What setting do you guys prefer? Notch or notch hidden? I have mine full screen with notch it doesn't bother me and I think it looks pretty nice
Full screen with notch shown. Hidden just looks ugly imo
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Full screen with notch shown. Hidden just looks ugly imo
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Ya I think it looks better with the notch as well I don't mind it without tho it still looks clean
Hiding the notch borks some things like Android Auto. I got used to it very quickly and prefer the full screen.
I have it full screen as well. Also I use Nova launcher and I use the gesture swipe up to toggle/hide the status bar. That also hides the notch on the fly but also hide all the status bar info unless you pull down. Just thought that was an interesting way to hide show the notch on the fly.
I also have full screen with notch. I thought it would bother me but it doesn't.
With notch, like most others, it didn't bother me as much as I thought it would and actually looks nicer than the entire top blacked out.
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What setting do you guys prefer? Notch or notch hidden? I have mine full screen with notch it doesn't bother me and I think it looks pretty nice
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Some of us OnePlus 6 users, who connect to infotainment systems, for Android Auto, have discovered we don't have a choice. If the notch is hidden, the car's touch screen doesn't respond. The image displayed might not even fit.
It's great to have a choice. But, without an update from OnePlus, some of us are finding there's no option.
Before my own hand was forced, I hadn't made up my mind as to which I preferred.
And Nova Launcher provides some extraordinarily useful settings, for making the most of a navigation-button-free landscape, on this device's screen.
Can't believe I'm the only one so far hiding the notch! Not that I hate it or anything, I just think it looks better hidden. It helps balance it with the chin.
I've been switching back and forth...kinda like them both actually...but I mostly leave the notch
Hello, guys!
What does everyone mean by hiding the notch? Just making it black or disabling the notch area completely? Is there any ROM with the ability to turn off the notch area and move notifications beneath the notch so that I could have just a normal status bar with a long row of icons?
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What does everyone mean by hiding the notch? Just making it black or disabling the notch area completely?
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By default, "hiding" the notch, simply turns it to black background. That never made sense to me, so I just left it as is. I'm also interested in an option the move the status bar below the notch, so I can see more notifications.
Black status bar in my op6 - so ntoch hidden. Not bother me at all and there is enough space for icons, and more space on display itself.
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I'd also like this option.
I really don't mind the notch at all. If anything I wish most apps would allow me to fill it totally when in immersive mode instead of blacking it out. Many apps don't use the space.
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[sorry i mean S8plus not S9plus. I haven't invented time travel (yet)]
I've never had a soft one and quite like the "always there" hard buttons on my Note 4.
I'm looking for a new phone though and have finally narrowed it down to:
S8plus
Huawei Mate 9
I worked out that with the stupid aspect ratio the 6.2" screen of the s8+ is actually narrower than the M9. BUT this is clever in order to have the nav bar out the way not being a nuisance.
I was seconds from placing an order on Wonda only to have a think about the Nav bar. It actually eats up (I'm guessing a centimetre?) space at the bottom of the screen and it seems to me that this will be the case for all apps, except for games or vids I suppose. Very annoying I guess! From my searching I understand that without a root it's not easily hideable. (Wonda will be putting an international ROM on the Chinese version and I think someone said here this won't affect it being rootable but I am not sure so I'd rather not risk it).
What a real pain in the backside as it effectively reduces the screensize!
It's for this reason only that I'm considering the Samsung S8plus instead. Yes the aspect ratio is ridiculous but if my 1cm estimate is correct, going by *my* calculations of actual screen real estate I get the following:
Mate 9:
Screen width 7.34cm
Screen height 13.06cm
Actual usable height when removing the 1cm of the navigation bar = 12.06cm
Total usable screen aree with nav bar present = 7.34x12.06 = 88.52cm2
Samsung S8plus
Screen width 6.89cm
Screen height 14.16cm
Actual usable area when removing 1cm of navigation bar = 13.16cm
Total usable screen aree with nav bar present = 6.89x13.16 = 90.67cm2
It seems that even with the stupid aspect ratio the S8+ might produce a bigger useable screen.
Can anyone confirm how much screen size is used up by the nav bar?
Can anyone advise how much of an impact this has?
