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[Q] Sony SW2 as an independent device ?

Hello,
I m a mobile developer, and I would like to develop an app for a family need : a medicament reminder, using NFC.
The idea is :
- Display/notify with a reminder when a medicament have to be taken
- This reminder can be canceled only with NFC, that would be the pill box. (can be snoozed or really canceled without the box if needed of course)
The thing is that would be for a person without a smartphone, as a watch is much more easy to always keep.
The point that will decide if I write this app or not is the following:
Can the Sony SW2 be a independent device using the NFC feature ?
The app could be installed + configured from a computer, but then the SW2 would be used only as a normal watch but with this app as a special feature.

Please consider that without owning a smartphone the SW2 doesn't even start: bluetooth pairing is needed just out of the box.
No direct NFC use is currently possible: I suspect that the SW2 behaves passively just like a NFC tag.
Alternatively, you could try to develop an app that loads data from a smartphone (not a computer) but then could also work without an active BT connection, e.g. a schedule reminder.

Thanks for the answer.
I own a smarthphone, so then when I install the app I could use it to start the watch.
But "No direct NFC use is currently possible" makes it much less interesting to me...
Alternatively, you could try to develop an app that loads data from a smartphone (not a computer) but then could also work without an active BT connection, e.g. a schedule reminder.
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Yes that's a possibility, but it removes all the interesting point of the feature, making the alarm stoppable only on very precise conditions (here the nfc...)

I m really not familiar with this environment, but does anyone knows if that could be doable using another os/firmware ?
Using the open-smartwatch-project or what is proposed on the github underverk / SmartWatch ? (cannot yet post link because of spam prevention)

Is there a simple to use watchface creation app?

Are there any apps like watchmaker https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=slide.watchFrenzy.premium that are compatable or availble for the Gear S2?
It would be nice to have a simple to use app on my phone that allows me to create watch faces, custom inset dials, animation etc, just like the watch faces that are available to purchase from the samsung gear app.
What application are the developers of those watch faces using to create those faces?
I know that you can use the website Mr timemaker to make custome watch faces but thats a little limited in its customisations.
Thanks.

Yeah, I'd like to know too...

I haven't created any apps for the S2 (yet), but did see a tutorial for creating a simple watch face on the Tizen developers site using just HTML 5 and JavaScript. A watch face is essentially an HTML canvas element, so it is simply a matter of layering images and vector objects to achieve the design.
I'm typing this on my phone, but will post a link to the tutorial tomorrow.
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The only decent one(with digital options!) is the Gear Watch Designer. Pretty easy to use, and there's tutorials if you get stuck. Animations are super choppy since they're capped at 15fps but using the watch hands for circular animations and setting movement to sweep smooths them out.
http://developer.samsung.com/gear/gear-watch-designer

walther1337 said:
The only decent one(with digital options!) is the Gear Watch Designer. Pretty easy to use, and there's tutorials if you get stuck. Animations are super choppy since they're capped at 15fps but using the watch hands for circular animations and setting movement to sweep smooths them out.
http://developer.samsung.com/gear/gear-watch-designer
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I've been looking for a tool like this. Pretty much gave up hope for making my own watch faces. Thanks for pointing this out, can't wait to give it a try.

Many thanks for this link walther1337. :good:
Will have a read of the tutorial and give this a go.

The program is VERY buggy on Windows 10 and crashes a lot, but it works. Just finished my first watch face, finally can have what I want easily. Thanks again for pointing it out walther1337

Where you able to deploy it to your S2?

stranula said:
The program is VERY buggy on Windows 10 and crashes a lot, but it works. Just finished my first watch face, finally can have what I want easily. Thanks again for pointing it out walther1337
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Please share your files. I really like this design. Many thanks!

You're welcome. Seems like Samsung never updates the program since its still version 1.0(their support for Tizen is pitiful at best. so much of Tizen seems like it's still in beta). I've had no luck deploying to the watch so I'm putting my face on the market. I get the certificate needed then it crashes when I click my watch in the drop down. There is probably a way to send the tpk via sdb but I didn't look into it.

