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Questions: MMS's coming from different number / Official RC30 build / Jailbreak + OTA

You see, I am having this problem where MMS's sent by someone to someone else are coming from my number and I called T-Mobile's G1 Support Dept and they want to sent me an OTA, but they need me to go into my settings and give them the exact firmware version I read there. Problem is I am jailbroken, so I didn't want to give them that, so I said I was on my cell and did not have another phone around I could use to call them back (which was actually true). So I have the following three questions:
1) Is anybody experiencing the same problem as me? Feel free to comment here or in the original post on HoFo.
2) What does the official build description read? I want to give them that one instead when I call back.
3) If I am jailbroken, is it OK to receive OTA's from T-Mobile? Will I even receive them? Will they install successfully? Will my jailbreak break?
Thanks a lot in advance!

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if you changed your phone to use the developer keyset (ie: JF's androidmod + modded rc 30), you should be fine even if they send it to you it wouldn't install because your phone now wants updates signed with the dev keys not the REAL tmob/htc keys...
I doubt it would fix your problem anyway, could somebody be "spoofing" the messages with "your caller id info" there are websites that will do this for txt, mms & even voice calls, that would be my guess.
Every once in a while the sms msg centers will just wig out and do wacky stuff from time to time, I have had messages show up hours and even days after they were sent, somebody the otherday msg'd me saying I had sent them a text, I hadn't (i checked sent msgs folder) so who knows it could have been just an anomolly.
bhang

this occurred shortly after the initial launch of the G1. some suggested wiping the phone, but not sure if that fixed the issue. maybe you could reinstall jf's RC30 and then wipe and then restore your info.... might help?

bhang said:
if you changed your phone to use the developer keyset (ie: JF's androidmod + modded rc 30), you should be fine even if they send it to you it wouldn't install because your phone now wants updates signed with the dev keys not the REAL tmob/htc keys...
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I think that's what I did, so I guess I won't be calling TMo back and I guess I'll have to live with this for now, having people I don't know message me weekly asking, "Who's this?" I just need to make sure I don't send anything compromising if I sent MMS's. *LOL*
bhang said:
I doubt it would fix your problem anyway, could somebody be "spoofing" the messages with "your caller id info" there are websites that will do this for txt, mms & even voice calls, that would be my guess.
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Not at all. In both cases, the people asking who I was because they received a picture from my number confirmed they know the person who sent it to them and they did nothing special to send those messages, just use the native Messaging application.
bhang said:
somebody the otherday msg'd me saying I had sent them a text, I hadn't (i checked sent msgs folder) so who knows it could have been just an anomolly.
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This sounds exactly like what I have been experiencing, only I have only seen it happen with MMS's, not SMS's.

korndub said:
this occurred shortly after the initial launch of the G1. some suggested wiping the phone, but not sure if that fixed the issue. maybe you could reinstall jf's RC30 and then wipe and then restore your info.... might help?
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I never saw reports of this before. Guess I missed them. See my response above. I will just wait and see what happens. Most likely, this is TMo screwing up and once enough people complain and TMo realizes the liability they have in their hands, they will move and fix this. Besides, I just saw in one of the threads that we should be able to install Cupcake, so I will explore that or wait for the next jailbreak update.

this was happening to me as well and it happened to be my father's iphone account weird, but yes i get really scared when i send my gf stuff now lol from my gmail account. i grabbed his phone to make sure he didn't see anything and just make sure it addressed to the right person when you send lol
i also input my contact into and when my father texts me (yes he just learned), the sender is my email address....odd
idk how to change it....
hbguy

I insist. 611 from your G1 and complain. T-Mobile needs to get the pressure to move enough resources to address this.

This same thing has been happening to me. I am using an iPhone with SwirlyMMS. I did notice that when people responded to me with a MMS asking me "Who is this?", according to my.t-mobile.com my texts were originating from India or Russia, but were from people's real cell phone numbers in the US. I know this, because one of the numbers in question called me and they were from NYC.

this has happend to my girlfriend a few months back and she has a tmo sidekick 3. Also, about 8 months ago my roomate was getting phone calls from all over the U.S. from people trying to reach other peole after about 10 phone calls i called his phone from mine (tmo wing at the time) and it went to someone else. I then hung up and tried a few minutes later and it went to someone different. He called t-mobile and they said they havnt recieved any other complaints and told him to restart his phone. He did, it did nothing. but over the next few days it seemed to fix itself, of t-mobile had found the problem. But back to the mms, My girlfriend now owns a G1 and just a few days ago i sent her a picture of my dog and it said it came from someone else. we both have G1's mine has root hers does not so i dont think it has anything to do with your phone.

this happened to my wife and I right around x-mas and it only lasted a few days. she relied to a text I sent and it went to NY, 'cause they called back and told us where they were from... and they had t-mobile. It quit after a couple of days and haven't had a problem with it since then.

