So I have the IN2017 TMobile OP8. I have the bootloader unlocked and rooted. I have been reading this forum for awhile now trying to see if I can use a custom ROM on my device, but some things I have read haven't been clearly answered or I've seen people say one thing and someone else says opposite.
First, can you convert the IN2017 to Global and what would be the benefits of doing so. Second, if it is possible, once it is converted am I able to then install TWRP or will it always have to be side loaded? I see a lot of roms listed with the name "instantnoodle" which I know is the name of a specific device (I'm not in any means new to this), I just can't seem to pin down if once converted to global, am I able to use those roms or since it was originally a carrier branded phone will I be forced to use roms for whatever phone the IN2017 is also known as?
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I'm sorry if this questions have been asked before. I read through many pages on the Q&A section of this phone and didn't come with clear answers to my questions.
This is the first time I will attempt to unlock, root and flash a ROM on an Android phone.
First of all, I've read and I still don't know if I can flash a custom ROM, or one of those Brazil/Orange JB images available and be able to have the phone unlocked to use with different carriers. Jelly Bean hasn't been released to this phone here in Mexico yet.
1.- I don't mind unlocking the bootloader with Motorola solution. Is this the best way to unlock it?
2.- Flashing a custom ROM or a stock one makes the phone unlocked so I can use it with different carriers?. If the answer is yes, what ROM do you recommend. Are those Brazil/Orange images good for any user or its better to stick with third-party ROMs?
3.- If the answer to number 2 is NO, what should I do in order to unlock the phone? I need to be able to use in Mexico (the phone if from Telcel) and also use it on the United States (with AT&T). I've read about modem files that had to do with carriers but I'm not sure if I need special files to unlock this phone? If this is needed, where do I start or where do I find this files?
4.- If there is something else I need to know (and I didn't asked here) about unlocking the phone and flashing a stock or third-party ROM and have it unlocked to work with other carriers, please let me know by replying.
What are you guys using to backup the factory image? I haven't fiddled with Android for a while after flashing a Kindle Fire many times. I got a Nexus 7 and I haven't needed to root, unlock or try third party ROMs. The last time I used TWRP to backup the image of the Kindle Fire I think.
Thanks in advance
ajua said:
I'm sorry if this questions have been asked before. I read through many pages on the Q&A section of this phone and didn't come with clear answers to my questions.
This is the first time I will attempt to unlock, root and flash a ROM on an Android phone.
First of all, I've read and I still don't know if I can flash a custom ROM, or one of those Brazil/Orange JB images available and be able to have the phone unlocked to use with different carriers. Jelly Bean hasn't been released to this phone here in Mexico yet.
1.- I don't mind unlocking the bootloader with Motorola solution. Is this the best way to unlock it?
2.- Flashing a custom ROM or a stock one makes the phone unlocked so I can use it with different carriers?. If the answer is yes, what ROM do you recommend. Are those Brazil/Orange images good for any user or its better to stick with third-party ROMs?
3.- If the answer to number 2 is NO, what should I do in order to unlock the phone? I need to be able to use in Mexico (the phone if from Telcel) and also use it on the United States (with AT&T). I've read about modem files that had to do with carriers but I'm not sure if I need special files to unlock this phone? If this is needed, where do I start or where do I find this files?
4.- If there is something else I need to know (and I didn't asked here) about unlocking the phone and flashing a stock or third-party ROM and have it unlocked to work with other carriers, please let me know by replying.
What are you guys using to backup the factory image? I haven't fiddled with Android for a while after flashing a Kindle Fire many times. I got a Nexus 7 and I haven't needed to root, unlock or try third party ROMs. The last time I used TWRP to backup the image of the Kindle Fire I think.
Thanks in advance
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Unlocking BL doesn't change the unlocked status of the phone for carriers. If you want to unlock it to use with different carriers you'll have to pay the unlock fee to whoever you choose to unlock with.
1. Answered above.
2. Custom ROMs or ROMs from different carriers won't unlock the carrier.
3. I believe there is some sort of file modification to have it unlocked. Not sure what you have to do but if I remember correctly its risky and affects IMEI.
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saloums7 said:
Unlocking BL doesn't change the unlocked status of the phone for carriers. If you want to unlock it to use with different carriers you'll have to pay the unlock fee to whoever you choose to unlock with.
1. Answered above.
2. Custom ROMs or ROMs from different carriers won't unlock the carrier.
3. I believe there is some sort of file modification to have it unlocked. Not sure what you have to do but if I remember correctly its risky and affects IMEI.
Sent from my RAZR HD XT925
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I know the bootloader won't change the locked status. As this is the first time flashing a phone, not a tablet, I thought that using a custom ROM or one from different carrier would work for this.
