Erroneous overheating - Google Pixel Questions & Answers

Hi All, I have an unusual problem, my Pixel reports >65 degrees temperature while not actually being overheated. This leads to it refusing to charge.
I am only able to charge it on a block of ice, that helps to reduce reported T to around 25, never lower.
I believe this to be a hardware problem. I have wiped, formatted and reinstalled ROM's (currently RROS 8.6.3).
My question is - is it possible to disable overheat protection?
Thanks!

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What are your CPU and batt temperatures?

Just wanna ask around to check if I'm the only one who feels my phone is a tad bit too hot?
Usually when not charging , the batt temps are around 34-38°C, with the CPU in the range of 38-45°C
When charging the batt goes up to 38°C - 44.7°C or even overheating in the 45-50°C range( ok this would be my fault in using heavier apps)
And the CPU would stay in the range of 40°C - 55°C even without use sometimes
Those temperatures aren't out of the ordinary for this device, that's pretty normal actually. I've had my battery temperature go between 50-55°C fairly regularly, and even as high as 66°C without the phone shutting down (I did cool it down very quickly upon seeing how hot it was though).
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timmaaa said:
Those temperatures aren't out of the ordinary for this device, that's pretty normal actually. I've had my battery temperature go between 50-55°C fairly regularly, and even as high as 66°C without the phone shutting down (I did cool it down very quickly upon seeing how hot it was though).
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Thanks timmaaa, for a moment I thought I was the only one.
I use Battery Mix to record my temperature vs. Battery % over time (use the JB feature to disable its persistent notification): https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.smapho.battery_mix&hl=en
One thing I've noticed is that when it hits 40C+, the space below the camera becomes extraordinarily hot! This happens at least once during a work day, especially happens when I don't touch the device.
When this happens, the drain rate just plummets (when I refer to the battery level slope vs. the phone temperature). However, a reboot fixes the heat (and as a result, the drain rate) over a lengthy amount of time.
I've heard of this, but haven't gotten around to trying it successfully:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/ht...g-red-while-charging-rapid-battery-drain.html
That shouldn't happen while you're not using the phone. Have you used an app like BetterBatteryStats to identify what's draining your battery?
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well this was previously answered by timmaa i had a similar concern cause none of my earlier phone actually felt that warm...
but when i got a green signal that these are normal temperatures, i tried gaming for almost an hour turns out the phone was hot indeed the battery was around 50+ but still the phone dint shut down itself or showed any inconsistency in its functions!
moral of the story.. it happens with everyone.. my friend has a endeavor it also suffers from heating... its so normal that if u search it in google that "why does ht one x get..... "it automatically completes it in with " get hot"(also for the new One).
if you want to cool it down get SET CPU and create a profile in which select battery temperature/cpu temperature at a certain temperature you don't want your phone to exceed and then set the cpu to a lower speed typically till 1026 or 1134...
but again if u feel its necessary cause doing so will obliviously slow down the device.:angel:
Sonone said:
moral of the story.. it happens with everyone.. my friend has a endeavor it also suffers from heating... its so normal
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Of course its normal. All computers generate heat as power is discharged. Manufacturers are also packing more and more computing power into these small devices, and in general that means more heat (although there are other variables). And every smartphone is designed to deal with the heat differently, so those might be some reasons why your previous phones did not feel as warm.
redpoint73 said:
Of course its normal. All computers generate heat as power is discharged. Manufacturers are also packing more and more computing power into these small devices, and in general that means more heat (although there are other variables). And every smartphone is designed to deal with the heat differently, so those might be some reasons why your previous phones did not feel as warm.
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true that!!
even i was actually worried before hearing about it being normal from u and timma as well!
its probably htc one x is build that way.
BTW sorry a little off topic since this issue has already been resolved has anyone heard a little rattling sound near the camera region only when the phone is sharked up and down (from screen to back)
this also is a build issue!
Sonone said:
BTW sorry a little off topic since this issue has already been resolved has anyone heard a little rattling sound near the camera region only when the phone is sharked up and down (from screen to back)
this also is a build issue!
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Totally normal. Just a moving part in the camera module. Likely related to autofocus as you can sometimes hear a sound when focusing the image.
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[Q] thercharger overheating issue and the phone heating issue

