This is not a review on the Flip 3. There are so many reviews on it already and if I do one, it would probably like a rehash of what were said already.
There is something that I discovered that I have not seen others mention it. This is what I discovered. While the screen is really nice and video plays very smooth on it, the color is weird when viewed with polarized lens. I was using the Flip 3 outside on a sunny day wearing my Ray Ban. The display exhibit a rainbow hue. It does not matter if I wore a tan color, green color or gray color sunglasses. As long it is a pair of polarized sunglasses, the display would give this rainbow hue. I do have sunglasses that are not polarized and those works fine.
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Seeing your phone's screen while wearing sunglasses just takes one quick trick
As summer returns, it’s time to relax and read by the pool. So you pull out your phone, don your shades, and...you can’t see a thing on the screen. What gives?
www.popsci.com
Your gadgets contain polarizing filters, too. “These LCD screens are polarized to reduce glare, especially in bright sunlight—but so are sunglasses,” Patel says. “When the filters for the screen and sunglasses align in opposite directions, the light emanating from the screen with be cut out.” In other words, if the screen emits horizontally-vibrating light, and your sunglasses block all except vertically-vibrating light, no photons will get through and you’ll be stuck with a dark or entirely black image.
Some devices will experience this effect worse than others. Although a lot of higher-end devices have found ways to get around the issue altogether (like the current generation of iPhones, iPads, and Google Pixel phones), you’ll still notice it to some degree on many phones and tablets.
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It's because phone manufacturers / sunglasses manufacturers have realized their products were previously incompatible, but cannot fully remove any effect without ruining their own purpose.
twistedumbrella said:
Seeing your phone's screen while wearing sunglasses just takes one quick trick
As summer returns, it’s time to relax and read by the pool. So you pull out your phone, don your shades, and...you can’t see a thing on the screen. What gives?
www.popsci.com
It's because phone manufacturers / sunglasses manufacturers have realized their products were previously incompatible, but cannot fully remove any effect without ruining their own purpose.
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The Flip 3 display screen itself is not polarized. Light would not pass through two polarized lenses if they were placed at a certain angle. Polarized lenses are like horizontal blinds opened. This enable the polarized lenses to block reflection from below and rays from above. However, when two polarized lenses are positioned 90 degrees to each other. No light would pass through as one blocks the up and down light, the other blocks the left and right. Rotating the lenses would increase or decrease the light passing through. Some car instrument would have the polarized glass cover angled at 45 degree. This is a compromised to accommodate polarized sunglasses wearers and still reduce some glare. Tilting the head would either increase visibility or completely darken the instruments. Pilots do not wear polarized sunglasses for this very reason.
Tilting the Flip 3 90 degrees does not change the rainbow hue. I have a feeling there is some sort of coating that is applied on the plastic screen protector on the display.
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The Flip 3 display screen itself is not polarized.
Tilting the Flip 3 90 degrees does not change the rainbow hue. I have a feeling there is some sort of coating that is applied on the plastic screen protector on the display.
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Apologies for not reading the rest of the (quoted) post, but that isn't what I was saying. I was saying that phones used to be polarized, but they've made improvements to avoid the issue of becoming blacked out by being polarized themselves.
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Apologies for not reading the rest of the post, but that isn't what I was saying. I was saying that phones used to be polarized, but they've made improvements to avoid the issue of becoming blacked out by being polarized themselves.
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No apology needed. I was just saying that the Flip 3 display does not play well with polarized sunglasses. Before I posted this, I wore my polarized sunglasses to check on my other phones, iPad and TVs just to see if this rainbow hue would repeat. None of the other displays have this rainbow hue.
Are Your Polarized Lenses Playing Tricks On Your Eyes? Here's How They Work, And Why You Might Be Seeing Spots
Polarized lenses are known for causing some interesting visual phenomena. Here's what's going on.
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The rainbows you see with polarized glasses (or without) are a result of light being refracted, or bent as it passes through different mediums. When you see a rainbow in the sky after a storm, you're seeing sunlight passing through water in the air, which behaves a like a prism to separate white light into different frequencies. When you see a rainbow through your polarized glasses (like you might on a phone screen or a windshield) it's likely because another material is refracting the light, like a polymer coating on glass, or a tempered glass screen protector on your phone.
