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Hello, I've recently purchased an International G7 Power (XT1955-2) and I absolutely love it. For me it is the perfect phone, BUT:
I live in the USA, and the international model does NOT support a lot of the LTE bands found here. It works fine for me with an AT&T MVNO with proper APN settings manually entered, but not having common bands (12 and 17 specifically) is a little worrying should I ever travel out of my area. Being downgraded to 3G really isnt a dealbreaker for me, the biggest problem I forsee is that the International version also does NOT support 5Ghz Wifi. What? Again, not really a huge deal, and the other positives i find with the phone outweigh those two gripes.
Why not just get a US version you ask? Well, unfortunately the US version (XT1955-5 as far as i can tell) only has 3GB of RAM and 32GB of storage. (vs 4/64 for the international) and does not have NFC. The storage *is* expandable via SD card of course, but I feel like I would really miss that extra gig of ram. So heres what I was thinking:
Would it be possible to extract the radio firmware from a US model and flash it on the international model? I would be willing to purchase a US model specifically to grab the firmware (and then promptly return it, thanks Amazon!) Can anyone give me some insight on if this would be possible? They both run the same SoC, so shouldnt the radios also be identical, just software limited? If no one can give a solid answer, I might just take the plunge and learn how to do it and try it, and I'll most definitely post the results (or the file and process for others) here. Because as far as I'm concerned, the G7 Power is the perfect budget phone, its just such a shame that Motorola decided to cripple every single version of it with a different nonsensical limitation.
Thanks!
Update: I managed to track down a few different stock firmware images for the US model (even here there are variants, depending on which carrier they were sold through). First I flashed the modem firmware, confirmed that that had been applied successfully, and it booted ok, and LTE/Wifi worked normally, but I still didnt get the LTE bands or 5ghz wifi I was looking for. Next I just went whole hog and flashed the entire -5 US firmware and can confirm, the XT1955-5 firmware WILL fully flash onto the XT1955-2 without any problem, and will NOT nerf your RAM/Storage down to US model levels. LTE/Wifi work just as they did with stock -2 firmware, unfortunately this didnt help the lack of US LTE bands or 5GHz wifi... so
Looking at the "Baseband" in fastboot and within Android, the modem firmware had indeed successfully changed to the version that is in the US firmware, yet following the correct US version numbers it still had the "LATAM....." (meaning Latin America I'm guessing, this model was meant for Mexico), so theres still something else that needs to be changed, I'm gonna do some research on other phones that may have had the same problems and software locks to get an idea on how this might be changed. As always, any insight is welcome.
If anyone wants/needs the US variant firmwares to play with, let me know and I'll get them to you, since they were nearly impossible to find. For now I've flashed back to the stock -2 firmware (I have that too if you need, although this was really easy to find online).
I'm in the same situation as you, except i'm in Canada. According to this website below, there are 2 models of the xt1955-2. One being the 32 gig version for Latin America/Argentina and the other being the 64 gig model for Mexico. I don't know if the information is accurate but the 64 gig model of the xt1955-2 has LTE band 12 and 17. Lots of conflicting information. I don't what the correct specs are for this international version of the g7 power.
I can provide a link but being this is my first post, it won't allow me.
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I'm in the same situation as you, except i'm in Canada. According to this website below, there are 2 models of the xt1955-2. One being the 32 gig version for Latin America/Argentina and the other being the 64 gig model for Mexico. I don't know if the information is accurate but the 64 gig model of the xt1955-2 has LTE band 12 and 17. Lots of conflicting information. I don't what the correct specs are for this international version of the g7 power.
I can provide a link but being this is my first post, it won't allow me
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Got it in the PM, thanks. According to that article, my Mexican -2 should also not have dual SIM slots which it certainly does. I wish there was a way to tell on the device itself which bands it can pick up since there's, as you said, so much conflicting information regarding this phone. I can tell you with absolute certainty that it doesn't support 5ghz wifi though, also it took a call to my carrier to get them to enable the wifi hotspot (other phones I've tested got this provisioned automatically) and wifi calling doesn't even appear as an option either.
mtlvince said:
I'm in the same situation as you, except i'm in Canada. According to this website below, there are 2 models of the xt1955-2. One being the 32 gig version for Latin America/Argentina and the other being the 64 gig model for Mexico. I don't know if the information is accurate but the 64 gig model of the xt1955-2 has LTE band 12 and 17. Lots of conflicting information. I don't what the correct specs are for this international version of the g7 power.
