Experienced Rooter but noob to OnePlus - OnePlus 7 Pro Questions & Answers

Hi guys I have been rooting and using customer ROMs since the note 3 and so think of myself as quite experienced but I've just changed from a rooted S8 Plus to a brand new onePlus 7 pro 5g. And I've got some questions. Firstly are all the onePlus seven family the same for rooting as I see alot of t mobile and international being spoken are they different to my GM1920 as mine is a ee branded 5g 7 pro ? I ask this as it seems the 5g variant is way behind the 4g version on updates and so would like to root and install a custom ROM so any advice is welcomed.

What custom rom? There aren't any yet....

I dont think they are well behind, i just think the version numbers show it that way.
Basically, all youd need to do is unlock bootloader which will wipe the device, boot to twrp and flash magisk. Or flash a patched boot img.
Most of the roms are magisk modules which (mostly) work with 5g variants as it is still using the base 5g rom from oneplus

Sorry to jump on this but if I use a patched boot.img gm1910 (Chinese with Google preinstalled) do I need to unlock the bootloader?

Mickyblu82 said:
Sorry to jump on this but if I use a patched boot.img gm1910 (Chinese with Google preinstalled) do I need to unlock the bootloader?
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Um, you need to unlock the bootloader first, then use a patched boot.img
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And for the OP, the rooting process is going to be the same for all the variants. As said unlock bootloader, twrp(optional), Magisk and read the rooting guides and recommendations. It is fairly painless on these OnePlus devices, as long as you read first then proceed. You see far too many people do stuff then ask for help fixing the problem then reading the correct way to do something. Don't go by the build numbers on the OnePlus, as the company kinda messed up differentiating the variants and build numbers. The 5G version will probably be one of the last to get an update as it has another provisioning then the other. However it will not be "FAR" behind.

sonic699 said:
Firstly are all the onePlus seven family the same for rooting as I see alot of t mobile and international being spoken are they different to my GM1920 as mine is a ee branded 5g 7 pro ? I ask this as it seems the 5g variant is way behind the 4g version on updates and so would like to root and install a custom ROM so any advice is welcomed.
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The US T-Mobile variant is the oddball exception; which is why you see it mentioned so often. Thanks to US corporate meddling, that version is SIM locked, so you need to SIM unlock and request a bootloader unlock token, in order to root (alternately, "convert" the device to the international version). None of this applies to the other 7 Pro versions. Other 7 Pro versions, the root process is essentially the same.
One thing to note, on early OOS version 9.5.3 for the 7 Pro (not 5G) the "fastboot boot" command did not work. The workaround to install TWRP was to unlock bootloader, flash a patched boot image, root with Magisk, then install TWRP like a Magisk module. Fastboot boot was fixed subsequently, so the root process was the more traditional: unlock bootloader, fastboot boot TWRP, install TWRP, install Magisk.
I don't think the 5G version ever had this issue (one of the benefits of having a "newer" device, I suppose). But if you see folks talking about rooting by using the patched boot image method, that is what they are talking about.
All that being said, I always a spend at least a couple hours reading up on the root threads, before rooting any new device. Each device has it's nuances in regards to rooting, and requires due diligence regardless of previous experience. Seems like you are on the right track, and have been reading up already. So keep it up. In particular, to verify their isn't anything specific to the 5G version. I don't know much about that version, but from what I've seen, the root method is the same.

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Buying an S8+ And Hoping to Root; Any Questions I Should ask a Seller Before?

