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Smart IR Remote is finally here!

We've been at it for a while now, but it's finally done.
Smart IR Remote was accepted from the first try into Samsung Apps, and no you can download it from here:
http://apps.samsung.com/mars/topApps/topAppsDetail.as?productId=000000880593
It has ALL the remotes included in the phone app, with all the buttons, so you're no longer limited by the WatchON app to control your devices.
When it comes to features, obviously this is a phone so the edit mode will be simply a method to delete useless buttons, and that's why we put the "Lite" stamp on it. We're working on a way to fully edit the app though!
Best of all: this app is free for a limited time, until we make it a "full" app. We might keep it free forever for people who bought the app for their phones though!
Feel free to report any issues, bugs or suggestions!

Very slick.
Works well with my Sky box.
Sadly doesn't support my Sony TV - KDL - 40L4000 so need to find something else fully compatible - which isn't easy.
Definitely appears better than the sammy remote
Don't let that take away from your efforts though. This was 100% needed, works exactly as advertised and even allows you to customise the display.
With a bit of work I'll have this setup even better than my harmony.
Some feedback may be to allow you to add buttons for different devices to the same screen, hich would help us users with AV systems and different bits doing different jobs. Either that or support for activities that support mutliple devices. i.e. Activity - TV: Amp used for volume, Sky box for channels, tv for picture settings etc.

Nice!
been waiting for this since i got my Gear 2!
and this shuld win Samsung Gear App challenge!

Installation failed. Try later.(0) error. It's driving me crazy.
Sent telepathically to my Galaxy S4

dazkeirle said:
Sadly doesn't support my Sony TV - KDL - 40L4000 so need to find something else fully compatible - which isn't easy.
Some feedback may be to allow you to add buttons for different devices to the same screen, hich would help us users with AV systems and different bits doing different jobs. Either that or support for activities that support mutliple devices. i.e. Activity - TV: Amp used for volume, Sky box for channels, tv for picture settings etc.
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Should definitely work with your Sony TV. Please send an email at [email protected] and we'll see what can be done to sort this out.
As for combining remotes .. we're getting there Just you wait and see
@RiverCity.45 I know, a real pain. We're trying to figure out what exactly causes it and to see if there's anything we can do on our end to fix it.

Oh man, I've loved the Smart IR app ever since I discovered it. Can't wait to get this rolling on my Gear 2!
I am running into a weird issue though - for some reason, the app installed fine - I of course don't have a remote set up in the Gear 2 app, so it asks me to choose a remote. Press continue, list of device categories. I choose a category, and it loads forever. No error message or anything. I tried restarting both devices, but no luck. I'm wondering if it might be because of the ROM I'm using (Dynamic Kat 4.1). I do occasionally see "The app can't reach our servers, please try again later", but after a minute or two it just starts loading forever again.
About how long should it take to show a list of devices? Any other ideas of what else to try?

Great work! This was the app I was waiting for, finally I can manage all my sound&tv devices. Thanks a lot.
Combining buttons from multiple devices would be great. Glad you are working on it. And maybe one up swipe for the power toggle of all devices at once?
Is Philips htl4110b missing?
Thx again!
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devdav2167 said:
I am running into a weird issue though - for some reason, the app installed fine - I of course don't have a remote set up in the Gear 2 app, so it asks me to choose a remote. Press continue, list of device categories. I choose a category, and it loads forever. No error message or anything. I tried restarting both devices, but no luck. I'm wondering if it might be because of the ROM I'm using (Dynamic Kat 4.1). I do occasionally see "The app can't reach our servers, please try again later", but after a minute or two it just starts loading forever again.
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Could be the ROM, but it's unlikely, especially since the list of categories actually does show up for you. It shouldn't normally take more than a few seconds to load. Does this happen on all categories? Can you try reinstalling ?
Hielko said:
Is Philips htl4110b missing?
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Can you try any other models in there to see if they are a match for yours ? It's hard to build a full search on this (like we have on the phone app) given the current keyboard state ..

