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Hi, Recently I've downloaded video 1080p from youtube but when playing it, the video laggy but the audio just playing properly fine...
I thought it because the decoder set to H/W, but when switched to S/W both video & audio become laggy, then try switched to H/W+ it become worse (doesn't support this kind video it says...).
When I see media info of video, it use VP9 format video.
Here is the video: www[dot]youtube[dot]com/watch?v=aE2GCa-_nyU
I've tried on 3 devices; Asus Zenfone 6, Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1, and LG G2, all of it have the same issues...
And tried on PC to check if the video has errors or something, but the video is playing perfectly fine.
Is it something like bugs so the video didn't play properly? Or android can't play video with format VP9 properly?
Because I've tried other video 1080p, it can be played properly.
Oh FYI, I've tried using few other video player, and none of its can play the video as good as MX Player. That's why I've been using MX Player as default video player.
Hope there will be improvement on the next update so the video VP9 1080p can be played properly
MX Player is the best
All 1080p videos are not same.
It may lag at various parameters like higher frame rate, bitrate, color depth,....etc.
For example if you consider a video 1080p @ 30fps inorder to display 1 sec of videos it needs to decode 30 frames. Where as in 1080p @ 60 fps it requires 60 frames to be decoded. So, It will require the double power. Like wise various encoding parameters matters in video playback.
Second, H/W uses your hardware's native decoder . If the codec is natively supported by your device, H/W decoder will be the best option.
In case of S/W decoder, it supports more video formats since it depends on the ffmpeg. But, decoding will be completely done one CPU. So, it needs very high cpu power. That's why it's more laggy.
Night.Lurker said:
Hi, Recently I've downloaded video 1080p from youtube but when playing it, the video laggy but the audio just playing properly fine...
I thought it because the decoder set to H/W, but when switched to S/W both video & audio become laggy, then try switched to H/W+ it become worse (doesn't support this kind video it says...).
When I see media info of video, it use VP9 format video.
Here is the video: www[dot]youtube[dot]com/watch?v=aE2GCa-_nyU
I've tried on 3 devices; Asus Zenfone 6, Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1, and LG G2, all of it have the same issues...
And tried on PC to check if the video has errors or something, but the video is playing perfectly fine.
Is it something like bugs so the video didn't play properly? Or android can't play video with format VP9 properly?
Because I've tried other video 1080p, it can be played properly.
Oh FYI, I've tried using few other video player, and none of its can play the video as good as MX Player. That's why I've been using MX Player as default video player.
Hope there will be improvement on the next update so the video VP9 1080p can be played properly
MX Player is the best
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VP9 isn't a widely supported format. That's likely why HW and HW+ don't work well with it; most devices don't have VP9 hardware acceleration.
SW rendering of a 1080p video is very demanding. Even on the most powerful devices, since there's no hardware acceleration, expect performance to be sub-par. Currently, devices on the market can only SW render 720p smoothly.
This being said, for SW mode, try Settings > Decoder > use speedup tricks. See if that helps a little bit on SW.
Ultimately, the best option is to reencode the video to something like H264/AVC mp4.
VP9 on KitKat+
I've tried on 3 devices; Asus Zenfone 6, Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1, and LG G2, all of it have the same issues...
And tried on PC to check if the video has errors or something, but the video is playing perfectly fine.
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Can you explain more where you're trying to playback the video? VP9 support is built in to Android from KitKat+ and should not have an issue playing back. Additionally, can you try playing back the video on Chrome on Android and see if there are still decode issues?
Thanks.
ktsamy said:
All 1080p videos are not same.
It may lag at various parameters like higher frame rate, bitrate, color depth,....etc.
For example if you consider a video 1080p @ 30fps inorder to display 1 sec of videos it needs to decode 30 frames. Where as in 1080p @ 60 fps it requires 60 frames to be decoded. So, It will require the double power. Like wise various encoding parameters matters in video playback.
Second, H/W uses your hardware's native decoder . If the codec is natively supported by your device, H/W decoder will be the best option.
In case of S/W decoder, it supports more video formats since it depends on the ffmpeg. But, decoding will be completely done one CPU. So, it needs very high cpu power. That's why it's more laggy.
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CDB-Man said:
VP9 isn't a widely supported format. That's likely why HW and HW+ don't work well with it; most devices don't have VP9 hardware acceleration.
SW rendering of a 1080p video is very demanding. Even on the most powerful devices, since there's no hardware acceleration, expect performance to be sub-par. Currently, devices on the market can only SW render 720p smoothly.
