Can a Android phone be programmed to steal subscriber info ? - General Questions and Answers

Hi all. Long time no see
Well, to sum it up : a few years ago I bought a phone on the cheap, which turned out to be a chinese copy of a Galaxy Note 7.
Not having much use for it (it didn't have accelerometers nor magnetometer neither GPS apparently) it stayed in a drawer for 3-4 years before I decided to give it to a family member, who had to go to her phone operator's shop to get a new SIM card, as the old one was too big.A few days later, she gets a SMS from the operator saying that she is in overuse of international phone calls (she never phones out of country, she uses Whatsapp for that), all toward Tunisia, and had racked up a bill of 650€ and counting ! :O
Luckily she won't have to pay them, as while she was at the shop in order to inquire, 3 new calls had been placed in the meantime. But she had to get a new SIM and have her number changed as well.
I thought -and the shop as well- that her SIM subscriber ID had been stolen, but I wonder how this happened : either the guy at the shop who switched her SIM cards did it (possible, as he told her to wait 15-20mins to be activated. When she got the new SIM with a new number from another clerk there was no wait involved), or somehow the phone forwarded the SIM data to a hacker who used it to clone the original SIM.
Since I've found no info about that on the web, I wanted the adice of experts in the matter.
So what d'you think, guys ? Any input appreciated. Thx !

Did she have the CCP virus yet?
WYSIWYG. Deep six ditch the phone.
Change all account passwords once she gets the new phone.
Not only firmware rootkits but the possibility of embedded hardware backdoors. The former can be removed, the latter not. This piece of junk isn't worth the risks!

blackhawk said:
Did she have the CCP virus yet?
WYSIWYG. Deep six ditch the phone.
Change all account passwords once she gets the new phone.
Not only firmware rootkits but the possibility of embedded hardware backdoors. The former can be removed, the latter not. This piece of junk isn't worth the risks!
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Thx !
Do you know of any methods to analyse the phone and confirm this, perhaps ?

Snakeforhire said:
Thx !
Do you know of any methods to analyse the phone and confirm this, perhaps ?
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Malwarebytes. You already know it's compromised.
You could try reflashing the rom to a know good version.
The user themselves could have downloaded a rootkit... no saving dumb bunnies.
Be careful what you download and the apps you load.

blackhawk said:
Malwarebytes. You already know it's compromised.
You could try reflashing the rom to a know good version.
The user themselves could have downloaded a rootkit... no saving dumb bunnies.
Be careful what you download and the apps you load.
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only app that was downloaded was Whatsapp bcoz she needed it, she doesn't know how to install other apps (she's a 60+yr gramma)

Snakeforhire said:
only app that was downloaded was Whatsapp bcoz she needed it, she doesn't know how to install other apps (she's a 60+yr gramma)
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I won't let WhatsApp near my phone.
I was born at night but not last night... someone might have tricked her into downloading something maybe to view a vid etc. Social engineering and malware go hand in hand.
WhatsApp members are wholly unvetted.

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My touch pro stolen!!!!

hi guys...i come with some sad news...the phone which i lust over for months since it came out and i recently bought was stolen this week is there anyway to recover it... i have both the IMEI # and the S\N # documented is there a company that can tell you what sim card is currently been used in the phone??
your advice would be greatly appreciated
Wow, that sucks! Good luck!
My AT&T 8525 (TYTN) was stolen in my own home during a house party (We patted down everyone, it was missing, i swear the guys who we know did it must have hid it up their @$$) - only had the phone for about 3 months before it was stolen.
I called AT&T and had them do their thing, but nothing ever came out of that. I really don't know what to say, if you have insurance on the phone, get a police report!
Otherwise, i too would like to know what can be done (at least as precaution before hand)
sorry for your lost as well...i know they are apps out that that sends SMS to another cell phone...but..suppose if the crook does a factory reset which wipes off the app...i must say thou i would like modders to create a rom thats has a security app builtin into it...
also i was thinking is there a company online that tracks phone worldwide? i mean like it they will be able to tell u what sim card is currently in the phone??

WaveSecure..