I had an HTC 10 w/Sprint and it's getting old and full, but I liked how easy it was to unlock the bootloader. I enjoy having a rooted phone and I'm seeing that the S8+ (US Version) can be rooted, but I'm assuming there's prerequisites that used phones might/might not have to do so. So I'm just wondering if there's any questions I should ask the sellers of an S8+ on Swappa or eBay to make sure that root is possible when I decide to buy one? I don't wanna wind up w/a LS997 situation, where I got the phone but it was too upgraded that the methods to root were patched up. Thanks for any help.
Brian23MAC said:
I had an HTC 10 w/Sprint and it's getting old and full, but I liked how easy it was to unlock the bootloader. I enjoy having a rooted phone and I'm seeing that the S8+ (US Version) can be rooted, but I'm assuming there's prerequisites that used phones might/might not have to do so. So I'm just wondering if there's any questions I should ask the sellers of an S8+ on Swappa or eBay to make sure that root is possible when I decide to buy one? I don't wanna wind up w/a LS997 situation, where I got the phone but it was too upgraded that the methods to root were patched up. Thanks for any help.
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No boot loader unlock. There is a method for root. It's system only root and only on nougat.
Coming from LG you've seen anti roll back we have the same. But they're is a method to downgrade the system only even on the latest boot loader to have rooted nougat https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/development/root-t3909782/post79500078#post79500078
Safestrap is like fish on the lg g4. once safe strap is in place you can then flash a older system image from older boot loader revisions.
Even on the latest boot loader we're have Samsung's test firmware called combination files. Which include a nougat bootloader that is a permissive kernel and allows for root.
I ran lg all the way back from g2 to g5. So I've been in your shoes too. that's pretty much how I ended up here. From a sprint g2 g4 and g5
So even if the phone is upgraded, there's a method to roll back to an environment to root an S8+? So I can basically just cop an S8 w/no worries then and not ask any prerequisite questions?. That's good to see. I appreciate the assist.
Brian23MAC said:
So even if the phone is upgraded, there's a method to roll back to an environment to root an S8+? So I can basically just cop an S8 w/no worries then and not ask any prerequisite questions?. That's good to see. I appreciate the assist.
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yea pretty much the bootloader must remain the same increment but the system does not
obviously newer pie and even oreo where all bit 5 BLs but the firmware needed for root is also bit 5 but a nougat bootloader
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/development/root-t3904613
is the perquisite to rooting
this allows a type of twrp for locked bl
we can flash pretty much all but boot img and non stock based custom roms
Bl6 hasnt been released yet so as long as you get it soon your good as
since this is edl I doubt it can be patched but always a possibility

T-Mobile 7 Pro converted to international; Couple root/bootloader questions.

Today I received a T-Mobile, SIM unlocked, OnePlus 7Pro GM1915.
I have already followed the steps to flash international firmware and that went fine. Only issue I had was my SIM was being detected but no service, an OTA update to 10.0.3 fixed that issue. I haven't had a phone with root access/unlocked bootloader since my 1st gen Moto X so excuse my ignorance if some of these question are common sense, but I've done some searching online and can't find any straight forward answers.
1. Now that I have installed the international firmware I don't need to get a bootloader unlock from T-Mobile, correct? I can just use the OEM unlock option and unlock via fastboot?
2. I know bootloader/root can sometimes cause certain applications to not function, but I've also read Magisk has a setting to correct this. I'm mainly just concerned with Google Pay, is there a method for it to still function with root?
3. Part of me would actually like to use the phone stock for a week or so to see if I even feel like I need root access. I am currently on OS 10.0.3, if I update to the newest OS (looks like 10.3.1 is the newest) will I still be able to root with Magisk? I would assume yes since you can do an OTA update and keep Magisk, but I just wanted to verify.
Again, sorry if some of this is common sense, but I've searched around and can't find straight forward answers fort any of this.
First, sim unlocked you're good to go. No need to bother T-Mobile. Bootloader unlock is through OnePlus. Guides aplenty here, search will turn up what you need. I'm personally running the box stock firmware unrooted and at the moment I'm very happy with it.fotr the first time in a long time I don't see much value in going through the process of rooting because the stock ROM pretty much has everything that I used to get with rooting and a custom ROM. I will probably do it anyway at some point, just because I feel wierd not having root.
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guitardoc64 said:
First, sim unlocked you're good to go. No need to bother T-Mobile. Bootloader unlock is through OnePlus. Guides aplenty here, search will turn up what you need. I'm personally running the box stock firmware unrooted and at the moment I'm very happy with it.fotr the first time in a long time I don't see much value in going through the process of rooting because the stock ROM pretty much has everything that I used to get with rooting and a custom ROM. I will probably do it anyway at some point, just because I feel wierd not having root.
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Thanks for the feedback.
I think I'm going to update to the newest firmware. Worst case I decide I want to root I'll use MSM and downgrade, my phone will get wiped when I unlock my bootloader anyway.
guitardoc64 said:
First, sim unlocked you're good to go. No need to bother T-Mobile. Bootloader unlock is through OnePlus. Guides aplenty here, search will turn up what you need. I'm personally running the box stock firmware unrooted and at the moment I'm very happy with it.fotr the first time in a long time I don't see much value in going through the process of rooting because the stock ROM pretty much has everything that I used to get with rooting and a custom ROM. I will probably do it anyway at some point, just because I feel wierd not having root.
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The reason I root is adblocker system wide
jamescable said:
The reason I root is adblocker system wide
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I found an app called block this. It does a good job and doesn't need root. It might not block ads on YouTube but it gets rid of the annoying ones in games.
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Sprint Oneplus 8 5G Bootloader unlock?