why isnt the company doing something about the overheating issue? is there any solution for this? Just bought my one plus one and this overheating issue is such a let down.
From what I can see the reason the charger "overheats" is because of the speed in which it charges the phone. A way to fix this is to root the phone and install an app that can slow down the amount of power the phone takes in during charging. Ofcourse this means longer charging times but it will help with the heat issue.
With regards to the phone, unlock the developer options and underclock the phone. Obvious advantage of longer battery life and less heat but with the trade off of performance. I would reccomend only underclocking it a little but as you will get lag because of the restricting of power to the CPU. Changing the cpu governer etc. to save battery will help with heat as they just slow down the ram and CPU.
My appologies if you have done all of these and are still experiencing these issue, i do know where you are coming from but they are trivial issues and depend on how you as the user do use the phone. Have a browse around forums etc. to find tips on slowing things down a little and things will cool down for your phone.
I hope i have helped even a little bit
How do you define overheating on the phone? What temperature?
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No overheating here. What do you mean? The phone gets hot and turns off?
overheating
baratv said:
why isnt the company doing something about the overheating issue? is there any solution for this? Just bought my one plus one and this overheating issue is such a let down.
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This phone is not known for overheating any more than any other phone that will heat up when driven to its max for example in heavy 3D gaming. There is a difference between heating up and overheating
First, run stock without any extra installed apps, and NO running apps or network connections or anything and see if it's overheating.
Do not use an aftermarket charger--they could be rated for different amps and overheat or damage themselves or the battery.
Phone brand new?--simple--ask OnePlus to replace it.
Phone used?--probably been abused--get your money back and get another one.
pbergonzi said:
There is a difference between heating up and overheating
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This. Far too many people mistake a device heating up for a device overheating. All phones heat up, they have no active cooling. If the phone was actually overheating the thermal cutoff would kick in and the phone would shut down.
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No overheating issue here, you may want to try different - weaker charger like stock Samsung or Sony one with output current ~700mA-1A and see how it performs.
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Nexus 5 CPU is extremely hot

Hey all,
As of about a month ago, my beloved Nexus 5 has been getting extremely hot to the touch. As a result of that, the device is uncomfortable to handle and is dying quite quickly. As this was a factory refurbished I got from eBay, I had no warranty on it. I read a thread on here awhile ago that Thermal Paste could help with heat on the CPU, so I decided to try that as I didn't have a warranty to void. That did help with the temperature on the CPU, but because Thermal Paste is a conductor, all the heat dissipated into the screen, essentially making the screen a mini stove. I then heard that Thermal Pads might work better, so I ordered some off of Amazon and applied them to my CPU. This helped with idle temperatures, but as soon as I touched the screen they raised back up again. I've tried everything, CyanogenMod 12.1, CyanogenMod 13, CAF ROMs, and I even flashed it back to stock. Nothing works.
Now for the odd thing: Idle Temperatures are normal, at around 38°C. Load Temperatures are fine, it reaches around 65°C under AnTuTu's Stress Test. However, under normal use such as browsing Chrome or watching YouTube, the Temperature IMMEDIATELY goes from Idle up to about 58 °C, and stays there. The phone loses battery rapidly, and it burns my hand using it. I've checked for CPU hogging apps, there were none. I made sure I was on the correct CPU Governor, and I was. Even on the Conservative Governor the Temperature was still going up to 58° C.
I have no idea what is going on. I might have an idea, but I don't know if it's even how the phone would work. My battery has been acting up lately, even before the phone started heating up. Some of the times when I've taken the phone apart, I noticed that the Battery's Ribbon Cable sparked a bit. With this and the fact the the battery has been acting up, it leads me to believe the the battery might be unstable. Could the battery be delivering too much power/voltage to the CPU, causing it to heat up? Just a wild guess
Help would be extremely appreciated
its battery issue. try changing it

