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[Q] Android 4.4 Hangouts SMS issue

Hi there,
My first post here, although I've hung out, anonymously, looking at the resources within the forum.
Today I received my Nexus 5. It's a lovely bit of hardware, but I've come from an HTC phone (4.1.1 Desire X) and I love the Sense UI; just so you know, I hate stock 4.4 thus my post below is in utter exasperation
I'm having an issue with trying to send an SMS. Unfortunately, I have to use Hangouts (I refused to update from Google Talk on the Desire X) and I'm finding that I can't sending a frigging SMS to a colleague at work because I have his Gmail email address as part of his contact details!!!
This is absolutely the most retarded thing in a Phone OS that I have come across, ever. Unfortunately, as an early adopter of this phone, I'm stuck without an alternative. So far as I can see, in Hangouts, I would have to type in the phone number manually whilst being logged out of my Gmail accounts in Hangouts to send an SMS, or maybe deleting the user's email address would suffice.
Am I missing some way of sending an SMS that's not completely obvious here?

My N5 arrives tomorrow, so I can't be much help with the app itself, but if it's really confusing/awful you can download an alternative SMS app from the play store and set it as your default.
Edit: I hear you on hating hangouts. I cant stand the version they have on 4.0/4.1/4.2/4.3, been sticking with talk also.

I don't have it in my hands yet to test, but I'm fairly sure once you've opened the "new hangout" window, you can tap on their name on the upper left and switch to SMS from Hangout message.

two00lbwaster said:
Hi there,
My first post here, although I've hung out, anonymously, looking at the resources within the forum.
Today I received my Nexus 5. It's a lovely bit of hardware, but I've come from an HTC phone (4.1.1 Desire X) and I love the Sense UI; just so you know, I hate stock 4.4 thus my post below is in utter exasperation
I'm having an issue with trying to send an SMS. Unfortunately, I have to use Hangouts (I refused to update from Google Talk on the Desire X) and I'm finding that I can't sending a frigging SMS to a colleague at work because I have his Gmail email address as part of his contact details!!!
This is absolutely the most retarded thing in a Phone OS that I have come across, ever. Unfortunately, as an early adopter of this phone, I'm stuck without an alternative. So far as I can see, in Hangouts, I would have to type in the phone number manually whilst being logged out of my Gmail accounts in Hangouts to send an SMS, or maybe deleting the user's email address would suffice.
Am I missing some way of sending an SMS that's not completely obvious here?
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This app simply uses the word "Hangouts" over "SMS" so basically new hangout means new text message unless you specify a hangout chat. If the actual hangouts for either is unavailable then a text message will be automatically sent to the number. New "SMS" is the plus button and you can immediately type the number or scroll to find your contact. Everything after seems to work just like iMessage.

koriflame said:
My N5 arrives tomorrow, so I can't be much help with the app itself, but if it's really confusing/awful you can download an alternative SMS app from the play store and set it as your default.
Edit: I hear you on hating hangouts. I cant stand the version they have on 4.0/4.1/4.2/4.3, been sticking with talk also.
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Seems to be the downside of having the device nice and early, noone else has one to confirm the issue.
Unfortunately, the other apps don't seem to work as they have to be rebuilt due to the changes that 4.4 has introduced

two00lbwaster said:
Seems to be the downside of having the device nice and early, noone else has one to confirm the issue.
Unfortunately, the other apps don't seem to work as they have to be rebuilt due to the changes that 4.4 has introduced
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I'm not sure what problem you are having. I just got my N5 today and when I create a new message in Hangouts and choose a contact (one that has a gmail.com email address as well as a cell number) I have the choice between starting a chat or sending an SMS to the phone number. Do you not see this?

