse as the salt residue that's left behind is highly hygroscopic (meaning it absorbs moisture) so every time the device is in a humid environment those surfaces become wet to the touch and that wetness is both highly corrosive AND conductive. This is why any gear, no matter what its waterproofness rating is, must be rinsed with *fresh* water after use in marine environments.
In short, your device continues to operate but make no mistake about it, you're reducing its useful lifespan with repeated dunks and swims.

I don't intend on giving mine any more dips.....and wouldn't dream of putting it in salt water...........but curiosity got the better of me when i went to the lake to see a couple of mates fishing

same if not better then the s7 edge.
I wash off my s7 edge before because i was working a car and grab te phone and it got dirty.
Also install water screen protector on my s7e , note 7 and s8+ all work fine.

cpufrost said:
I wouldn't make it a habit of purposely using the phone underwater.
Yes, it can take it.
Should you do it, on purpose? Not really.
Just as you don't test a fire extinguisher or even an airbag, it's reassurance in case of accident that your device won't be rendered inoperable.
Water still gets in things even though it doesn't get inside. The headphone jack has internal contacts and these will get contaminated with mineral deposits left behind from being exposed to water. Sea water is far worse as the salt residue that's left behind is highly hygroscopic (meaning it absorbs moisture) so every time the device is in a humid environment those surfaces become wet to the touch and that wetness is both highly corrosive AND conductive. This is why any gear, no matter what its waterproofness rating is, must be rinsed with *fresh* water after use in marine environments.
In short, your device continues to operate but make no mistake about it, you're reducing its useful lifespan with repeated dunks and swims.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
A sensible reply. Ever since the Sony Xperia Z was released I have been debating (arguing like crazy) with peers that these mobiles are NOT waterproof, they have the smallest amount of water resistance. If one reads the manual, and very VERY few owners do, they will realise this water resistance is more of a 'splash resistance' in reality.
Sure Sony had adverts with people making calls while standing in a swimming pool etc BUT soon realised their marketing mistakes. Swimming pool chemicals destroy the protective membranes and cause no end of other problems. I wished all manufactures would simply refer to the mobile as splash resistant.
I have written pages on this very subject. Even though Samsung write that the mobile may be submerged in water to a depth of 1.5M for 30 minutes this is so woefully subjective. Even at surface level immersion in water if you swish the mobile about the force of water induced by movement can and will penetrate the mobiles membranes, its simple lores of science. Sure if one very gently and slowly submerges the mobile to 1.5M for a short period in theory all should be well. WHO is going to do that and why would they?
The IP rating is in reality just saying one can answer the phone with wet hands and make a call in the rain. The mobile device is very VERY far from an underwater camera that is designed for that purpose.
To close, its not truly about depth of water and time but water pressure FWIW. Soap box awayyyyyy:laugh:
Ryland

Ryland Johnson said:
.
To close, its not truly about depth of water and time but water pressure FWIW. Soap box awayyyyyy:laugh:
Ryland
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Is water pressure not down to the depth of water?

Depth pressure is a static reading.
If you toss the phone into a pool that's 1 meter deep the actual realized pressure, albeit brief, is going to be much higher.
This is why you cannot snorkel with a wristwatch rated at 50 meters. The deeper you want to go the more evident this becomes.
Ryland brings up this point that I left out but is painfully obvious to those familiar with it.
Showering with a device is much different than wearing it on your wrist or hip and walking around even if only submersed under a foot or two of water.
I've seen rainproof electrical enclosures fail and upon inspection find them full of water as if their covers were off during the storm. This happens because heavy rain with no wind and heavy rain with 100mph wind gusts are completely different things. They do make such enclosures that are designed for these conditions and they are much more expensive.
If you really want to play with your devices around the pool including dunking and shooting video underwater, invest in a waterproof case. And even then a few drops of water inside the case won't affect your device. Protection is always better in layers.