Phone heating on all ROMs

OK, I ran into this issue about 5 days ago. No matter what ROM I install, my phone constantly heats up within 15-20 mins of casual usage. I don't even play games on my phone. I tried N ROMs and MM ROMs too, no matter what ROM I install, phone just heats up. I'm attaching a screenshot from CPU-Z app (which I used to monitor the temperature). Are those readings OK, or is there something wrong with my phone?
My phone's temperatures are usually similar to yours and I thought this was normal. In case it's not I'd like to see a solution to this as well.
Btw, do you have any custom kernels? Agni made my phone way too hot..
mike.... said:
My phone's temperatures are usually similar to yours and I thought this was normal. In case it's not I'd like to see a solution to this as well.
Btw, do you have any custom kernels? Agni made my phone way too hot..
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I don't really go for custom kernels unless I'm testing one. I stick to the kernel that comes with the ROM.
Check kernel adiutor if your frequenties are peaking constantly
HelpMeruth said:
Check kernel adiutor if your frequenties are peaking constantly
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I have checked. They are mostly around 800 MHz mark. And 45% of the time in deep sleep or 400 MHz.
Also I want to whether surrounding temperature can affect the values? Right now the temperature at my home city is averaging around 34-35°C. Would that be the cause?
HelpMeruth said:
Check kernel adiutor if your frequenties are peaking constantly
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Not to hijack the thread but I have experienced all the cores being on max. frequency. I noticed this when my phone started warming up even being idle.
I saw this behavior for a few times in RR with both Optimus and Firekernel (Optimus had optimus set as its governor and Firekernel had darkness), however never encountered it in Ultradevs (with both chill and darkness).
This was a couple of months ago, and it hasn't happened again yet. However I am not sure if this was related to kernel because sometimes force stopping random applications such as greenify or nova launcher made the frequency scale down back to 400 (efficiency profile). Unfortunately I didn't get a hold on what was causing this, but I suspect some background user application was the culprit.
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Gravemind2015 said:
Not to hijack the thread but I have experienced all the cores being on max. frequency. I noticed this when my phone started warming up even being idle.
I saw this behavior for a few times in RR with both Optimus and Firekernel (Optimus had optimus set as its governor and Firekernel had darkness), however never encountered it in Ultradevs (with both chill and darkness).
This was a couple of months ago, and it hasn't happened again yet. However I am not sure if this was related to kernel because sometimes force stopping random applications such as greenify or nova launcher made the frequency scale down back to 400 (efficiency profile). Unfortunately I didn't get a hold on what was causing this, but I suspect some background user application was the culprit.
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I also faced this issue first time when I flashed RR 5.8.2, no custom kernel used. And now its following on every ROM I install. I even tried custom kernels, different gapps packages but none seem to work. The phone heats up while charging and while doing simple things like using WhatsApp, sending emails, browsing through XDA. Also kernel adiutor is showing that GPU temperature is always above 43°C.
adityak1303 said:
I also faced this issue first time when I flashed RR 5.8.2, no custom kernel used. And now its following on every ROM I install. I even tried custom kernels, different gapps packages but none seem to work. The phone heats up while charging and while doing simple things like using WhatsApp, sending emails, browsing through XDA. Also kernel adiutor is showing that GPU temperature is always above 43°C.
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Did you restore apps through some backup program such as Titanium backup? In my case, I used to use it and it might be the reason the problem was popping up everywhere.
If not, and if the phone still heats up even in clean state (after a fresh custom/stock rom install), then maybe some hardware issue could be the reason.
My Cpu-z reports battery being at 37° discharging and the sensor0 to sensor5 show 45-51°c although the phone feels way cooler than that.
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Gravemind2015 said:
Did you restore apps through some backup program such as Titanium backup? In my case, I used to use it and it might be the reason the problem was popping up everywhere.
If not, and if the phone still heats up even in clean state (after a fresh custom/stock rom install), then maybe some hardware issue could be the reason.
My Cpu-z reports battery being at 37° discharging and the sensor0 to sensor5 show 45-51°c although the phone feels way cooler than that.
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I clean installed all the ROMs. Still the issue persists. I haven't tried stock ROM yet. I'll try that and report back.
adityak1303 said:
I clean installed all the ROMs. Still the issue persists. I haven't tried stock ROM yet. I'll try that and report back.