Vincent Law said:
I don't have it in my hands yet to test, but I'm fairly sure once you've opened the "new hangout" window, you can tap on their name on the upper left and switch to SMS from Hangout message.
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I'll have a look to see if that works.
KinghtMare. said:
This app simply uses the word "Hangouts" over "SMS" so basically new hangout means new text message unless you specify a hangout chat. If the actual hangouts for either is unavailable then a text message will be automatically sent to the number. New "SMS" is the plus button and you can immediately type the number or scroll to find your contact. Everything after seems to work just like iMessage.
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I've never had an iPhone, which I'm guessing from the name is where that messaging application comes from. I tried to send a message to a collegue, and it sent it as a hangout, not an SMS. There is no option not to send it as an hangout, any more so than there is an option to send the message as a hangout, so I can't send him text messages.

davekr said:
I'm not sure what problem you are having. I just got my N5 today and when I create a new message in Hangouts and choose a contact (one that has a gmail.com email address as well as a cell number) I have the choice between starting a chat or sending an SMS to the phone number. Do you not see this?
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Okay, yes, if I type in the person's name I now see several entries for the person, one is the Hangouts account which is top and the other is for SMS.
However, if I scroll down and select the person as I was doing originally, even though it says his phone number, it defaults to hangouts and you can't change it.
I don't have particularly many people in my contacts list so I prefer to scroll and select, as it's probably quicker for me, rather than type into the search box.

you need to verify your phone number before being able to use it for sms
hit the plus button and add a contact...then select the contact's name from the top of the screen (next to the green handouts icon), and choose their phone number instead of their email address
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n7of9 said:
you need to verify your phone number before being able to use it for sms
hit the plus button and add a contact...then select the contact's name from the top of the screen (next to the green handouts icon), and choose their phone number instead of their email address
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Quite aside from not wishing to verify my number with Google, I shouldn't have to. SMS should be completely devoid of this kind of requirement as it is very basic mobile phone functionality.
I have spent quite some considerable time today turning off location services and and any data sent back to Google. I've also been disabling certain Google Apps and would disable more if it would let me. I've also found that App Ops seems to have been disabled too, so I can't even control what third party apps do; which was part of the reason for getting a 4.3+ phone.
At the moment, it seems that I can send messages, and hopefully something like Contacts+ will be updated to work with 4.4 and I can then disable Hangouts.

you can disable hangouts now, you just need to install an alternative sms app if you don't like the default...try Handcent
and don't be angry when someone is trying to help you
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It's not hangout it's u
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digweed4me said:
It's not hangout it's u
If u don't know how to use hangout tell google to put out I message crap on your nexus 5
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two00lbwaster said:
Quite aside from not wishing to verify my number with Google, I shouldn't have to. SMS should be completely devoid of this kind of requirement as it is very basic mobile phone functionality.
I have spent quite some considerable time today turning off location services and and any data sent back to Google. I've also been disabling certain Google Apps and would disable more if it would let me. I've also found that App Ops seems to have been disabled too, so I can't even control what third party apps do; which was part of the reason for getting a 4.3+ phone.
At the moment, it seems that I can send messages, and hopefully something like Contacts+ will be updated to work with 4.4 and I can then disable Hangouts.
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So install your own SMS app...4.4 allows you to use any SMS app as the default App, and then you can even uninstall Hangouts if you want to.
That's the beauty of a Nexus device.

n7of9 said:
you can disable hangouts now, you just need to install an alternative sms app if you don't like the default...try Handcent
and don't be angry when someone is trying to help you
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Sorry, I'm just angry that Google have just foisted the Hangouts app onto 4.4 users when it clearly isn't user friendly enough and makes one of my most common uses of the phone difficult.
I'll try Handcent. Contacts+/Messages+ doesn't currently seem to support 4.4 as you can't set it as the default messaging application and you can't send outgoing messages (It looks like you can send messages but they just disappear and aren't sent.)
hotleadsingerguy said:
So install your own SMS app...4.4 allows you to use any SMS app as the default App, and then you can even uninstall Hangouts if you want to.
That's the beauty of a Nexus device.
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The issue that I'm having is that not a lot of messaging applications support 4.4 yet. And as I've found with Messages+ if it doesn't support it you can have issues with messages that don't send/disappear.
You can uninstall Hangouts updates, you can't uninstall it. And if you uninstall the updates, you can't disable it.

Sliding messaging was updated to be compatible with 4.4, you can try it out
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I'm with the OP on this, I received my N5 today and it's almost impossible to start a new SMS conversation from within the app.
The app itelf is quite nice, but the SMS experience is sub-standard to say the least. I know I can go install another SMS app - but that's not the point, it's like shipping the phone/software with no dialer in it.