Anyone getting an account? They are giving away lifetime membership for those who download and register.
It is basically like mobile defense (which is also great and free) but it give the option to wipe the phone & the SD card. a few months ago I lost a G1 and I would have love to be able to wipe everything.
I figured it is a must for my Nexus.
Just wanted to put it out there for those who didn't know.
Were you able to log in into their website?
I'm using it, and I'm very impressed. This is a must download app. However, the site is very slow and you often have trouble connecting to it.
Haven't tried logging into their website yet, just downloaded it today. Still at work and no access to that site. I know mobile defense was fairly simple and I figure it shouldn't be much different.
Dled , installed , and tried it out the other day. GPS was off by alot but the other stuff seemed to work.
I've tried it a few times over the past 2 days and am very impressed. The website worked great... no problems connecting for me. Also, the GPS was right on!
I've been using it for about a week and a half now its pretty awesome i think, i had some problems backing up my contacts but got that fixed, other than that it works flawlessly for me.
Ok I see what I did wrong, you have to put +15556667777 (+1 for state side) to log in.
As for tracking, it worked really good for me.. only off by like 7 feet. Had no problems backing up contacts, sms, etc. Works good for me. hopefully i'll never really have to use it but if I do I have trust i'll find my phone in no time.
wow that's pretty nice. free even.
Tortri said:
Ok I see what I did wrong, you have to put +15556667777 (+1 for state side) to log in.
As for tracking, it worked really good for me.. only off by like 7 feet. Had no problems backing up contacts, sms, etc. Works good for me. hopefully i'll never really have to use it but if I do I have trust i'll find my phone in no time.
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Yep. And When you get the country code or number wrong, they charge it as an international text, which you have to pay for. So be careful when inputting those numbers!
I also found that the app works extremely well, downloaded it the first night I had the phone.
has anyone compared wave secure, mobile defense, or lookout mobile? Do they all do the same thing?
Seems like a pretty good app from using it for a bit. Only problem I have is that the GPS can only be updated 4 times a day. Would seem pretty hard to track someone down if you cant update the position that often.
cronin4392 said:
Seems like a pretty good app from using it for a bit. Only problem I have is that the GPS can only be updated 4 times a day. Would seem pretty hard to track someone down if you cant update the position that often.
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that is where mobile defense comes in. You can pretty much stream an active location through mobile defense. getting better the longer it stays on.
Un-Installing?
Would the remote wipe and location features work if the "thief" removed the application from their phone?
Doubt it, unless you password your screen so they can't get access to do that. But then they might try a different sim card at which point they will see the screen about returning it. But if this person knows anything about the android system, couldn't they just unlock it, replace the bootloader and format the phone, regardless if its locked or not??
Guess you better hope that last couple GPS locations is his house or work..
How would this work?
Say someone straight up steals my phone, i put it down, turn to grab something, turn back and its gone. ok, GPS... i know where the SOB lives. Then what, call the cops? Wouldn't I need a IMEI and serial to prove its mine? Wouldn't the cops need a search warrant to look in his house to find your phone?? Or should I just bust down his door and beat the crap out of him?
How would it go down to get it back?
Beware of the hidden cost
BTW unless they have changed it but every time you receive a txt from wavesure you will get charged.
I know they have stop it for the US, can't confirm for the rest of the world.
jeux_1 said:
BTW unless they have changed it but every time you receive a txt from wavesure you will get charged.
I know they have stop it for the US, can't confirm for the rest of the world.
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charged by wavesecure or standard sms rates from the carrier?
I believe it is a foreign received txt. you were getting charged like 20 cents.
It was on a forum where wavesecure was participating.
They changed it in the US but I am unsure for the rest of the world.
I will find the forum once I am back home.
jeux_1 said:
I believe it is a foreign received txt. you were getting charged like 20 cents.
It was on a forum where wavesecure was participating.
They changed it in the US but I am unsure for the rest of the world.
I will find the forum once I am back home.
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yeah it is free