This being said, for SW mode, try Settings > Decoder > use speedup tricks. See if that helps a little bit on SW.
Ultimately, the best option is to reencode the video to something like H264/AVC mp4.
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I see... So the point is the problem because most devices don't have VP9 hardware accelaration yet, especially for 1080p VP9...
Well... I've tried using SW speed up trick, it didn't much help...
Yeah...maybe the best option is to reencode the video to H264...or download 720p version..., cause the 720p VP9 can be played perfectly fine.
Still... I hope the MX Player developer team has plan to improve playback for 1080p VP9 video
Btw thanks for your answer bro
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Can you explain more where you're trying to playback the video? VP9 support is built in to Android from KitKat+ and should not have an issue playing back. Additionally, can you try playing back the video on Chrome on Android and see if there are still decode issues?
Thanks.
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As I said before, I'm trying to play 1080p VP9 video (that I've downloaded from youtube using IDM on computer) on my Asus Zenfone 6, Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1, & LG G2 using MX Player.
But when I playing it, the video is laggy on all devices...
Surely you can streaming it using youtube app & chrome android and it plays well till the end cause the available quality option in those apps is up to 720p (the 1080p quality option is hidden on those apps so I can't select it to test if it plays well or not).
Night.Lurker said:
Still... I hope the MX Player developer team has plan to improve playback for 1080p VP9 video
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That would be something you would have to ask the ffmpeg team to do, since MX uses their codecs. Unless the MX dev has a magic trick up his sleeve, I don't think there's much else MX can do to further improve SW playback performance for a video that exceeds the CPU's capabilities...
Likewise, on a hardware acceleration, it's limited by the hardwaree put in place by the manufacturer... so this aspect would need a new device.
Hi, i bumping this thread because i encountered the issue on some youtube vids too, but it's mostly playing fine, i think that with a few updates it will be good my phone is getting hot fast though.. (oneplus one)
VP9 1440p https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNNfZuIA1GQ : fine
VP9 1080p with a lot of "motion" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGyZY4HNumw a bit laggy
I think I have already answered.
Read the second post. Video encoding parameters matters.
If you can't play in H/W or H/W+ decoder, Don't expect the smooth playback on S/W. It fully depends on CPU. If is laggy then your processor is not powerful enough. Sometime enabling the speed up tricks may reduce the lagging.
One more thing, using CPU will drain your battery faster than H/W. When CPU runs it's maximum speed for long time it will emit more heat which may lead to issues.
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I think I have already answered.
Read the second post. Video encoding parameters matters.
If you can't play in H/W or H/W+ decoder, Don't expect the smooth playback on S/W. It fully depends on CPU. If is laggy then your processor is not powerful enough. Sometime enabling the speed up tricks may reduce the lagging.
One more thing, using CPU will drain your battery faster than H/W. When CPU runs it's maximum speed for long time it will emit more heat which may lead to issues.
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Okay thank you. Then i hope new processors will have vp9 decoding h/w
coc014 said:
Okay thank you. Then i hope new processors will have vp9 decoding h/w
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The chance of that happening, I can't see to be high. The MPEG consortium probably pays a lot to lobby chipset makers to only support MPEG formats, such as H.264 and H.265.
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The MPEG consortium probably pays a lot to lobby chipset makers to only support MPEG formats, such as H.264 and H.265.
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Lolno, it's just that industry is not interested in VP9. Even if they don't have to pay royalties they still have to develop asics (and h/w engineers are saying that it's not h/w friendly) and include them into the chip. It still costs a lot.
And what is the point of supporting vp9? It's an ugly google toy that they're ready to abandon (say hello to vp10 in 2015).
Ah yes, ASICs. I don't think manufacturers would be very happy at making more dies for new ICs. They already aren't happy with being forced to support Hi10p in H.265.
Forced? I would be happy if they were forced, but, at least Qualcomm, have no plans whatsoever
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Forced? I would be happy if they were forced, but, at least Qualcomm, have no plans whatsoever
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Well, this sucks. Looks like we'll be waiting another generation... Where did you find that support chart?
Edit: We should move this discussion to the 10-bit thread. I'm going to quote you over there. http://forum.xda-developers.com/app...layer-10-bit-video-discussion-t2725241/page12
abput supporting vp9 1080p and undeleting files in mx player p higher andrpid version
first of all:
"Most probably you’re on Android marshmallow 6.0 API. If you’re trying to delete a video that is located on the external storage then its not possible due to some bug in the file system and mx player.
