Hi,
I am looking at installing Cyanogen on my Moto G XT1039. One of the reasons why is to reclaim resources used by unwanted Google apps, another is to get away from Google synchronising everything.
As I understand it, the Cyanogen ROM is essentially just the OS? I have seen reference to Gapps, which seems to add Google apps. Is it possible to pick & choose which Google apps to install? I want Maps & Play but not Newsstand, Music etc.
How can I find out what Google apps/services are essential (if any), or which ones are essential for things like Maps, speech recognition etc? For example, I have Calendar+, which I think just runs on Google Calendar, (although I didn't want this, I wanted a stand-alone calendar with no connection to Google's insidious synchronising etc)
mogmog2 said:
Hi,
I am looking at installing Cyanogen on my Moto G XT1039. One of the reasons why is to reclaim resources used by unwanted Google apps, another is to get away from Google synchronising everything.
As I understand it, the Cyanogen ROM is essentially just the OS? I have seen reference to Gapps, which seems to add Google apps. Is it possible to pick & choose which Google apps to install? I want Maps & Play but not Newsstand, Music etc.
How can I find out what Google apps/services are essential (if any), or which ones are essential for things like Maps, speech recognition etc? For example, I have Calendar+, which I think just runs on Google Calendar, (although I didn't want this, I wanted a stand-alone calendar with no connection to Google's insidious synchronising etc)
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Hi and welcome to XDA!
The rom comes with no gapps, not even google play services. If you install the pico gapps from opengapps.org you'll only get these:
Google system base, Google Play Store, Google Calendar Sync, and the following Play Store applications:
Google Package Installer (replaces stock/AOSP Package Installer)
Google Play services
Google Text-to-Speech
These are the only essential apps you need and you'll have to download everything else.
After getting the update V12.5.1.0.RGGCNXM (Android 11), all google mobile services (Ytube,GDrive,Gmail) in my redmi note 8 pro(chinese rom) stopped working. Is there a way to solve the problem or roll back to previous miui versions without unlocking bootloader?
My guess is you confuse Google Play services with Google Mobile Services:
Google Play services is used to update Google apps and apps from Google Play.
This component provides core functionality like authentication to your Google services, synchronized contacts, access to all the latest user privacy settings, and higher quality, lower-powered location based services.
What you're referrering to is obviously Google Mobile Services ( AKA GMS - formerly called GApps )
jwoegerbauer said:
My guess is you confuse Google Play services with Google Mobile Services:
Google Play services is used to update Google apps and apps from Google Play.
This component provides core functionality like authentication to your Google services, synchronized contacts, access to all the latest user privacy settings, and higher quality, lower-powered location based services.
What you're referrering to is obviously Google Mobile Services ( AKA GMS - formerly called GApps
jwoegerbauer said:
My guess is you confuse Google Play services with Google Mobile Services:
Google Play services is used to update Google apps and apps from Google Play.
This component provides core functionality like authentication to your Google services, synchronized contacts, access to all the latest user privacy settings, and higher quality, lower-powered location based services.
What you're referrering to is obviously Google Mobile Services ( AKA GMS - formerly called GApps )
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Thanks. Ive made the modification to the post.
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I have the exact same problem after upgrading to MIUI 12.5 with Chinese ROM. Every google app has stopped working (can open them but I get an endless spinning icon on YouTube, the splash screen on drive and the App Store will be shutdown immediately after launch.
Is there any workaround besides flashing and losing everything?
Hi, i was checking my data usage and while im a paranoid android regarding privacy i can ignore things like "Weather" apps using data, or system updates and OS and so on. However google play services uses data, even if a bit, on the regular. Why is that? I dont have any google account or service in my phone and i disabled the weird google antivirus play protect. Is this because of the base google services that i need for many apps to run?
A lot of Google apps are provided both by NikGapps (in the packages and as addons) and are available in the Play Store too.