If you find the rainbows and dark spots too distracting, you can always keep a pair of non-polarized sunglasses for the times when you expect to be encounter a lot of screens or tempered glass. But otherwise, just enjoy the benefits of decreased glare and feel better knowing a little more about how it works!
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Are all of the other screens plastic with the same material of protector? The plastic is a big factor, but the protector also plays a part.
twistedumbrella said:
Are Your Polarized Lenses Playing Tricks On Your Eyes? Here's How They Work, And Why You Might Be Seeing Spots
Polarized lenses are known for causing some interesting visual phenomena. Here's what's going on.
www.bicycling.com
Are all of the other screens plastic with the same material of protector? The plastic is a big factor, but the protector also plays a part.
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The TVs and my MBP has no screen protectors. The iPad has glass screen protector. The Samsung Pad and my Samsung S8+ has matt film protectors. My other phone has glass screen protector. None has this rainbow hue. This is why I think it is the plastic protector on the Flip 3 is the cupid. Not very scientific just a guess. LOL!
It is what it is. I just need to start wearing my other non-polarized sunglasses or I’ll just take of my polarized sunglasses when I read the screen on the Flip 3.
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I was looking at the Nexus S at Bestbuy and I was wondering...with the curve... is the screen itself flat or does screen also have a curve?
Just glass not screen.
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I was looking at the Nexus S at Bestbuy and I was wondering...with the curve... is the screen itself flat or does screen also have a curve?
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the case and the protective glass are curved
the SAMOLED display is flat
that's why you should expect to have some touch sensitive UNresponses near the bottom of the most curved part
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the case and the protective glass are curved
the SAMOLED display is flat
that's why you should expect to have some touch sensitive UNresponses near the bottom of the most curved part
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this is the most frustrating part of this damn phone. I don't see the benefit of the curved screen. non curved screens have worked fine on every other phone....all it does is affect the touch screen.
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AllGamer said:
the case and the protective glass are curved
the SAMOLED display is flat
that's why you should expect to have some touch sensitive UNresponses near the bottom of the most curved part
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Are you sure that the SAMOLED is flat? My understanding of SAMOLED screens is that there is no glass between the screen and the touch surface as there is in most typical touchscreen devices (Wikipedia confirms and the Engadget review directly states "Curved Super AMOLED") Looking at the screen from the side, I can see my background curving and I cannot reproduce the "UNresponses" on either the top or the bottom of my device or my wife's.
Wikipedia said:
Super Active-Matrix Organic Light-Emitting Diode or Super AMOLED is a display technology for use in mobile devices such as mobile phones. It differs from many other display technologies in that the layer which detects touch is integrated into the screen rather than being overlaid on top.
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a 4-inch, 800 x 480 curved Super AMOLED display (dubbed the Contour Display)
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I'm not an expert, but I'd venture a guess that given that information saying the entire screen is curved is a safe bet.
Screen is flat. Nexus S screen sideview:
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Flat one is a screen, curved one is touch sensitive glass.
jaker.the.skater said:
this is the most frustrating part of this damn phone. I don't see the benefit of the curved screen. non curved screens have worked fine on every other phone....all it does is affect the touch screen.
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I think the curved screen looks GREAT, and gives the phone a distinctive look that no other phone in its class has.
There's certainly one small advantage to the curved screen...if you drop the phone or lay it on a table face down, the bulk of the screen cannot touch the surface and get marred. On the other hand, I suspect someone will say that it's worse for that because the impact on a drop is placed in a smaller area and increases risk of shatter. I'm not a glass engineer, so I don't really know if that's true or not, but it would make sense.
re: curved
if you use s strong flash light you can see the difference
or if you take the phone apart, or you can simply refer to artukas613 picture
AllGamer said:
re: curved
if you use s strong flash light you can see the difference
or if you take the phone apart, or you can simply refer to artukas613 picture
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I just used my LED flashlight and I couldn't see it. Also, I can't find where that picture was from and I'm always weary of sources I can't check.