zrgiu said:
Can you try any other models in there to see if they are a match for yours ? It's hard to build a full search on this (like we have on the phone app) given the current keyboard state ..
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I am almost sure it is missing. Maybe you can add the device? I found another that is working for most button actions, but one button doesn't work.
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Awesome app, now if only to have an option to rearrange buttons & figure out how to uninstall stock watchon remote
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Awesome!!! This is my favorite app on my phone! Great job guys!!!

app is nice. However, my first intention was to find and test devices that I copuldn't control with WatchOn.
For example, I have an Arcelik air conditioner , model 15040. On the app, I could find Arcelik 15030. It didn't power on my 15040. Are they really different ?
Can you add it ?
Also, I saw that Philips LivingColors is available in "home equipment " category. AFAIK, LivingColors does not use IR to control. Instead it uses Zigbee (Smartlink) wifreless protocol. And I tried it with my LivingColors and didn't work.
How can we make this work with LivingColors ?
Thanks.

Not showing up for me in the app store. Gear2 Neo/S5 Active

I would like to be able to edit the layout of a control on the phone. It a bit clunky to do this on the watch.

Hey guys! For all remotes/database - related questions please email us at [email protected]. It's hard to keep track of things here
Thanks!
As for the app not showing for some of you, that's something we're trying to find out from Samsung how to fix. Here's the list we support (basically checked ALL when uploaded to Samsung Apps): http://pastebin.com/rcu7WHZg
@mrmrmrmr Living Colors has a few models with an IR receiver

RiverCity.45 said:
Installation failed. Try later.(0) error. It's driving me crazy.
Sent telepathically to my Galaxy S4
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I reverted to a prior custom ROM, and I no longer have any problems installing from Galaxy App store. :good:

zrgiu said:
Could be the ROM, but it's unlikely, especially since the list of categories actually does show up for you. It shouldn't normally take more than a few seconds to load. Does this happen on all categories? Can you try reinstalling ?
That was my impression as well - it's working somewhat, just not letting me see the devices within the categories. So far, I've tried a few categories (TV, Audio Video System, Game/Media Manager) to no avail, but I'll try it again here. I did just try a reinstall, might try to uninstall, restart everything then reinstall again. It's really weird, because after selecting a category, it just sits there on the gear, spinning rather fast. I'll also check with the ROM dev as well just to make sure it isn't something on that front.
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Excellent! Thank you

I have an issue in with support, but just wanted to chime in here. I am also having an issue setting up remotes. I can install the app, pick a category and then a device. I can get so far as doing the first power button test, but when I try to tap "it works" it just shows me the gear animation as if it's doing something but doesn't progress past that. It happens with ANY remote I tried to add.
What I've done to troubleshoot - rebooted both devices, uninstalled, reinstalled, same result. On a rooted Galaxy Note 3 with Hyperdrive ROM build 8 (4.4.2), Gear 2 Neo is stock, unrooted.
Ultimately, what I want out of this is something that can control my receiver power, input switching and volume, as well as my projector on/off on one remote panel - so I'd love a remote that can combine functions from different devices. I'd be fine with paying for an app with that functionality.

Well now I feel dumb...
I wanted to give a status update. So I was still running into one heck of a brick wall getting the app to work properly on my Gear 2. I admit, it was rooted, but I didn't realize the firmware I was on (*NDB) was outdated. I just tried to connect to Kies to see if I could bring it back to stock firmware, and I find out I had an update to a new firmware (*NE5). Performed the update, and boom - app loads like it should, I can select a category, and I now see a list of devices! I figured it would be worth mentioning if any others are seeing this issue. Now that it works properly, I'll test it out on a few devices. If you don't hear from me soon, consider that good news!