I cannot connect my S2
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You're welcome. Seems like Samsung never updates the program since its still version 1.0(their support for Tizen is pitiful at best. so much of Tizen seems like it's still in beta). I've had no luck deploying to the watch so I'm putting my face on the market. I get the certificate needed then it crashes when I click my watch in the drop down. There is probably a way to send the tpk via sdb but I didn't look into it.
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I am unable to connect to my Gear S2 over wifi to PC so I cannot create the distribution certificate. The Gear Watch Desinger also states that there is no connected device.

curt.shan803 said:
Where you able to deploy it to your S2?
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I was able to deploy it. I have both the designer and the sdk installed. I installed it via sdb. Like I said, the software is very buggy, and it took a lot of effort to get it work, but I finally got it on there.
nyknight77 said:
Please share your files. I really like this design. Many thanks!
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I'll put my files on here. I'm not sure the tpk will work for other users or if it is specific to my device, but hopefully the gwd will work in the design software

Thanks stranula!!! Would be great if you can put together a tutorial to get this installed. I downloaded the sdk and the gear watch designer, have the project opened but it says "No connected device Connect device you want to running on."
EDIT: OkI found the tutorial to get it connected in the watch under Gear info, About devices and Open source license. I'm connected and got a developer signature successfully. But when I try to run it on gear, I get error about "SIGNATURE_INVALID_DEVICE_UNIQUE_ID failed"

nyknight77 said:
Thanks stranula!!! Would be great if you can put together a tutorial to get this installed. I downloaded the sdk and the gear watch designer, have the project opened but it says "No connected device Connect device you want to running on."
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In order to get the designer to recognize the device, I
1. Put the computer and the Gear S2 on the same wi-fi network.
2. Run command prompt
3. Change directory to the tizen-sdk/tools (likely C:\tizen-sdk\tools)
4. Run "sdb.exe connect ###.###.###.###" The ###.###.###.### is the ip address of the Gear S2 which can be determined by looking in the settings on the Gear S2 itself.
With any luck, when you do this it will tell you that the device was successfully connected.
Now when in the designer and you select the run on device, it will show up (it may take a minute to show up).
I hope this helps, if not, let me know and I'll try to give some more input. I know the instructions I have here are quite simplified.
Then for installing, it is the same instructions, but you also do
5. "sbd.exe install %APPPath%\app.tpk" where %APPPath%\app.tpk is the location and name of the app. (likely in C;\users\USERNAME\GEARWATCHDESIGNER\workspace\)
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nyknight77 said:
EDIT: OkI found the tutorial to get it connected in the watch under Gear info, About devices and Open source license. I'm connected and got a developer signature successfully. But when I try to run it on gear, I get error about "SIGNATURE_INVALID_DEVICE_UNIQUE_ID failed"
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Great, you got through the hard part.
What I've found is that every time the designer program opens and closes, I had to reregister the "Author Certificate" and "Distributor Certificate" (under the project tab) then buld the app again and making sure to select "moderate" under the security level. Once doing those three things, it would successfully send to the watch

stranula said:
In order to get the designer to recognize the device, I
1. Put the computer and the Gear S2 on the same wi-fi network.
2. Run command prompt
3. Change directory to the tizen-sdk/tools (likely C:\tizen-sdk\tools)
4. Run "sdb.exe connect ###.###.###.###" The ###.###.###.### is the ip address of the Gear S2 which can be determined by looking in the settings on the Gear S2 itself.
With any luck, when you do this it will tell you that the device was successfully connected.
Now when in the designer and you select the run on device, it will show up (it may take a minute to show up).
I hope this helps, if not, let me know and I'll try to give some more input. I know the instructions I have here are quite simplified.
Then for installing, it is the same instructions, but you also do
5. "sbd.exe install %APPPath%\app.tpk" where %APPPath%\app.tpk is the location and name of the app. (likely in C;\users\USERNAME\GEARWATCHDESIGNER\workspace\)
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You're awesome stranula!!
Got it connected, got developer certificate, just needed to rebuid to use Security Level "Moderate" instead of High. it works. I got it loaded! YAY!

nyknight77 said:
You're awesome stranula!!
Got it connected, got developer certificate, just needed to rebuid to use Security Level "Moderate" instead of High. it works. I got it loaded! YAY!
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Awesome! Hopefully this means we will get a handful of people putting together some watch faces to share.

Hmm maybe I got overexcited... I was able to load your watch face but it only sticks for a couple seconds and then reverts back to stock watch face.. any ideas?
EDIT: I restarted and it is working great now!
You just started something huge stranula! I think you should definitely start a new thread with this tutorial so people can make a huge collection of watches!