Has anyone been able to get any information? I checked the Oneplus site and the tmobile phone has an unlock .bin page but no mention of sprint. Now, I know Sprint has merged with Tmobile so im not sure if this changes things..
Any thoughts/information?
I'm not 100% sure on this as I haven't confirmed it however, I did get the OnePlus 8 5g at their discounted deal due to the merger and can say without a doubt that it is a T-Mobile phone with T-Mobile branding on the box and in the phone the only thing that it is currently using is a Sprint SIM card. Therefore I would assume one of the many methods that are listed over on the T-Mobile side should work I will check into it tonight and get back to you with my findings. I can also say that all of my roaming issues that I was having at my house with my OnePlus 7 pro 5G have been corrected and resolved with just this phone alone. No need for an airrave or any other device to get internet at home. I'm not sure if you live in a 5-g city or not however they have not officially activated it where I live it just recently came on line a day or two ago and that is through T-Mobile's Network only and I'm actually able to pick that up now to. (Just not at home )
Yeah same phone. If you go into the unlock screen it even says T-Mobile even with a Sprint sim in the phone.
Barman49 said:
Yeah same phone. If you go into the unlock screen it even says T-Mobile even with a Sprint sim in the phone.
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Sprint is owned by T-Moblie now, so it makes sense.
Barman49 said:
Yeah same phone. If you go into the unlock screen it even says T-Mobile even with a Sprint sim in the phone.
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hmm...mine says Sprint.
Your pic isn't working for whatever reason but mine shows t-mobile. Edit... Looks like there's an issue with uploading pics. View attachment 5053937
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Barman49 said:
Your pic isn't working for whatever reason but mine shows t-mobile. Edit... Looks like there's an issue with uploading pics.
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Yeah noticed that. For my OnePlus 8 on the lock screen it says Sprint next to the camera. Could there be different models? I got mine a few days after they started the early upgrade last month.
Swetnes said:
Yeah noticed that. For my OnePlus 8 on the lock screen it says Sprint next to the camera. Could there be different models? I got mine a few days after they started the early upgrade last month.
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No we're taking about in the bootloader unlock screen not the lock screen.
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Barman49 said:
No we're taking about in the bootloader unlock screen not the lock screen.
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Ok my bad... That makes sense now.
I am on Sprint, can i buy the oneplus 8 5g from a sprint or tmobile store? Will they be the same? Also is there a oneplus 8 5g pro?
ink718 said:
I am on Sprint, can i buy the oneplus 8 5g from a sprint or tmobile store? Will they be the same? Also is there a oneplus 8 5g pro?
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They are the same phone but you need a Sprint sim if you're using Sprint for your carrier. There is an 8 Pro but it's not available through any carrier in the US. You need to buy it from OP or Amazon. I don't think it'll work on Sprint as it's not an approved device. It will work on t-mobile This will all change after August when they begin merging customers.
Edit: The OP8 is the exact same phone, IN2017, on both networks.
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I am wondering the same. Can I root this device? I just got this phone, mine says Sprint. IN2017. I just want root and start trying different things? Anyone get this rooted yet? Ty
furrelkt said:
I am wondering the same. Can I root this device? I just got this phone, mine says Sprint. IN2017. I just want root and start trying different things? Anyone get this rooted yet? Ty
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Yes. I am fully rooted, xXx rom and smurf kernel
You need to network unlock (sim unlock) permanent in order to make available the toggle for OEM Unlocking in settings.
Once sim unlocked, enable oem unlocking in settings and get the unlock from phone and then from OnePlus.
After unlock_code.bin is provided from OnePlus you need to flash that via fastboot. This will wipe.
Then download latest stable twrp from mauricio (thread in xda OnePlus forums)
Only BOOT twrp. Backup boot partition. Install magisk manager app once phone fully reboots.
Patch boot.img backup you made using magisk manager app.
This creates the file "patched_magisk.img"
Move that to ADB folder.
Test patched boot by <fastboot boot patched_magisk.img>
If successful, open magisk manager and press Install Directly.
You will be rooted.