Scottland said:
I'm with the OP on this, I received my N5 today and it's almost impossible to start a new SMS conversation from within the app.
The app itelf is quite nice, but the SMS experience is sub-standard to say the least. I know I can go install another SMS app - but that's not the point, it's like shipping the phone/software with no dialer in it.
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I must be a brain scientist or a rocket surgeon or something... all I had to do to create to new SMS was click the "+" then start typing my contact's name or number. If my contact has a phone number associated with it I can select that for an SMS or their email for a hangout message......

Im confused and whether i understand your question properly. Anyways in the actual recipients message you can click their name and switch from a SMS conversation to a google talk/hangouts message. Not sure if that helped or not. You can more clearly see what i am talking about in this video. http://youtu.be/0ZFc3NFqfFk

BmoreTHOR said:
I must be a brain scientist or a rocket surgeon or something... all I had to do to create to new SMS was click the "+" then start typing my contact's name or number. If my contact has a phone number associated with it I can select that for an SMS or their email for a hangout message......
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You must be
I've just tried to send an SMS to my mum, on her contact card she has a mobile number and email address. When I try to send a message, at the top I only have "Hangouts" as an option.
If I try another contact (who does have a G+ account), I have the option of SMS or Hangouts.

I also discovered Now SMS recently... Very nice looking simple UI that fits with recent Android conventions. Using it on my Nexus 7 3G since it didn't come with any SMS client.
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WatchIt notification tips?

I successfully updated my Samsung Galaxy SIII from a 4.1.2 ROM (BoneStock 3.4) to a TW 4.3 ROM (Mother of All ROMs, aka MOAR 7.1). After a few tries (resetting watch, deleting and reinstalling apps, and pairing, unpairing, repairing watch and phone) I was successful at getting the phone and watch to play nice with each other. So I installed WatchIt, gave it permissions on notifications under security. And now WatchIt and the watch is getting notifications. All sorts of notifications... and lots of them.
So I know I can go into my phone, and change preferences and "toasts" (btw, what is the difference between a notification and toast? Are toasts when it tells you to choose a setting, like selecting Switftkey as your keyboard?). Before I mess things up, I thought I would ask the many experts here running WatchIt which apps you disabled notifications (and toasts... what ever they are)?
EDIT: Since there is a really long list of apps to decide whether to ignore, allow notifications, allow toasts, or allow both... is there a faster easier method, eg ignore all, then allowing notifications from just the list of apps or services desired? Sorry if this has been asked and answered already.
It also mentions DayDream as a way to configure... any info and guidance on this would be much appreciated! Also, any apps you think work really well with WatchIt (like... ways to get NBA, NFL, and MLB scores).
Many thanks in advance!!

And I feel dumb replying to my question... but I was able to figure out how to disallow all notifications, then allowing notifications from the apps I wanted. But I must not have it correctly set up, since when I had someone send me a test text message, I only got a WatchIt notification that I received a text message... but not the text message itself on the watch. Did I make a mistake with a setting, either on the phone, the watch, or both?
btw, I found a sports score app on the PlayStore called 365Scores that seems to be very well-reviewed. So hopefully that sends the scores of my favorite teams (selected in the app) to my watch.