If anyone knows of any tricks to reduce this impact it'd be appreciated
Thanks
The nav bar is about 1/4" high. Coming from the Note 3 (and Note 1 before that), I also had some concern about going to an on-screen nav bar, but in reality, it hasn't been an issue for me. When using most apps, the loss of height isn't typically an issue. We most often use the phone in portrait mode, so it's the width that affects the scale/size of what's being viewed, the nav bar just hides area that you haven't yet scrolled to. At times when you really need the entire screen (pictures, videos, and presumably games) the nav buttons are either superimposed on the image, or go away completely.
For full-screen games/apps the navigation bar hides, and is accessible again by swiping up from the bottom. Took a while for me to figure that out (for games that have no Exit button) xD
You can install apps like Fulscrn to hide the navigation bar completely.
I get about 7.5 mm which is a little more than 1/4 an inch (about .295 inches). Here is a screen shot with and without navibar when using browser. I have the Chinese version which allows you to hide navibar.
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I get about 7.5 mm which is a little more than 1/4 an inch (about .295 inches). Here is a screen shot with and without navibar when using browser. I have the Chinese version which allows you to hide navibar.
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Ah although im buying from china i think they are putting an international rom on it which means i wont have this
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You can install apps like Fulscrn to hide the navigation bar completely.
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Cool.. how well does it work though? Wont it stop you using the keyboard too?
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Cool.. how well does it work though? Wont it stop you using the keyboard too?
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I used GMD Immersive for a while. Tried to persevere but it was just too much trouble and eventually gave up.
Look at the navigation bar in the screenshot attached to this post, the application UI is black, the status bar is black, and the most common color is black. Ignoring all of this, the navigation bar is still white, and this will ironically burn the navigation bar in if you use the application too often.
Why can't the color just automatically match the status bar? It's kind of dumb to always have it as white, in applications with a black UI it looks ugly and ironically burns in. Doing the exact opposite of what the update was made to fix. There is also no way to change this, it's impossible to have any other color than something very light. This isn't a problem for me, because I always hide the bar in use (looks great), but for someone who doesn't want to do it, this will be a huge issue and annoyance.
My thoughs exactly. I have a lot of black apps and themes which frankly now look ridiculous. It is actually off putting having a huge white bar at the bottom when everything else is black or dark (and no, before some smart arse decides to say it, hiding it is NOT the solution).
I have also noticed in pretty much every app I have used that I now have this stupid bar pop up just above the nav bar which says press here to go full screen (which doesn;t actually go full screen anyway, all it does is get rid of the empty gap caused by this message in the first place). I mean WTF? I never had that showing up before and never had any issues before either.
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Look at the navigation bar in the screenshot attached to this post, the application UI is black, the status bar is black, and the most common color is black. Ignoring all of this, the navigation bar is still white, and this will ironically burn the navigation bar in if you use the application too often.
Why can't the color just automatically match the status bar? It's kind of dumb to always have it as white, in applications with a black UI it looks ugly and ironically burns in. Doing the exact opposite of what the update was made to fix. There is also no way to change this, it's impossible to have any other color than something very light. This isn't a problem for me, because I always hide the bar in use (looks great), but for someone who doesn't want to do it, this will be a huge issue and annoyance.
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A "huge" issue is a bit of an overstatement in my opinion. Samsung has done this on purpose to make sure that the pixels that are turned off when the nav bar is black don't burn in slower than all the other pixels on the screen, which would create an even uglier sight if that happens.
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A "huge" issue is a bit of an overstatement in my opinion. Samsung has done this on purpose to make sure that the pixels that are turned off when the nav bar is black don't burn in slower than all the other pixels on the screen, which would create an even uglier sight if that happens.
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But now the navigation bar will burn in faster than the rest of the screen, it is still a huge issue... The issue is still not solved, and it looks even uglier than before. A black navigation bar on a white themed app looks good, because it blends to the black bezel, and doesn't attract attention from the content of the app due to being practically invisible (only the icons to navigate are visible).
White catches the eye, and a white navigation bar on a black app is very distracting from the content you're trying to see. It also breaks the immersion of similar colors being displayed on the entire screen, a uniformity of darkness across the screen looks good, but not, if there is a white bar in the bottom breaking the immersion.
It's beyond me why Samsung hasn't made the navigation bar sync colors with the status bar. The goal to avoid burn-ins is to have a similar brightness / color on the whole display, to avoid differences that add up to burning in over time. The status bar shifts color based on application, this is why it doesn't burn in. It's white on white applications, and black on black applications. Copying this color for the navigation bar would be the perfect fix for burn-ins, but instead Samsung turned the bar bright white under ANY conditions.