Watchland

Does anyone know if Watchland is coming back into the Samsung Store ??? i believe there is a way to side load the app but it doesn't look that easy, with Tizen studio and a few other things. ???
Anyone heard anything ???

dazzler1968 said:
Does anyone know if Watchland is coming back into the Samsung Store ??? i believe there is a way to side load the app but it doesn't look that easy, with Tizen studio and a few other things. ???
Anyone heard anything ???
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piece of piss to sideload it, - there's a step by step thread on how to do it too ??

I somehow had it because it was on my S2 or I downloaded it before it was taken out. I liked Watchland and first because of the variety of faces and they downloaded as GWD files but you can't download anything anymore. It just sits there on preparing and the developer pretty much doesn't update it much. It's a great concept but poorly executed. It's a piece of junk with a lot of potential. I used to swear by it but it's pretty much going downhill for a while. I predict it will be dead soon.

Apparently, the developer moved to China, and has a hard time keeping up with it, but says he's not done with it.
http://watchland.ca/2016/10/29/the-future-of-watchland/
In the meantime, while it is usually slow to load, if you surf around within the app on your phone, eventually, when you go over to "Categories", you can usually get into each brand and download a bunch of cool faces. Then just look in the download folder on your phone, and email yourself to install it via Gear Watch Designer on your PC.
If you do want to try to get the app on the watch, I haven't tried it yet, but here's the thread explaining how to do it...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gear-s3/themes/sideloading-watchland-app-t3517079

Yes but problem is that at first you could download most of the shared faces but now pretty much everything I try to download won't download and is stuck at preparing. I read that same blog post and if you look further on the blog, I think the guy has had server issues in the past.
Like I said, nice idea but poorly executed. I totally understand that the guy went to China but for now and until he gets a team together or comes back, it's a piece of junk until someone takes it out of the junkyard.
I'm not putting the app down and when I first started using it, I must say it was awesome and it's even more awesome that it downloads the gwd files so you can edit them or sideload them with the watch designer program as opposed to Mr Time, and Facer which really limit you as to design options.
For now I just use Mr. Time because I was able to design a simple watch face that I like and it was easier to design than doing it in GWD.

Sweet watch face you made - I like it!
For what it's worth - for me, it seems like none of the "categories" (brands) will even open, UNTIL I go over to the "Newest" or "Most Downloaded" first sections first. Then, when I go back to the categories, for some reason I'm able to get into any brand and download any of the faces. Give that a try (and/or let me know if you want me to download any brands you.)
But you're right, it would be sweet if it worked the way it was intended!

I can only download previously downloaded watches. I cannot download any other watch faces.

It's probably an issue with the servers and the developer is in China, nowhere to be found. Maybe if he were to get a team going or devote his time to it Watchland would be the best. To bad though. Like I said, junk until it starts getting some support. Also, with Mr Time and Faces it may be to late to come back.

Hope this jpeg works?
Something i came across which may be of interest?

Yeah, it's coming back! Here's the story from the developer himself...
http://www.tizenexperts.com/2017/01/watchland-for-your-gear-s-s2-s3-fit2-watchface-download/

Looks promising but looks like it's going to turn in to another facer or Mr. Time website and app. The beauty of the original was the ability to upload face look alikes and yes, I understand the whole copyright thing but honestly that's what it was good for. If it's just going to be another Facer or Mr. Time Maker, I'm not impressed u less it has a better design interface which I doubt. Plus the designer said it himself said he is the sole person on the project which leads me to believe it will be the same business as usual.
I'm optimistic but doubtful. I have the companion app on my S3 and the nice thing g is the ability to load gwd files without the designer. If he can get the companion app back o with that ability then it will be worth it in that sense but even sideload in with companion app does not work 100% with all GWD files.

Watchland new name
Not sure if this thread is dead or not, but i was a few pages deep in a comment section for the very same topic. I found out that the d3veloper had to chqnge the name of the companion app to 'Connected Watch' in the samsung app store. Hope this helps.