I read that some apps have missing features when installed via the store: Search doesn't support voice activation ("ok google"), Maps doesn't support timeline history etc. I'm thus wondering:
Is there a list of which extra features you get, if you install the Google Apps via NikGapps as opposed to the Store?
And I ran into an issue related to this: I flashed NikGapps Core, then installed various apps via the Store. Maps' Timeline History wasn't working for me, so I was suggested to install GMaps from NikGapps. I uninstalled the Maps from store, flashed the NikGapps' one, but now Maps it's not working at all: even after force-stopping and clearing the app's cache and storage, Maps is not showing any map at all and doesn't work.
Can I fix it in any way? Or do I need to clean-flash my ROM and start over from scratch?
Start over from the scratch.
BTW:
The apps-package called NikGApps is softwares copyrighted by Google. Take note that Google name this softwares "GMS". GMS is not open-source. Instead, Google selectively licenses it to device manufacturers or OEMs for free, read: Device manufacturers require a license from Google in order to bundle GMS.
Installing GMS-apps via Google Play Store has the advantage that the apps get automatically updated if Google deem it necessary.
List of Core apps
Google Search
Google Chrome
YouTube
Google Play
Google Drive
Gmail
Google Duo
Google Maps
Google Photos
Google TV
YouTube Music
Which custom ROM can I use for OP9 that's similar to the privacy of GrapheneOS for Pixel? I still want to use Google services but I don't want them to gather my info.
With root you can remove Google Play Services and replace it with microG on any OS/ROM. Not as good as Graphene's Sandboxed Play Services but it works
JimmyL216 said:
Which custom ROM can I use for OP9 that's similar to the privacy of GrapheneOS for Pixel? I still want to use Google services but I don't want them to gather my info.
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dude, having gapps means all your data will be collected like it or not, just for use your android phone your data is collected
tutibreaker said:
dude, having gapps means all your data will be collected like it or not, just for use your android phone your data is collected
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Not sure if OP mean "GMS APIs" or "Google preinstalled apps". If you only use GMS APIs, you can swap Play Services and Play Store with microG and Aurora Store and use your phone without Google surveillance, while most 3rd-party apps that require GMS will still work.
If you use Google mobile apps, such as the default Calendar, Chrome, Clock, Contacts, Dialer, Docs, Drive, Files, Gmail, Search, Keep, Messages, News, Photos, Play Store, Podcasts, Recorder, Sheets, Slides, Translate (long list lol) then you are TRACKED and there's no way they won't gather your info
TrumpXi said:
Not sure if OP mean "GMS APIs" or "Google preinstalled apps". If you only use GMS APIs, you can swap Play Services and Play Store with microG and Aurora Store and use your phone without Google surveillance, while most 3rd-party apps that require GMS will still work.
If you use Google mobile apps, such as the default Calendar, Chrome, Clock, Contacts, Dialer, Docs, Drive, Files, Gmail, Search, Keep, Messages, News, Photos, Play Store, Podcasts, Recorder, Sheets, Slides, Translate (long list lol) then you are TRACKED and there's no way they won't gather your info
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If I did that would I still be able to get my purchased apps from Play or do I sacrifice those?
TrumpXi said:
Not sure if OP mean "GMS APIs" or "Google preinstalled apps". If you only use GMS APIs, you can swap Play Services and Play Store with microG and Aurora Store and use your phone without Google surveillance, while most 3rd-party apps that require GMS will still work.
If you use Google mobile apps, such as the default Calendar, Chrome, Clock, Contacts, Dialer, Docs, Drive, Files, Gmail, Search, Keep, Messages, News, Photos, Play Store, Podcasts, Recorder, Sheets, Slides, Translate (long list lol) then you are TRACKED and there's no way they won't gather your info
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Another question is if using a VPN prevents data from being collected?
JimmyL216 said:
Another question is if using a VPN prevents data from being collected?
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No
if you dont want to be tracked use a "dumb phone"