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yeah, thinking you may have to flash stock, not restore it via twrp. I know it's a pain but it would give you a good reference point.
Well I can't flash stock ROM for the next 2 days. So let me ask this : Is a temperature of 37-42°C for battery and CPU harmful for the phone? Or I shouldn't worry about it?
107F? I shouldn't think so...
"Right now the temperature at my home city is averaging around 34-35°C. Would that be the cause? " It wouldn't help...
I am 26 ambient and my phone temps run 36-36 or so.
Ambient temp does play a factor. If the phone is Almost as hot as the ambient it's hard to transfer the phone heat to the ambient surrounding.
My freqs and temps in attachment. I use aosp-caf with prepackaged kernel(ud i think) with some custom settings.
Ambient temp is around 20 C inside and 10 C outside
HelpMeruth said:
Ambient temp does play a factor. If the phone is Almost as hot as the ambient it's hard to transfer the phone heat to the ambient surrounding.
My freqs and temps in attachment. I use aosp-caf with prepackaged kernel(ud i think) with some custom settings.
Ambient temp is around 20 C inside and 10 C outside
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Thanks a lot. Even when my phone was not heating up, the CPU and battery never got cooler 31°C. And GPU was around 38°C. And even after intensive use, CPU never got hotter than 37°C.
Now my phone's CPU and battery are around 35°C mark and GPU around 43°C. And during use CPU reaches 43°C mark and GPU about 52°C. Can these temperatures cause any harm to the device?
adityak1303 said:
Thanks a lot. Even when my phone was not heating up, the CPU and battery never got cooler 31°C. And GPU was around 38°C. And even after intensive use, CPU never got hotter than 37°C.
Now my phone's CPU and battery are around 35°C mark and GPU around 43°C. And during use CPU reaches 43°C mark and GPU about 52°C. Can these temperatures cause any harm to the device?
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Don't quote me but I think it's okay. Motorola should have tested it on much higher temps. So just go with it if it dies you maybe have warranty.
adityak1303 said:
I clean installed all the ROMs. Still the issue persists. I haven't tried stock ROM yet. I'll try that and report back.
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I had the same issue . with few ROMS . My device temperature went around 70C on oen ROM. I am usimng Osprey 1GB RAM
I have not faced any issues since I am using Nano Gapps. Previousely I used Mini gapps and that was causing the issue . Depend whar Mobile you use 1GB RAM or 2GB RAM. Also it is better to clear cache after every install
Also I use following settings to make suer it doe snot get hot.
-Ambient Display Off
-Adaptive Display Off
-Try not to block any apps from sending notoification as I had issues where battery draining and mobiel heating up by doing so
-Keep brightness to minimum
and since I am using this I had not any issues with heating
chungomungo1 said:
I had the same issue . with few ROMS . My device temperature went around 70C on oen ROM. I am usimng Osprey 1GB RAM
I have not faced any issues since I am using Nano Gapps. Previousely I used Mini gapps and that was causing the issue . Depend whar Mobile you use 1GB RAM or 2GB RAM. Also it is better to clear cache after every install
Also I use following settings to make suer it doe snot get hot.
-Ambient Display Off
-Adaptive Display Off
-Try not to block any apps from sending notoification as I had issues where battery draining and mobiel heating up by doing so
-Keep brightness to minimum
and since I am using this I had not any issues with heating
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Thanks for replying but its not the issue of any ROM. I flashed stock and the issue still persisted. So I literally contacted everyone I know of who owns an unrooted osprey in my city and asked them about this.
Turns out everyone's phone is getting hotter a lot faster than before. Even went into a Moto Service Centre, they said its fine for the phone to heat up in such temperatures.
The issue is ambient heat. As you might have seen in my previous post, I mentioned that the temperature in my city is averaging around 35-36°C (Today it reached 40°C), the phone just doesn't cool down enough after using it. So when I started to use it again, it heated up.
Thanks everyone for replying.
adityak1303 said:
Thanks for replying but its not the issue of any ROM. I flashed stock and the issue still persisted. So I literally contacted everyone I know of who owns an unrooted osprey in my city and asked them about this.
Turns out everyone's phone is getting hotter a lot faster than before. Even went into a Moto Service Centre, they said its fine for the phone to heat up in such temperatures.
The issue is ambient heat. As you might have seen in my previous post, I mentioned that the temperature in my city is averaging around 35-36°C (Today it reached 40°C), the phone just doesn't cool down enough after using it. So when I started to use it again, it heated up.
Thanks everyone for replying.
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It might be issue with India summers :laugh: mine is also getting hot from past few days.
libert19 said:
It might be issue with India summers :laugh: mine is also getting hot from past few days.
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That's what I figured. Thanks.