WANTED: A Gear S3 app to put Samsung S8 in DND mode

I'd have thought this was the No1 Need-to-have app, and i can see a lot of people requesting this in different forums, but no luck yet finding it.
Can someone help me with my eager search to find an app to control the Samsung S8 phone and put it in DND mode just as easy as the watch is able to put itself in DND mode.
Will pay finders fee, or even developers fee to come up with it.
BR, Claus

"Toggle Gear " ?
You can set phone HP to mute or vibe or sound.

Maybe the wrong place - but can I visit or get to the S3 Gear Shop on my computer using a browser. It would be easier to read and certainly easier search for things like the OP requested. On my phone, the text/fonts in the Gear App/shop are thin and wispy and harder to reader.

fred2546 said:
Maybe the wrong place - but can I visit or get to the S3 Gear Shop on my computer using a browser. It would be easier to read and certainly easier search for things like the OP requested. On my phone, the text/fonts in the Gear App/shop are thin and wispy and harder to reader.
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Download Samsung Sidesync to phone and PC. Allows you to display and use the phone on computer monitor. Haven't used it much but seems to work on initial start up

Olie426 said:
Download Samsung Sidesync to phone and PC. Allows you to display and use the phone on computer monitor. Haven't used it much but seems to work on initial start up
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Don't you need a Samsung phone to use Sidesync? I don't have a Samsung phone. I guess I can see if it works.

fred2546 said:
Don't you need a Samsung phone to use Sidesync? I don't have a Samsung phone. I guess I can see if it works.
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It will most likely require a Samsung phone. How are you going to the Galaxy App store?

Olie426 said:
It will most likely require a Samsung phone. How are you going to the Galaxy App store?
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I am using my Android Blackberry Priv and the Gear app. S-health works fine on the phone - it is readable and reasonable (although I would not mine a full size desktop access module).
That phone works but the fonts used in displaying Gear Watch apps are thin, light and wispy making it hard to read. Also, when I read reviews or comments on apps in my browser on computer, I would like to be able to quickly look at the info and not have to pull out my phone and struggle to read the poor fonts on the phone.

Control phone from gear s3
Instal Tasker on your phone and tasks2 on your gear. In tasker it is possible to control almost any thing on your phone. I suggest you do a search for correct instructions on setup. It is not difficult as I have done it, if only I could remember exactly how.

Fredwal said:
Instal Tasker on your phone and tasks2 on your gear. In tasker it is possible to control almost any thing on your phone. I suggest you do a search for correct instructions on setup. It is not difficult as I have done it, if only I could remember exactly how.
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This is the best way to do what you want. Tasker has a bit of a learning curve, but it's the best app available for Android.

Question Watch Face Studio - can't connect (Galaxy Watch 4 LTE)

Hi there.
Did anyone try the Watch Face Studio already?
I've created my first WatchFace and I'd like to transfer it to my watch. But I just can't get it to connect.
You seem to have to choices:
Using Wifi or Bluetooth.
For Wifi I've enabled ADB over Wifi on the watch. It shows the IP, but I can't connect from within the app. It simply doesn't seem to find it.
Connecting to it through ADB (adb connect IP) does work.
For Bluetooth I've enabled ADB over Bluetooth on the watch. I've connected my phone (Oneplus 9 pro) to my PC with USB Debugging active. According to the instructions I should enable Bluetooth debugging within the app, but I can't find it anywhere
My phone shows up within the Watch Face Studio, but when clicking it, below warning is coming up:
Any idea what I'm doing wrong?
Thanks for your help already!
BR
André

cm2003 said:
Hi there.
Did anyone try the Watch Face Studio already?
I've created my first WatchFace and I'd like to transfer it to my watch. But I just can't get it to connect.
You seem to have to choices:
Using Wifi or Bluetooth.
For Wifi I've enabled ADB over Wifi on the watch. It shows the IP, but I can't connect from within the app. It simply doesn't seem to find it.
Connecting to it through ADB (adb connect IP) does work.
For Bluetooth I've enabled ADB over Bluetooth on the watch. I've connected my phone (Oneplus 9 pro) to my PC with USB Debugging active. According to the instructions I should enable Bluetooth debugging within the app, but I can't find it anywhere
My phone shows up within the Watch Face Studio, but when clicking it, below warning is coming up:
Any idea what I'm doing wrong?
Thanks for your help already!
BR
André
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Isn't it for Tizen only, I was looking the other day and read something about it..