I can provide a link but being this is my first post, it won't allow me.
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I'll be following this thread. Keep us posted with what you come up with. Would love a dual sim with the band coverage of the US model. I have a 1955-2, works fine on Att with LTE. Tried a Verizon Sim, had LTE data but no calling.
You mentioned the firmware was hard to get. Are they different from the ones posted here?
https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/ocean/official/
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You mentioned the firmware was hard to get. Are they different from the ones posted here?
https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/ocean/official/
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Dammit, yes those are what I was after, and all the searching in the world didn't give me that site. Well, that makes it easier, Thanks!
Update: I may have gotten all LTE bands working on the XT1955-2. Guide here to try it for yourself:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g7-power/how-to/guide-moto-g7-power-supra-enable-lte-t3925246
Another update: running "./fastboot oem hw" gives us these values. We see that RAM and storage capacity are based on "hwprobe", meaning (im guessing) that it will actually look at what's physically installed in order to determine what it should use for a value, whereas radio and NFC are based on hwid, meaning (again, im guessing) that it compares the actual hardware ID to a list (somewhere) to determine what vaules it should use for radio and NFC, suggesting that the actual hardware we're after may be present, but just software disabled due to the hwid.
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And of course, attempting to change that doesn't work since that option is locked/protected and unprotecting it is "not allowed command"
At this stage, I'm assuming we'll need to wait for a custom kernel? I've tried unpacking boot.img, but theres nothing in ramdisk\oem or ramdisk\vendor to try and play around with.
Is it possible to flash metro software to the Amazon veriant
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Is it possible to flash metro software to the Amazon veriant
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Should be able to. I have flashed the US retail firmware to the international version. I did have an issue with the US firmware on the international phone using the international modem. Worked fine except for people not hearing me on calls. So there could be an issue with mixing modems and firmwares. I flashed the US modem and it was fixed.
I also flashed the US Retail firmware onto a Metro phone in an attempt to unlock it, didn't unlockit. Phone worked fine though.
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If you have the Amazon version that is subsidized by Amazon with ads, then no. Moto will not give you the bootloader unlock code for that because that would mean Amazon couldn't show you a bunch of annoying advertisements.
I have already unlocked bootloader and flashed metro firmware
Guys, this may be worth checking out. This is a confirmed method that was used to enable LTE Band 12 on the Moto E LTE xt1527 (Surnia), by using Qualcomm's QPST/QXDM radio diag utilities after booting the device into "BP Tools" mode from the AP Fastboot menu. The method delves off into some data entry using binary code. Theoretically, this method should work on any Motorola device with a Qualcomm Snapdragon SoC. The OP notes that having stock firmware installed does seem to be a requirement for tweaking LTE band enablement, but that once the desired bands are enabled, a custom ROM can ibe installed and the bands will remain intact & supported.
So anyway, here is a link to the tutorial thread, which contains links for the DIAG port drivers you will need, as well as links for the QPST & QXDM utilities. https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-e-2015/general/guide-enable-lte-bands-surnia-t3351673
In the case of the International variant of the Moto G7 Power (xt1955-2), it is feasible that any lack of LTE band support has littler to do with the baseband radio firmware itself than it does omissions/restrictions implemented by the OEM. This has been the status quo for Motrola on LTE band support for many years.
Motorola's official specs list the xt1755-2 as having LTE Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 19, 20, 28, 38, 40 & 41. On the other hand, the US variants are docemented to have these LTE bands: LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 12(700), 13(700), 14(700), 17(700), 20(800), 25(1900), 26(850), 29(700), 30(2300), 38(2600), 39(1900), 40(2300), 41(2500), 41(2500), 66(1700/2100), 71(600). Considering that both the International & US Moto G7 Power variants are powered by the same SoC platform (albeit some marked performance differences), it is more likely than not that certain LTE Bands on the International variants were simply disabled via factory protocol.
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When u flashed metro rom did metro boot logo and software appear? Since Verizon doesn’t lock their Lte devices I wonder if flashing full firmware might achieve unlock? I know same concept as us retail but let’s not give up hope! Any new developments on how to proceed with unlock or cheap resources?