Looks like it takes a while to get your watch face on the market. I submitted mine about 16 hours ago and it's still in "device testing". Seems a bit excessive for a watch face.

walther1337 said:
Looks like it takes a while to get your watch face on the market. I submitted mine about 16 hours ago and it's still in "device testing". Seems a bit excessive for a watch face.
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Yeah, I submitted mine too, and it is under review. I'm not sure how the submission process will go, but figured it was worth a shot to see.

walther1337 said:
You're welcome. Seems like Samsung never updates the program since its still version 1.0(their support for Tizen is pitiful at best. so much of Tizen seems like it's still in beta). I've had no luck deploying to the watch so I'm putting my face on the market. I get the certificate needed then it crashes when I click my watch in the drop down. There is probably a way to send the tpk via sdb but I didn't look into it.
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I can't even get the watch to show within the program. I disable bluetooth on my watch so I'm connected to my home WiFi network, but I am doing this on my desktop which is ethernet. Do I need to do it from a WiFi device for it to connect to the watch?

Missing features / wishlist

I like my S2 classic much mostly for it`s design and battery life, but there are features that I miss much.
Lets write down wishlist for future updates. Maybe someone makes this come true!
I will update OP periodically
Sleep tracking
Camera remote shutter
Analog tachymeter app
Shazam app to recognize music

It sucks that the S2 lacks quite a few apps I hope in the future it gains more dev support especially with iphone compatibility if Samsung make the S2 work 100% with the iphone's that is. However most of those features you can get on the S2.
For sleep tracking there is GNight costs £1.99 and for the Camera there is Camera controller which is free. This is UK market though so might be different in other countries I don't know.

I would add Samsung Pay for the UK market.

Wishlist
What I need most of all is a modified Nike+ app that shows my heart rate constantly while I'm running in big numerals. It sounds so simple. I love the Nike+ app but it just doesn't have the ability to make this simple adjustment to the settings. Not everybody is interested mainly in how FAR they run/jog.
I am far more interested in what manner I run/jog.

I'd love to see improved GPS performance. Also, would be great if Samsung allowed apps to communicate with phone apps not via Bluetooth, so that the watch can fully work when connected to the phone remotely (kinda takes the point out of the 3g version if most apps only work if the phone is around.
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like to have more kindes of Sports, like gym, Ski for the Trainings app.
regads

mikesaa309 said:
For sleep tracking there is GNight costs £1.99 and for the Camera there is Camera controller which is free. This is UK market though so might be different in other countries I don't know.
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I can buy Gnight for $1.99, but I need sleep tracking app with full Shealth integration.

The only thing I want is android wear with the current ui. Because the UI is literally the only good thing about tizen on a smart watch.

I would love to see Wunderlist (ToDo List App) coming to the S2. It's the only thing that I really miss.
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please?
allow wake up gesture to be set to last viewed instead of always defaulting to the watchface.
PIA when using an app, like music player for example, then after a timeout the wake up gesture will show the watchface instead of the music player.

mr neutron said:
please?
allow wake up gesture to be set to last viewed instead of always defaulting to the watchface.
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I think this is in watch parameter. It is like this in Gear 1, Gear 2 and Gear S

mr neutron said:
please?
allow wake up gesture to be set to last viewed instead of always defaulting to the watchface.
PIA when using an app, like music player for example, then after a timeout the wake up gesture will show the watchface instead of the music player.
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It would be nice to have the option indeed when needed.
Re. your example there are currently three workarounds; music widget next to WF, setting to double click, and dragging down from top of screen then clicking. Granted not as easy as raising your arm but not too bad.
I'd simply like to be able to reorder my WF's. How hard can that be!!?:silly:

dersie said:
I think this is in watch parameter. It is like this in Gear 1, Gear 2 and Gear S
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nope. it was available on Gear2 neo, but then i "upgraded" to Gear S2 and it it definitely missing.
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Cryps said:
It would be nice to have the option indeed when needed.
Re. your example there are currently three workarounds; music widget next to WF, setting to double click, and dragging down from top of screen then clicking. Granted not as easy as raising your arm but not too bad.
I'd simply like to be able to reorder my WF's. How hard can that be!!?:silly:
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i am using these workarounds, but last viewed wake up gesture is preferred.

mr neutron said:
i am using these workarounds, but last viewed wake up gesture is preferred.
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Agreed.
Perhaps the attached is worth looking at (hit the store today). Just a thought.

Schnuddelbuddel44 said:
like to have more kindes of Sports, like gym, Ski for the Trainings app.
regads
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Strength Training app just released in the U.S. Gear store by Samsung India. Also Skimble-linked Workout trainer app, Pear Gear app, and Rossignol's Ski Pursuit are available. I don't know if they're any good, but they do exist.