TheIntruder said:
Isn't it for Tizen only, I was looking the other day and read something about it..
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No:
Watch Face Studio is a graphic authoring tool that enables you to create watch faces for the Wear OS smartwatch ecosystem. This includes watches like the Galaxy Watch4, which runs Wear OS Powered by Samsung.
Watch Face Studio | Samsung Developers
The world runs on you.
developer.samsung.com
I've also build the app and created a apks, extracted the apk and installed it to watch (using adb). But that's a lot of steps and work to test a change

So, die nobody try this tool yet?
I just can't get it to connect

Hi everybody !
I had the same problem with the connexion of my Galaxy Watch 4 and I find THE solution.
You can easily resolve this problem with these steps:
- Activate developper mode in your Watch 4 : Settings / About and click 7 times on build number
- Check these following options on the Watch 4 : "ADB debug" and "WiFi debug" (you have to be connected to the same wifi network on your smartwatch AND your computer)
- Install Android Studio here
- Open a new project on the app and go to File / Settings / System settings / Android SDK and check Android 11 for installation
- Then, open the Terminal (Alt + F12 or in the Search bar) and enter these lines :
1/ cd C:\Users\"NameOfYourPC\AppData\Local\Android\Sdk\platform-tools
2/ adb connect 192.168.1.X:5555 (you can verify the IP address of your Watch 4 in General / WiFi)
After all of these steps, and if you are lucky , you should see appear the open dialog on your Watch 4 "Allow debbuging".
If my explanations are not clear, you can watch this video tutorial on Youtube
PS : Sorry for my bad language

cm2003 said:
No:
Watch Face Studio is a graphic authoring tool that enables you to create watch faces for the Wear OS smartwatch ecosystem. This includes watches like the Galaxy Watch4, which runs Wear OS Powered by Samsung.
Watch Face Studio | Samsung Developers
The world runs on you.
developer.samsung.com
I've also build the app and created a apks, extracted the apk and installed it to watch (using adb). But that's a lot of steps and work to test a change
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How did you get it to manually build to the watch?
I cannot get it working via their Run On Device interface either, but when I do a build, I get the aab file, I then ran that through bundletool to get the apks, but inside there I only have base files for each apk and that wont install to the device

The step that seems to be missing is it says on the phone enable "debugging over bluetooth" but that seems to be within the wearos companion app, and the galaxy watch 4 doesn't use the wearos companion app, instead it uses the samsung galaxy wear app which has no such setting.

I wrote a tutorial explaining how i connected Watch Face studio with my Samsung Galaxy Watch 4 here.
Hope it helped.

PotsyKay said:
I wrote a tutorial explaining how i connected Watch Face studio with my Samsung Galaxy Watch 4 here.
Hope it helped.
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thanks for the link
I managed to get it connected in the end, but I cant get many of the features to work, like I want a watch face that shows my heart rate and other things like that but they don't seem to work on the watch face studio
did you have much luck with those features?

theston.e.fox said:
thanks for the link
I managed to get it connected in the end, but I cant get many of the features to work, like I want a watch face that shows my heart rate and other things like that but they don't seem to work on the watch face studio
did you have much luck with those features?
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Yes, same! Many features are missing but heart rate works, as well as step count. Be sure to put the right tag! And once you send your watch face on your watch, there will be a notification like "allow your theme to have access to the sensor data related to vital signs" and you tape yes

You may want to Run as administrator the CMD program. In my case, only with administrator rights I was able to connect to my watch.