Remote task29 as security

Hi Guys
Is there a application that could execute a remote task29 if phone gets stolen?
Most of theves are dump so would not know how to put the OS back on.
The normal way of IMEI blocking does not work, some networks will not care to block, some will not communicate to others so it will be blocked for example on O2 but not t-mobile... We all also know that you just need to sell a IMEI blocked unit abroad.
Two functions would need to be present:
Function 1 a remote wipe so you send a txt message.
Function 2 is to wipe the phone if new sim is inserted and password is not provided. Such software would need to be able to cook itself in to rom.
Second possibility for Function 2 is each time new sim is inserted a txt message is sent on pre-arranged mobile number and then use remote wipe.
lookout mobile security has that feature of remote wipe.
www.mylookout.com
antivirus, remote wipe, and gps locator all work.
nrfitchett4 said:
lookout mobile security has that feature of remote wipe.
www.mylookout.com
antivirus, remote wipe, and gps locator all work.
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It is not even remotely the same as even if you do wipe the device it is still usable, there is just you data erased. I am talking OS erased so phone does not work, so you can get it to bootloader and only if you know how.
ruscik said:
It is not even remotely the same as even if you do wipe the device it is still usable, there is just you data erased. I am talking OS erased so phone does not work, so you can get it to bootloader and only if you know how.
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considering you cannot even task29 unless you are synced to a computer, how do you suppose this can be accomplished???
nrfitchett4 said:
considering you cannot even task29 unless you are synced to a computer, how do you suppose this can be accomplished???
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I am not a software developer but I would say a app that works just before OS boots.
TBH task29 seems like the best idea as if you were to get the phone back you could get it back online but any app that would brick the phone remotely is what one needs.
I am quite certain something like that could be done.
why not have it flash a bricking radio from sd card or within the rom, if the command is send?
how about an app then makes the phone transform into a plane and fly back to you?
its impossible what you are asking for afaik
davidgk said:
how about an app then makes the phone transform into a plane and fly back to you?
its impossible what you are asking for afaik
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Bolox I can flash radio or OS from SD card. All a app would need to do is get phone to bootloader on command and have, as suggested, a bricked rom for radio on SD card. A bricked radio rom would not need to be big in size so a cab installer would work.
Its a very good idea, hope some1 can do it..
my hats off to you sir, a very good idea!
Now if there is only a developer skilled enough to realise it!
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Bolox I can flash radio or OS from SD card. All a app would need to do is get phone to bootloader on command and have, as suggested, a bricked rom for radio on SD card. A bricked radio rom would not need to be big in size so a cab installer would work.
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but what does this achieve for you???
A phone wiping program would wipe personal data.
What would bricking the phone do except make the phone unusable?
You'll still be out a phone...
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but what does this achieve for you???
A phone wiping program would wipe personal data.
What would bricking the phone do except make the phone unusable?
You'll still be out a phone...
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Might be so, but if knowledge gets around that more and more phones can (and will) be bricked remotely once stolen, why steal?
I think it would be a very useful feature on any phone.
So I agree with the question for such an app.
Regards,
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but what does this achieve for you???
A phone wiping program would wipe personal data.
What would bricking the phone do except make the phone unusable?
You'll still be out a phone...
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Well why do you fit a alarm on a car when it is gone it is gone, why do you put alarm in a house when they come they come.
Something odd with this statement. Why would you think it is ok for some one who stole my phone to use it when I had to work for it?
For me best solution would be to have it wired with C4 and 5s in to first phone call boom!!!
As that would be illegal second option brick the phone.
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Well why do you fit a alarm on a car when it is gone it is gone, why do you put alarm in a house when they come they come.
Something odd with this statement. Why would you think it is ok for some one who stole my phone to use it when I had to work for it?
For me best solution would be to have it wired with C4 and 5s in to first phone call boom!!!
As that would be illegal second option brick the phone.
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Since when does a car alarm or home alarm burn down my house or car? That is essentially the same thing. If someone breaks into my house and steals my 60" dlp, I can't remote detonate it either.
I'm guessing that I don't understand. Maybe it is my long history with cdma phones that had esn's that could be blocked making the phones worthless (usually) once stolen.
Ill build it .... i just need a few beta testers?
Any takers?
jk.. i actually like the idea of disabling my phone if i knew it was gone for sure. .but i dont think i would be comfortable running around with this bomb in my phone unless i knew how to fix it.. and a bricked radio (easiest remote detonate solution) is obviously unfixable.
you know I was hoping this topic was headed in a different direction. like the phone company or microsoft running ras commands. like injecting and changing your files around so when you go to flash the seed will be planted for later execution. but dude if your phone gets stolen beat the punk bastards ass. or make sure you have handset protection. stupid topic. its just gonna add to the bricked my phone posts but not before they go on a couple of paragraphs of how they know what there doing but this and but that. wow then its gonna keep spreading like a ****ing plauge of dumb ass questions instead of keeping their cocksucker shut and read and learn. if your not f-ing it up, then your not learning.
i remember the sony ericsson p910, p990, and p1i could have set a sim password that works the same way the bios password works on most laptops with this feature... once the sim changed or the phone is flashed, the password must be entered to boot into the OS, personally i think this should be standard on every mobile OS...
and regardless how much times you reinstall windows, flash the bios, or remove the bios battery, the password remains, kinda annoying but at least it works
There are already some really good apps available for if your phone is lost or stolen. I don't know the names off the top of my head but I did some help on development on one 2 years ago and it was quite advanced and will send you silent text containing the new IME number if changed and the GPS location. Rendering the phone useless would be stupid in my opinion if you intend on retrieving it. let the security software do it's job and be happy to get your phone back.