Nomad1600 said:
And I feel dumb replying to my question... but I was able to figure out how to disallow all notifications, then allowing notifications from the apps I wanted. But I must not have it correctly set up, since when I had someone send me a test text message, I only got a WatchIt notification that I received a text message... but not the text message itself on the watch. Did I make a mistake with a setting, either on the phone, the watch, or both?
btw, I found a sports score app on the PlayStore called 365Scores that seems to be very well-reviewed. So hopefully that sends the scores of my favorite teams (selected in the app) to my watch.
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You dont need to use watchit for sms. Just use the messaging app from Sony and use watchit only for apps that dont have apps for sw2 and/or you want to receice some notifies.
If you still want to use watchit for sms, have you tried differend setting for it? "show both" (watchit - app setting - sms -> "show both"). Im not sure does it work, I use Sony messaging for sms.
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enigma_x said:
You dont need to use watchit for sms. Just use the messaging app from Sony and use watchit only for apps that dont have apps for sw2 and/or you want to receice some notifies.
If you still want to use watchit for sms, have you tried differend setting for it? "show both" (watchit - app setting - sms -> "show both"). Im not sure does it work, I use Sony messaging for sms.
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First ff, thanks for the reply. And yes, that makes sense, so I had Messaging, Gmail, and any other extension ignored and the only apps that it now receives notifications for is the stock Email app and the new Sports app. I will use the previous extensions I had successfully used when I was on the 4.1.2 ROM. I verified that text messages now go through and pop up on the watch.
I also tried an email... and that didn't. Will I receive the actual emails via WatchIt? If not, will switching to a different email client like K9 work? On the prior ROM, I had my "stock" (Comcast) emails go to my Gmail account, which then was seen by the watch. So worst case I can go back to that approach.
Will any of the notifications (eg from the new sports app) show up on the watch? Not just a "hey, you just got a notification from 365Sports", but the actual score of the game its reporting?
Again, thanks for the help!!

A later update. Seems I can now get email notifications from the phone to the watch via WatchIt... but they seem to come as a group of emails (three or four at a time), only the email title and sender. As such its not as useful as when I was getting my mail routed through Gmail.
And... it appears that the Gmail extension may not work with 4.3 (at least that is what one review of the app in Play Store said). So going from 4.1.2 to 4.3 in order to use WatchIt does not appear to have been a good move.
I will try switching to K9 as my email client and then try the K9 extension. That combo didn't work for me when I was on 4.1.2 (so I instead routed the email to Gmail).
Anyone running a 4.3 ROM and is using WatchIt to get emails via their "stock" Android email client? Any advice or steps I may be missing to get this to see emails? I hate to think I will need to go back to 4.1.2 after all this...

Gosh, this has been a struggle. The Gmail extension does work with my new 4.3 ROM. So here is the work around I came up with. Using Gmail to get the mail from my Comcast account, then it goes to a K9 account on my phone, then to the K9 extension. It appears to catch and display the email on my phone.
Still can't seem to get scores notifications from 365 Sports app.
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Anybody know how to fix the text wrap issue or another app that has that issue fixed
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Latest update... I seem to have gotten WatchIt to work. I have it delivering Sports 365 notifications to the watch (neat app, btw, as it includes a whistle on the phone notification). And, I am getting email notifications, including the full email but only if it only notifies on a single email. If multiple emails come in... they all get notified at once, and only a list of he emails.
Is there something I can do to force it to notify each email separately?
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[APP] SW2 Notifier.Send all of your phone notifications to the watch

Hi!
In the last month we developed an app to send all the notifications that your phone receives to the smartwatch2.
It uses NotificationListener Service instead of Accesibility, so it only works on Android 4.3
Personally, Accesibility permissions are very compromising for an app that only send notifications to the watch, and that's why we started developing an app using the new NotificationListener Service.
The app will grab all the text of the notification (not only the tickerText) and will send it to your phone. You can also mute some applications (i.e. PowerToggles post notifications every few seconds) and set a period of time when no notifications will be sent to your phone (ie. During the night)
The link to the app is:
Mod edit: Removed paid app link
We also have a Free version of the app. In this version you won't get all the text in the notification in your phone, you'll only get tickerText and you cannot set periods of "Do not disturb"
Hope you find it useful.

Hi!
I tried many different apps that bring notifications to the sony smartwatch. I'm currently using a HTC ONE with Sense 5.5/Kitkat 4.4.2 and most of the notification-apps have at least one of the following problems:
-) no smilies in whatsapp notifications
-) the sense mail app groups notifications as soon as there is more than one at a time, so if I get one email and 5min later another one, the notification on the phone and on the watch as well just shows me something like:
sender1
subject1
sender2
subject2
but I can not access the content of the emails... the content is only available as long as there just one new email... I don't know if the notification app can do anything about that, but it's something that bothers me
-) some apps don't allow me to exclude certain services like the htc backup service from notifying me on the watch because there is no dedicated app for that
-) some apps don't allow me to scroll through longer notifications
what about your app?
greetings
MJFox