I found this: http://http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/09/samsung-super-amoled-explained-in-pretty-moving-pictures-video/ which states that:
t's thinner since the touch sensors are now integrated into the display
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And this: http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus-S-Teardown/4365/1 but it has no side view pictures of the screen but from what I can tell, it looks super thin which goes against the other posted pictures.
As I said before, all of this to me indicates that the entire screen is curved as I cannot reproduce any touch "UNresponses", I still maintain I can see my background curve, everything I've read indicates that a SAMOLED is a SAMOLED because the touch sensor is built into the screen and not on top of it, and I can''t see a difference with a powerful flashlight.
artukas613 said:
Screen is flat. Nexus S screen sideview:
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THIS
Screen is not curved just protective glass
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And this: http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus-S-Teardown/4365/1 but it has no side view pictures of the screen
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look at page 2 on that link there is side view
[on topic bit]
that's what google is for
here let me do some home work for you http://lmgtfy.com/?q=nexus+s+ifixit+Step+13
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the world is coming to an end if people continues in this path of skepticism
and i'm not even into any religion, i only believe in science and the super natural, and aliens and money, even though i hate money, the this human world don't function without a coin
this world we live in is like a carousel, if yo don't add coins, it'll stop running
Go to page two of ifixits teardown and you will see the photo that was posted above.
The screen is flat and the glass with touch is curved.
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LOL we all replied at the same time with the same answer
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THIS
Screen is not curved just protective glass
look at page 2 on that link there is side view
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I see, I did not see a second page. I was wrong.
Not really sure why allgamer had to "do my home work for me" with lmgtfy as I posted the link to the website, I just didn't see the second page. It would have wasted a lot less of your time if you had just said "Look on the second page" as demo23019. I don't generally care about teardowns so I have never looked at one before.
And actually, skepticism is what holds the world together. If people hadn't questioned what was beyond the horizon we wouldn't have ever left Africa. What you said clashed with what I understood so I explained why it didn't make sense and posted where my knowledge came from. If you can't handle someone questioning something that doesn't make sense to them in an adult manner, that is your own failing, not mine.
woops wrong thread...ignore
This thread is cursed, I feel another cleanup coming on, lol
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Hello, I just put my screen protector on and figured I would share my story with you. Hopefully it will help some of you choose your screen protector as I have noticed my experience does not align with those from a year ago on different phones.
tl;dr summery located at the bottom.
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I bought my pack off Amazon from america and the delivery was relatively quick considering, I believe it took 7 working days. Inside you will find two screen guards, a cloth and a tiny credit card shaped piece of plastic.
You are given the cloth so that you can wipe the screen clear of fingerprints and dust but I would strongly recommend against using it. It malts as you use it and thus just covers the screen with fluff. Instead I would suggest you use a glasses cloth. The tiny card supplied to push air bubbles out is also downsized from previous products and too flimsy to be of any use, use your fingernail to push out air bubbles instead.
The result of using the cloth to clean on my first attempt in fact ended up with me putting my screen protector on over a tiny piece of fluff which quickly resulted in that one being scrapped, luckily you are given two.
Upon installation of my second screen protector, having used a glasses cloth instead, I discovered that it fits extremely tightly. Previous versions of this same cover for other phones have reported to have a slight gap around the outside to leave for error. This is not the case with the DHD.
Thankfully the screen protector does not use glue and thus you can use cellotape to lift it off the screen and try again. It took over five attempts for me to minimize the air bubbles to just very small bits in the top right and bottom left hand corners. While this is not perfect I could not bare to try again having come so close. I believe it is possible to get it to sit flush without air bubbles, but the precision needed is far greater than it has been for previous products and as a result you may find your self settling for second best.
Looking head on at the screen there is no noticeable shift in colour, however from a side angle the colours look slightly more washed out than usual. This should however not be of concern as there is no reason why you would be wanting to view your phone from such an angle.