crazynapkinman said:
Yes. I am fully rooted, xXx rom and smurf kernel
You need to network unlock (sim unlock) permanent in order to make available the toggle for OEM Unlocking in settings.
Once sim unlocked, enable oem unlocking in settings and get the unlock from phone and then from OnePlus.
After unlock_code.bin is provided from OnePlus you need to flash that via fastboot. This will wipe.
Then download latest stable twrp from mauricio (thread in xda OnePlus forums)
Only BOOT twrp. Backup boot partition. Install magisk manager app once phone fully reboots.
Patch boot.img backup you made using magisk manager app.
This creates the file "patched_magisk.img"
Move that to ADB folder.
Test patched boot by <fastboot boot patched_magisk.img>
If successful, open magisk manager and press Install Directly.
You will be rooted.
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Thank you. I will be looking into this tomorrow!! Can't wait.
crazynapkinman said:
Yes. I am fully rooted, xXx rom and smurf kernel
You need to network unlock (sim unlock) permanent in order to make available the toggle for OEM Unlocking in settings.
Once sim unlocked, enable oem unlocking in settings and get the unlock from phone and then from OnePlus.
After unlock_code.bin is provided from OnePlus you need to flash that via fastboot. This will wipe.
Then download latest stable twrp from mauricio (thread in xda OnePlus forums)
Only BOOT twrp. Backup boot partition. Install magisk manager app once phone fully reboots.
Patch boot.img backup you made using magisk manager app.
This creates the file "patched_magisk.img"
Move that to ADB folder.
Test patched boot by <fastboot boot patched_magisk.img>
If successful, open magisk manager and press Install Directly.
You will be rooted.
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this is the first post in probably 5 years i hit the Thanks button for
can you please confirm if this is supposed to be the method for all carriers, or specific to certain region models, or excluding certain carriers?
i'm emerging from a 1000 year slumber after becoming satisfied with a previous phone, and finding it ridiculously difficult to find a new haven for rooted phones lol
Once you are rooted and unlocked, I'd suggest switching to the Global rom for future proofing the device.
I just did this last night and it was fairly painless.
There's a thread on switching to global. In that thread there is a reply to my post. That reply is a very concise guide to flashing over to global and updating to A11. Regaining root is also simple. Use Magisk Canary and download the stock boot image for global. Patch that stock boot using Magisk Canary.
Reboot to fastboot and flash patched_magisk.img to boot_a AND boot_b
Reboot.
Enjoy root and Magisk.
I also recommend flashing the xXx Magisk rom. Will re-enable VoWiFi and VoLTE for global rom!
crazynapkinman said:
Once you are rooted and unlocked, I'd suggest switching to the Global rom for future proofing the device.
I just did this last night and it was fairly painless.
There's a thread on switching to global. In that thread there is a reply to my post. That reply is a very concise guide to flashing over to global and updating to A11. Regaining root is also simple. Use Magisk Canary and download the stock boot image for global. Patch that stock boot using Magisk Canary.
Reboot to fastboot and flash patched_magisk.img to boot_a AND boot_b
Reboot.
Enjoy root and Magisk.
I also recommend flashing the xXx Magisk rom. Will re-enable VoWiFi and VoLTE for global rom!
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Does the global ROM have T-mobile"s 5g enabled? I am on sprint with the T-Mobile oneplus 8 5g. I'm currently awaiting my bootloader unlock bin file (I applied last week).
Thanks for any assistance.
Cheers,
B.D.
BostonDan said:
Does the global ROM have T-mobile"s 5g enabled? I am on sprint with the T-Mobile oneplus 8 5g. I'm currently awaiting my bootloader unlock bin file (I applied last week).
Thanks for any assistance.
Cheers,
B.D.
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Yes. I'm on exact same thing as you.
5g works great after A11 update!
I just got an IN2017 model now and still trying to apply for a SIM unlock, do I need any services enabled for that process? Or can I disable/wipe out any crappy bloatware that my system has, and if so then what's safe to uninstall from sprint?
MarkiMarko2221 said:
I just got an IN2017 model now and still trying to apply for a SIM unlock, do I need any services enabled for that process? Or can I disable/wipe out any crappy bloatware that my system has, and if so then what's safe to uninstall from sprint?
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I"d leave it all for now. Once you unlock, i'd recommend switching to global rom anyway. It receives updates faster and modem is better than tmo. even without standalone 5g.
And when you do that, you'll eliminate most of the bloat.

