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I don't think that this newest update was thought through...

Look at the navigation bar in the screenshot attached to this post, the application UI is black, the status bar is black, and the most common color is black. Ignoring all of this, the navigation bar is still white, and this will ironically burn the navigation bar in if you use the application too often.
Why can't the color just automatically match the status bar? It's kind of dumb to always have it as white, in applications with a black UI it looks ugly and ironically burns in. Doing the exact opposite of what the update was made to fix. There is also no way to change this, it's impossible to have any other color than something very light. This isn't a problem for me, because I always hide the bar in use (looks great), but for someone who doesn't want to do it, this will be a huge issue and annoyance.

My thoughs exactly. I have a lot of black apps and themes which frankly now look ridiculous. It is actually off putting having a huge white bar at the bottom when everything else is black or dark (and no, before some smart arse decides to say it, hiding it is NOT the solution).
I have also noticed in pretty much every app I have used that I now have this stupid bar pop up just above the nav bar which says press here to go full screen (which doesn;t actually go full screen anyway, all it does is get rid of the empty gap caused by this message in the first place). I mean WTF? I never had that showing up before and never had any issues before either.

galaxyYtester said:
Look at the navigation bar in the screenshot attached to this post, the application UI is black, the status bar is black, and the most common color is black. Ignoring all of this, the navigation bar is still white, and this will ironically burn the navigation bar in if you use the application too often.
Why can't the color just automatically match the status bar? It's kind of dumb to always have it as white, in applications with a black UI it looks ugly and ironically burns in. Doing the exact opposite of what the update was made to fix. There is also no way to change this, it's impossible to have any other color than something very light. This isn't a problem for me, because I always hide the bar in use (looks great), but for someone who doesn't want to do it, this will be a huge issue and annoyance.
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A "huge" issue is a bit of an overstatement in my opinion. Samsung has done this on purpose to make sure that the pixels that are turned off when the nav bar is black don't burn in slower than all the other pixels on the screen, which would create an even uglier sight if that happens.

MindlessNevada said:
A "huge" issue is a bit of an overstatement in my opinion. Samsung has done this on purpose to make sure that the pixels that are turned off when the nav bar is black don't burn in slower than all the other pixels on the screen, which would create an even uglier sight if that happens.
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But now the navigation bar will burn in faster than the rest of the screen, it is still a huge issue... The issue is still not solved, and it looks even uglier than before. A black navigation bar on a white themed app looks good, because it blends to the black bezel, and doesn't attract attention from the content of the app due to being practically invisible (only the icons to navigate are visible).
White catches the eye, and a white navigation bar on a black app is very distracting from the content you're trying to see. It also breaks the immersion of similar colors being displayed on the entire screen, a uniformity of darkness across the screen looks good, but not, if there is a white bar in the bottom breaking the immersion.
It's beyond me why Samsung hasn't made the navigation bar sync colors with the status bar. The goal to avoid burn-ins is to have a similar brightness / color on the whole display, to avoid differences that add up to burning in over time. The status bar shifts color based on application, this is why it doesn't burn in. It's white on white applications, and black on black applications. Copying this color for the navigation bar would be the perfect fix for burn-ins, but instead Samsung turned the bar bright white under ANY conditions.

ewokuk said:
My thoughs exactly. I have a lot of black apps and themes which frankly now look ridiculous. It is actually off putting having a huge white bar at the bottom when everything else is black or dark (and no, before some smart arse decides to say it, hiding it is NOT the solution).
I have also noticed in pretty much every app I have used that I now have this stupid bar pop up just above the nav bar which says press here to go full screen (which doesn;t actually go full screen anyway, all it does is get rid of the empty gap caused by this message in the first place). I mean WTF? I never had that showing up before and never had any issues before either.
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Here's a fix if you don't mind themes.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/themes/theme-dark-default-t3597615

ggrant3876 said:
Here's a fix if you don't mind themes.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/themes/theme-dark-default-t3597615
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What if I want to keep the default stock look? It's not a proper solution to change the entire device's theme to be black, just to have a black navigation bar. This also brings back the burn-in issue on light themed apps, the navigation bar being black will burn in slower than the rest of the screen.

Nvm

Totally agree. Not only this but the whole software seems like it is not there yet.