WaveSecure..

Anyone getting an account? They are giving away lifetime membership for those who download and register.
It is basically like mobile defense (which is also great and free) but it give the option to wipe the phone & the SD card. a few months ago I lost a G1 and I would have love to be able to wipe everything.
I figured it is a must for my Nexus.
Just wanted to put it out there for those who didn't know.

Were you able to log in into their website?

I'm using it, and I'm very impressed. This is a must download app. However, the site is very slow and you often have trouble connecting to it.

Haven't tried logging into their website yet, just downloaded it today. Still at work and no access to that site. I know mobile defense was fairly simple and I figure it shouldn't be much different.

Dled , installed , and tried it out the other day. GPS was off by alot but the other stuff seemed to work.

I've tried it a few times over the past 2 days and am very impressed. The website worked great... no problems connecting for me. Also, the GPS was right on!

I've been using it for about a week and a half now its pretty awesome i think, i had some problems backing up my contacts but got that fixed, other than that it works flawlessly for me.

Ok I see what I did wrong, you have to put +15556667777 (+1 for state side) to log in.
As for tracking, it worked really good for me.. only off by like 7 feet. Had no problems backing up contacts, sms, etc. Works good for me. hopefully i'll never really have to use it but if I do I have trust i'll find my phone in no time.

wow that's pretty nice. free even.

Tortri said:
Ok I see what I did wrong, you have to put +15556667777 (+1 for state side) to log in.
As for tracking, it worked really good for me.. only off by like 7 feet. Had no problems backing up contacts, sms, etc. Works good for me. hopefully i'll never really have to use it but if I do I have trust i'll find my phone in no time.
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Yep. And When you get the country code or number wrong, they charge it as an international text, which you have to pay for. So be careful when inputting those numbers!
I also found that the app works extremely well, downloaded it the first night I had the phone.

has anyone compared wave secure, mobile defense, or lookout mobile? Do they all do the same thing?

Seems like a pretty good app from using it for a bit. Only problem I have is that the GPS can only be updated 4 times a day. Would seem pretty hard to track someone down if you cant update the position that often.

cronin4392 said:
Seems like a pretty good app from using it for a bit. Only problem I have is that the GPS can only be updated 4 times a day. Would seem pretty hard to track someone down if you cant update the position that often.
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that is where mobile defense comes in. You can pretty much stream an active location through mobile defense. getting better the longer it stays on.

Un-Installing?
Would the remote wipe and location features work if the "thief" removed the application from their phone?

Doubt it, unless you password your screen so they can't get access to do that. But then they might try a different sim card at which point they will see the screen about returning it. But if this person knows anything about the android system, couldn't they just unlock it, replace the bootloader and format the phone, regardless if its locked or not??
Guess you better hope that last couple GPS locations is his house or work..

How would this work?
Say someone straight up steals my phone, i put it down, turn to grab something, turn back and its gone. ok, GPS... i know where the SOB lives. Then what, call the cops? Wouldn't I need a IMEI and serial to prove its mine? Wouldn't the cops need a search warrant to look in his house to find your phone?? Or should I just bust down his door and beat the crap out of him?
How would it go down to get it back?

Beware of the hidden cost
BTW unless they have changed it but every time you receive a txt from wavesure you will get charged.
I know they have stop it for the US, can't confirm for the rest of the world.

jeux_1 said:
BTW unless they have changed it but every time you receive a txt from wavesure you will get charged.
I know they have stop it for the US, can't confirm for the rest of the world.
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charged by wavesecure or standard sms rates from the carrier?

I believe it is a foreign received txt. you were getting charged like 20 cents.
It was on a forum where wavesecure was participating.
They changed it in the US but I am unsure for the rest of the world.
I will find the forum once I am back home.

jeux_1 said:
I believe it is a foreign received txt. you were getting charged like 20 cents.
It was on a forum where wavesecure was participating.
They changed it in the US but I am unsure for the rest of the world.
I will find the forum once I am back home.
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yeah it is free

Engadget: Android sends texts to wrong people, murders your family while you sleep

http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/31/android-still-has-horrible-text-messaging-bugs-thatll-get-you-f/
Is this really a widespread problem, or is it more Engadget anti-Android propaganda?

Not sure but I haven't experienced it in almost a year of using several android devices.