Shocker on my last phone bill, malware in rom?

Shocker on my latest phonebill. My phone have sent allot of sms too 0020000001 (egypt) since 2011-09-28 too 2011-10-18. Seems to have stopped now when I use senseless. Used bulletproof before if there was some app incuded in that relese. :-/
I've been using all of the ROMs available in the dev section.
Still have zero text messages and 1 phone call (test on the day I got it, to my other cell) on my whole account history.
Confirmed with t-mobile.
Outgoing, which is the issue I assume - get text messages from T-mo, working on putting a stop to this.
It took some serious effort and a threat of cancellation to t-mo to get them to stop calling me, but the only incoming calls I've ever had to this phone were from t-mo, and I never answered.
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Shocker on my latest phonebill. My phone have sent allot of sms too 0020000001 (egypt) since 2011-09-28 too 2011-10-18. Seems to have stopped now when I use senseless. Used bulletproof before if there was some app incuded in that relese. :-/
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You shoulda flashed my security patch in dev section. I dont know why romanbb never updated his rom with the security patch? I was all over that the day of.
Sent from my Senseless Doubleshot using xda premium
Strange it is anyway. Found this thread where they mentioned the same number. I don't use T-Mobile though.
http://t-mobilesupportalcommunity2.hosted.jivesoftware.com/thread/2323?start=0&tstart=0
and
http://support.t-mobile.com/message/45799
But they all say from egypt. Not sent to?
i'm also having the problem, but i did apply the fix and even after that, i still have this sms. In my case is worse then people from t-mobile, because o2 dont have a "real time" or almost real time controll, which means that i need to wait the bill to see the crap. they dont have any controll for people who had plans, only pre paid. this month was 5 euros only with this ****..
i readed the posts on tmobile forum, its seems to be a program, but i'm not sure.. nobody is.
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i'm also having the problem, but i did apply the fix and even after that, i still have this sms. In my case is worse then people from t-mobile, because o2 dont have a "real time" or almost real time controll, which means that i need to wait the bill to see the crap. they dont have any controll for people who had plans, only pre paid. this month was 5 euros only with this ****..
i readed the posts on tmobile forum, its seems to be a program, but i'm not sure.. nobody is.
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Check ALL of your installed applications for any that have permission to send SMS messages:
http://developer.android.com/reference/android/Manifest.permission.html#SEND_SMS
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Post them ALL here, then DELETE.
dhkr234 said:
Check ALL of your installed applications for any that have permission to send SMS messages:
http://developer.android.com/reference/android/Manifest.permission.html#SEND_SMS
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Post them ALL here, then DELETE.
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i'll take a look and tell you back, but just more information: Before my MT4GS i had a Desire HD and i NEVER had this kind of problem with it. and so far i remember, i used the same programs on Desire HD, so.. it shouldnt be a programm problem, at least not which i had installed.
Now i'm using the virtual unity rom, which doesnt had the zipwhip thing, which the people on tmobile/tcom forum accused be the problem.
the programs that i used so far was: öffi, call meter ng, safewallet, ebuddy, foursquare, facebook, twitter, quickboot, sms back and restore, viber, whatsapp, heywire, adfree. I also had on the device but i dont use frequently: convertpad, currencyconverter, dein taxi, weather bug, androzip, mytaxi, barcodescan, scan life barcode, roboform, wm ftp client, db navigator, es explorer, skype, shazam.
and yesterday i also installed autorunmanager and super manager, to try to disable or uninstall the zipwhip thing.
i'll look the permissions on all this apps and i'll post here. The thing is, since i install yesterday a new rom and i didnt put every program back, can i see this on google market?
dhkr234 said:
Check ALL of your installed applications for any that have permission to send SMS messages:
http://developer.android.com/reference/android/Manifest.permission.html#SEND_SMS
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So, i recovered the old rom backup with the old programs, took off my simcard and installed a few permission viewer programs.
The list from Permission Explorer to send sms permissions are:
brcmbluetoothservices (com.broadcom.bt.app.system), doubleshotandroidzipgroups (com.zipwhip.zipgroups.doubleshot -this is the one from zipwhip, which people think, that the problem is), dragon dictation (com.nuance.vsuite - no idea what is it),mail (com.htc.android.mail), messages (com.android.mms), messages app group tab (com.zipwhip.zipgroups.doubleshot.plugins.messages), messages widget (com.htc.htcmsgwidget3d), my account (com.nuanc.nmc.sihome), phone (com.android.phone), plugin sample(com.android.messagetab), scanlife(com.scanlife), t-mobile device carbon(com.zipwhip.devicecarbon.tmobile), viber(com.viber.voip), whatsapp(com.whatsapp), voice search(com.google.android.voicesearch).