Has anyone gotten band 12 and 71 working on the XT1955-2?
C0l0njay said:
When u flashed metro rom did metro boot logo and software appear? Since Verizon doesn’t lock their Lte devices I wonder if flashing full firmware might achieve unlock? I know same concept as us retail but let’s not give up hope! Any new developments on how to proceed with unlock or cheap resources?
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Unlock can't be achieved by simply a firmware flash ,is not that simple. If it were that simple don't you think everyone will have an unlocked device by now and unlocking issue won't even exist. ?
i am having a hard time finding the 1955-2 latest firmware for may-june 2019 . Can you give me a link to that if possible can you give me the easiest steps on how you flashed the 1955-5 firmware on the 1955-2.the bootloader isunlocked on my moto g7 power 1955-2 model. .
Anyone try mixing US radios around to see if they get better service? I've already enabled all the bands in the above thread but where I live there are service dropouts depending where you are in town. I've rooted and unlocked my bootloader already. I have metro and wondering if I could get ahold of a T-Mobile radio if it would work better.
krayzieiyian23 said:
Anyone try mixing US radios around to see if they get better service? I've already enabled all the bands in the above thread but where I live there are service dropouts depending where you are in town. I've rooted and unlocked my bootloader already. I have metro and wondering if I could get ahold of a T-Mobile radio if it would work better.
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krayzueuyian23, I wanted to confirm.... you have successfully changed your 1955-2 international phone to permit bands 12 and 17? If so, which posts/steps did you follow? Are you using the phone in the US?
I have the international 1955-2 and want to activate 12 and 17 so that I can use the phone with AT&T / Cricket wireless.
Thank you!
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krayzueuyian23, I wanted to confirm.... you have successfully changed your 1955-2 international phone to permit bands 12 and 17? If so, which posts/steps did you follow? Are you using the phone in the US?
I have the international 1955-2 and want to activate 12 and 17 so that I can use the phone with AT&T / Cricket wireless.
Thank you!
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I have the 1955-5. If you go to the forum main menu you will see a sticky post about enabling all bands possibly. I followed that threads instructions to do it. One hiccup though is that the qpst link doesn't work and you need to find a suitable version near that to download. I completed all bands on my phone, even though it doesn't help my signal. I am wondering if any of the different radios would help me.
I am sure we may need to wait for Friday or what not, but does anyone know if T-Mobile will be selling a custom OP7Pro with a custom modem so you cannot grab updates directly from OP as they did with the OP6T? Just trying to figure out if I can get from T-Mobile and be good or have to go direct with OP.
Thanks in advance.
Ps. I did see the other thread on the modem channels, but didn't know if that was related to my question. As I just want to ensure the phone I get can be fully supported by OP and not just my carrier for future software updates.
OnePlus told me there is only one variant of the OP7Pro globally. via chat and email
Like previous OnePlus devices that have been on T-Mobile. The firmware is the only difference outside of the second SIM holding being filled. Cutting it out or using a tray with dual-SIM's and the non-T-Mobile firmware will enable dual-SIM. The modem only differs by firmware. Band 71 is available to devices with the T-Mobile modem firmware installed. This firmware can be installed on the Global version as well. Once the devices fully launch, expect ROM's to start popping up with enabled dual-SIM for the T-Mobile version and Global versions with the T-Mobile modem firmware.
Okay thank you both for your comments. Glad they are not doing the hardware differences this time around. I just know from forums that the T-Mobile variant of the OP6T is slow to get updates when compared with the international version due to the custom modem. I am not too worried about the second sim, don't travel much. But unlocking the additional modem channel would be nice on the international version of OP7Pro. I think I have the details I need for my decision. I will do the international version from OnePlus direct to limit the delays on software updates. Then just watch for mods to upgrade the modem firmware to work better with T-Mobile.
jcsww said:
Like previous OnePlus devices that have been on T-Mobile. The firmware is the only difference outside of the second SIM holding being filled. Cutting it out or using a tray with dual-SIM's and the non-T-Mobile firmware will enable dual-SIM. The modem only differs by firmware. Band 71 is available to devices with the T-Mobile modem firmware installed. This firmware can be installed on the Global version as well. Once the devices fully launch, expect ROM's to start popping up with enabled dual-SIM for the T-Mobile version and Global versions with the T-Mobile modem firmware.