I use Handcent, so I have no idea what they're talking about.
Sent from my Nexus S using Tapatalk

Read the source links.

For the record, I love android. I hate all the anti-android crap going around. But I have experienced this before. One time upon booting up, my contacts were all mixed up with the wrong numbers. It was so weird. My friend became my dads name on there and another friend became my cousins whom I never texted. So when they texted me I saw the names and was like wtf? How do they know about (whatever we were chatting about earlier). Took another reboot and everything was fine. I also experienced the phone clicking on the wrong thread that I pressed, that definitely happens. I've learned to double check who Im texting.

Is this fixed by using a different SMS app then? Apparently it happens with e-mails, too, but only with the default e-mail app.

I have been using an HD2, that dual boots WM 6.5 and Android 2.2 Froyo, never had this problem.
My daughter uses a Behold 2 and sends and receives over 16000 text messages per month, and never a problem like this.
I think it's more hate against Android, since it is starting to get a strong hold of the smartphone market.
I'm also sure it's a lot of user error too.

Google just updated this to critical, so I'm guessing it'll be patched pretty soon.

It happens to me at least twice a week. I actually switched to handcent it was so bad. Thankfully I never had anything truly embarrassing go to the wrong person, but I have had some confusing moment...The worst was when I carried out a long conversations with the wrong person... The problem happens when you click on the new message item in the notification menu without actually opening it up through the messaging app. You see the correct reply thread, and it is only when you press send that you realize it sent to the wrong person. This is very real, but I used to think it was just my phone.

lmao. This is just amusing.
The ONLY time I ever got the bug was when I received a new message, I used the drop down menu bar to view the message, and this was on a beta froyo build. Any time I went through the regular messaging app, everything was fine. Last I read in a forum long ago burried, only time the bug happened was when you used the drop down...

I've used Android since the G1 was released and don't remember ever experiencing this issue. But if it is an issue, then it needs media attention to get Google to fix it as quick as possible. Although, the problem is getting the fix out, since you know, all these carriers and manufacturers take forever to get an OTA out.

Google said:
Hi all,
I want to let everyone know that we are actively investigating this issue, and we hope to have an update soon. Obviously, this is a very difficult to reproduce bug.
Rather than replying "me too", you can star this issue to follow it. Just saying "me too" just obscures the useful information in this bug, and makes it harder to fix. Of course, if you have useful information to add to the bug, such as a system dump or an insightful analysis of the code, feel free to update the bug with your observations.
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So they are now investigating this. I'll be using Handcent on my DHD until they sort it.

tooter1 said:
I have been using an HD2, that dual boots WM 6.5 and Android 2.2 Froyo, never had this problem.
My daughter uses a Behold 2 and sends and receives over 16000 text messages per month, and never a problem like this.
I think it's more hate against Android, since it is starting to get a strong hold of the smartphone market.
I'm also sure it's a lot of user error too.
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16,000? I'm sure most networks in the UK have a 3,000 FUP
Anyway, I haven't experienced this issue in the 18 months I've been using Android

LooieENG said:
16,000? I'm sure most networks in the UK have a 3,000 FUP
Anyway, I haven't experienced this issue in the 18 months I've been using Android
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I can believe 16,000. My 17 year old sister has about 10,000 a month. Unlimited texting, ftw.

I've been using Android since the release of the HTC Dream in Canada and I've never ever ever ran into this problem, and most of the ROMs I've ran have been beta or experimental. I'm thinking they're blowing it out of proportion.

TheBiles said:
I can believe 16,000. My 17 year old sister has about 10,000 a month. Unlimited texting, ftw.
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When we were on Verizon, one month it was up to 39,000. I was floored. That is when I was like thank goodness for.....Unlimited Texting FTW!
Still no problems like this.

I've never had this problem and Goggle has made a press release and said they are having a hard time replicating it. I think that there could be an error that happens once in a blue moon, but I think most of the time it's just user error.
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TheBiles said:
I can believe 16,000. My 17 year old sister has about 10,000 a month. Unlimited texting, ftw.
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Oh yeah, I believe it. I'm just curious as to how their fingers haven't worn to the bone yet?

Googles claiming they can't reproduce this internally and they've only upped it's status cause of bad publicity. That's what androidguys claim ...
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Yeah sometimes when I get a message I click on the thing in the drop down menu and it takes me to another thread, but I'm pretty sure the point of clicking that button is just for it to get you to the messaging app. Also sometimes I go to the messaging app and click the top thread and it takes me to a different thread. So this bug is true at times.