PotsyKay said:
Yes, same! Many features are missing but heart rate works, as well as step count. Be sure to put the right tag! And once you send your watch face on your watch, there will be a notification like "allow your theme to have access to the sensor data related to vital signs" and you tape yes
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thanks for the screenshot, super helpful!

PotsyKay said:
Yes, same! Many features are missing but heart rate works, as well as step count. Be sure to put the right tag! And once you send your watch face on your watch, there will be a notification like "allow your theme to have access to the sensor data related to vital signs" and you tape yes
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Oh I just realised that these tags don't read the heart rate continuously, just show the last heartrate reading so you cannot display the continuous heart rate.
Maybe that is just a limitation of Watch Face Studio, the default Galaxy Watch 4 watch faces show the continuous heart rate, but I bet they're not built with watch face studio

theston.e.fox said:
theston.e.fox said:
Oh I just realised that these tags don't read the heart rate continuously, just show the last heartrate reading so you cannot display the continuous heart rate.
Maybe that is just a limitation of Watch Face Studio, the default Galaxy Watch 4 watch faces show the continuous heart rate, but I bet they're not built with watch face studio
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Did you check if the heart rate is enable continuously in health app settings?
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Yes, I use the samsung health app and it monitors continuously
I can see it update continuously on the default watch face, but not when I use the

Hijacking this Thread.
Somebody have time to check if it is possible to use WF to change CSC?
Firmware and Combination Firmware and FOTA Delta and CSC change and...
Looks like it could be harder since Tizen... A Stock Firmware for netOdin/Odin not available yet... B Combination Firmware not available yet C FOTA Delta File for study I have...
forum.xda-developers.com
Code:
com.samsung.android.cidmanager.preconfig.PreconfigActivity
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Thanx in advance.
Best Regards

Is there a way to import watch face into watch face studio from .apk or .zip file?

aygz said:
Is there a way to import watch face into watch face studio from .apk or .zip file?
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Not as far as I know, but you can import .gwd files with limitations on some complications.

aygz said:
Is there a way to import watch face into watch face studio from .apk or .zip file?
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Watch faces are basically specialised apps with their own structure. For fun you can unzip the APK and behold the mishmash of image resources, and then imagine formatting that into a proper WFS project structure...

PotsyKay said:
I wrote a tutorial explaining how i connected Watch Face studio with my Samsung Galaxy Watch 4 here.
Hope it helped.
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adb connect gives "failed to authenticate" information. There was a hint we need to connect a phone to the computer via USB... but it does not have USB ... Finally worked after connecting it is needed to accept all debuging on the watch. Now it works ! thanks

Themes / Apps / Mods OceanWatchII (Decent dual analog/digital) face?

I am coming from the Galaxy Watch S3 Classic to the Watch 4 Classic. I have spent many hours now searching for a decent dual analog/digital face- one with large enough digital to read, classy looking, ambient support, etc. No luck so far.
On my old watch I used a face called "OceanWatchII", although I don't remember where it came from (it was not WatchMaker or Facer, just stand-alone). Got compliments all the time. I even found a screenshot of someone else who uses it (attached). Has anyone seen something similar to this? Thanks

I think i found it for you because i saw this and loved it!
Ocean Watch II - Apps on Google Play
Digital watch Face for Wear OS by AZ Design.
play.google.com
Enjoy

Says not compatible with watch 4.

MKchrias said:
Says not compatible with watch 4.
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For some reason a lot of watch faces say that on your phone - look it up in Google Play on your PC.

MKchrias said:
Says not compatible with watch 4.
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I don't see that on the description. In fact, it does say WearOS 3, and all the photos are of the GW4 classic running it. He must of just posted it since it wasn't there when I was looking for it previously.

