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I like to get your feedback. I have a ASUS watch (Zen 2), off course using Android Wear. I like the integration with many Android apps like Whatspps, Viber, Hotmail, Gmail, Twiter, Google Maps, Spotyfy, almost any apps, even my bank account. The question is if I can have the same functionality with the Gear S3, based on Tizen? I mean the functionality to see the messages on the watch and even reply them.
Or if is just only a matter to have installed Android Wear on the phone?
I'll appreciate your comments.
Thanks.
I don't have any issue with notification from Viber or Watchapp,Gmail and replying directly from the smartwatch.
I'm also having Zenwatch 3 and functionality is the same.
Once you receive a whatsapp message on the S3 and read it, it's gone. So you can't reply again unless you receive another message.
There is a very good app called notification wear which you can get from the play store.
When you receive a message, it stores it.Even when you delete a whatsapp message it still stores the person who sent the message so you can reply at anytime.
You can setup which message apps you want to receive like facebook, Viber, gmail and so on.
You get 20 free messages after that you need to pay for the premium app. But it's only £1.70 and worth it.
Hi, I couldn't find anywhere such an info. This could be a potential reason for me not to buy this watch.
Is it possibile to directly start an hangout chat or a whatsapp chat directly from the watch? I mean can I only answer to a recieved hangout or whatsapp message I guess, but can I even send a new message directly from the watch?
I own a Huawei Watch and, at least for Google hangout, I can start a new chat directly from the smartwatch.
Thanks in advance, this is really important for me.
I'm using an app called NOTIFICATION STYLE GEAR for receiving and sending whatsapp messages, it can also send & receive emails, FB, Google Now,Hangout and more.
When you receive a whatsapp message it stores the contact and you can reply at any time.
But there is just one problem with the app, it can only store your messages for as long as the watch is on, if you turn it off, you loose your messages/whatsapp contacts. Then you need wait for the person to send another message again.
It's available on play store, your get 20 free tries, then you need to purchase the app.
It's not perfect, but at the moment this is the only app I have found that you can reply to a contract stored on your watch.
There is also another app called what history. Which let's you store whatsapp messages, the developer said you will be able to reply to messages in the next update.
First of all thank you very much for your answer.
I thought that you could answer any notification without having to use a dedicated app, I mean, I though you could answer a whatsapp or a hangout message on your own on the watch without any app. Isn't it true?
I was asking just whether or not you need a separate app to start a new chat on your own.
Now, from your answer it seems like you need an app to reply to a chat message too. This is scaring. 😱😱😱
I mean, then what kind of notification you can answer on your own on the watch, just sma and email?
You can answer a message: whatsapp , mail or hanghouts. but you cannot start one.
Using the S3 with the Oneplus 3T
Pandor said:
You can answer a message: whatsapp , mail or hanghouts. but you cannot start one.
Using the S3 with the Oneplus 3T
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Thanks, this sound better
Then, the app Iamac was talking about is needed to start a conversation with hangout or WhatsApp directly from the watch?
Hello Aratheba, the app I use works like this.
When you receive a whatsapp message it stores it on the watch. You can delete the message but it will keep the senders name. That way you can reply at any time. I'm not sure if it is the same for hangout messages as I do not use it.
As I said earlier, the downside to this app is when you turn the watch off, as it looses all the contacts and messages. And you have to wait till you receive another message then it stores it again.
This app works well as you get a pop up on the watch with the senders whatsapp profile pic. There are many settings within the app for different vibrate patterns for different message types. For example, you can have 3 vibrates for whatsapp and 5 for hangout. You can also change the font size to make it either easier to read or smaller to fit more of the message on the watch screen.
I hope this helps you.
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Hello Aratheba, the app I use works like this.
When you receive a whatsapp message it stores it on the watch. You can delete the message but it will keep the senders name. That way you can reply at any time. I'm not sure if it is the same for hangout messages as I do not use it.
As I said earlier, the downside to this app is when you turn the watch off, as it looses all the contacts and messages. And you have to wait till you receive another message then it stores it again.
This app works well as you get a pop up on the watch with the senders whatsapp profile pic. There are many settings within the app for different vibrate patterns for different message types. For example, you can have 3 vibrates for whatsapp and 5 for hangout. You can also change the font size to make it either easier to read or smaller to fit more of the message on the watch screen.
I hope this helps you.
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Thanks. Now it's crystal clear.