I've tried other SIMs on the phone (it's my sister's, not mine) but the phone didn't asks for a code when a SIM from a different carrier is inserted. I haven't bought any code because of this.
Anyone has a suggestion on what to do to have the phone unlocked to use with different carriers?
I just bought the Verizon Moto Z3 today from Verizon solely with the purpose of rooting this phone so that it could be my dedicated computer/phone for my car computer screen. Trying to figure this out is making me come to a conclusion that this can't be unlocked? Is that true? Is there a way around this so that I can root this phone or did I just sign up for a 2 year contract with a POS that i have no use for now?
I have read that the Verizon makes all phones they have not unlockable. Should have read that too before buying maybe?
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I just bought the Verizon Moto Z3 today from Verizon solely with the purpose of rooting this phone so that it could be my dedicated computer/phone for my car computer screen. Trying to figure this out is making me come to a conclusion that this can't be unlocked? Is that true? Is there a way around this so that I can root this phone or did I just sign up for a 2 year contract with a POS that i have no use for now?
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El Hombre Principal said:
I have read that the Verizon makes all phones they have not unlockable. Should have read that too before buying maybe?
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Verizon is notorious for locking the bootloader on all of their devices. If you want a device that can be rooted and/or flash custom ROMs, then, from now on, you just need to stay away from anything offered by Verizon, regardless of how long you've had service with them or how pleased you are with their service and devices.
They can't be rooted by flashing TWRP and/or SuperSU or Magisk, they can only be rooted by using one of the many different universal rooting apps or universal rooting programs on PC, and that is only IF one of them has an exploit that works, if these universal tools won't work, you're out of luck.
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So buying an unlocked phone that is combatable with Verizon is the way to go or are you saying leave Verizon because not that is combatable with their system is rootable.
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So buying an unlocked phone that is combatable with Verizon is the way to go or are you saying leave Verizon because not that is combatable with their system is rootable.
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Using a device from somewhere else that is unlocked and has root and custom ROMs available for it and is also compatible with the Verizon network is the way to go.
Do some searches for unlocked devices that you might be interested in, make a note of the specific model number. Then, do some searches with those model numbers to see if they have root and custom development available, like this:
"How to root (the specific model number)"
And
"TWRP for (the specific model number)"
***IMPORTANT NOTE***
The device absolutely must have an unlocked bootloader or at least can be unlocked by some known method for that specific device model number, otherwise, you won't be able to use TWRP or custom ROMs but you "might" still be able to have root, just not custom recovery or custom ROMs, so you'll have to go a little deeper with your searches to verify bootloader status on the chosen device.
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"Custom ROMs for (the specific model number)"
Those search terms should find whatever is available, if available for those model numbers.
Then, go to Verizon's website to check if the devices are compatible with the Verizon network.
Basically:
1) find a device you're interested in that is unlocked and note its model number and verify the bootloader status for the device.
2) search to see if there is root and custom development for that model.
3) verify it is compatible with Verizon network.
Find something that satisfies those criteria, then you can activate the device on Verizom when you get it then root and or flash the device after you get it successfully activated on the Verizon network. Then you should be good to go to use the device with Verizon and continue using/updating the custom software and/or customize/modify the device. Just be sure that anything you use is for the specific model number of your device. Using stuff that is not for your specific model number will almost certainly lead to a bricked device.
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Hi guys I have been rooting and using customer ROMs since the note 3 and so think of myself as quite experienced but I've just changed from a rooted S8 Plus to a brand new onePlus 7 pro 5g. And I've got some questions. Firstly are all the onePlus seven family the same for rooting as I see alot of t mobile and international being spoken are they different to my GM1920 as mine is a ee branded 5g 7 pro ? I ask this as it seems the 5g variant is way behind the 4g version on updates and so would like to root and install a custom ROM so any advice is welcomed.
What custom rom? There aren't any yet....
I dont think they are well behind, i just think the version numbers show it that way.
Basically, all youd need to do is unlock bootloader which will wipe the device, boot to twrp and flash magisk. Or flash a patched boot img.
Most of the roms are magisk modules which (mostly) work with 5g variants as it is still using the base 5g rom from oneplus
Sorry to jump on this but if I use a patched boot.img gm1910 (Chinese with Google preinstalled) do I need to unlock the bootloader?
Mickyblu82 said:
Sorry to jump on this but if I use a patched boot.img gm1910 (Chinese with Google preinstalled) do I need to unlock the bootloader?