I have been unable to reproduce the rainbow effect and have also noticed no realistic difference in glare from the standard screen, despite the product's box claiming it has anti glare. I would however say that it has reduced fingerprint smears, which is much appreciated.
The overall feel of the screen is not too dissimilar from the glass it's self. While at first I noticed a slight bit of extra drag, having used it for another 10 minutes this feel has quickly decayed. I would hedge my bets and say after a few days of use I would not be able to notice any difference between it being on or off the screen. Furthermore the screen protector is extremely clear, perhaps the best I have ever seen. This is likely due to it being only 0.1mm thick.
Summary (tl;dr):
- The cloth supplied should be avoided and the card supplied to remove air bubbles is too flimsy to do the job.
- The screen protector fits very tightly round the edge, requiring a lot of precision to put it on without air bubbles. This is a change from previous designs for other phones which left a gap, which would most certainly be welcomed on the DHD model.
- The screen protector can be taken off and put back on as many times as you wish (within reason) while installing due to the fact it doesn't use glue.
- The protector it's self is extremely clear, showing no signs of altering colours or rainbowing accept for when viewed at an angel the colours are slightly more washed out than usual. This should not be an issue however.
- The feel of the protector is very close to the feel of glass and I would argue you couldn't get any closer. After a few days of use you will not even know you have it on your screen.
Overall Conclusion:
Would I buy it again?
Yes. If it was made slightly smaller so that there was a gap around the outside it might well be as perfect as you could get for a screen protector.
Hope this helped, if it has hit the thanks
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The two tiny air bubbles have almost all but gone now, they appear to be getting rid of them selves and I can safely say that I truly couldn't actually tell you if you removed this filter without me knowing. It feels so close to glass that without a direct comparison you wouldn't know.
is it really that different getting rid of air bubbles on a high quality screen protector compared to a cheap one?
I have a cheap one. When I applied it there were a few bubbles but I just smooshed them out and it was perfect! (got one tiny fiber under there though... )
KillerBunnys122 said:
is it really that different getting rid of air bubbles on a high quality screen protector compared to a cheap one?
I have a cheap one. When I applied it there were a few bubbles but I just smooshed them out and it was perfect! (got one tiny fiber under there though... )
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Air bubbles are only hard to get out when the protector isn't put on perfectly, if it is too close to the edge it will prevent you from getting air bubbles out and if you have a very large air bubble it is likely because the protector is in fact over the edge.
Getting air bubbles out of the sedio screen guard was easy, however the problem is that it is such a tight fit that you will struggle with them unless you get it perfect. I have however been inpressed by the fact that my two tiny air bubbles are slowly going away. I couldn't get rid of them my self and I tried very hard.
I would say that air bubbles are likely easier to get rid of out of the expensive ones because they likely will not use any form of glue to stick it to the screen and thus the air bubbles are likely more free to move under the surface.
Might I stress these really are small air bubbles I had, but it did take about 5 attempts to put it on with such small ones.
I noticeced when using my phone as a GPS when driving, the screen appears purple when turned sideways. Yes, I have uv sunglasses on. This normal with a LCD display? It almost gets too dark to see what's on display.
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Its not from UV sunglasses its from polarized sunglasses. Cell phone screens are polarized so that they are easier to see in direct sunlight so when you wear polarized sun glasses it has that effect on the screen.
Mine does have some blue tint when watching off-angle (>50 degrees).
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Its not from UV sunglasses its from polarized sunglasses. Cell phone screens are polarized so that they are easier to see in direct sunlight so when you wear polarized sun glasses it has that effect on the screen.
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Yes about sunglass being horizontally polarized and also, all lcd's are polarized on their own. Proof for this is if you look at your monitor, put on polariods, then rotate the polaroids 90 degrees. At that point, since the lcd is horizontally polarized and the polaroids at the 90 degree position will be vertically polarized, all light will be blocked and the lcd that is displaying something will appear to be blank (black).
The purple is because its an H-IPS screen, nothing to do with your sunglasses or Polaroids. FWIW LG is the by far the worlds largest IPS manufacturer, with Panasonic rushing in to IPS to replaces its dying Plasma market. Panasonic bought all of Hitachi's IPS technology recently.