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Will we even need the T-mobile firmware for band 71? The review that GSMArena put out said that they were able to use band 71 fine with their review device. I would think that the devices that Oneplus sends out to journalists would be the unlocked version.
kurbstar said:
Will we even need the T-mobile firmware for band 71? The review that GSMArena put out said that they were able to use band 71 fine with their review device. I would think that the devices that Oneplus sends out to journalists would be the unlocked version.
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More than likely, no. Swapping out the modem firmware for the slightly tuned version though, is something some on T-Mobile will want to do. Most journalists received the 12GB/256GB unlocked global version. T-Mobile likes to tune their radio firmware for devices sold by them. If you look at the Galaxy or Note lines from Samsung. The S9's and Note 9 support band 71 on the U1 non-carrier specific firmware, but also do on the TMB U T-Mobile specific firmware. The difference is, carrier aggregation in the modem firmware. Ultimately, it isn't a big difference, as a former S9 Plus and Note 9 owner that has tried multiple firmware on each.
We tried swapping modem.imgs it doesn't work. Causes mismatch and won't boot. And once u convert a tmo OnePlus u get ota's. No one will want the tmo software cuz it usually is missing every cool extra.. and they push it with an Android 6 about phone menu..blah.
Hello,
I bought a V50 LMV500EM the days. Now I have looked at all the root instructions, but nowhere is this version mentioned.
Can I now assume that for the V500EM no root and TWRP is available or is there still something coming ?
If I have overlooked the corresponding thread, please link times.
And another question. The phone should be able to 5G, n78 band, my sim card can 5G, but have not yet 5G on the display, and in the mobile settings is also only GSM/UMTS and LTE to choose from. No 5G
Or does that come only with the update to Android10 ? I have not yet made any updates and therefore still installed Android9.
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And another question. The phone should be able to 5G, n78 band, my sim card can 5G, but have not yet 5G on the display, and in the mobile settings is also only GSM/UMTS and LTE to choose from. No 5G
Or does that come only with the update to Android10 ? I have not yet made any updates and therefore still installed Android9.
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As far as i know,in order to be able to connect with 5g,your device must be certified from your gsm carrier,even if it is capable.
Better come in contact with your carrier and they will give you directions on how to do it.
For example in my country,even if you get a 5g capable device,you have to send a message to the carrier from your 5g device,and they send you back some kind of carrier settings in order to be able to connect to 5g.
Just give it a try.
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Hello,
I bought a V50 LMV500EM the days. Now I have looked at all the root instructions, but nowhere is this version mentioned.
Can I now assume that for the V500EM no root and TWRP is available or is there still something coming ?
If I have overlooked the corresponding thread, please link times.
And another question. The phone should be able to 5G, n78 band, my sim card can 5G, but have not yet 5G on the display, and in the mobile settings is also only GSM/UMTS and LTE to choose from. No 5G
Or does that come only with the update to Android10 ? I have not yet made any updates and therefore still installed Android9.
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Hello,
I don't know if you found your answers : regarding the 5G connection, it's a kind of joke in V50, there's only one band so if isn't the one supported by your carrier don't wait too long for 5G. concerning the root and trwp, I assume that you didn't go deeper on the various threads because you maybe saw this one talking about rooting and bootloader unlocking. As you have the V500EM you don't need the parts of the thread explaining how to unlock the bootloader, just go through the official way with the LG code. And at last, regarding the updates you can install updates by yourself using kdz files and lg up software, currently we are at android 11, to find kdz files and how to use lg up go through this site or this one and look for your model.
Hope these little tips will help you.
@Int976
Hi,
thanks for your support, but I returned the smartphone and am now waiting for the Xperia 5 iii.
The 5G on the V50 was really a joke and have tested it with 2 different providers, so in 2 different networks. But neither in the one nor in the other network 5G had although n78 is supported. However, the battery life did not convince me either. It may be that the battery was no longer the freshest due to storage.
I knew that the V500EM can be officially unlocked by LG, but that's no use if the TWRP is not adapted for the 500EM. Because the threads I had all through. But in the TWRP threads was only the Korean model the speech.
Well now it's too late. But thanks anyway that you wanted to help me.
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Both the motorola g100 and Motorola edge s, have the same model number. (XT2125-4) both phones use the same exact bands. Biggest difference is price.