I would love to have tunein. Power amp extension. hotspot and better always on watch faces

1. Enable mic for calls - I often have the phone in my pocket with headphones on.. would be nice not to have to pull out the phone just to answer a call.
2. Guitar Tuner app - I'm working on writing my own, actually. Seems an ideal use case.
3. Improved SDK and documentation for writing apps - the current SDK is rather easy to "break" and hard to install and get working and although there's some decent documentation online it's fragmented and hard to find exactly what you need.
4. Google Now app or extension.

more blue tooth setting like naming each connection and being able to use mono audio like in android to listen to tunein radio when available if ever

Oobly said:
1. Enable mic for calls - I often have the phone in my pocket with headphones on.. would be nice not to have to pull out the phone just to answer a call.
2. Guitar Tuner app - I'm working on writing my own, actually. Seems an ideal use case.
3. Improved SDK and documentation for writing apps - the current SDK is rather easy to "break" and hard to install and get working and although there's some decent documentation online it's fragmented and hard to find exactly what you need.
4. Google Now app or extension.
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2's more niche, but as a guitar teacher it'd be a godsend.
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Avatiach said:
I'd love to see improved GPS performance. Also, would be great if Samsung allowed apps to communicate with phone apps not via Bluetooth, so that the watch can fully work when connected to the phone remotely (kinda takes the point out of the 3g version if most apps only work if the phone is around.
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I thought the watch does not have gps? it only gets the data it needs to put it in maps app from your phone (connected through bluetooth/wifi)

WANTED: A Gear S3 app to put Samsung S8 in DND mode

I'd have thought this was the No1 Need-to-have app, and i can see a lot of people requesting this in different forums, but no luck yet finding it.
Can someone help me with my eager search to find an app to control the Samsung S8 phone and put it in DND mode just as easy as the watch is able to put itself in DND mode.
Will pay finders fee, or even developers fee to come up with it.
BR, Claus

"Toggle Gear " ?
You can set phone HP to mute or vibe or sound.

Maybe the wrong place - but can I visit or get to the S3 Gear Shop on my computer using a browser. It would be easier to read and certainly easier search for things like the OP requested. On my phone, the text/fonts in the Gear App/shop are thin and wispy and harder to reader.

fred2546 said:
Maybe the wrong place - but can I visit or get to the S3 Gear Shop on my computer using a browser. It would be easier to read and certainly easier search for things like the OP requested. On my phone, the text/fonts in the Gear App/shop are thin and wispy and harder to reader.
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Download Samsung Sidesync to phone and PC. Allows you to display and use the phone on computer monitor. Haven't used it much but seems to work on initial start up

Olie426 said:
Download Samsung Sidesync to phone and PC. Allows you to display and use the phone on computer monitor. Haven't used it much but seems to work on initial start up
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Don't you need a Samsung phone to use Sidesync? I don't have a Samsung phone. I guess I can see if it works.

fred2546 said:
Don't you need a Samsung phone to use Sidesync? I don't have a Samsung phone. I guess I can see if it works.
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It will most likely require a Samsung phone. How are you going to the Galaxy App store?

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It will most likely require a Samsung phone. How are you going to the Galaxy App store?
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I am using my Android Blackberry Priv and the Gear app. S-health works fine on the phone - it is readable and reasonable (although I would not mine a full size desktop access module).
That phone works but the fonts used in displaying Gear Watch apps are thin, light and wispy making it hard to read. Also, when I read reviews or comments on apps in my browser on computer, I would like to be able to quickly look at the info and not have to pull out my phone and struggle to read the poor fonts on the phone.

Control phone from gear s3
Instal Tasker on your phone and tasks2 on your gear. In tasker it is possible to control almost any thing on your phone. I suggest you do a search for correct instructions on setup. It is not difficult as I have done it, if only I could remember exactly how.

Fredwal said:
Instal Tasker on your phone and tasks2 on your gear. In tasker it is possible to control almost any thing on your phone. I suggest you do a search for correct instructions on setup. It is not difficult as I have done it, if only I could remember exactly how.
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This is the best way to do what you want. Tasker has a bit of a learning curve, but it's the best app available for Android.