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MJFox78 said:
Hi!
I tried many different apps that bring notifications to the sony smartwatch. I'm currently using a HTC ONE with Sense 5.5/Kitkat 4.4.2 and most of the notification-apps have at least one of the following problems:
-) no smilies in whatsapp notifications
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AFAIK, SW2 doesn't have Emoji in its charset, so any notification app won't show that emoji characters. We are working in a workaround transforming some emoji in an alternative which can be shown by the watch
MJFox78 said:
-) the sense mail app groups notifications as soon as there is more than one at a time, so if I get one email and 5min later another one, the notification on the phone and on the watch as well just shows me something like:
sender1
subject1
sender2
subject2
but I can not access the content of the emails... the content is only available as long as there just one new email... I don't know if the notification app can do anything about that, but it's something that bothers me
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Our app will send to the watch all the text contained in the notifications, instead of sending only the abbreviated text which is what some other apps do.
This was one of the motivation behind our app. We wanted to read the whole email in our watch so we developed SW2 Notifier
I cannot tell you about HTC sense mail app, but I can read full mail text in Gmail, Google's mail app and CloudMagic (which are the clients I use). I think that the situation will be the same in HTC sense clients, but I cannot tell you 100% how that will work.
MJFox78 said:
-) some apps don't allow me to exclude certain services like the htc backup service from notifying me on the watch because there is no dedicated app for that
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You can select which application notifies you in the watch and which not. You can leave htc backup service out, and it won't send any notification to your watch. So that's a yes, you can filter out any app you want.
MJFox78 said:
-) some apps don't allow me to scroll through longer notifications
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If I understood you well, yes you can scroll it long way down in the text of the notification. I.e, If you receive, let's say 10, messages in Hangouts, you can read them all.
MJFox78 said:
what about your app?
greetings
MJFox
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Hope it will make things clear now , If you have another question don't hesitate to ask!
Moreover, we are still adding new features to the app, so if you have any feature request, please tell us!
thanks!

thanks a lot for your detailed answer!
robjperez said:
AFAIK, SW2 doesn't have Emoji in its charset, so any notification app won't show that emoji characters. We are working in a workaround transforming some emoji in an alternative which can be shown by the watch
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there are 2 or 3 notifications app that show emojis in whatsapp notifications, so somehow it's possible
robjperez said:
Hope it will make things clear now , If you have another question don't hesitate to ask!
Moreover, we are still adding new features to the app, so if you have any feature request, please tell us!
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thanks a lot, I will try the free version of your app and give some feedback in this thread soon
greetings
MJFox

I just tried out your app and here's my feedback:
-) it would be great to have an option to define if the notifier should by default enable notifications for a new app-notification or not (as it is now you have to disable each app you don't want to get notifications from and you have to wait until you receive a notification from that app, so for a while you will have to open the settings over and over again to remove an app from the whitelist)
-) unfortunately I have the same problem as with all the other notification apps when I receive two or more notifications about new emails, attached you see two screenshots that show what I mean... as you can see the watch just shows me that I got two emails from "Kamil" and both have the subject "Test2" (if you scroll down on the watch you see just another line telling me that Kamil sent an email with the subject "Test2"), but I can not see the content of the emails (the content is only visible when I have just one email-notification)... this happens with the HTC-mail-client and with the default android-client as well... maybe the notifications-grouping is a sense feature?
greetings
MJFox

MJFox78 said:
I just tried out your app and here's my feedback:
-) it would be great to have an option to define if the notifier should by default enable notifications for a new app-notification or not (as it is now you have to disable each app you don't want to get notifications from and you have to wait until you receive a notification from that app, so for a while you will have to open the settings over and over again to remove an app from the whitelist)
-) unfortunately I have the same problem as with all the other notification apps when I receive two or more notifications about new emails, attached you see two screenshots that show what I mean... as you can see the watch just shows me that I got two emails from "Kamil" and both have the subject "Test2" (if you scroll down on the watch you see just another line telling me that Kamil sent an email with the subject "Test2"), but I can not see the content of the emails (the content is only visible when I have just one email-notification)... this happens with the HTC-mail-client and with the default android-client as well... maybe the notifications-grouping is a sense feature?
greetings
MJFox
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Thanks for trying the app and thanks for the feedback!!
We take note about that, we'll add that option to settings, in order to deactivate notifications by default.
About the other comment, did you try Free or Paid version?, In Free version we don't send all text of the notification to the watch only what Android calls "ticker text" which is the text you can read in the notification bar when you receive a notification.
In the PRO version, we send all the text which is contained in the notification (if you swipe down in the notification it will expand and will show extra text, and all that text is what we send to the watch).
I use Google's default mail client (have a nexus) and even though in the notification bar i cannot read whole text, in the watch I can read all the email.