[FIX] Missing Carrier Billing Option in New Leaked Android Market (T-mobile USA)

Some people have been reporting that the carrier billing option no longer shows for them in the new version of the market. This very issue happened to me as well, but there is a fix. Here it is:
Open application management > select the market app > force close it > clear cache > clear data > turn off wifi (if its on) > make sure you have 3g/4g signal (not edge) > open market and except the terms
Carrier billing will be working again, just give the market a min. to finish syncing your account by leaving the main page open (again just like a min). Now verify it worked by checking any US app (apps produced outside the US can't be billed to tmo).

Hasnt fixed the issue for me :'(

Are you sure you followed the instructions exactly? One piece out of place and it won't work. This method worked for me and I can even repeat it 100% of the time (if you uninstall the update and reinstall it you have to do this again to get it working). Not to mention it has worked for other users.

This worked for me, thanks!

if the vendor is not US based I don't think you can bill to Tmo...
also, on the confirmation page, hit the credit card line. you'll get a pop up with a choice of either to bill your credit card or tmo.
sometimes people miss that part...

POST CORRECTION: It works. As Mainspring pointed out, if you try to buy an app from a non-US based vendor, you can't charge to your T-Mobile US account. Just tried a few different apps, and sure enough - one of them let me buy by charging to my T-Mobile account.
A good clue is the pricing - if it's something like $.99, it's probably a US vendor, while something like $1.39 is most likely a vendor outside the US.
Seems to be new to this version of the Market - I seem to recall being able to charge ANY app to my T-mo account, not just US based apps...

kevsteele said:
POST CORRECTION: It works. As Mainspring pointed out, if you try to buy an app from a non-US based vendor, you can't charge to your T-Mobile US account. Just tried a few different apps, and sure enough - one of them let me buy by charging to my T-Mobile account.
A good clue is the pricing - if it's something like $.99, it's probably a US vendor, while something like $1.39 is most likely a vendor outside the US
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did you miss this in the first post:
Behold_this said:
Now verify it worked by checking any US app (apps produced outside the US can't be billed to tmo).
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Read it later Pro is the app that I tried to buy to test if this fixed my phone and I can not buy it on my phone but I work for T-Mobile and tested the same app on demo phones and co-workers phones and they can bill that app to their account. So I'm not sure why it wont work for my phone and as far as I know I did it exactly how I'm suppose to by fallowing the instructions, even tried multiple times so I have no idea what I am doing wrong

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Read it later Pro is the app that I tried to buy to test if this fixed my phone and I can not buy it on my phone but I work for T-Mobile and tested the same app on demo phones and co-workers phones and they can bill that app to their account. So I'm not sure why it wont work for my phone and as far as I know I did it exactly how I'm suppose to by fallowing the instructions, even tried multiple times so I have no idea what I am doing wrong
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Hmmm, wonder what's wrong. I just checked that app in my market and I can bill it to my tmobile account...very strange.

Behold_this said:
Hmmm, wonder what's wrong. I just checked that app in my market and I can bill it to my tmobile account...very strange.
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Yeah I'm not sure I'm starting to think it's something T-Mobile screwed up. They added Family Allowances to my account (Bro downloaded $63.96 in apps on his Nokia!!) but it's set up that my line can still download with no limitations on my end and they said it was right on theirs too.
Worst part is they took it off now and I still cant bill to the account even after trying this, uninstalling updates then trying this again, fresh install of the old market and trying this AGAIN! I'm gonna be pissed if I can no longer bill to the account. T-Mobile is looking into it but they blame Google/Android which isn't true cuz I signed my account into a dummy phone at work and it was fine.

Thank you so much!

Gotta love xda thanks man it worked flawlessly
Turn off WiFi
Applications
Market
Force close
Clear cache
3G/4G connection
Accept terms done thanks man
It works guys ..
Now time for them 10c apps lmao

I am not get in the carrier purchasing option even after doing the said steps. Could it be that I am running miui? Anyone else experiencing the same issue?
Sent from my Sensation using XDA App

Thanks, worked perfect

try to uninstall update
My market updated by itself and the Tmobile option wasn't available so I:
Turned off WiFi,
Turned 4G on,
Applications => Market => Uninstall Updates,
Opened market immediately and searched Where's My Water (10c app ),
and the option to purchase using Tmobile was there.. of course I opened market again later on and it was the new market(with no Tmo option) but it does works this way.

dcwiker05 said:
Yeah I'm not sure I'm starting to think it's something T-Mobile screwed up. They added Family Allowances to my account (Bro downloaded $63.96 in apps on his Nokia!!) but it's set up that my line can still download with no limitations on my end and they said it was right on theirs too.
Worst part is they took it off now and I still cant bill to the account even after trying this, uninstalling updates then trying this again, fresh install of the old market and trying this AGAIN! I'm gonna be pissed if I can no longer bill to the account. T-Mobile is looking into it but they blame Google/Android which isn't true cuz I signed my account into a dummy phone at work and it was fine.
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Just file a trouble ticket..they can fix it..happened to me 2 months ago..they fixed it in less than a week.