it was kind of weird that scanlife, something to scan barcodes just can send sms, but i had this program since the desire hd without problems, so.. i'm not sure that could be the problem anyway..
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Well i did some tests with a prepaid o2 card (then i can check the credits) and after i uninstalled viber and whatsapp, restarted the cell, i still have the problem. Then, uninstalled the scanlife, restart, still the problem. Then i uninstalled everything with doubleshotandroidzipgroups, zipgroup, zipwhip.. and again restart.. credits didnt change, so its seems, people have right, this program cause the sms problem. but i can understand why not everyone had the problem, since in almost all roms (except the virtuous rom ported from desire s) had this software.
I asked to a few friends, who used android gingerbread, but not a MT4GS and any of then had this zipwhip programs or anything like this..
kt666 said:
So, i recovered the old rom backup with the old programs, took off my simcard and installed a few permission viewer programs.
The list from Permission Explorer to send sms permissions are:
brcmbluetoothservices (com.broadcom.bt.app.system), doubleshotandroidzipgroups (com.zipwhip.zipgroups.doubleshot -this is the one from zipwhip, which people think, that the problem is), dragon dictation (com.nuance.vsuite - no idea what is it),mail (com.htc.android.mail), messages (com.android.mms), messages app group tab (com.zipwhip.zipgroups.doubleshot.plugins.messages), messages widget (com.htc.htcmsgwidget3d), my account (com.nuanc.nmc.sihome), phone (com.android.phone), plugin sample(com.android.messagetab), scanlife(com.scanlife), t-mobile device carbon(com.zipwhip.devicecarbon.tmobile), viber(com.viber.voip), whatsapp(com.whatsapp), voice search(com.google.android.voicesearch).
it was kind of weird that scanlife, something to scan barcodes just can send sms, but i had this program since the desire hd without problems, so.. i'm not sure that could be the problem anyway..
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Well i did some tests with a prepaid o2 card (then i can check the credits) and after i uninstalled viber and whatsapp, restarted the cell, i still have the problem. Then, uninstalled the scanlife, restart, still the problem. Then i uninstalled everything with doubleshotandroidzipgroups, zipgroup, zipwhip.. and again restart.. credits didnt change, so its seems, people have right, this program cause the sms problem. but i can understand why not everyone had the problem, since in almost all roms (except the virtuous rom ported from desire s) had this software.
I asked to a few friends, who used android gingerbread, but not a MT4GS and any of then had this zipwhip programs or anything like this..
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Ok, so looks like you've tracked down the malware. WTF is a "zipwhip"?
Edit: Holy crap, just read their website. Might not be malware (or it might be), but definitely a braindead idea since it does weird multi-directional SMS insanity.
Anyway, the reason it doesn't happen with Undeadk9's rom is that he stripped that crap out of it.
Somebody at HTC and/or tmobile need to be FIRED for this one.
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Ok, so looks like you've tracked down the malware. WTF is a "zipwhip"?
Edit: Holy crap, just read their website. Might not be malware (or it might be), but definitely a braindead idea since it does weird multi-directional SMS insanity.
Anyway, the reason it doesn't happen with Undeadk9's rom is that he stripped that crap out of it.
Somebody at HTC and/or tmobile need to be FIRED for this one.
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i cannot say for sure, but the roms sense on crack and senseless still have this one (at least, until the roms from yesterday, because i downloaded then for a test).
The weird thing is that doesnt happen with ALL people. but tmobile is experiencing a lot of problems with this crap. but since i bought the cellphone in USA and live in germany and my operator here is o2, maybe they will say: isnt our problem and make me paid this 6 euros this time..
Nice to know what the reason was. Will stick to Undeahk9's roms then.
kt666 said:
i cannot say for sure, but the roms sense on crack and senseless still have this one (at least, until the roms from yesterday, because i downloaded then for a test).
The weird thing is that doesnt happen with ALL people. but tmobile is experiencing a lot of problems with this crap. but since i bought the cellphone in USA and live in germany and my operator here is o2, maybe they will say: isnt our problem and make me paid this 6 euros this time..
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Have tried with my operator. That was exactly what they said. They refereed to: http://support.t-mobile.com/thread/6619?start=75&tstart=0 Said follow the outcome, it is T-Mobiles problem or change to another phone.
Last month i wrote to o2, complaining about it and requesting a solution and from where or who this number was.. they gave me a credit after a few lines like: it could be cause by a bad software, blablabla, you are responsable for everything that you install on yout phone, blablabla, but since you are a good costumer and we want you happy, we will give you the credit.
Now i'm waiting the new answer about the problem, since i wrote asking for a SOLUTION and not just a credit and they just said we will give you a credit and thats it.. they didnt offer me to put the number in a blacklist, or any kind of solution. then i'll try to at least become the credit back. and if they dont give me, i'll complain with t-mobile USA, because this is a big mistake and could be avoided.