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My thoughs exactly. I have a lot of black apps and themes which frankly now look ridiculous. It is actually off putting having a huge white bar at the bottom when everything else is black or dark (and no, before some smart arse decides to say it, hiding it is NOT the solution).
I have also noticed in pretty much every app I have used that I now have this stupid bar pop up just above the nav bar which says press here to go full screen (which doesn;t actually go full screen anyway, all it does is get rid of the empty gap caused by this message in the first place). I mean WTF? I never had that showing up before and never had any issues before either.
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Here's a fix if you don't mind themes.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/themes/theme-dark-default-t3597615
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Here's a fix if you don't mind themes.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/themes/theme-dark-default-t3597615
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What if I want to keep the default stock look? It's not a proper solution to change the entire device's theme to be black, just to have a black navigation bar. This also brings back the burn-in issue on light themed apps, the navigation bar being black will burn in slower than the rest of the screen.
Nvm
Totally agree. Not only this but the whole software seems like it is not there yet.
I have actually disabled automatic updates on my S8+ both in normal settings and under developer settings after hearing about this update. Shouldn't that be enough? Or can I prevent the update entirely somehow without root?
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I have actually disabled automatic updates on my S8+ both in normal settings and under developer settings after hearing about this update. Shouldn't that be enough? Or can I prevent the update entirely somehow without root?
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If you want to completely stop system updates, you can do that with a package disabler. There are paid ones that have tons of features like data clearing, but those aren't needed in this case. The Adhell ad blocker has a package disabler built in to it, you can download the Adhell app from here if you want: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.getadhell.androidapp
After downloading and opening the application, it prompts you to give it permissions to enable the Knox service, used for blocking ads and disabling packages (no root needed). After this is done, tap the middle option in the bottom, that says "Package disabler". A list of applications appears, you can just scroll down to find the system update application, and flip the switch on the right to disable it. After this you won't get notifications of system updates anymore, because the application used for them is technically uninstalled. It still is there, but it's not in use anymore.
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If you want to completely stop system updates, you can do that with a package disabler. There are paid ones that have tons of features like data clearing, but those aren't needed in this case. The Adhell ad blocker has a package disabler built in to it, you can download the Adhell app from here if you want: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.getadhell.androidapp
After downloading and opening the application, it prompts you to give it permissions to enable the Knox service, used for blocking ads and disabling packages (no root needed). After this is done, tap the middle option in the bottom, that says "Package disabler". A list of applications appears, you can just scroll down to find the system update application, and flip the switch on the right to disable it. After this you won't get notifications of system updates anymore, because the application used for them is technically uninstalled. It still is there, but it's not in use anymore.
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Ohh, I actually have booth Adhell and Package Disabler (The individual app) I will disable that thanks!
I cannot deny, I LOVE this device. Everything working flawless so far ?.. Call me nuts, I like the notch more than I probably should. I've searched through this forum and through settings a few times, but maybe I'm overlooking it...
Question is, I'm noticing the left side of the status bar can fit the time and also 4 icons, effectively fitting them right up to the notch. The right side is only fitting battery icon and cell service info while anything else gets the dots. Am I missing a setting to fit more info on the right side? Or did OnePlus purposely waste status bar real estate? Pic for reference.
I think that's the expected (by 1+, at least) beahiour.
Agree with you, the 3 dots is annoying.
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I cannot deny, I LOVE this device. Everything working flawless so far ?.. Call me nuts, I like the notch more than I probably should. I've searched through this forum and through settings a few times, but maybe I'm overlooking it...
Question is, I'm noticing the left side of the status bar can fit the time and also 4 icons, effectively fitting them right up to the notch. The right side is only fitting battery icon and cell service info while anything else gets the dots. Am I missing a setting to fit more info on the right side? Or did OnePlus purposely waste status bar real estate? Pic for reference.
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I can get 4 icons on the right (battery, cell, vibration, and Bluetooth) for example.
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I can get 4 icons on the right (battery, cell, vibration, and Bluetooth) for example.
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Hmm I tried a bunch of combinations and ended up realizing a couple of them default to the 3 dots... When I put on all of the ones you mentioned they do indeed stack up. Maybe there's no alarm icon in the system files lol ?. Oh well. Thanks for the input
Have you tried to set display size to small with small font in display settings?