It's not perfect but it's a beginning. It would be interesting to know whether it really works for hangout too.
Thanks anyway
What do you use hangouts for? I just tried it.
With the app I use, it isn't very good. I don't see any emails. If I use sms I can receive but no option to reply.
You are meant to receive hangout messages with the watch's own app, when I tried it, I got no notifications. There is a list of app notification to choose from and hangouts was selected.
For emails I use a android phone app called MY MAIL it merges all my email accounts into one app and I can use this with notification wear app I have for the watch.
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What do you use hangouts for? I just tried it.
With the app I use, it isn't very good. I don't see any emails. If I use sms I can receive but no option to reply.
You are meant to receive hangout messages with the watch's own app, when I tried it, I got no notifications. There is a list of app notification to choose from and hangouts was selected.
For emails I use a android phone app called MY MAIL it merges all my email accounts into one app and I can use this with notification wear app I have for the watch.
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I use hangout way more than whatsapp. There are several reasons for.me to prefer hangout over whatsapp, but it would be ot here.
I also use Hangouts more than Whatsapp, as it is used as my company's chat app. Have been using Wear for the last 2 years, and have never found a reason to start a message on the watch. Trying to find the contact you need would take forever. Replying to a message i done a few times, probably now a bit more as the S3 has a " keyboard".
It's easier than you think: you just don't have to archive chat and you can easily add a new message to an already existing thread. No need to search for contacts.
Moreover I found that voice dictation on wear it's almost perfect.
And, if you try last preview for wear 2.0 you even have keyboard and hand writing. ?
Reading some reviews only one I read recently pointed out that using gear s3 on a not Samsung android smartphone you cannot use s voice to perform text to speech in answering, for instance, SMS or mail or whatsapp, etc
Is it really true? That's a shame!!!
What else will I miss using a not Samsung android phone?
Tia
I have the Gear S3 Frontier paired with a OnePlus 3 and S Voice is working, I can answer and write messages by using my voice but I can't read my text messages or my emails, I just have a notification when it comes, and I can answer it that way, but there isn't a real application "messages" and "e-mail" as you may have with a Samsung device.
I'm trying to look for it.
That's OK. I mean, you can answer mail, SMS, chat (hangout, whatsapp) notifications using s voice.
But you can't read old sma, mails, chats, etc right?
I use android wear and apart from hangout where you have a dedicated app it's the same. That's OK for me.
I just need to be able to use voice to text to answer current notifications.
Anyone with a mate 9 can confirm it?
Hi everybody,
I'm new so I'm sorry if I violated a rule, or I missed the section, or else.
But I bought recently this beautiful smartwatch and paired with my P9 lite (Nougat) and I just saw the VERY BIG problem of this watch: WhatsApp's notifications.
So I started to download all the solutions, like the Chat Hub, W History etc etc ... all s**t both software and UI.
Downloaded Notification for Gear s123 (both versions available) but app crashed frequently.
I downloaded Double Check that you can receive notification via this app and WhatsApp too, so double notifications for one message and the watch receive double notifications too and often the watch did not vibrated.
With all this "test" I understand the mechanism of Gear s2's notifications system so I started to develop an app for that, but immediately I applied the first rule of programming:
If something has already been done, do not do it again.
I looked for a message merger:
Then I downloaded an app called Disa from the play store and installed the WhatsApp plugin and now all is ok !!!!!
PRO
- Read all messages
- Reply to all messages
- On phone, you can merge all the notification from the same sender.
CONS
- When you open a message on watch you can see this struct:
Sender
Messages
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messages
But only when you open the notification!
-Sender profile image no more on the background of the watch when receiving a notification.
-Has a different UI for use whatsapp.
However, it's a temporary solution, basically it's just an update to whatsapp or Gear or ... Then I don't know if an update will breaks the app, but at the moment works very very well.
Now I'm working on the development of an app I'm going to do for free but my work takes me a long time.
I hope to have helped.
Best regards!
Thank you so much for the tip! Appreciate your work and may you develop an awesome app to rectify a problem that Samsung doesn't want to
Thank you, I appreciate your support.
However it's not all the fault of Samsung. In fact, the Gear Notification Manager (seems) works that if the app on the phone has the permission to vibrate, the smartwatch vibrates, if the notification on the smartphone contains some information (in this case the messages) then the smartwatch shows that information. WhatsApp restricts Gear functionality through the notification system it has adopted. In other words, Disa sends notifications to the smartphone in a different way, for example, Disa doesn't show the sender's profile photo.