If you’re on the internal storage then MX player has only read only rights on the directory on which you’re currently on."
or just delete on your internal system file manager application.
Second answer about playng videos vp9
becayse you can't play vp9 if you download youtube videos with IDM (internet download manager)
because it is bull**** and its newer versions used idmmkvlib.01 codec.so when downloadimg it not only download andit convert into ist bull**** special format.so won't play withx pr others.try another downloader or manual download yt videos i recomend.
Hi,
As I've seen on gsmarena's review, this phone ONLY records 4k with h.265 codec.
Right now, this is a problem because many phones can't play h.265, google chrome (desktop and android) can't play it, and youtube, google drive and google photos can't process it. (I've tested it)
Do you know if there is a way of recording 4k with h.264?
I didn't find any problem playing my UHD 4K recordings. I transported a recording to my LG G4 as well and I could play it with all players.
Just my Samsung TV reported wrong codec.
Full HD recordings didn't have problems at all.
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deaad said:
I didn't find any problem playing my UHD 4K recordings. I transported a recording to my LG G4 as well and I could play it with all players.
Just my Samsung TV reported wrong codec.
Full HD recordings didn't have problems at all.
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Any snapdragon 8xx, greater than 800, supports h265 playback. I currently have a Galaxy Note II which features an SD 800 and it can't decode h265.
And, about not having problems with 1080: Mate 9 only records with h265 on 4k. On 1080 resolution it uses h264.
But the point is... Google is not supporting h265 uploading on any of their services (photos, youtube and drive), even when youtube sometimes outputs h265. (On Drive you can upload it, but it can't make the video "streamable")
So... Is there a way to make Mate 9 record on 4K using h264 instead of h265?
My guess is using another camera. I imagine the 265 is there to keep filesize and perhaps iops down.
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Since this device is getting a lot of popularity and some updates where launched, I'll bump this post up.
Any news? Has Huawei updated their camera to disable h265 on 4k?
I hope Huawei can give us an option to switch 4k codecs. I dont mind having larger sized 4k videos as long as its a format that is widely supported. One of the reviews stated that recording at 1080/60 produces larger file size than 4k. 4k shouldnt be compressed too much. Or at least give us the option not to
My 4K TV not have any problem to play this video. But VLC in my PC not play correctly.
diablob said:
My 4K TV not have any problem to play this video. But VLC in my PC not play correctly.
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Yeah, VLC doesn't support it. You have to use the regular windows media player, and it will work. I'm using Windows 10 home, and the regular media player plays it. I tried all the known ways for VLC to work such as placebo and slowest in the codec info settings, and they don't work. It's a known issue with VLC to this day.
Ok thanks. I'll try.
You can also use "MPC-HC" which old name was "Media Player Classic" (it's not the old microsfot media player), there are bundles with a lot of codecs like https://www.codecguide.com/
I personally use the "Mega" variant. I love it because it suports shaders (it's gorgeous to watch 720p and 1080p reescaled to 4k and with 1 or 2 filters of "sharpen complex") and it also has a TON of options.
I've just realised this is a problem for me. I bought the phone also for video recording possibilities and low and behold my 4K won't play on YouTube, let alone upload.
This is a massive flaw IMO with this phone and I'm gonna have to look at offloading it. Shame.
btblue said:
This is a massive flaw IMO with this phone and I'm gonna have to look at offloading it. Shame.
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I wouldn't call it a flaw though, your device is using the most advanced 4K codec. Blame Google for not adopting the greatest and latest. But I see your point, you'll have to conform to whatever YouTube supports.
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Hello,
I copied the video files from my mate 9 to my pc. I can't play them even after installing klite codec for x265.
Any solution?
Hello everyone,
I have a few questions regarding 4K videos. I tried playing a 4K H265 10bit video on the phone using the native Sony Video app and, although it did play, it was slow as heck. Does the phone support such videos natively (i.e. Hardware Accelarated playback)? Is it an issue of the app itself? Since almost all 4k content, with or with HDR/10bit, is in H265 are we limited to Youtube and Amazon for 4K playback? Do I have to transcode all my 4K Blu-Ray movies to H264 in order to play them? Are there any third party players (e.g. bsplayer) that can play 4k videos (and utilize the phone's 4k resolution, not just play them in 1080p). Thank you all for your time.
I downloaded a 4k test sample encoded in x265 and played it with MX player app with hardware acceleration.