did you tried contact with tmobile us?
kt666 said:
Last month i wrote to o2, complaining about it and requesting a solution and from where or who this number was.. they gave me a credit after a few lines like: it could be cause by a bad software, blablabla, you are responsable for everything that you install on yout phone, blablabla, but since you are a good costumer and we want you happy, we will give you the credit.
Now i'm waiting the new answer about the problem, since i wrote asking for a SOLUTION and not just a credit and they just said we will give you a credit and thats it.. they didnt offer me to put the number in a blacklist, or any kind of solution. then i'll try to at least become the credit back. and if they dont give me, i'll complain with t-mobile USA, because this is a big mistake and could be avoided.
did you tried contact with tmobile us?
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No I haven't. But I finally got compensation as goodwill. If if happens again I think I have to contact T-mobile.
Paitor said:
No I haven't. But I finally got compensation as goodwill. If if happens again I think I have to contact T-mobile.
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thats great. lets see what happen with me.
what i dont get it why it just happen with some MT4GS and not everyone who use one..
kt666 said:
thats great. lets see what happen with me.
what i dont get it why it just happen with some MT4GS and not everyone who use one..
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This puzzles me as well.
I've definitely checked, and rechecked with T-Mo to make sure i'm not having this issue, especially after reading through this thread and all the links provided.
Seems like many people are having the issue, yet many others are not.
Hopefully if people keep posting little details they come across about the problem we can eventually find a common link that binds together all the people having issues.
Stuff like this is of concern to me, and while I haven't been posting because i've had nothing else constructive to add, i've been keeping up and playing along looking for an opportunity to help.
Best of luck to all of you, keep sharing and we'll get to the bottom of it eventually.
Got no issues with the Zipwhip "Groups" software.
I can confirm that I've had this issue show up this month, and I'm using UndeadK9's AOSP Gone Crazy on Sense ROM. I don't run anything outside the norm for a superuser (memory manager, task killer, busybox, spare parts etc).
I have similar problems in my MT4GS. Soon after receiving the phone few days back, I started noticing the charges for incoming messages from Egypt on my online account. These messages never show up in the phone, I only see the charges on line. T-mobile officially announced (support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-2882) that they will not give customer any credit back for the messages, even though it is generated by some bloatware they installed on device.
These messages created $2 charged in 5 days...in this rate I would end up paying $12 to t-mobile for nothing. In fact, I found this forum while desperately looking for a solution. It is a t-mobile phone, it is a t-mobile service, it is a t-mobile installed bloatware and they will charge customers $12 a month. Is it sort of technique to force customers to signup for $10 unlimited text service?
Reading this forum gave me some hope. I guess I will have to root the phone and use Titanium Backup to freeze all ZipWhip apps. One of my neighbors said that he was successful in stopping these charges by freezing all ZipWhip apps.
babubangla said:
I have similar problems in my MT4GS. Soon after receiving the phone few days back, I started noticing the charges for incoming messages from Egypt on my online account. These messages never show up in the phone, I only see the charges on line. T-mobile officially announced (support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-2882) that they will not give customer any credit back for the messages, even though it is generated by some bloatware they installed on device.
These messages created $2 charged in 5 days...in this rate I would end up paying $12 to t-mobile for nothing. In fact, I found this forum while desperately looking for a solution. It is a t-mobile phone, it is a t-mobile service, it is a t-mobile installed bloatware and they will charge customers $12 a month. Is it sort of technique to force customers to signup for $10 unlimited text service?
Reading this forum gave me some hope. I guess I will have to root the phone and use Titanium Backup to freeze all ZipWhip apps. One of my neighbors said that he was successful in stopping these charges by freezing all ZipWhip apps.
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if you need some help, just write to me. i removed everything from this **** on my cellphone, even before i change to another rom.
my problem was: i HAVE unlimited text messages on my cellphone (its already on my o2 contract) but this DOESNT cover the international sms, whats mean that problably t-mobile also had something like it, you will pay for unlimited sms but not international one, whats mean, that you still have to paid for their crap work.
i didnt know that they said, that they wouldnt give the money back.. people from usa, who had this issue should suit tmobile. i would.