In the U.S the moto g100 is $500. You can get a Motorola edge s shipped for around $285. Big difference.
My question is, since they have the same model number (xt2125-4). Will the Motorola edge s work on at&t? I know at&t has white listed the g100 xt2124-4. But no mention of the Chinese version.
ObeyMyEgo said:
Both the motorola g100 and Motorola edge s, have the same model number. (XT2125-4) both phones use the same exact bands. Biggest difference is price.
In the U.S the moto g100 is $500. You can get a Motorola edge s shipped for around $285. Big difference.
My question is, since they have the same model number (xt2125-4). Will the Motorola edge s work on at&t? I know at&t has white listed the g100 xt2124-4. But no mention of the Chinese version.
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Is there a website where you can enter your imei or something and see if its supported?
If so, send me the link and i will try, i have an edge s
Beetle84 said:
Is there a website where you can enter your imei or something and see if its supported?
If so, send me the link and i will try, i have an edge s
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Thanks! Sending message now.
ObeyMyEgo said:
Both the motorola g100 and Motorola edge s, have the same model number. (XT2125-4) both phones use the same exact bands. Biggest difference is price.
In the U.S the moto g100 is $500. You can get a Motorola edge s shipped for around $285. Big difference.
My question is, since they have the same model number (xt2125-4). Will the Motorola edge s work on at&t? I know at&t has white listed the g100 xt2124-4. But no mention of the Chinese version.
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I'm the best one to help you so I'm from the United States there are a lot of differences I have the Motorola g100 xt2125-4 my firmware version is called North American retail 8 gigs of RAM 128 gigs of memory the only phone carrier that it works correctly on is T-Mobile. And there's only one way to get this phone that's the purchase it through Motorola USA. It will kind of work on AT&t but 5G won't work. Other differences are. Mine has NFC. A dedicated Google Assistant button and the fingerprint scanner is on the side. The model I have is specifically made to work in the United States. Because we use different cell phone signals different NFC signals. Different calling protocols
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I'm the best one to help you so I'm from the United States there are a lot of differences I have the Motorola g100 xt2125-4 my firmware version is called North American retail 8 gigs of RAM 128 gigs of memory the only phone carrier that it works correctly on is T-Mobile. And there's only one way to get this phone that's the purchase it through Motorola USA. It will kind of work on AT&t but 5G won't work. Other differences are. Mine has NFC. A dedicated Google Assistant button and the fingerprint scanner is on the side. The model I have is specifically made to work in the United States. Because we use different cell phone signals different NFC signals. Different calling protocols
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I imported my G100. It has NFC, Google Assistant button and the fingerprint scanner is in the power button.
The model I imported works in the United States.
My Reteu (Retail, Europe.) G100 even supports Voice over Wifi on T-Mobile in the US.
I'd expect it to as it's the exact same hardware with a different build of Android, mostly localization support.
No, we don't use different cell phone signals or nfc signals. They're called standards for a reason. NFC works worldwide if the phone has NFC support. Doesn't matter where it comes from.
Band support is all that is needed. That's why you can import phones sold for retail in China, Europe, Brazil, etc... and have them work in the US as long as the supported bands are there. I imported my Nubia Red Magic Mars from China, flashed the Europe firmware onto the device and used in the United States. No issues.
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I imported my G100. It has NFC, Google Assistant button and the fingerprint scanner is in the power button.
The model I imported works in the United States.
My Reteu (Retail, Europe.) G100 even supports Voice over Wifi on T-Mobile in the US.
I'd expect it to as it's the exact same hardware with a different build of Android, mostly localization support.
No, we don't use different cell phone signals or nfc signals. They're called standards for a reason. NFC works worldwide if the phone has NFC support. Doesn't matter where it comes from.
Band support is all that is needed. That's why you can import phones sold for retail in China, Europe, Brazil, etc... and have them work in the US as long as the supported bands are there. I imported my Nubia Red Magic Mars from China, flashed the Europe firmware onto the device and used in the United States. No issues.
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Not true. Your should try to go buy something or even better try Google pay
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Not true. Your should try to go buy something or even better try Google pay
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Google Pay support on an imported device isn't because, as you said, "Because we use different cell phone signals different NFC signals. Different calling protocols." Google Pay and whether or not it works with your device is dependent on other factors, security checks. Not because an imported device uses "different NFC signals."