Little update:
Reply via Speech-to-text isn't supported on Gear.
I recently bought a Gear S3 and since then looking for a nice decent solution to the WhatsApp problem.
W-History is doing as promised, but a really ugly GUI.
Notifications for S123 doesn't work on my S3
Chat Hub I didn't check.
I ended up using Notifications Wear Style, which works well for me.
The free version can show 20 messages and then tells you to buy the premium version.
I was about to buy the premium version till I saw your post.
It made me really curious if you can come up with a free app and nice GUI would be a big plus.
Anyway, keep up the good work and hope to see your app soon.
Note that there are a lot of message merger in play store! I just download the first.
However, my work take me long time so I don't know when I can develop the app.
I can only view last received message from notifications thats it. Cant find a place for all messages.
Download from Play Store, an app called Disa. Then download (from app) the plugin for WhatsApp. After that you will able to read (and reply) all WhatsApp messagges.
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Download from Play Store, an app called Disa. Then download (from app) the plugin for WhatsApp. After that you will able to read (and reply) all WhatsApp messagges.
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Downloaded Disa yesterday, but when started it said that the original WhatsApp app needed to be deinstalled.
Is that correct ?
What are the consequences when the original client is deinstalled ?
Yes. I use this app from 9 days and no problem. The plugin support the end to end encryption.
If you use Disa you can't do call and videocall from WhatsApp.
For what remains you can do all what you do with WhatsApp.
On p9 lite works very well.
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Yes. I use this app from 9 days and no problem. The plugin support the end to end encryption.
If you use Disa you can't do call and videocall from WhatsApp.
For what remains you can do all what you do with WhatsApp.
On p9 lite works very well.
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Thanks for the quick answer and information.
Will I loose any current conversations from the original WhatsApp client when I deinstall it and start to use Disa ?
(just want to know before I get into surprises).
No problem man, we are all in the same boat.
And yes, you will loose all conversations.
Received today an upgrade for WhatsApp's plugin. Still no problem with the Gear.
was perfect solution if only allows call and videocall.. maybe in future this possible with Disa?
in every case thank you so much for the Trick
Well, I was thoroughly investigating the problem of notifications, not only with WhatsApp, but with apps like Telegram, Hagouts, Allo and so on. (Of all, only Facebook Messenger Lite had no problems and showed the history normally).
Well, from Android Nougat, the notifications have changed and have come to present more information, but the way Gear handles them yet! The Gear app sends the notifications by the title (or the name of the contact) AND the last information received.
Tizen receives the title and compares it with existing notification titles. If it matches, it will add the last information received in the saved messages. If the title of the notification differs from the one stored, it will understand that it is a new notification and then create a new page.
WhatsApp and Telegram notifications on Android nougat are like this:
For a message:
Name
For two messages:
Name (2 messages)
For three messages:
Name (3 messages)
And more ...
Therefore, the notification title changes each message, making what Tizen thinks is a new notification and creating a new page. The old message is deleted the title has changed and soon the system thinks it has been read.
Anyone who owned a device with the MM or lower could confirm my thesis?
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was perfect solution if only allows call and videocall.. maybe in future this possible with Disa?
in every case thank you so much for the Trick
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Maybe... but I don't believe. The scope of Disa is to merge the messages not to do calls.
UPDATE: Yesterday I received an update of DIsa and WhatsApp's plugin. Still work!
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Maybe... but I don't believe. The scope of Disa is to merge the messages not to do calls.
UPDATE: Yesterday I received an update of DIsa and WhatsApp's plugin. Still work!
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Hi @erfack, I don't know if you are using any other method to read Whatsapp messages on Gear, but I have a Gear Sport and I still don't like any of the solutions when I compare to Android Wear.
I started to investigate it too, and this is what I found: If I connect an Android Wear device to my phone, a "Read More" option appears on the Gear Sport (tested in S2 and S3 too).
Full history:
I have a Gear Sport and, as many others, I'm trying to understand why the Read More options is not appearing in some third-party apps, like Whatsapp.
What I found is that if I have only my Gear Sport connected to my Galaxy S8+, the Read More options does not appear and I can only read the last message received, not the full conversation.
But if I connect another watch to my phone (I also have a Huawei Watch, which runs Android Wear 2) then the Read More option appears on the Gear Watch! Then I can read all messages received.