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" S-IPS/H-IPS (In Plane Switching) panels are generally considered the best overall LCD technology for image quality, color accuracy and viewing angles, but this comes at a price. They are well suited for graphics design and other applications which require accurate and consistent color reproduction. S-IPS panels offer the best viewing angles of any current LCD technology, with wide viewing angles up to 178 degrees.
S-IPS panels can be identified buy a slight purple hue on blacks when viewed from a wide angle. There are currently few manufacturers using S-IPS panels in comparison to the other panels types making choices limited and they often carry a premium price tag. H-IPS is a newer variation of S-IPS with a different pixel structure that improves contrast ratios and lowers pixel pitch to provide better picture quality.
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The purple is because its an H-IPS screen, nothing to do with your sunglasses or Polaroids. FWIW LG is the by far the worlds largest IPS manufacturer, with Panasonic rushing in to IPS to replaces its dying Plasma market. Panasonic bought all of Hitachi's IPS technology recently.
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S-IPS panels can be identified buy a slight purple hue on blacks when viewed from a wide angle. There are currently few manufacturers using S-IPS panels in comparison to the other panels types making choices limited and they often carry a premium price tag. H-IPS is a newer variation of S-IPS with a different pixel structure that improves contrast ratios and lowers pixel pitch to provide better picture quality.
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You dont know what you talking about, put on a pair of polarize glasses and look at any LCD screen sideways...
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You dont know what you talking about, put on a pair of polarize glasses and look at any LCD screen sideways...
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And you are saying its something other than black with polarized glasses? Yes if you turn two polarizers against each other, you get a complete blockage of light. The question was purple hue. That hue has nothing to do with Polaroid sunglasses. Try reading before spouting...you'll find if gives you more credibility.
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And you are saying its something other than black with polarized glasses? Yes if you turn two polarizers against each other, you get a complete blockage of light. The question was purple hue. That hue has nothing to do with Polaroid sunglasses. Try reading before spouting...you'll find if gives you more credibility.
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Actually if you stack polaroids you will get a purple hue.
I actually just did this recently in an experiment in my physics class lol
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Actually if you stack polaroids you will get a purple hue.
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Perpendicular Polaroids should give you black as in
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what was given the hue, what you looked at through?....or you looking at the polarizers?
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Perpendicular Polaroids should give you black as in
what was given the hue, what you looked at through?....or you looking at the polarizers?
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Yes when 2. polarizers of matching polarization axis are perpendicular they block out all light. But I was just messing around and stacked some polarizers on top of each other(I forget the exact orientation but they weren't perpendicular) and when I looked through the polarizers there was a purple hue which got darker with more polarizers. I'm not really sure what this is from because it wasn't part of the lab assignment. Just a random observation I made.
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And you are saying its something other than black with polarized glasses? Yes if you turn two polarizers against each other, you get a complete blockage of light. The question was purple hue. That hue has nothing to do with Polaroid sunglasses. Try reading before spouting...you'll find if gives you more credibility.
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You obviously have never driven a car with tinted windows while wearing polarized sun glasses. It causes a rainbow effect on the other cars you see through the tinted windows. I can look at my phones screen while wearing polarized sunglasses at any angle with out it going black, but when I look at it landscape it is a little darker and causes the same rainbow effect that the tinted windows do.
Because of the curved glass of the P30 Pro, conventional screen protectors don't really work and so relatively recently there have been these newer LOCA-based ones that require the user to apply a layer of glue on the phone screen before attaching the screen protector and then curing the adhesive with a UV lamp.
Personally I've tried using them on my P30 Pro but there's this strange bubble issue and I wanted to ask if anyone else encountered this and if there's a way to avoid it.
When I apply the screen protector, there are no bubbles in the adhesive under the glass. When I initially cure it with the UV lamp, it solidifies just as expected and the screen protector anneals as intended. But I notice that within 24 hours of application, small bubbles start to form near the edges of the screen protector where there were initially none. These bubbles aren't in contact with the very edge, they seem to form in the MIDDLE of the adhesive NEAR the edges so it's not caused by air leaking. Within 3 days, these bubbles expand into unsightly lines that stretch along the length of the phone. I've tried 2 different brands and it happens every time I apply one of these screen protectors.