I have actually disabled automatic updates on my S8+ both in normal settings and under developer settings after hearing about this update. Shouldn't that be enough? Or can I prevent the update entirely somehow without root?

leeswagger said:
I have actually disabled automatic updates on my S8+ both in normal settings and under developer settings after hearing about this update. Shouldn't that be enough? Or can I prevent the update entirely somehow without root?
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If you want to completely stop system updates, you can do that with a package disabler. There are paid ones that have tons of features like data clearing, but those aren't needed in this case. The Adhell ad blocker has a package disabler built in to it, you can download the Adhell app from here if you want: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.getadhell.androidapp
After downloading and opening the application, it prompts you to give it permissions to enable the Knox service, used for blocking ads and disabling packages (no root needed). After this is done, tap the middle option in the bottom, that says "Package disabler". A list of applications appears, you can just scroll down to find the system update application, and flip the switch on the right to disable it. After this you won't get notifications of system updates anymore, because the application used for them is technically uninstalled. It still is there, but it's not in use anymore.

galaxyYtester said:
If you want to completely stop system updates, you can do that with a package disabler. There are paid ones that have tons of features like data clearing, but those aren't needed in this case. The Adhell ad blocker has a package disabler built in to it, you can download the Adhell app from here if you want: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.getadhell.androidapp
After downloading and opening the application, it prompts you to give it permissions to enable the Knox service, used for blocking ads and disabling packages (no root needed). After this is done, tap the middle option in the bottom, that says "Package disabler". A list of applications appears, you can just scroll down to find the system update application, and flip the switch on the right to disable it. After this you won't get notifications of system updates anymore, because the application used for them is technically uninstalled. It still is there, but it's not in use anymore.
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Ohh, I actually have booth Adhell and Package Disabler (The individual app) I will disable that thanks!

Full Screen Or Hide Notch

What setting do you guys prefer? Notch or notch hidden? I have mine full screen with notch it doesn't bother me and I think it looks pretty nice

Full screen with notch shown. Hidden just looks ugly imo

NateDev said:
Full screen with notch shown. Hidden just looks ugly imo
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Ya I think it looks better with the notch as well I don't mind it without tho it still looks clean

Hiding the notch borks some things like Android Auto. I got used to it very quickly and prefer the full screen.

I have it full screen as well. Also I use Nova launcher and I use the gesture swipe up to toggle/hide the status bar. That also hides the notch on the fly but also hide all the status bar info unless you pull down. Just thought that was an interesting way to hide show the notch on the fly.

I also have full screen with notch. I thought it would bother me but it doesn't.

With notch, like most others, it didn't bother me as much as I thought it would and actually looks nicer than the entire top blacked out.

TechOut said:
What setting do you guys prefer? Notch or notch hidden? I have mine full screen with notch it doesn't bother me and I think it looks pretty nice
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Some of us OnePlus 6 users, who connect to infotainment systems, for Android Auto, have discovered we don't have a choice. If the notch is hidden, the car's touch screen doesn't respond. The image displayed might not even fit.
It's great to have a choice. But, without an update from OnePlus, some of us are finding there's no option.
Before my own hand was forced, I hadn't made up my mind as to which I preferred.
And Nova Launcher provides some extraordinarily useful settings, for making the most of a navigation-button-free landscape, on this device's screen.

Can't believe I'm the only one so far hiding the notch! Not that I hate it or anything, I just think it looks better hidden. It helps balance it with the chin.

I've been switching back and forth...kinda like them both actually...but I mostly leave the notch

Hello, guys!
What does everyone mean by hiding the notch? Just making it black or disabling the notch area completely? Is there any ROM with the ability to turn off the notch area and move notifications beneath the notch so that I could have just a normal status bar with a long row of icons?

vigilante7373 said:
What does everyone mean by hiding the notch? Just making it black or disabling the notch area completely?
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By default, "hiding" the notch, simply turns it to black background. That never made sense to me, so I just left it as is. I'm also interested in an option the move the status bar below the notch, so I can see more notifications.

Black status bar in my op6 - so ntoch hidden. Not bother me at all and there is enough space for icons, and more space on display itself.
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I'd also like this option.

I really don't mind the notch at all. If anything I wish most apps would allow me to fill it totally when in immersive mode instead of blacking it out. Many apps don't use the space.

How to fix captions? Never worked right since Oxygen OS first debuted..

As title says, captions for oneplus devices and OOS (not sure if this carries out to non-oos roms) have never worked right. The captions don't take outline styles and colors; so they're extremely useless unless you have that ugly black box enabled and covering a portion of the video.. The outline effect only works with high contrast mode on; on other devices I don't need that enabled, nor do I want it enabled due to what it does to all text..

Is there a way to force status bar icons to the right?