I tried the paid version, it looks like as soon as there is more than one email notification the notification doesn't contain the email text anymore but just the sender and subject of each email
greetings
MJFox
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Hi,
I bought the PRO app yesterday, and from a quick test I am very satisfied with it. My biggest problem with others was that they couldn't show extended notifications of Hangouts, and this one does it nicely.
So, great job!
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Yup, I can avoid installing 2 or 3 apps by using this one. I am liking it!
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Congrats on the development and thanks for contributing to the SW2 community.
I am experimenting with the Pro version. Interesting the way you need to turn off notifications only after your phone/watch have a notification from that app or service (as opposed to WatchIt where you can do so when you first install WatchIt). I am running 4.3 on my phone, so I reckon I am the right target market.
Does seem to show more content on some notifications, but like others have also reported, if your phone gets a number of emails and notifications at the same time, SW2 Notifier only lists them out and provides the same amount of content in the list as WatchIt. Same is true with Google+.
Its a small $ investment and hopefully encourages people to develop for the platform, and its a nice looking extension. Don't know if it is enough of a difference to get someone who already has WatchIt to switch to SW2 Notifier. Since WatchIt is free I believe, and also works well with 4.3 phones (benefiting from same notification access), I think the SW2 Developers need to do something more to replace WatchIt.
btw, I am still trying to find the perfect notification extension. I use a few (WatchIt, Watchify, SW2 Notifier) to receive email, Gmail, and Google+, and the stock extensions to get Twitter, Facebook, Messaging, Slideshow, RSS, Missed Call, Music Player, Calendar Reminder. Seems the stock extensions that are dedicated to a type of notification still seem to work a bit better than the WatchIts and other broder notification extensions. Fortunately the SW2does not limit the number of extensions (apps) like Pebble does.

A suggestion would be good to select what notifications you want upfront as opposed to case by case as they come in.

Trying the free version. It's splendid so far. One "issue" I have is that I use Hangout and when a person sends me one message, its fine but if they send another afterwards and I didn't check the first, it comes up as 2 messages.
It would be nice if either my phone or watch could read the messages seperately but it doesn't which is a bummer. Other than that, its great!

ok, I've bought pro version, but it is as good as annoying. After 15 minutes of working I can have over 30 messages on my watch. Offcourse I've switched off non neccesary notifications, but for example for deezer I've got triple multipled notifications. Also really annoying are 'ghost notifications'. On my phone i;ve got 0 notifications, but this app shows me some empty notifications without any message. How can I rid of that?

Thanks all for using the app. It started as a personal need for us but it turns out as a useful app for everyone. We are carefuly reading the comments in order to improve the app in future versions.
There are some interesting things we'd like to comment.
Teglas said:
A suggestion would be good to select what notifications you want upfront as opposed to case by case as they come in.
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Some other users have requested this also. We'll do it for the next version.
cerberusxd said:
Trying the free version. It's splendid so far. One "issue" I have is that I use Hangout and when a person sends me one message, its fine but if they send another afterwards and I didn't check the first, it comes up as 2 messages.
It would be nice if either my phone or watch could read the messages seperately but it doesn't which is a bummer. Other than that, its great!
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In Free version, the text sent to the watch is shorter than the paid version, sorry. In the paid version you should read the whole hangouts notification including messages.
duchian said:
ok, I've bought pro version, but it is as good as annoying. After 15 minutes of working I can have over 30 messages on my watch. Offcourse I've switched off non neccesary notifications, but for example for deezer I've got triple multipled notifications. Also really annoying are 'ghost notifications'. On my phone i;ve got 0 notifications, but this app shows me some empty notifications without any message. How can I rid of that?
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Thanks for the feedback, we've been noticing something similar. Android notification system is a little bit messy. Sometimes, the notification service notifies the app saying, "hey there is a new notification posted", but it is not. Filtering these notifications out without affecting some others is not so easy as it should be. We are working on that in order to provide a better experience.