Case in point: I was able to use my YubiKey to 2FA login on my G100 when I signed into my Google Account. Using NFC.
If it was "different NFC signals," my YubiKey shouldn't work with the imported G100.
I use NFC stickers to activate Tasker profiles. Same stickers I used with my US Based Edge '21 and my South American based Z Play. Didn't have to change a thing.
"NFC" itself is a standard. If a device didn't follow the NFC standard, it couldn't advertise itself as having NFC features.
The last time we had "different calling protocols" causing incompatibility within a region was when it was GSM and CDMA/EVDO in the US. CDMA is no longer supported and EVDO will be fully shut down in the US at the end of this year. GSM, like '4G/LTE' or '5G' is a set of standards in which all countries follow for their phone networks. That's how we have interoperability, not just at the device level, but at the tower and literally calling someone around the world level.
The main difference between one 4G phone in one region versus another 4G phone in another region, if the phone is unable to work outside of its host region is not "different calling protocols", but lack of band support. Having an issue with device with bands that AT&T and Verizon use isn't due to "different calling protocols", but due to anticompetitive tactics on both carriers. They want people to buy devices from the carrier (read: sim and bootloader locked). I was able to upgrade my Mother's phone by buying an unlocked Pixel and sim-swapping. Everything worked fine.
Reteu imported G100 being used in the US. NFC? Works. VoWifi on T-Mobile? Works. 5G on T-Mobile? Works. Google Assistant button? Works. Fingerprint scanner in the power button? Works.
TLDR: You are talking out of your ass.
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Google Pay support on an imported device isn't because, as you said, "Because we use different cell phone signals different NFC signals. Different calling protocols." Google Pay and whether or not it works with your device is dependent on other factors, security checks. Not because an imported device uses "different NFC signals."
Case in point: I was able to use my YubiKey to 2FA login on my G100 when I signed into my Google Account. Using NFC.
If it was "different NFC signals," my YubiKey shouldn't work with the imported G100.
I use NFC stickers to activate Tasker profiles. Same stickers I used with my US Based Edge '21 and my South American based Z Play. Didn't have to change a thing.
"NFC" itself is a standard. If a device didn't follow the NFC standard, it couldn't advertise itself as having NFC features.
The last time we had "different calling protocols" causing incompatibility within a region was when it was GSM and CDMA/EVDO in the US. CDMA is no longer supported and EVDO will be fully shut down in the US at the end of this year. GSM, like '4G/LTE' or '5G' is a set of standards in which all countries follow for their phone networks. That's how we have interoperability, not just at the device level, but at the tower and literally calling someone around the world level.
The main difference between one 4G phone in one region versus another 4G phone in another region, if the phone is unable to work outside of its host region is not "different calling protocols", but lack of band support. Having an issue with device with bands that AT&T and Verizon use isn't due to "different calling protocols", but due to anticompetitive tactics on both carriers. They want people to buy devices from the carrier (read: sim and bootloader locked). I was able to upgrade my Mother's phone by buying an unlocked Pixel and sim-swapping. Everything worked fine.
Reteu imported G100 being used in the US. NFC? Works. VoWifi on T-Mobile? Works. 5G on T-Mobile? Works. Google Assistant button? Works. Fingerprint scanner in the power button? Works.
TLDR: You are talking out of your ass.
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Exactly and as soon as you unlock the bootloader on a Motorola if you go into the Google Play store it'll tell you that your device is now not certified
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Exactly and as soon as you unlock the bootloader on a Motorola if you go into the Google Play store it'll tell you that your device is now not certified
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WHICH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR CLAIM OF "DIFFERENT NFC SIGNALS".
Don't "Exactly" me when I spent six+ paragraphs correcting you.
Verizon will sell you a somewhat stripped down version of this phone, the One 5g UW Ace, with 64GB ram and 4GB rom, vs. 128/6 on the retail variant.
I'd like to get the retail unlocked version for slightly better specs and to avoid having all the Verizon crapware that becomes permanently embedded on the phone.
Does anyone have any real life experience using the retail version on Verizon? I am especially concerned with Wifi calling, as parts of my home absolutely require this feature.
Thanks for any input!
I am using the retail version on AT&T. The wifi calling works great.