Just copied this from W'Pedia. I use watches as an example of how the general public are fooled into believing what is written on the back of ones daily watch, vis:..... Quote........
"Water resistance classification[edit]
Watches are often classified by watch manufacturers by their degree of water resistance which, due to the absence of official classification standards, roughly translates to the following (1 metre ≈ 3.29 feet). These vagueries have since been superseded by ISO 22810:2010, in which "any watch on the market sold as water-resistant must satisfy ISO 22810 – regardless of the brand." [5]
Water resistance rating Suitability Remarks
Water Resistant 3 atm or 30 m Suitable for everyday use. Splash/rain resistant. Not suitable for showering, bathing, swimming, snorkelling, water related work and fishing. Not suitable for diving.
Water Resistant 5 atm or 50 m Suitable for swimming, white water rafting, non-snorkeling water related work, and fishing. Not suitable for diving.
Water Resistant 10 atm or 100 m Suitable for recreational surfing, swimming, snorkeling, sailing and water sports. Not suitable for diving.
Water Resistant 20 atm or 200 m Suitable for professional marine activity, serious surface water sports and skin diving. Suitable for skin diving.
Diver's 100 m Minimum ISO standard (ISO 6425) for scuba diving at depths not suitable for saturation diving. Diver's 100 m and 150 m watches are generally old(er) watches.
Diver's 200 m or 300 m Suitable for scuba diving at depths not suitable for saturation diving. Typical ratings for contemporary diver's watches.
Diver's 300+ m for mixed-gas diving Suitable for saturation diving (helium enriched environment). Watches designed for mixed-gas diving will have the DIVER'S WATCH xxx M FOR MIXED-GAS DIVING additional marking to point this out." End quote.
As you can see a wrist watch rated at 30M is ONLY splash-rain proof!!!!!! Though I am not a horologist some of my family have been for generations and the topic of water resistance is very close to my heart after ruing a VERY expensive watch some many years ago in the shower?!
Ryland

I keep phones on average 3 months. I'm a serial upgrader. Ever since my s6 I've been habitually swimming with my phone's. Never had a issue other than maybe for 24 hours the speaker is miffeled....Now if you plan on actually keeping the phone for longer than the blink of an eye then if baby it. But I jump on demand waaaaaay too often.

craftycarper1 said:
Is water pressure not down to the depth of water?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes BUT. Its an awful lot more complex than that. There is static water pressure ie 1ATM per 10.33M of depth. Remember the surface is already measured at 1ATM . Add force of movement and those figures can go through the roof.
Fill your bath with water and allow your mobile to slowly sink to the bottom, generally no problem BUT if you hold the mobile in your hand and force it through the water even at 1" depth the force becomes another dimension of added pressure.
Our kids splash us with a garden hose and we all laugh. Get hit by a professional fire hose and it will take you for a ride down the street. Yet another example of water pressure.
The above poster says he regularly swims with his mobile. He adds he changes them every three months. Not only will the constant exposure to swimming pool chemicals degenerate the membranes on the mobile but one fine day he will be very surprised to find he has one screwed mobile.
Its a 1k€ device. I respect it for what it is. I also change phones at least 3-4 times a year but when I sell them they are brand new and have not been subjected to misuse. :highfive:
Ryland

Anyone get their Pixel 2 wet often ?

Now that the Pixel 2 is water resistant, does anyone get their phone wet or in water often ? I recently took mine hiking which was perfect for the camera, and after the trip it was dusty and oily from use. I took the phone and turned it off and submerged it in warm water and washed it for a few minutes and let it dry. Now it is clean and good to go no problems. I generally don't get my phone wet often, but I'll probably start washing it after trips like these.

Just be careful you don't make the water too warm, and absolutely don't use soap. This sort of waterproofing takes advantage of surface tension, and either of those two things can defeat it and let water seep in.

mikeprius said:
Now that the Pixel 2 is water resistant, does anyone get their phone wet or in water often ? I recently took mine hiking which was perfect for the camera, and after the trip it was dusty and oily from use. I took the phone and turned it off and submerged it in warm water and washed it for a few minutes and let it dry. Now it is clean and good to go no problems. I generally don't get my phone wet often, but I'll probably start washing it after trips like these.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I only have one thing to say. You're either braver or crazier than i am. I haven't yet figured out which one it is though.

Just when I turn it on ? But seriously, I feel like I can help you out here. Since I'm an auto detailer for a living I can tell you that water does not clean oil at all. And it's highly unadvisable to get your pixel that wet on purpose. I recommend a high quality microfiber towel and a spritz or two of rinceless wash on the towel. I use Carpro EcH2O but any rinceless wash will do. Nice thing about Carpro EcH2O is that there is ceramic coating properties within it so you're adding a bit of ceramic protection to the screen and enclosure of the phone. This not only adds a protective barrier but also keeps it cleaner and easier to clean in the even it does get dirty. That product must be diluted and will last you a lifetime and you can use it on your car as well. But in a pinch I would use Isopropanol Alcohol on a microfiber and that will do just as good of a job cleaning it up without getting the phone wet. Hope this helps you.

I saw a YouTube video of a guy who took his pixel 2 into the pool and even though it survived, the speaker output was drastically reduced, even after it dried. I wouldn't intentionally submerge any device. The water proofing is for emergency only.