What's causing these bubbles to form, and is there any way to avoid it?
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Because of the curved glass of the P30 Pro, conventional screen protectors don't really work and so relatively recently there have been these newer LOCA-based ones that require the user to apply a layer of glue on the phone screen before attaching the screen protector and then curing the adhesive with a UV lamp.
Personally I've tried using them on my P30 Pro but there's this strange bubble issue and I wanted to ask if anyone else encountered this and if there's a way to avoid it.
When I apply the screen protector, there are no bubbles in the adhesive under the glass. When I initially cure it with the UV lamp, it solidifies just as expected and the screen protector anneals as intended. But I notice that within 24 hours of application, small bubbles start to form near the edges of the screen protector where there were initially none. These bubbles aren't in contact with the very edge, they seem to form in the MIDDLE of the adhesive NEAR the edges so it's not caused by air leaking. Within 3 days, these bubbles expand into unsightly lines that stretch along the length of the phone. I've tried 2 different brands and it happens every time I apply one of these screen protectors.
What's causing these bubbles to form, and is there any way to avoid it?
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got any screenshots? i got like a bubble running in the corners too, so far the best protection I got is the spigen neo flex, our phone is not meant for tempered due to curve glass
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got any screenshots? i got like a bubble running in the corners too, so far the best protection I got is the spigen neo flex, our phone is not meant for tempered due to curve glass
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I didn't take any pictures of mine, but here's a good example I found on Reddit:
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In the end I got a G-Color screen protector from Amazon and applied it myself. It's been a week and so far everything is good with no emerging bubbles. It seems there are several factors that cause emerging bubbles, like tiny dust particles in the glue or applying the glass slightly off-centre from the phone so that the screen's curved glass is an uneven distance from the screen protector.
Try looking and researching for Mocoll tempered glass screen protector for p30 pro. Seems to work well, fully adhesive.
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I didn't take any pictures of mine, but here's a good example I found on Reddit:
In the end I got a G-Color screen protector from Amazon and applied it myself. It's been a week and so far everything is good with no emerging bubbles. It seems there are several factors that cause emerging bubbles, like tiny dust particles in the glue or applying the glass slightly off-centre from the phone so that the screen's curved glass is an uneven distance from the screen protector.
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I have the G-Color UV one and it works really well. No edge lifting at all, and fits my Spigen Hybrid case too.
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I find these Loca glue type of screen protector good to hide scratches...
Hi guys i have a question S22 ultra camera lens protector does affect image quality? Anyone have done comparision? Do you have pictures? Have a nice weekend.
Yes it will degrade the image; refraction, ghosting, and possibly other optical anomalies.
The phone already has a lense protectors built into the rear cover. They are replaceable if damaged. Use a case with a raised guard to protect them. Clean with a dry microfiber cloth.
Would you recommend any good case? Spigen thin fit is fine?
v1rooz said:
Would you recommend any good case? Spigen thin fit is fine?
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Zizo Bolt, excellent drop protection, doesn't attract dirt, grippy, easy to clean.
The screen protector may be a toss, don't know.
The case kick stand tends to break but doesn't effect protection. It all I use on my N10+'s, zero damage. It will soak up a 2-4 foot concrete corner hit with ease. Good spen corner protection.
Thx for reply, im looking for something not that fancy looking. Actually im using spigen thin fit with esr lens protector and im just thinking about removing esr. Im just curious if thin fit from spigen is enought to cover and protect camera lenses well.
v1rooz said:
Thx for reply, im looking for something not that fancy looking. Actually im using spigen thin fit with esr lens protector and im just thinking about removing esr. Im just curious if thin fit from spigen is enought to cover and protect camera lenses well.
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Forget how it looks. That's a very heavy phone that loves to corner hit when dropped and face plant. The Bolt isn't that thick and easy to hold.