Still a successful method to get it working today...
Prior to trying the original poster's method I was unable to bill to my carrier (T-Mobile). However, after multiple attempts at this method it finally worked. Now I am able to bill to my carrier again after switching ROMs. Thanks.

ggfb20 said:
Prior to trying the original poster's method I was unable to bill to my carrier (T-Mobile). However, after multiple attempts at this method it finally worked. Now I am able to bill to my carrier again after switching ROMs. Thanks.
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Awesome! Always like to hear success stories.

dcwiker05 said:
Yeah I'm not sure I'm starting to think it's something T-Mobile screwed up. They added Family Allowances to my account (Bro downloaded $63.96 in apps on his Nokia!!) but it's set up that my line can still download with no limitations on my end and they said it was right on theirs too.
Worst part is they took it off now and I still cant bill to the account even after trying this, uninstalling updates then trying this again, fresh install of the old market and trying this AGAIN! I'm gonna be pissed if I can no longer bill to the account. T-Mobile is looking into it but they blame Google/Android which isn't true cuz I signed my account into a dummy phone at work and it was fine.
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Can a Android phone be programmed to steal subscriber info ?

Hi all. Long time no see
Well, to sum it up : a few years ago I bought a phone on the cheap, which turned out to be a chinese copy of a Galaxy Note 7.
Not having much use for it (it didn't have accelerometers nor magnetometer neither GPS apparently) it stayed in a drawer for 3-4 years before I decided to give it to a family member, who had to go to her phone operator's shop to get a new SIM card, as the old one was too big.A few days later, she gets a SMS from the operator saying that she is in overuse of international phone calls (she never phones out of country, she uses Whatsapp for that), all toward Tunisia, and had racked up a bill of 650€ and counting ! :O
Luckily she won't have to pay them, as while she was at the shop in order to inquire, 3 new calls had been placed in the meantime. But she had to get a new SIM and have her number changed as well.
I thought -and the shop as well- that her SIM subscriber ID had been stolen, but I wonder how this happened : either the guy at the shop who switched her SIM cards did it (possible, as he told her to wait 15-20mins to be activated. When she got the new SIM with a new number from another clerk there was no wait involved), or somehow the phone forwarded the SIM data to a hacker who used it to clone the original SIM.
Since I've found no info about that on the web, I wanted the adice of experts in the matter.
So what d'you think, guys ? Any input appreciated. Thx !

Did she have the CCP virus yet?
WYSIWYG. Deep six ditch the phone.
Change all account passwords once she gets the new phone.
Not only firmware rootkits but the possibility of embedded hardware backdoors. The former can be removed, the latter not. This piece of junk isn't worth the risks!

blackhawk said:
Did she have the CCP virus yet?
WYSIWYG. Deep six ditch the phone.
Change all account passwords once she gets the new phone.
Not only firmware rootkits but the possibility of embedded hardware backdoors. The former can be removed, the latter not. This piece of junk isn't worth the risks!
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Thx !
Do you know of any methods to analyse the phone and confirm this, perhaps ?

Snakeforhire said:
Thx !
Do you know of any methods to analyse the phone and confirm this, perhaps ?
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Malwarebytes. You already know it's compromised.
You could try reflashing the rom to a know good version.
The user themselves could have downloaded a rootkit... no saving dumb bunnies.
Be careful what you download and the apps you load.

blackhawk said:
Malwarebytes. You already know it's compromised.
You could try reflashing the rom to a know good version.
The user themselves could have downloaded a rootkit... no saving dumb bunnies.
Be careful what you download and the apps you load.
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only app that was downloaded was Whatsapp bcoz she needed it, she doesn't know how to install other apps (she's a 60+yr gramma)

Snakeforhire said:
only app that was downloaded was Whatsapp bcoz she needed it, she doesn't know how to install other apps (she's a 60+yr gramma)
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I won't let WhatsApp near my phone.
I was born at night but not last night... someone might have tricked her into downloading something maybe to view a vid etc. Social engineering and malware go hand in hand.
WhatsApp members are wholly unvetted.