Worked perfectly. Smooth as butter.
fartyparty said:
i downloaded a 4k test sample encoded in x265 and played it with mx player app with hardware acceleration.
Worked perfectly. Smooth as butter.
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use mx player
Thanks a lot for your time. It seems that mx player does not use the phone's native 4K resolution though and displays a 1920x1080 image so there is no point in using it. My question is whether a video player app exists, besides Sony's native one, that is able to use the phone's 4K resolution, not just play 4K videos.
Liltman said:
Thanks a lot for your time. It seems that mx player does not use the phone's native 4K resolution though and displays a 1920x1080 image so there is no point in using it. My question is whether a video player app exists, besides Sony's native one, that is able to use the phone's 4K resolution, not just play 4K videos.
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I think you can change the phones overall resolution to 4K for that purpose: https://forum.xda-developers.com/xz-premium/themes/mod-change-default-resolution-to-4k-root-t3618843
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Liltman said:
Thanks a lot for your time. It seems that mx player does not use the phone's native 4K resolution though and displays a 1920x1080 image so there is no point in using it. My question is whether a video player app exists, besides Sony's native one, that is able to use the phone's 4K resolution, not just play 4K videos.
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Tried with Sony Xperia Video app and the 4K sample I downloaded runs the same as it runs in MX Player.
kot5nik said:
I think you can change the phones overall resolution to 4K for that purpose: https://forum.xda-developers.com/xz-premium/themes/mod-change-default-resolution-to-4k-root-t3618843
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Kot5nik, in my opinion, changing the resolution that android runs is not the proper way to go. Since XZ Premium is a device that supports 4k/HDR i shouldn't have to resort to "adb" to watch a 4k video in another app. Plus, by doing that, battery drain increases a bit, phone dialer app does not work, app switching does not show thumbnails etc.
FartyParty said:
Tried with Sony Xperia Video app and the 4K sample I downloaded runs the same as it runs in MX Player.
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FartyParty, I stand corrected. You are absolutely right. I took screenshots of both MX and Sony apps and the look identical. Only one difference though. It seems that MX Player doest not utilize HDR. There is a noticeable difference in contrast. You can see the attachments if you want to.
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Hello everyone,
I have a few questions regarding 4K videos. I tried playing a 4K H265 10bit video on the phone using the native Sony Video app and, although it did play, it was slow as heck. Does the phone support such videos natively (i.e. Hardware Accelarated playback)? Is it an issue of the app itself? Since almost all 4k content, with or with HDR/10bit, is in H265 are we limited to Youtube and Amazon for 4K playback? Do I have to transcode all my 4K Blu-Ray movies to H264 in order to play them? Are there any third party players (e.g. bsplayer) that can play 4k videos (and utilize the phone's 4k resolution, not just play them in 1080p). Thank you all for your time.
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Here is what i found from testing the device for 4K HDR videos
the device can and will play 4K H265 10bit and even HDR videos but there are things that need to be done to play perfectly
first you need to check for the containers to be mkv or mp4
second using sony app will not allow to play surround sound file like dts, ac3, AAC 5.1 or AAC 7.1
third which i think is very odd and stupid from sony is that how such a powerful device can't play mkv with AAC sound track no matter what stereo or surround.
The trick for this to use software where they can switch container without the need for converting the whole file from mkv to mp4.
Hi everyone,
I have to also agree with @Liltman and say that the MX Player does play video content in 4k however there is a very noticeable difference between the stock Sony album player and the MX player.
Sadly the Sony video player doesn't support truehd aac files so the video will play flawlessly without the sound :crying:
The MX Player on the other hand WILL play the sound but the quality of the video seems to take a small hit as it's not as vibrant as the Sony album player. This is because MX Player supports 4k but not HDR
I hope that Sony added codecs to make TrueHD sound files compatible with the Sony gallery player on Oreo but I am not very confident about that.
I would appreciate it if someone can find a way around this annoying issue. What software is @HYPER-RX referring to?
Thanks!
Try VLC guys. When I played an HDR video in VLC it tried to force my brightness to max like YouTube does. However, it had to ask for som system write permission to do it and it didnt work completely. See if VLC does a better job though I found it to be pretty good.
MX Player definitely does support HDR. You can tell because in HDR videos, if you try taking a screenshot, the screenshot will simply come out as black, whereas in SDR videos, you'll get a normal screenshot.
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Try VLC guys. When I played an HDR video in VLC it tried to force my brightness to max like YouTube does. However, it had to ask for som system write permission to do it and it didnt work completely. See if VLC does a better job though I found it to be pretty good.