I wash my Pixel 2 phone occasionally. I had an S7 Edge that I washed all the time and used for underwater photography. I've only submerged my Pixel 2 for photos once or twice, and so far so good.
One warning though, your USB cable isn't waterproof. I toasted a couple USB cords with a wet USB port before I realized what was going on. Consider covering up the USB port when you're getting your phone wet, and make sure it's dry before you charge it.
Almost every time both phones got submerged, the speaker was weird for a few hours. Once it dried out it was fine.
But you know, YMMV.
---------- Post added at 12:12 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:10 AM ----------
Oh also, remember that fast moving water can push it's way into the waterproofing a lot faster than water pressure alone. I always try to avoid water coming straight out of the faucet into a hole or seam.

Left my oneplus 7 pro in car while it was 30 degrees celcius outside

Hello everybody,
Today it was about 30 degrees Celsius outside. I went swimming with some friends but I left my phone in the car. I wrapped it in a small towel and put it in the side doors little pocket, so im pretty sure it was in the shade.
My car is a white GT86
I was wondering if the heat could have damaged anything to my phone
Thanks in advance!

WaterSSSS said:
Hello everybody,
Today it was about 30 degrees Celsius outside. I went swimming with some friends but I left my phone in the car. I wrapped it in a small towel and put it in the side doors little pocket, so im pretty sure it was in the shade.
My car is a white GT86
I was wondering if the heat could have damaged anything to my phone
Thanks in advance!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I would think the part that would be affected most would be the battery which should have an optimal range up to 40C and can withstand temperatures higher than that when not in use. I would say cool it down prior to powering it up, but I am not a Li-ion battery expert.....

Honestly, only you could figure it, if it works well its good. I would be more concerned with temperature above 38 degrees which may feel above 40 in a closed parking car.

WaterSSSS said:
Hello everybody,
Today it was about 30 degrees Celsius outside. I went swimming with some friends but I left my phone in the car. I wrapped it in a small towel and put it in the side doors little pocket, so im pretty sure it was in the shade.
My car is a white GT86
I was wondering if the heat could have damaged anything to my phone
Thanks in advance!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You shouldn't need to worry as long as it wasn't direct sunlight. Direct sunlight can damage your screen (maybe).

Thanks for the input y'all!

Well when gaming and such your phone inside gets a lot hotter than what inside of a car would get.

equlizer said:
Well when gaming and such your phone inside gets a lot hotter than what inside of a car would get.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I had the same thought.
30c isn't even that hot. Given, the inside of a car will get much hotter than the air temperature. But exactly how hot, depends on how sunny it is, whether the car was parked in the shade, windows cracked open, etc. But even if the inside of the car gets to 40c or more, I still wouldn't be that worried. There are places in the world that get to be 38C or more on a daily basis, after all.

WaterSSSS said:
My car is a white GT86
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Good choice! I have a red GT86 :highfive:

PeteT said:
Good choice! I have a red GT86 :highfive:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's really cool!
I love the GT86 such a fun car

If really concerned, then put it on the top shelf of a beer cooler! ??

I have used the phone quite a lot in ~45° C, here in the Indian capital and it has not affected the phone performance in any way.

Pixel 3a, how much effect can water have on this device?

I am trying to decide on making the switch from iPhone to the Pixel 3a. All of my devices have been waterproof, but the 3a isn’t.....so I’m wondering how much of an effect would rain or even a few drops of water while at the beach would have on the 3a?
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

4rpr said:
I am trying to decide on making the switch from iPhone to the Pixel 3a. All of my devices have been waterproof, but the 3a isn’t.....so I’m wondering how much of an effect would rain or even a few drops of water while at the beach would have on the 3a?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've used it many times in mild rain but haven't ever dipped into water.
So if you are talking about that, it'll be good.

i doubt drops of water hurt. i have a skinomi screen protector which was a wet application and they give you small tube of soapy water with a spray nozzle to wet the screen. i spray the soapy water on the protector to clean it. seems to me the only problem would be an excessive amount of water entering the headphone jack. like if it was dropped into water and went under water..

mine fell into a puddle once and was submerged for about 5 - 10 seconds. It was fine after.

I dropped my first one into a toilet full of water (after it had been flushed). Grabbed it out and turned it off w/in 15sec.
Left it off and tried it 2 days later. Screen probs (multiple phantom touches a second).
Ended up buying a new one and leaving that one in a drawer. Actually just tried it again for the first time since then (maybe 3/4 months) and it's totally dead. No lights when plugged in to charge - no response otherwise.
So yea - be careful w/ water. At least it's relatively inexpensive to replace.

My GF left hers in her pants and I did laundry. She asked where her phone was as the washer was filling up. I don't know how much water got in it by the time I pulled it out, but it was DOA and had some water pour out of the charging port and speaker grill. Insurance replacement through Fi wasn't too bad. $50 no questions asked. Pretty much told them. "Water damage, it's dead, Jim."
Normal things like rain are fine, but if water gets in the charging port or bottom speaker grill, kiss it goodbye.