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Verizon will sell you a somewhat stripped down version of this phone, the One 5g UW Ace, with 64GB ram and 4GB rom, vs. 128/6 on the retail variant.
I'd like to get the retail unlocked version for slightly better specs and to avoid having all the Verizon crapware that becomes permanently embedded on the phone.
Does anyone have any real life experience using the retail version on Verizon? I am especially concerned with Wifi calling, as parts of my home absolutely require this feature.
Thanks for any input!
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I've had the retail phone for over 6 months and it is solid in call quality / WiFi calling (I'm on T-Mo) but if pictures are important to youm it will disappoint" the camera quality is similar to a 2014 Moto G's camera.
FoneWatcher said:
I've had the retail phone for over 6 months and it is solid in call quality / WiFi calling (I'm on T-Mo) but if pictures are important to youm it will disappoint" the camera quality is similar to a 2014 Moto G's camera.
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My interest is to have a decent phone that works with Verizon and that isn't stuffed with carrier crapware. Photos are secondary...
My Metro variant 5G Ace is currently on US Mobile's Verizon network. What I did was:
1. Input another IMEI to port my phone number because the 5G Ace isn't on Verizon's "compatible" phones list (I used an unlocked iPhone in my case)
2. Put the SIM card into the iPhone to activate the card. (My 5g Ace didn't have service right after porting, YMMV)
3. Put the SIM card into the 5g Ace
Also, I'm not able to change the preferred network type and the signal bars in the status bar change to a different design for some reason.
WiFi calling works as well.
FoneWatcher said:
I've had the retail phone for over 6 months and it is solid in call quality / WiFi calling (I'm on T-Mo) but if pictures are important to youm it will disappoint" the camera quality is similar to a 2014 Moto G's camera.
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Hi Fonewatcher, I am glad to find this thread as I just bought a plan through T-Mobile yesterday, and chose another Moto (the Moto One 5G Ace). Am not sure I have wifi calling, but I would like to know a lot more about this phone. I found an excellent tutorial to follow here, but I also like to find others that use the phone & service just for occasional tips if I get stuck.
For the thread topic I wanted to check and see how to get rid of as much bloatware, T-Mobile apps, ads. I don't believe I can actually make the phone "retail" because I know some apps I can't uninstall, like my last Moto G6 from Verizon. When I closed my Verizon Acct. I still was unable to uninstall the apps Verizon put on there. I found one video this a.m. here and I think it was pretty good on clearing off but if there is more I can do I would like to learn.
G0ldengirl68 said:
Hi Fonewatcher, I am glad to find this thread as I just bought a plan through T-Mobile yesterday, and chose another Moto (the Moto One 5G Ace). Am not sure I have wifi calling, but I would like to know a lot more about this phone. I found an excellent tutorial to follow here, but I also like to find others that use the phone & service just for occasional tips if I get stuck.
For the thread topic I wanted to check and see how to get rid of as much bloatware, T-Mobile apps, ads. I don't believe I can actually make the phone "retail" because I know some apps I can't uninstall, like my last Moto G6 from Verizon. When I closed my Verizon Acct. I still was unable to uninstall the apps Verizon put on there. I found one video this a.m. here and I think it was pretty good on clearing off but if there is more I can do I would like to learn.
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Look in the guide section here. Getting rid of TMO stuff seems to be a big part of the motivation for the writers of the guides.
jwhistler said:
Verizon will sell you a somewhat stripped down version of this phone, the One 5g UW Ace, with 64GB ram and 4GB rom, vs. 128/6 on the retail variant.
I'd like to get the retail unlocked version for slightly better specs and to avoid having all the Verizon crapware that becomes permanently embedded on the phone.
Does anyone have any real life experience using the retail version on Verizon? I am especially concerned with Wifi calling, as parts of my home absolutely require this feature.
Thanks for any input!
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I have this phone and I use Total Wireless (Verizon). Wifi calling does not work on this phone.
jwhistler said:
Verizon will sell you a somewhat stripped down version of this phone, the One 5g UW Ace, with 64GB ram and 4GB rom, vs. 128/6 on the retail variant.
I'd like to get the retail unlocked version for slightly better specs and to avoid having all the Verizon crapware that becomes permanently embedded on the phone.
Does anyone have any real life experience using the retail version on Verizon? I am especially concerned with Wifi calling, as parts of my home absolutely require this feature.
Thanks for any input!
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