PSGM said:
I think i found it for you because i saw this and loved it!
Ocean Watch II - Apps on Google Play
Digital watch Face for Wear OS by AZ Design.
play.google.com
Enjoy
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Thanks, good find. I looks like he posted it about 5 days after I gave up looking for it. Yes, it is a really nice face, simple but functional, stylish and effective. It used to be free. Since then, I was able to come close with a WatchMaker face.

its $1 and it's compatible, just not very customizable apart from changing the colour.

crxssi said:
Thanks, good find. I looks like he posted it about 5 days after I gave up looking for it. Yes, it is a really nice face, simple but functional, stylish and effective. It used to be free. Since then, I was able to come close with a WatchMaker face.
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What's your experience with WatchMaker crxssi? I don't want to touch Facer, as it smacks of being quasi-malware to me (battery and processor hog, ads galore). I have seen some very nice watch faces in WatchMaker premium add-ons, but I don't want any battery-draining or questionable junk on my watch - any concerns?

jtOttawa said:
What's your experience with WatchMaker crxssi? I don't want to touch Facer, as it smacks of being quasi-malware to me (battery and processor hog, ads galore). I have seen some very nice watch faces in WatchMaker premium add-ons, but I don't want any battery-draining or questionable junk on my watch - any concerns?
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WatchMaker is both fantastic and yet frustrating. I bought Premium a long time ago, back when I was using the Moto 360's, so I am "set". Few people want to make watch faces from scratch (me included), but want to find something nice to use or at least start with. That is where it gets a bit difficult. There are lots of WatchMaker faces, but it is hard to search to find what you want based on certain criteria and also that are not extra cost. Takes some practice and patience.
I found a free face called "Pulsar Neo" which does most everything I want (will attach screenshot). Then I edited it and added application launching on several touch areas (clicking on temp brings up weather, clicking on time brings up stopwatch, clicking on date brings up calendar), changed the time to be 12 hour (not 24 hour), removed some elements I didn't want, changed the second hand to be red, changed ticking from continuous sweep to stepping, etc. It is an extremely powerful program. If you like to tinker, it is da bomb.
Despite the tons of functionality, if you are careful with what options are enabled, I do not find it to be any more battery-draining than "native" faces are. Certainly no malware. Unlike "native" faces, WatchMaker gives you COMPLETE control over what the face does, how it acts, what features are available, etc. And you can do all that from your phone, complete with a fully-functioning, enlarged-version of the watchface, then send it to the watch.

crxssi said:
WatchMaker is both fantastic and yet frustrating. I bought Premium a long time ago, back when I was using the Moto 360's, so I am "set". Few people want to make watch faces from scratch (me included), but want to find something nice to use or at least start with. That is where it gets a bit difficult. There are lots of WatchMaker faces, but it is hard to search to find what you want based on certain criteria and also that are not extra cost. Takes some practice and patience.
I found a free face called "Pulsar Neo" which does most everything I want (will attach screenshot). Then I edited it and added application launching on several touch areas (clicking on temp brings up weather, clicking on time brings up stopwatch, clicking on date brings up calendar), changed the time to be 12 hour (not 24 hour), removed some elements I didn't want, changed the second hand to be red, changed ticking from continuous sweep to stepping, etc. It is an extremely powerful program. If you like to tinker, it is da bomb.
Despite the tons of functionality, if you are careful with what options are enabled, I do not find it to be any more battery-draining than "native" faces are. Certainly no malware. Unlike "native" faces, WatchMaker gives you COMPLETE control over what the face does, how it acts, what features are available, etc. And you can do all that from your phone, complete with a fully-functioning, enlarged-version of the watchface, then send it to the watch.
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Awesome, thanks for that!