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Um, you need to unlock the bootloader first, then use a patched boot.img
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And for the OP, the rooting process is going to be the same for all the variants. As said unlock bootloader, twrp(optional), Magisk and read the rooting guides and recommendations. It is fairly painless on these OnePlus devices, as long as you read first then proceed. You see far too many people do stuff then ask for help fixing the problem then reading the correct way to do something. Don't go by the build numbers on the OnePlus, as the company kinda messed up differentiating the variants and build numbers. The 5G version will probably be one of the last to get an update as it has another provisioning then the other. However it will not be "FAR" behind.
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Firstly are all the onePlus seven family the same for rooting as I see alot of t mobile and international being spoken are they different to my GM1920 as mine is a ee branded 5g 7 pro ? I ask this as it seems the 5g variant is way behind the 4g version on updates and so would like to root and install a custom ROM so any advice is welcomed.
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The US T-Mobile variant is the oddball exception; which is why you see it mentioned so often. Thanks to US corporate meddling, that version is SIM locked, so you need to SIM unlock and request a bootloader unlock token, in order to root (alternately, "convert" the device to the international version). None of this applies to the other 7 Pro versions. Other 7 Pro versions, the root process is essentially the same.
One thing to note, on early OOS version 9.5.3 for the 7 Pro (not 5G) the "fastboot boot" command did not work. The workaround to install TWRP was to unlock bootloader, flash a patched boot image, root with Magisk, then install TWRP like a Magisk module. Fastboot boot was fixed subsequently, so the root process was the more traditional: unlock bootloader, fastboot boot TWRP, install TWRP, install Magisk.
I don't think the 5G version ever had this issue (one of the benefits of having a "newer" device, I suppose). But if you see folks talking about rooting by using the patched boot image method, that is what they are talking about.
All that being said, I always a spend at least a couple hours reading up on the root threads, before rooting any new device. Each device has it's nuances in regards to rooting, and requires due diligence regardless of previous experience. Seems like you are on the right track, and have been reading up already. So keep it up. In particular, to verify their isn't anything specific to the 5G version. I don't know much about that version, but from what I've seen, the root method is the same.
Hello.
I have searched the forums and they say there is no way to unlock the carrier for my model; I'm no expert, but what if I flash the ROM? Is it possible to unlock the carrier like that? So I went to the LG website and they have stock firmware files for flashing, the problem is that there is no exact copy of my model, so I was wondering if it is possible to use other ROMs for flashing my phone, like the only difference is the company carriers, there's LM-Q720MS, Q720MS, Q720TS, Q720VSP, I don't live in the USA so I don't know much about phone carriers; Since I have limited bandwidth I can't download all of them and experiment, does anyone knows if any of those ROM files are able to unlock my phone?
The answer is no this process will bricked your cellphone.
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Hello.
I have searched the forums and they say there is no way to unlock the carrier for my model; I'm no expert, but what if I flash the ROM? Is it possible to unlock the carrier like that? So I went to the LG website and they have stock firmware files for flashing, the problem is that there is no exact copy of my model, so I was wondering if it is possible to use other ROMs for flashing my phone, like the only difference is the company carriers, there's LM-Q720MS, Q720MS, Q720TS, Q720VSP, I don't live in the USA so I don't know much about phone carriers; Since I have limited bandwidth I can't download all of them and experiment, does anyone knows if any of those ROM files are able to unlock my phone?
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no, I don't know your answer, I'm on metro PCS, and was able to just request the unlock through the carrier app on my phone, and they did it right away
Hello all!
Thanks for taking the time to click into this.
About me: I mostly see myself as a somewhat tech-savvy noob - I have rooted several devices in the past, flashed ROMs, etc.
New Device: OnePlus 8T T-Mobile Variant purchased from OnePlus.com
Condition: Brand New - never started the device
I would like to essentially imitate Calyx as described here.
=> install TWRP/Magisk + flash 'LineageOS for MicroG'
Questions:
1) Will I be able to unlock the bootloader given that this is the T-Mobile variant purchased from OnePlus?
2) Do I need to take additional steps because this phone is the T-Mobile variant?
3) basic question: I have never started the phone so it has no personal data - should I back up the current setup in case I need to return to OOS for any reason or can I track down the default OOS installation making that all unnecessary?
(I remember in the past default Samsung installations were easily tracked down and flashed using Odin).
4) Would you recommend any detailed instructions to go through the process of backup, installing custom recovery, accessing root privileges, flashing LineageOS for MicroG, etc?
(I feel like I am piecing parts together from different places and it's all not fitting together)
Thank you so much for reading this.... I feel like I'm going down several rabbit holes currently so any perspective or support is welcome!
It would be helpful to hear any thoughts from some more experienced peeps before I move ahead.
Thank you!
Currently, I am trying to get the SIM unlocked, then unlock the bootloader, and proceed with the plan above.