General Performance degradation over time?

Is it only me? I bought the phone a few months ago received on May I been playing a lot of Apex Mobile which is totally not optimized but for iphone 13 pro max but that's not the point
On June I decided to run some benchmarks
On 3D Mark I got on WIld Life Maxed Out it doesn't even say the score now I get 6680
On Wildlife Extreme I got 2481 and now 1816 that's 35%+ slower than before what's the reason for this if anyone experiencing the same?
Geekbench same history I got Single Core 1241 and multicore 3546 late benchmark I did It got 1195 single core and 2885 Multicore
Was the ambient room temperature the same for all the tests? Did you add case for the later ones?
Once the phone gets too hot it likely will throttle back before it reaches shutdown temperature.
blackhawk said:
Was the ambient room temperature the same for all the tests? Did you add case for the later ones?
Once the phone gets too hot it likely will throttle back before it reaches shutdown temperature.
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Same Room in my house same ambient temperature I ran the test in the same conditions when Idle and cold
Background apps running?
blackhawk said:
Background apps running?
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Like I said test were done in the same way all apps closed and while phone was idle cold Weird isn't it?
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Like I said test were done in the same way all apps closed and while phone was idle cold Weird isn't it?
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Maybe Google backup Transport, etc running?
It shouldn't slow that much.
The load on this stock N10+ is over 2 yo and still snappy fast.
Any updates?
Try clearing the system cache and do a memory cleaning with Device Care.
Hit it with SD Maid if you got it.
Tested at room temperature 23 Celsius. Basically the same score as when new 3 months ago.
Interestingly the score improved by 31 points after installing the July update.
Also taken at 23 Celsius.
The app galaxy app booster helps to regain that factory reset feel for me. Used it twice thus far.
blackhawk said:
Maybe Google backup Transport, etc running?
It shouldn't slow that much.
The load on this stock N10+ is over 2 yo and still snappy fast.
Any updates?
Try clearing the system cache and do a memory cleaning with Device Care.
Hit it with SD Maid if you got it.
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Definitely on the sd maid. I run it twice a week with a subsequent shutdown then boot (I let it fully rest instead of just a reboot). After any updates go into recovery and clear cache and repair apps. Also, go to battery, background usage limits, and put all apps that you don't need immediate notifications in sleep, and games and such in deep sleep. Honestly, running sd maid and the shutdown/boot really help.
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Definitely on the sd maid. I run it twice a week with a subsequent shutdown then boot (I let it fully rest instead of just a reboot). After any updates go into recovery and clear cache and repair apps. Also, go to battery, background usage limits, and put all apps that you don't need immediate notifications in sleep, and games and such in deep sleep. Honestly, running sd maid and the shutdown/boot really help.
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Using global power management will cause erratic behavior ie the battery management junk.
Enable fast charging only from that group.
In individual app settings disabling background battery and data use if needed is ok, that's not global power management.
Developer options>standby apps, if all buckets show as active, power management is disabled.
Its pretty normal electronics like capacitors and resistors decrease thier value over time the reason is thermodynamics
Cevisi said:
Its pretty normal electronics like capacitors and resistors decrease thier value over time the reason is thermodynamics
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Not really. No electrolytic caps. Good for many hundreds of thousands of cycles. Components will fail outright rather than drift so far out of spec that you notice a change.
The battery (easy to replace), C port, AMOLED display, switches and flash/ram memories are at highest risk in that approximate order. Aside from the battery in a well designed/manufactured device the lifespan of a heavily used, well cared for device is at least 5 years.
A good case is mandatory to limit G loading to survivable levels in drops, to prevent direct impact damage and excessive frame, display and mobo flexing.
Firmware upgrades/updates are a major risk, avoid if not needed.
Care to avoid water exposure and to keep battery heat levels below 103F when using or charging.
Avoid using in direct sunlight, protect from sunlight. Keep display brightness on manual and below 50%.

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