crxssi said:
WatchMaker is both fantastic and yet frustrating. I bought Premium a long time ago, back when I was using the Moto 360's, so I am "set". Few people want to make watch faces from scratch (me included), but want to find something nice to use or at least start with. That is where it gets a bit difficult. There are lots of WatchMaker faces, but it is hard to search to find what you want based on certain criteria and also that are not extra cost. Takes some practice and patience.
I found a free face called "Pulsar Neo" which does most everything I want (will attach screenshot). Then I edited it and added application launching on several touch areas (clicking on temp brings up weather, clicking on time brings up stopwatch, clicking on date brings up calendar), changed the time to be 12 hour (not 24 hour), removed some elements I didn't want, changed the second hand to be red, changed ticking from continuous sweep to stepping, etc. It is an extremely powerful program. If you like to tinker, it is da bomb.
Despite the tons of functionality, if you are careful with what options are enabled, I do not find it to be any more battery-draining than "native" faces are. Certainly no malware. Unlike "native" faces, WatchMaker gives you COMPLETE control over what the face does, how it acts, what features are available, etc. And you can do all that from your phone, complete with a fully-functioning, enlarged-version of the watchface, then send it to the watch.
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I agree. WM is far and away the most powerful watch design software. It definitely drained more battery on the Tizen watches, but on GW4, the stock faces seem to drain just as much.

ALooneyGuy said:
I agree. WM is far and away the most powerful watch design software. It definitely drained more battery on the Tizen watches, but on GW4, the stock faces seem to drain just as much.
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I never used WM on my Tizen S3 watch, I only used it on WearOS watches before it. I don't think it was available for Tizen at the time, and/or wasn't stable... in any case, I was happy with the native face I found.
So when I jumped onto the GW4, which is WearOS again, and couldn't find any native watch face I wanted, I remembered WatchMaker again (oh yeah, I already paid for that and "own" it, perhaps I can just find something there that I like and if I can get close, I can just edit it to suit).
So I can't comment about battery life of WatchMaker faces on Tizen vs WearOS. But I can comment that it seems no different under WearOS3 vs. the native faces I tried for the GW4.

crxssi said:
I found a free face called "Pulsar Neo" which does most everything I want (will attach screenshot). Then I edited it and added application launching on several touch areas (clicking on temp brings up weather, clicking on time brings up stopwatch, clicking on date brings up calendar), changed the time to be 12 hour (not 24 hour), removed some elements I didn't want, changed the second hand to be red, changed ticking from continuous sweep to stepping, etc. It is an extremely powerful program. If you like to tinker, it is da bomb.
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Ug. I haven't gone into the WatchMaker app on my phone in quite a while. For some reason, when I go into it now, all the faces I downloaded and modified, including the "Pulsar Neo" are GONE! The watch faces are still on the watch, but I can't see or edit them in the phone app.
Typically, I am careful about having backups and such. And I do have a backup of a few that I no longer use. But in this case, I am stuck. I searched my computer and the phone and can find no trace of the file(s) I need. Even worse, I have no idea where I found the original (un-modified) Pulsar Neo watch file, and searching the web only finds a non ".watch" version. I don't have any notes or anything.
Is there some easy way I can suck the faces back off the watch and into WatchMaker on the phone so I can see/edit them again? Thanks for any ideas.

crxssi said:
Typically, I am careful about having backups and such. And I do have a backup of a few that I no longer use. But in this case, I am stuck. I searched my computer and the phone and can find no trace of the file(s) I need. Even worse, I have no idea where I found the original (un-modified) Pulsar Neo watch file, and searching the web only finds a non ".watch" version. I don't have any notes or anything.
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Update: Still no way to find my modified version, but I finally found the original. It is called "Pulsar Neon" in WatchAware and when loaded in WatchMaker it is called "Pulsar Neo". I thought I would post it here, in case someone else wants it (or I lose it yet again). I don't know the original filename, since "sharing" it requires entry of a new name. I called it pulsar_neo.watch but had to zip it or this site wouldn't allow attachment.
I am still hoping I can find a way to suck the edited version back off the watch, since I spent several hours tweaking their version to make it perfect for my needs...

You can download the apk files for the watch faces. You can use ADB AppControl and link your watch via WiFi. It gives you the ability to see all the loaded apk files and select and download the ones you want. It does a lot more, but this may help you out.