Hi,
Can someone please help me permanently blackened the status bar around the notch on LG - LMG710AWM (Canadian). It is not rooted and I just hate the dreaded notch so much, I will send the phone back if I can not turn that s*** off. natcho notch or whatever did not work. :-| :crying:
...and just to clarify, I am not trying to be racist or discriminatory against status bar, black or any other colors or things...heck, I will be fine if I can get it all white all the time. I just can't stand the status bar changing itself with the apps background colors. That is absolutely the worst UI oversight if it is not manageable by the users in Android.
Just pick a solid colour then. You even have a rainbow option
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Just pick a solid colour then. You even have a rainbow option
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Stop with your attitude.. What is your problem?
There are options to select a solid color..or even rainbow.. Settings/display/second screan.
Tick custom then select one.
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After days of searching for a way to force proper full screen mode WITHOUT the thick black bar I finally found one. However, it puts all notification/status icons already on the left under the camera. I'm so close to a perfect solution but this one thing is in my way.
Ideally I'd like to move all icons right but messing with the padding might be a good plan B.
Please help. It's driving me mental.
If you are referring to any notification icon and/or the clock, there really isn't any way to move those without doing a bunch of work on a rooted device creating your own theme basically. Also what thick black bar are you talking about for fullscreen? the bars are only present if whatever is being displayed isn't a 20:9 ratio. so any 16:9 (like most 1080p) media will get the bars. but everything else should be full screen by ensuring Setting>Display>Advanced>Front camera display area is on the right setting.
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If you are referring to any notification icon and/or the clock, there really isn't any way to move those without doing a bunch of work on a rooted device creating your own theme basically. Also what thick black bar are you talking about for fullscreen? the bars are only present if whatever is being displayed isn't a 20:9 ratio. so any 16:9 (like most 1080p) media will get the bars. but everything else should be full screen by ensuring Setting>Display>Advanced>Front camera display area is on the right setting.
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That's disappointing.
I have managed to move the clock to the right with edXposed via Gravitybox. It's just notifications now. Don't suppose you'd know if it's possible to disable the icons but still have notifications for those apps show up in the notification drop-down?
And that camera display area, when enabled, is the black bar I'm talking about. It's unsightly and a waste of space. Using the mod I found, all apps but Ookla Speed Test fill the ENTIRE to screen beautifully with no essential UI elements blocked by the camera. Landscape or portrait.
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That's disappointing.
I have managed to move the clock to the right with edXposed via Gravitybox. It's just notifications now. Don't suppose you'd know if it's possible to disable the icons but still have notifications for those apps show up in the notification drop-down?
And that camera display area, when enabled, is the black bar I'm talking about. It's unsightly and a waste of space. Using the mod I found, all apps but Ookla Speed Test fill the ENTIRE to screen beautifully with no essential UI elements blocked by the camera. Landscape or portrait.
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Only thing I can think of for the notifications is make them all "Other" instead of important. you would have to do that per app and per notification type that each app shows. Long clicking them in the drop down gives you the option to change it there. But that also means you need to enable "important and other notifications" on lock screen if you want them to show up there.; however, I can't find a way to allow "other" notifications to display on the Ambient display. I do use the AOD notify app and that could be a nice workaround for that as that will still light up for notifications that are labeled as "other" over the Ambient display and you can then color code each app to what you want.
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Only thing I can think of for the notifications is make them all "Other" instead of important. you would have to do that per app and per notification type that each app shows. Long clicking them in the drop down gives you the option to change it there. But that also means you need to enable "important and other notifications" on lock screen if you want them to show up there.; however, I can't find a way to allow "other" notifications to display on the Ambient display. I do use the AOD notify app and that could be a nice workaround for that as that will still light up for notifications that are labeled as "other" over the Ambient display and you can then color code each app to what you want.
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Thanks for the tip. I changed the media apps I use to not important and that seems to have taken care of my issue for the most part.
Its not a perfect solution but it's the best and most helpful so far. Thank you, mate.
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That's disappointing.
I have managed to move the clock to the right with edXposed via Gravitybox. It's just notifications now. Don't suppose you'd know if it's possible to disable the icons but still have notifications for those apps show up in the notification drop-down?
And that camera display area, when enabled, is the black bar I'm talking about. It's unsightly and a waste of space. Using the mod I found, all apps but Ookla Speed Test fill the ENTIRE to screen beautifully with no essential UI elements blocked by the camera. Landscape or portrait.
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Hey @shadowofdeth, I have bought the OP8 recently and I too wish to reduce the height of the status bar(I don't mind the punch hole using the app space since most apps have the logo only at the top left). You said you have used a mod to reduce the space. Was it the edXposed or is it something else? Thanks in advance