It won't come apart in a multiple impact drop.
It protects the mobo, cams, etc from damaging high G loads. Hasn't marred my frame rails in over 2 years of use... I live in the desert and it's dusty.
I have the spigeon and it's pretty decent but I think the TORRAS Clear case is much more protection and is more comfortable in the hands. It feels literally like air bags. Camera protection is good with that case too. I only use spigeon for the kickstand. For screen protectors I find the EGV Screen protectors to be the best out of all the ones I've found. As of right now I'm not using a screen protector because all of them have a negative effect on spen performance or cause issues when swiping text on keyboard. The screen feels very good to the touch when it's naked.
I Don't see any differences with or without lenses.
Will try in the night too.
Spoiler: with or without lenses
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I used mocolo camera protect in Note 9 and photo quality were worse. Next i tryied protect cameras island in Fold 2 and too i saw worse photo quality, especially in evening or night.
So now i don't use any camera protection and i am happy with full photo quality without scratichng on the camera island/lenses.
I use the ESR lens protectors. No issues in 3 months, day or night. There are reviews on Youtube comparing the lens covers with and without and results are exactly the same.
Yes it affect image quality. Not so much but still affect.
ZayaanAhyaan said:
I use the ESR lens protectors. No issues in 3 months, day or night. There are reviews on Youtube comparing the lens covers with and without and results are exactly the same.
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Have you that youtube link? I cannot find it
v1rooz said:
Have you that youtube link? I cannot find it
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From my personal experience, the lens protections aren't altering a lot the pictures quality, if they do, it's so slight that I've never noticed anything that would make me suspicious.
Monipeev said:
I Don't see any differences with or without lenses.
Will try in the night too.
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Try shooting at the longest telephoto setting with and without a camera lens protector. You'll see differences.
I got these and I have not noticed any degradation in image quality. Sorry if that defies your physics. I've taken shots of the moon that don't look any different before I had the camera protectors on the phone. None of the photos I've taken show any artifacts.
I don't like scratches on my camera glasses, and I don't think it's not cheap to replace them either once scratched.
Jaxom84 said:
From my personal experience, the lens protections aren't altering a lot the pictures quality, if they do, it's so slight that I've never noticed anything that would make me suspicious.
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Are they coated with an anti reflective coating to prevent ghosting? What about flaring?
Is the protector perfectly flat?
Otherwise it will cause optical aberrations.
Even if all the above conditions aren't a concern you will create refraction that doesn't need to be in the optical pathway. That will degrade the image in itself.
There's no sense in protecting the lense protector with a second one
Guard it with a case only.
You paid big bucks for this cam system that was carefully engineered. Why screw that up with unnecessary add ons?
blackhawk said:
Are they coated with an anti reflective coating to prevent ghosting? What about flaring?
Is the protector perfectly flat?
Otherwise it will cause optical aberrations.
Even if all the above conditions aren't a concern you will create refraction that doesn't need to be in the optical pathway. That will degrade the image in itself.
There's no sense in protecting the lense protector with a second one
Guard it with a case only.
You paid big bucks for this cam system that was carefully engineered. Why screw that up with unnecessary add ons?
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I use these : https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B09ZF1J3LC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1
Can't fight against my preventive side, even if I only drop a phone every 5 years.
Jaxom84 said:
I use these : https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B09ZF1J3LC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1
Can't fight against my preventive side, even if I only drop a phone every 5 years.
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I feel you. I hate when my phone gets marred.
This heavily N10+ is almost 3 yo and lives in the dusty desert. Not even a micro scratch on the lense protector that I can spot. Like on the S22U it's part of the rear cover. Sold separately too I believe.
The S22U is 30gm heavier than N10+, it's not going to like getting dropped. The only thing the N10+ likes to do more then corner hit when dropped is face plant. I use the Zizo Bolt, the phone is still in perfect condition. Without it this N10+ be toast.
Worry about and protect the stuff that's expensive and hard to replace; display, frame, and mobo.
For me personally it dose especially with the 10x .. but i rather lose quality then it breaks so