I have to believe that Samsung can correct this, since it appears to be a notification bug, solved somehow by the Android Wear connection.
For now, I'm just unable to switch from Android Wear to Tizen because of this ridiculous bug that is here since the Gear S2, as far as I read here on the foruns.
Anyway, thanks for your info on Disa!
Hi @Lucas_Skyline, I found there is an incompatibility by Tizen in the android notification system. This is caused by the new Android notification system that have more function and more types respect the oldest versions. Furthermore there's some difficulties about to write code 'cause, in Tizen, apps are written in C (now C++ and .NET too) while android is full Java. This is for Tizen. For WhatsApp, Mr. Zucks decided to not release API or source code of WhatsApp then is more hardest to circunmavigate this (ugly...very ugly!) bug.
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Hi @Lucas_Skyline, I found there is an incompatibility by Tizen in the android notification system. This is caused by the new Android notification system that have more function and more types respect the oldest versions. Furthermore there's some difficulties about to write code 'cause, in Tizen, apps are written in C (now C++ and .NET too) while android is full Java. This is for Tizen. For WhatsApp, Mr. Zucks decided to not release API or source code of WhatsApp then is more hardest to circunmavigate this (ugly...very ugly!) bug.
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Understood!
I was wondering why it works when I have a Android Wear device connected. I mean, it works on the Gear Sport, I connect my Huawei Watch and the "Read More" option appears. Maybe we could find a way to emulate an android wear device?
Is very very hard to simulate a OS (I think is possible, but the battery will drains after a couple of hour), but a custom solution is easy. Just change the notifications popup like Disa does. However I have the impression that is a commercial move by Android because Tizen is the 2nd wolrd's most popular OS for smartwatches ( Watch OS at 57%, Tizen at 19% and Android Wear at 18%).
not wark now whatsapp plugin ..
I was invited into a group chat with 3 other Verizon users, we all have Android phones - but they all use the official (God awful) Verizon Message+ app and I'm using Pixel's default (Google) texting app, which I really like so far. Problem is... When I first was invited into the group text, it worked - kind of. I got text messages and stuff, but instead of replacing the phone numbers that prefixed the messages, it'd just show the phone numbers.
So I asked them what they used, and downloaded the Verizon texting app and switched to that - I could see avatars, the background picture, it read my contact info for each user correctly, etc.. But the app is terrible, I mean a truly god awful piece of garbage - you can't even save images to your phone, just to "Verizon".
Anyways, rant aside - I switched back to Google's texting app and now I'm not getting any messages in the group text - and I asked in person, they're still sending messages, they're just not coming through for me.
So my main question is: How do I fix not receiving group texts anymore? I tried deleting cache + data for the google texting app like I saw being recommended, but that didn't fix it. I really don't want to switch back to the Verizon message+ app if I can help it because it really is terrible.
Any help would be appreciated. I'd even accept another texting app suggestion if it has feature parity with the google app, I just want to do everything I can to avoid Verizon's app.
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I was invited into a group chat with 3 other Verizon users, we all have Android phones - but they all use the official (God awful) Verizon Message+ app and I'm using Pixel's default (Google) texting app, which I really like so far. Problem is... When I first was invited into the group text, it worked - kind of. I got text messages and stuff, but instead of replacing the phone numbers that prefixed the messages, it'd just show the phone numbers.
So I asked them what they used, and downloaded the Verizon texting app and switched to that - I could see avatars, the background picture, it read my contact info for each user correctly, etc.. But the app is terrible, I mean a truly god awful piece of garbage - you can't even save images to your phone, just to "Verizon".
Anyways, rant aside - I switched back to Google's texting app and now I'm not getting any messages in the group text - and I asked in person, they're still sending messages, they're just not coming through for me.
So my main question is: How do I fix not receiving group texts anymore? I tried deleting cache + data for the google texting app like I saw being recommended, but that didn't fix it. I really don't want to switch back to the Verizon message+ app if I can help it because it really is terrible.
Any help would be appreciated. I'd even accept another texting app suggestion if it has feature parity with the google app, I just want to do everything I can to avoid Verizon's app.
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Does your device have a "dual messenger" option anywhere in your system settings?
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No promises, but you might try Textra. I think the problem come from Verizon's app can send over Wi-Fi (desktop apps) and is not really sms compliant.
Thank you both, but sadly no option for dual messaging and I've used Textra and wasn't a huge fan. As awful as the Verizon app is, I may just have to keep using it ?