[App] "Elevation Tracker" in Gear app store

Hi, I wrote new free app and I want to share share it! Please feel free to comment your ideas/proposals/bugs in this topic.
Link to the gear store: http://apps.samsung.com/gear/appDetail.as?appId=NDkpJCxaQ6
************ Gear app store detail *************
By default, Gear S3 is saving pressure data every minute 30 days back. By default, you only got Alti/Baro app capable to show only last 6 hours of this data.
I wrote an app, which can use this resource to:
- Show circle graph of altitude according to selected interval (TAU date/time picker).
- Calculate, what barometric change is due to weather or real altitude change.[*]
- Count you ascended and descended elevation.
- You can read every piece of data (date + altitude[**]) by bezel turning.
My idea of using this app is:
-You are on trail and you can switch Gear S3 to offline mode with display turned off. At evening, in basecamp, you can analyse altitude data. Or event after 30 days!
-During working day, you can easily track when did you used elevator, went the steps etc...
The process of loading a new data (when you select new interval):
1. Graph of barometric pressure[blue] ->
2. Graph of calculated altitude[orange] ->
3. Graph of polished altitude[green], now bezel is enabled.
As this is first release, please let me know here, if I should continue implementing this
If you are interested enough, please donate me (via XDA profile) to support future development :victory:
[*] If altitude changes more than 2 meters in 2 minutes, it is marked as altitude.
[**] Now without any calibration, forced to 1013 hPa. But this app is not altimeter and ASC/DSC meters can be calculated without nearly any difference.

I still don't see why Samsung won't let me view the contents of their store using my computer. It is sometimes more convenient for me to see the info on a larger screen!!! But that is not your issue!
I guess the link is if you are on a Samsung (other??) phone or the Gear watch.
We tackle the app a bit later.

Cool Tool!
Thank you! I really like the app Maybe you could make scrolling adaptive so that the step size increases when you scroll more.

eazor said:
Thank you! I really like the app Maybe you could make scrolling adaptive so that the step size increases when you scroll more.
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Hi, thanks! There is already fast scrooling implemented - if you rotate bezel fast enough (< 0.3 sec between steps), the speed of scrooling is growing. Did you mean this?

konvalink said:
Hi, thanks! There is already fast scrooling implemented - if you rotate bezel fast enough (< 0.3 sec between steps), the speed of scrooling is growing. Did you mean this?
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Oh, cool! I did not notice. However, for me, it is still rather slow. Would it be possible to increase the speed even further, or to even skip to the next elevation jump to see its time?

Magnificent app!!!
Could you make it a widget also?

Im not sure but maybe your app des problem with shealth floors counter. When i open your app, i think it didnt count floors. I must reopen shealth app.

adiyoyo said:
Im not sure but maybe your app des problem with shealth floors counter. When i open your app, i think it didnt count floors. I must reopen shealth app.
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I'm sure my app can't cause this kind of problem. It only reads shared public data. It is like watching televison at home, you can't influence other TV watchers in their houses.

App looks really promising. I notice that some text isn't aligned/positioned correctly

kangi26 said:
App looks really promising. I notice that some text isn't aligned/positioned correctly
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Yeah, I noticed this on new Tizen 3.0, which is rolling now. Many apps in store has now problem, I will update it as soon as possible.

Hi, looks like a great app. Just what I am looking for. It is not available in my country. Can you please post a link to it or suggest how I can load it. Thanks!

Loaded app but don't see any data
I went into it on my gear s3.. It asks me for a E my home Altitude.. I enter it. Hit save and reset..
Everytime I open the app it asks for that same info?

Can't find the app on gear store. Any ideas?

Hi,
Sorry if I am a bit out of subject but up to now her is the better place that seems to match my research...
I have a Gear S3 Frotier paired with a OnePlus 3, and I wondered if it exists an application capable of "mirroring" the sensors data (mainly baro and alti) to the phone, just as if those sensors were present in the phone ?
I guess I'm just dreaming for such a feature, but as I'm not a developper so I just can't figure out what is possible or not with Android / Samsung SDK....
Thanks forward for you kind replies.

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I went into it on my gear s3.. It asks me for a E my home Altitude.. I enter it. Hit save and reset..
Everytime I open the app it asks for that same info?
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Hi, this is happening if you performed update OS 2.3 ->3.0 without reset. Upgrade process destroyed many apps, Samsung doesn't want to help developers and we have no clue how to fix apps for OS 3.0. Sorry, I deleted all my apps because Samsung is unable to publish any material for developers about OS 3.0 upgrade and what is causing problems with sensors. API is the same, but apps won't work.
I gave it chance (here in forum), but no one is able to help. Reset works, but it is a dirty solution.
When Samsung finally answers me, I will update the app to the working version for OS 3.0.

Is there any reason why I can't download the app from the store in France? Is the restriction intended?

App Download
Hey thank you so much for developping this app I was looking for an app like this ever since i bought my S3 Gear. However i'm having problems downloading this app it says not available in your country or not compatible. I have a samsung S9 plus and an S3 frontier Gear. Is there an updated link or a way to install it?
Thank you.

I'm a galaxy Watch owner, why i cannot download this app from the store for localization problem?

I'm not able to locate the app at all, Is it still out there?

Hi, why can't I download it on my gear sport? Samsung says "app isn't available in your country or for your device"