I am considering returning the phone and getting a different one that has more users on XDA to avoid having bizarre issues arise with the steps involved with the T-Mobile version of the 8T and being totally on my own.
doctadocta said:
Currently, I am trying to get the SIM unlocked, then unlock the bootloader, and proceed with the plan above.
I am considering returning the phone and getting a different one that has more users on XDA to avoid having bizarre issues arise with the steps involved with the T-Mobile version of the 8T and being totally on my own.
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yeah I dont see much help for Tmo version and I faced lots of issues just trying to get a brand new one recognized by my computer.
Ejvyas said:
yeah I dont see much help for Tmo version and I faced lots of issues just trying to get a brand new one recognized by my computer.
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whoa! that's helpful feedback. Thank you for posting!
Based on your comment, I am leaning towards returning the phone.
I think I learn best through examples and may need a little support.
I am now wondering how I can figure out which phones have the largest 'community' on XDA.
I have the T-Mobile variant. There's more support and options available so don't be discouraged.
Normally, you have to be SIM unlocked before you can do anything else, like bootloader unlocking. If the phone is being paid for or financed and you haven't been a long time customer you may or may not get it SIM unlocked.
That said, I got mine SIM unlocked after contacting the T-Mobile Tforce people on Facebook. Then I saw this thread on Rebranding the T-Mobile variant.
[GUIDE] Convert TMO to EU via MSM Tool, no SIM Unlock or Bootloader Unlock needed!
*** Use this at your very own risk. *** You will lose all data *** Backup your working modem and persist, just in case *** Read the entire post and follow the steps closely before asking for help. Post all error messages and steps you took...
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Following it I changed the T-Mobile firmware to the European firmware. If nothing else you get more recent updates and a local update feature (full OTA updates can be downloaded and installed locally). As a result of the conversion I was able to simply fastboot unlock the bootloader without need for waiting for a code from OnePlus. The phone is now bootloader unlocked and rooted with Magisk.
Note that according to the OP, SIM unlock is not necessary for the conversion but you'll still need to be SIM unlocked to be able to unlock the bootloader.
Now that I'm "free" I now have the itch for a custom ROM. Over the years all of my devices run either with microG or just UnifiedNlp but no Google. I feel the need to do the same here. Currently I just have most Google apps disabled and using FOSS apps in their place but still...
Besides LineageOS for microG, the 8T also has Carbon ROM and crDroid. They historically have always had signature spoofing support so I assume they still do with Android 11. That means microG can be used.
Check the guides and ROM/Kernel threads for more info.
I don't know if I can get to trying anything this week but I hope to. I work at a drive-in movie theater and with Spider-Man coming out this week I'll be quite busy.
marcdw said:
I have the T-Mobile variant. There's more support and options available so don't be discouraged.
Normally, you have to be SIM unlocked before you can do anything else, like bootloader unlocking. If the phone is being paid for or financed and you haven't been a long time customer you may or may not get it SIM unlocked.
That said, I got mine SIM unlocked after contacting the T-Mobile Tforce people on Facebook. Then I saw this thread on Rebranding the T-Mobile variant.
[GUIDE] Convert TMO to EU via MSM Tool, no SIM Unlock or Bootloader Unlock needed!
*** Use this at your very own risk. *** You will lose all data *** Backup your working modem and persist, just in case *** Read the entire post and follow the steps closely before asking for help. Post all error messages and steps you took...
forum.xda-developers.com
Following it I changed the T-Mobile firmware to the European firmware. If nothing else you get more recent updates and a local update feature (full OTA updates can be downloaded and installed locally). As a result of the conversion I was able to simply fastboot unlock the bootloader without need for waiting for a code from OnePlus. The phone is now bootloader unlocked and rooted with Magisk.
Note that according to the OP, SIM unlock is not necessary for the conversion but you'll still need to be SIM unlocked to be able to unlock the bootloader.
Now that I'm "free" I now have the itch for a custom ROM. Over the years all of my devices run either with microG or just UnifiedNlp but no Google. I feel the need to do the same here. Currently I just have most Google apps disabled and using FOSS apps in their place but still...
Besides LineageOS for microG, the 8T also has Carbon ROM and crDroid. They historically have always had signature spoofing support so I assume they still do with Android 11. That means microG can be used.
Check the guides and ROM/Kernel threads for more info.
I don't know if I can get to trying anything this week but I hope to. I work at a drive-in movie theater and with Spider-Man coming out this week I'll be quite busy.
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Do you know how to fix this ?
"Automatic Detection of DDR failed"
Ejvyas said:
Do you know how to fix this ?
"Automatic Detection of DDR failed"
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Excuse the late reply.
No, not too versed on this device really. I searched for that error and got a lot of hits but didn't have the time to read up. Sorry.