Flashing LineageOS for MicroG on 8T (T-Mobile Variant) purchased from OnePlus

Hello all!
Thanks for taking the time to click into this.
About me: I mostly see myself as a somewhat tech-savvy noob - I have rooted several devices in the past, flashed ROMs, etc.
New Device: OnePlus 8T T-Mobile Variant purchased from OnePlus.com
Condition: Brand New - never started the device
I would like to essentially imitate Calyx as described here.
=> install TWRP/Magisk + flash 'LineageOS for MicroG'
Questions:
1) Will I be able to unlock the bootloader given that this is the T-Mobile variant purchased from OnePlus?
2) Do I need to take additional steps because this phone is the T-Mobile variant?
3) basic question: I have never started the phone so it has no personal data - should I back up the current setup in case I need to return to OOS for any reason or can I track down the default OOS installation making that all unnecessary?
(I remember in the past default Samsung installations were easily tracked down and flashed using Odin).
4) Would you recommend any detailed instructions to go through the process of backup, installing custom recovery, accessing root privileges, flashing LineageOS for MicroG, etc?
(I feel like I am piecing parts together from different places and it's all not fitting together)
Thank you so much for reading this.... I feel like I'm going down several rabbit holes currently so any perspective or support is welcome!
It would be helpful to hear any thoughts from some more experienced peeps before I move ahead.
Thank you!
Currently, I am trying to get the SIM unlocked, then unlock the bootloader, and proceed with the plan above.
I am considering returning the phone and getting a different one that has more users on XDA to avoid having bizarre issues arise with the steps involved with the T-Mobile version of the 8T and being totally on my own.
doctadocta said:
Currently, I am trying to get the SIM unlocked, then unlock the bootloader, and proceed with the plan above.
I am considering returning the phone and getting a different one that has more users on XDA to avoid having bizarre issues arise with the steps involved with the T-Mobile version of the 8T and being totally on my own.
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yeah I dont see much help for Tmo version and I faced lots of issues just trying to get a brand new one recognized by my computer.
Ejvyas said:
yeah I dont see much help for Tmo version and I faced lots of issues just trying to get a brand new one recognized by my computer.
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whoa! that's helpful feedback. Thank you for posting!
Based on your comment, I am leaning towards returning the phone.
I think I learn best through examples and may need a little support.
I am now wondering how I can figure out which phones have the largest 'community' on XDA.
I have the T-Mobile variant. There's more support and options available so don't be discouraged.
Normally, you have to be SIM unlocked before you can do anything else, like bootloader unlocking. If the phone is being paid for or financed and you haven't been a long time customer you may or may not get it SIM unlocked.
That said, I got mine SIM unlocked after contacting the T-Mobile Tforce people on Facebook. Then I saw this thread on Rebranding the T-Mobile variant.
[GUIDE] Convert TMO to EU via MSM Tool, no SIM Unlock or Bootloader Unlock needed!