After days of searching for a way to force proper full screen mode WITHOUT the thick black bar I finally found one. However, it puts all notification/status icons already on the left under the camera. I'm so close to a perfect solution but this one thing is in my way.
Ideally I'd like to move all icons right but messing with the padding might be a good plan B.
Please help. It's driving me mental.

If you are referring to any notification icon and/or the clock, there really isn't any way to move those without doing a bunch of work on a rooted device creating your own theme basically. Also what thick black bar are you talking about for fullscreen? the bars are only present if whatever is being displayed isn't a 20:9 ratio. so any 16:9 (like most 1080p) media will get the bars. but everything else should be full screen by ensuring Setting>Display>Advanced>Front camera display area is on the right setting.

tambukey said:
If you are referring to any notification icon and/or the clock, there really isn't any way to move those without doing a bunch of work on a rooted device creating your own theme basically. Also what thick black bar are you talking about for fullscreen? the bars are only present if whatever is being displayed isn't a 20:9 ratio. so any 16:9 (like most 1080p) media will get the bars. but everything else should be full screen by ensuring Setting>Display>Advanced>Front camera display area is on the right setting.
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That's disappointing.
I have managed to move the clock to the right with edXposed via Gravitybox. It's just notifications now. Don't suppose you'd know if it's possible to disable the icons but still have notifications for those apps show up in the notification drop-down?
And that camera display area, when enabled, is the black bar I'm talking about. It's unsightly and a waste of space. Using the mod I found, all apps but Ookla Speed Test fill the ENTIRE to screen beautifully with no essential UI elements blocked by the camera. Landscape or portrait.

shadowofdeth said:
That's disappointing.
I have managed to move the clock to the right with edXposed via Gravitybox. It's just notifications now. Don't suppose you'd know if it's possible to disable the icons but still have notifications for those apps show up in the notification drop-down?
And that camera display area, when enabled, is the black bar I'm talking about. It's unsightly and a waste of space. Using the mod I found, all apps but Ookla Speed Test fill the ENTIRE to screen beautifully with no essential UI elements blocked by the camera. Landscape or portrait.
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Only thing I can think of for the notifications is make them all "Other" instead of important. you would have to do that per app and per notification type that each app shows. Long clicking them in the drop down gives you the option to change it there. But that also means you need to enable "important and other notifications" on lock screen if you want them to show up there.; however, I can't find a way to allow "other" notifications to display on the Ambient display. I do use the AOD notify app and that could be a nice workaround for that as that will still light up for notifications that are labeled as "other" over the Ambient display and you can then color code each app to what you want.

tambukey said:
Only thing I can think of for the notifications is make them all "Other" instead of important. you would have to do that per app and per notification type that each app shows. Long clicking them in the drop down gives you the option to change it there. But that also means you need to enable "important and other notifications" on lock screen if you want them to show up there.; however, I can't find a way to allow "other" notifications to display on the Ambient display. I do use the AOD notify app and that could be a nice workaround for that as that will still light up for notifications that are labeled as "other" over the Ambient display and you can then color code each app to what you want.
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Thanks for the tip. I changed the media apps I use to not important and that seems to have taken care of my issue for the most part.
Its not a perfect solution but it's the best and most helpful so far. Thank you, mate.

shadowofdeth said:
That's disappointing.
I have managed to move the clock to the right with edXposed via Gravitybox. It's just notifications now. Don't suppose you'd know if it's possible to disable the icons but still have notifications for those apps show up in the notification drop-down?
And that camera display area, when enabled, is the black bar I'm talking about. It's unsightly and a waste of space. Using the mod I found, all apps but Ookla Speed Test fill the ENTIRE to screen beautifully with no essential UI elements blocked by the camera. Landscape or portrait.
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Hey @shadowofdeth, I have bought the OP8 recently and I too wish to reduce the height of the status bar(I don't mind the punch hole using the app space since most apps have the logo only at the top left). You said you have used a mod to reduce the space. Was it the edXposed or is it something else? Thanks in advance

Is It Possible to Change the Height of My Status Bar

I am currently using an S9 + and I was going through the developer options and saw an option to "Stimulate display with cutout". One thing I have liked about recent phones with cutouts are the bigger status bars (Probably makes me weird). There are different options, but all of them add a black bar (I know this makes sense but it looks weird since there are no sensors/cameras there). I was wondering if there is a way to get the same effect (larger status bar) without the weird black cutout on my screen. I tried finding an ADB command but I was unable to find one.