Hi there, I bought youre PRO version, nice app, IMO only missing one feature, a feature that lets you set a delay between notifications of the same app, eg when a app fires multiple alerts, it would be nice to get only one buzz on your wrist
I agree to some previous post, have an option to have the new notification services disabled by default

So I've been using this app now for about five days. I've pretty much got most of the notification apps for the SW2 all except Watchit were unreliable. I'm glad to report that this app hasn't missed a beat. I've replaced Watchit with this one. I'm really looking forward to the updates! Finally a decent competitor to Watchit!

Hi, i send an email for you, i perchasede your great app, but this app has a problem and not good for persian and arabic language users, because this app cant show notification with persian/arabic language and show persian text like???? , another app like augmented smart watch pro show correctly persian text on smart watch 2, please add this feature in next version
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Since I just flashed a 4.4 ROM, does this also work for 4.4 (4.3 and newer)?
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Since I just flashed a 4.4 ROM, does this also work for 4.4 (4.3 and newer)?
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i have 4.4.2 and it works ok. Sometimes maybe a little bit too many notifications

Does this app currently support or plan to support in the future, features similar to those shown on Android Wear smartwatches. For example being able to select archive on gmail notifications.

Going insane. Please help Google assistant and SMS!

When I use Google assistant to send a message it randomly doesn't record the message in the text app. The recipient receives it ok but it doesn't show up.
I've tried about 10 other SMS apps they're the same.
Is there a problem with Huaweis app that Google assistant can't access? Any help please?

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When I use Google assistant to send a message it randomly doesn't record the message in the text app. The recipient receives it ok but it doesn't show up.
I've tried about 10 other SMS apps they're the same.
Is there a problem with Huaweis app that Google assistant can't access? Any help please?
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Not sure.. but with all Google apps I give them full control/permission and allow secondary launch etc.
Give that a try
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Permissions are all granted. What do you mean secondary launch? You mean try a different launcher?

Hello
do you mean that during recording the text doesn't show up , but once you leave the record button it goes to the recipient instantly without the ability to check it or what ? a pic might help as i didn't understand much

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Hello
do you mean that during recording the text doesn't show up , but once you leave the record button it goes to the recipient instantly without the ability to check it or what ? a pic might help as i didn't understand much
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Ah ok no it's simpler than that. Speech to text etc works fine.
The outgoing message does not appear in the messages or text app. For some reason Google assistant understands the speech and sends the text, but doesn't communicate with the SMS app to say "this is what I just sent so stick it in the convo list". Seems to bypass the SMS app and I've tried about10 of them now. Same problem each time.
I think it's confirmijg what I always thought i.e. android is a perpetually buggy unfinished system!

Hello again
-not sure - maybe these command may work
“Show me my messages”
also why not trying to check the messages with Hangouts that may help

Appreciate you trying to help.
The issue is that the outgoing messages don't show up at all when done from GA. In any app. Show me my messages whilst it might work is not an adequate solution as I shouldn't have to speak that into GA to see my full convos. That's what the apps are for.
BUT your suggestion was brilliant because I tried that and it shows received messages only (which isn't the issue).
So then I tried to say "show me my SENT messages" and surprisingly it did manage to show just the messages I'd sent BUT BIZARRELY IT MISSES OUT ANY MESSAGES SENT BY G.A.. !!????
So in summary it looks as though it sends messages fine but doesn't record it anywhere. When asked to tell me what it has sent it then seems to search the stock apps (that it doesn't communicate TO) and gives me that info only. So even GA doesn't know what it's sent ! Wtf??
(Hangouts doesn't seem to do SMS)

"The Assistant only uses Messenger as the outgoing source for SMS when Hangouts is the default. If you look in messenger you will see the text that you sent through the assistant. It is a bit defeatest from the standpoint of the Fi Hangouts integration and the team is aware."
this is from google forums and yes Hangouts show outgoing msgs

By messenger they mean what? Many apps seem to think they're called messenger.
As for hangouts it does nothing. Showing up only 4 convos and none of them are SMS convos. I've looked and looked and there is no option to integrate SMS into hangouts. I've given it all permissions too.
Are we on the same version of Mate 9 ? Am I missing something?