*** Use this at your very own risk. *** You will lose all data *** Backup your working modem and persist, just in case *** Read the entire post and follow the steps closely before asking for help. Post all error messages and steps you took...
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Following it I changed the T-Mobile firmware to the European firmware. If nothing else you get more recent updates and a local update feature (full OTA updates can be downloaded and installed locally). As a result of the conversion I was able to simply fastboot unlock the bootloader without need for waiting for a code from OnePlus. The phone is now bootloader unlocked and rooted with Magisk.
Note that according to the OP, SIM unlock is not necessary for the conversion but you'll still need to be SIM unlocked to be able to unlock the bootloader.
Now that I'm "free" I now have the itch for a custom ROM. Over the years all of my devices run either with microG or just UnifiedNlp but no Google. I feel the need to do the same here. Currently I just have most Google apps disabled and using FOSS apps in their place but still...
Besides LineageOS for microG, the 8T also has Carbon ROM and crDroid. They historically have always had signature spoofing support so I assume they still do with Android 11. That means microG can be used.
Check the guides and ROM/Kernel threads for more info.
I don't know if I can get to trying anything this week but I hope to. I work at a drive-in movie theater and with Spider-Man coming out this week I'll be quite busy.
marcdw said:
I have the T-Mobile variant. There's more support and options available so don't be discouraged.
Normally, you have to be SIM unlocked before you can do anything else, like bootloader unlocking. If the phone is being paid for or financed and you haven't been a long time customer you may or may not get it SIM unlocked.
That said, I got mine SIM unlocked after contacting the T-Mobile Tforce people on Facebook. Then I saw this thread on Rebranding the T-Mobile variant.
[GUIDE] Convert TMO to EU via MSM Tool, no SIM Unlock or Bootloader Unlock needed!
*** Use this at your very own risk. *** You will lose all data *** Backup your working modem and persist, just in case *** Read the entire post and follow the steps closely before asking for help. Post all error messages and steps you took...
forum.xda-developers.com
Following it I changed the T-Mobile firmware to the European firmware. If nothing else you get more recent updates and a local update feature (full OTA updates can be downloaded and installed locally). As a result of the conversion I was able to simply fastboot unlock the bootloader without need for waiting for a code from OnePlus. The phone is now bootloader unlocked and rooted with Magisk.
Note that according to the OP, SIM unlock is not necessary for the conversion but you'll still need to be SIM unlocked to be able to unlock the bootloader.
Now that I'm "free" I now have the itch for a custom ROM. Over the years all of my devices run either with microG or just UnifiedNlp but no Google. I feel the need to do the same here. Currently I just have most Google apps disabled and using FOSS apps in their place but still...
Besides LineageOS for microG, the 8T also has Carbon ROM and crDroid. They historically have always had signature spoofing support so I assume they still do with Android 11. That means microG can be used.
Check the guides and ROM/Kernel threads for more info.
I don't know if I can get to trying anything this week but I hope to. I work at a drive-in movie theater and with Spider-Man coming out this week I'll be quite busy.
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Do you know how to fix this ?
"Automatic Detection of DDR failed"
Ejvyas said:
Do you know how to fix this ?
"Automatic Detection of DDR failed"
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Excuse the late reply.
No, not too versed on this device really. I searched for that error and got a lot of hits but didn't have the time to read up. Sorry.

Possible to Downgrade From Android 11 to 10 on XT2113-2? If so, how?