Galaxy Xcover 4 is driving me insane

I work for an NGO in The Gambia. Every year, a company gives us their decommissioned phones as a gift. We equip them with a few apps, switch the phones to English, and if necessary make a good one out of two broken phones. After we send everything to the Gambia and distribute it to our staff.
About me, I am an IT system technician, I am well versed in the administration of Windows and Linux systems and have many years of professional experience. But I'm only marginally familiar with Android systems, I've played around with ADB a bit or rooted my own phone, but nothing more.
This year we received, among other things, 6 Samsung Galaxy XCover 4 mobile phones. Of these, 5 are blocked, obviously the mobiles had been reset to factory settings. Of course they didn't know that the Google accounts had to be removed BEFORE!
I didn't even know the term FRP until a few days ago. Odin was also a foreign word for me and I had never loaded firmware into a mobile before.
I've learned a lot since then but of course I still don't have a clue.
I suggest that these phones now have a security level that successfully repels all known ways of entering the system. Especially with this tip I had high hopes that this could lead to success: (https://github.com/wuseman/Samsung.Xcover.4-FrpBypass), but that doesn't work either.
Neither does the original of this idea at https://www.hardreset.info/devices/...le-verification/frp-samsung-android-8-2020/?p =5
For the latter, I had specially simulated a battery, because it is almost impossible to insert the SIM card with the battery inserted. But as I said, all unsuccessful.
I thought a solution could be to downgrade the operating system so that one of the exploits could now work again. That's why I started experimenting with Odin. And only Stock FW. I found it here e.g. https://www.sammobile.com/samsung/galaxy-xcover-4/firmware/SM-G390F/DBT/#SM-G390F.
However, the attempt to downgrade within an Android version already fails. So if Android 9 U5 is on the cell phone and I want to downgrade to U4, that's not possible. Thank goodness Odin somehow checks that and breaks off, so far I haven't lost any of the phones.
Is there a way to tweak this somehow? Or are these phones lost?
What exactly does this FRP do. Why isn't this information also deleted from the phone by flashing? Where the hell do they store the info that this phone once was used with a ****ing google account!
I lost several nights to solve this. For that lost time I could buy 5 brandnew phones, but in the meantime that is also a question of prestige.
I would be really grateful for any advice!
Klaus (from germany)
If the Google account wasn't removed it wasn't properly decommissioned!
blackhawk said:
If the Google account wasn't removed it wasn't properly decommissioned!
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Some of this phones (not the xcover) even have working exchange accounts installed. Is a small company.
Klaus D. said:
Some of this phones (not the xcover) even have working exchange accounts installed. Is a small company.
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The easiest way is to have the original users remove their Google account and maybe Samsung Knox account if applicable. It needs to all be gone.
FRP is well known and is in place to help secure devices in the event of being lost or stolen.

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