Open the Hangouts app .
At the top, tap Menu Menu.
Tap Settings and thenSMS and then SMS enabled.
Select the text messaging app you want as the default.
try this

I suspect we have different versions of hangouts. No such options in mine anywhere

``Show me my hangouts sms messages`` may help out a bit
i think also facebook messenger can help as it can read sms check it

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``Show me my hangouts sms messages`` may help out a bit
i think also facebook messenger can help as it can read sms check it
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nope my hangouts does nothing. doesnt support sms at all
fb messenger is evil, doesn't it drain masses of battery?

please change the message app to what you want to use and try again steps:
in your settings search for Default app settings then, change sms app, i think the default would be hangouts.

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please change the message app to what you want to use and try again steps:
in your settings search for Default app settings then, change sms app, i think the default would be hangouts.
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Thanks but despite having hangouts installed the only messaging app that comes up as an option is the stock Huawei message app. Hangouts isn't listed. There is also no setting anywhere within hangouts to use SMS. Our versions must be different. I have the latest version.

My bad, hangouts lost the integration long time ago :/
However did you but I want your to check the fb it it can detect the assistant out going messages, or else, if you didn't try Android Messages app please check it might help.

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My bad, hangouts lost the integration long time ago :/
However did you but I want your to check the fb it it can detect the assistant out going messages, or else, if you didn't try Android Messages app please check it might help.
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I thought the android messenger ap which is the one they want us to use now might work, but it sadly doesn't.
I'll trial it with facebook and let you know soon,
Thanks again for your efforts trying to help me out :good:

I'll try my best

Nope FB messenger doesn't record the outgoing text either. Huge flaw in Google assistant!!

I think they fixed it in latest update

email query please.

This may have been covered before, but i can't seem to find anything on it, so please forgive my ignorance if it has.
I have a S3 Gear Frontier, i have the stock email app on my watch, and use the same stock email with 4 different accounts set up on my phone and as my email hits my phone (S6 Edge) it hits my watch (Great!)
What i want to do is check the email via watch (without taking my phone out of my pocket) read it and delete it, But, go into my phone at a later stage and either reply, or move it to a desired set up folder, or delete if not required.
Can i do this? Is there an option to be able to delete it from watch and not from phone? Or am i missing something in settings on phone / watch?
Really appreciate any info on this one, thanks in advance
slimsta

Wow 32 Views and no-one can advise?

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Wow 32 Views and no-one can advise?
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I use aquamail as my main mail app and I can view all the emails, dismiss notifications and erase mails from the watch

Thanks for getting back, if you delete from aquamail does it still leave your email on the phone? Or does it delete on the phone aswell?

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Thanks for getting back, if you delete from aquamail does it still leave your email on the phone? Or does it delete on the phone aswell?
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Mails are deleted on the phone as well, and marked as read on aquamail when I open them on the phone

I use Aquamail. On Gear we have juste notification and notification action for each mail : Read, delete... You can not check (or view) your mail from the watch, just incoming notification.
With Samsung mail app we can view all the phone mail with the watch mail app.

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I use Aquamail. On Gear we have juste notification and notification action for each mail : Read, delete... You can not check (or view) your mail from the watch, just incoming notification.
With Samsung mail app we can view all the phone mail with the watch mail app.
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I check and view all my incoming mail from my watch. I can read the full email, dismiss notification or delete the message. Of course I can't access old mail, only the incoming messages

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I check and view all my incoming mail from my watch. I can read the full email, dismiss notification or delete the message. Of course I can't access old mail, only the incoming messages
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Yes just notification (like all other smartwatch) , no check mail in the mailbox like samsung mail app. And only few lines of the mail, not complete mail and often not enough to see what about mail.