I have a new XT2113-2 (TM) that is yet to be boot loader unlocked/rooted/etc. I don't want to do that until I am sure. I got this variant of the phone so I could unlock the bootloader, root, TWRP, etc and was afraid the "global" variant -3 might not work with USA 5G. The phone came with Android 11 installed (and has since auto-installed at least one security update). It shows the build as RZKS31.Q3-45-16-3-11 and the baseband ends with Kiev_TMO_CUST. I am using it on ATT (via Red Pocket) since TM service just sucks where I live. And I do get the 5G icon on it now.
But ideally, I want to get this to the original TM Android 10, which I think is shown here as the file XT2113-2_KIEV_TMO_10_QZKS30.Q4-40-95-6_subsidy-TMO_SPR_RSU_QCOM_regulatory-DEFAULT_CFC.xml.zip as I hope it will undo some of the "security" crap Google has added to Android with each successive release.
So I need to be sure of the following:
1. Can I downgrade from 11 to 10?
2. Is there some reason to NOT use the firmware mentioned above? Should I use retail US (RETUS) instead? I am not sure the differences (it would be great if that would permit me to use this phone on Red Pocket Verizon but the IMEI now shows as incompatible on Verizon).
3. Must I unlock the boot loader to downgrade? I know I must to do other stuff and I have the unlock code on hand and ready to put it if needed. If I must unlock the boot loader to downgrade, will I have to re-unlock it afterwards? And, if so, will I have to go through the same process of getting a code or will the code I have now work?
4. How do I flash to do the downgrade? I have the Lenovo Rescue/Smart Assistant installed on my PC and was able to download the stock firmware (I assume it matches what is on there now) and stashed it aside. But is there some other tool needed?
5. Once I achieve downgrade, what is the best way to avoid having the thing auto-update to Android 11?
Thanks for your help with these questions.
If you are going to take this phone to AT&T, you will not get 5G if you unlock the bootloader. The NR band will be restricted. Downgrading from 11 to 10 generally doesn't work either.
I can't answer the rest of your questions.
RETIEF said:
If you are going to take this phone to AT&T, you will not get 5G if you unlock the bootloader. The NR band will be restricted. Downgrading from 11 to 10 generally doesn't work either.
I can't answer the rest of your questions.
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Thanks for this response. I do have it on ATT (via Red Pocket) now and it does appear to get 5G now. I have not yet unlocked the bootloader, was thinking to do it, but considering that it would cause loss of 5G I think I will not and will just return the phone. Wow!
RETIEF said:
If you are going to take this phone to AT&T, you will not get 5G if you unlock the bootloader. The NR band will be restricted. Downgrading from 11 to 10 generally doesn't work either.
I can't answer the rest of your questions.
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BTW - have you any references on this behavior? I am wondering if this is something that would affect ALL phones with unlocked boot loaders (like Pixel, OnePlus, etc). Thanks for the heads-up.
WARNING: ONLY DO THAT IF YOU ARE REALLY SURE AND DO BE CAREFULLY. I recommend you: do it not.
By downgrading to an older software, the bootloader in many cases can be destroyed, so your phone is completly bricked!
I write this from EXPERIENCE. My amazon fire is completed bricked, when i have flash a older SYSTEM. It can't turn on, no fastboot, no recovery!
whitedavidp said:
BTW - have you any references on this behavior? I am wondering if this is something that would affect ALL phones with unlocked boot loaders (like Pixel, OnePlus, etc). Thanks for the heads-up.
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I suspect, but don't know, that all phones with unlocked bootloaders are blocked from 5g from AT&T. I know my kiev (RETUS) is.
RETIEF said:
I suspect, but don't know, that all phones with unlocked bootloaders are blocked from 5g from AT&T. I know my kiev (RETUS) is.
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Thanks. Yet another reason to dislike ATT, I guess. Sadly, in my area TM coverage stinks. And this phone will not work on Verizon (unclear why but they reject the IMEI). And getting the Verizon variant will preclude ever rooting the thing. So I really feel trapped!
Likewise
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I suspect, but don't know, that all phones with unlocked bootloaders are blocked from 5g from AT&T. I know my kiev (RETUS) is.
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I always figured it was this
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as my IMEI SV on the Metro/TMO variant is 05 rather than 07. Never tested with a locked bootloader though.
whitedavidp said:
BTW - have you any references on this behavior? I am wondering if this is something that would affect ALL phones with unlocked boot loaders (like Pixel, OnePlus, etc). Thanks for the heads-up.
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Bootloader unlocked Pixels work fine on ATT 5G, don't know about OnePlus.

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