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Hi I just tried VLC and you was spot on. I can see that it actually does support HDR however I'm still having audio issues with the sound. Especially the HEVC Atmos 7.1. Do I need to download a codec pack or something?
It's a shame because the video quality is incredible!
Working perfectly
I tried to play 4k hdr 60fps video using the sony video app. I had no issues with playing it. It was smooth no lags at all.
codec was hevc and bitrate was 75Mbps and audio was AAC.
nirai06 said:
I tried to play 4k hdr 60fps video using the sony video app. I had no issues with playing it. It was smooth no lags at all.
codec was hevc and bitrate was 75Mbps and audio was AAC.
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Thanks was this on Oreo? And the sound file was it 5.1 or 7.1?
so i recently purchased a Xperia XZ premium. I was really exited since i already have a massive library of 4K movies , and i get to watch them on the go. But sadly i found out the default Video player does not support H265 codec and i had no choice but to use VLC & MX player. so my problem is do i get the same level of HDR play back performance and up-scaling level with VB frame rate sync with these 3rd party players? because iv heard that the default video app has all of those options that i have pointed out.
Also please Let me know which player you use.. Thank you :angel:
But it must suppurt it becuase device can record 4k h265 by it self and can play that.
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But it must suppurt it becuase device can record 4k h265 by it self and can play that.
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Sadly the phone is only allowing us to run 4K files at H264 codec using the OEM app
That is not true. You can play h265 hevc movies with the album app. Also mkv files.
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But it must suppurt it becuase device can record 4k h265 by it self and can play that.
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Inerent said:
That is not true. You can play h265 hevc movies with the album app. Also mkv files.
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im not saying it cant.. but it lags like crazy.. ( stutters every frame. heck it even skip frames) fyi im on oreo ( 47.1.A.12.145)
No, it don't lags! You should check the thread download from Oreo to Nougat the back to oreo... It seems it is a problem with partition fragmentation... Or google play services... You can try to become beta for google play services, if not helps just downgrade to Nougat then update again to oreo
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No, it don't lags! You should check the thread download from Oreo to Nougat the back to oreo... It seems it is a problem with partition fragmentation... Or google play services... You can try to become beta for google play services, if not helps just downgrade to Nougat then update again to oreo
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Heck... so you are saying i can run 2160p 10 bit h265 HDR mkv files without a lag on default video player and the lag im getting is due to a software fragmentation? bruhhh.... sony why you do this.
@Inerent also my man i didnt get this part of what you said "You can try to become beta for google play services" care to explain ^_^
Nope it is not software dependent, actually it is the way the file encoded causes the problem. Try to shoot a video with 4K HEVC from your camera, you can play it without lag.
As far as I know it doesn't lags in 8bit, and unless you have OLED display (XZP has IPS) you can't really tell the difference. -- No you can tell the difference but sadly this doesn't change the situation.
MX Player is the greatest one in terms of playback, but VLC is Ad-Free and open source.
Here
I can record my video at 4k in h265 and I can see it
Hi there, I am using S10e. It supports HDR10+. I was trying to play a file (VP9 HDR WEBM container) that I downloaded from youtube. But strangely MX player is not picking up HDR. Does it support HDR in VP9 Codec? I tried both HW+ and SW Codecs but no success.
I tried playing the file via Samsung Video App but it showed an error probably due to either VP9 codec or Webm container.
Strangely I tried to play it via the Browser (Samsung Internet) via entering file:///sdcard/ and browsing to the file and it played in the Browser and also picked up the HDR (Brightness was automatically increased)
So can somebody help me with this?
UPDATE: I didn't mentioned that the video don't have any audio file and I had the audio file separately downloaded from youtube as you can't download HDR Videos and audio as a one file.
So I used the FFMPEG to mux them together in a Mkv Container and now video is played via Samsung Video Gallery with no error. It appears apparently lack of audio track resulted in error.
But HDR is not turning on even in Samsung Video Gallery. This suggests some deeper problem with VP9 HDR Playback. But then how Samsung Internet Browser was able to turn on HDR.
Anybody knows something on this?
So I searched about the VP9 Codec and it turns out it supports HDR via HLG (Hybrid Log Gamma) instead of HDR10. So the question really trickles to "Does MX Player support HLG HDR Videos?"
I tried searching Google about this but couldn't find anything. So if somebody knows answer it please.
And also Samsung Video Gallery does pick HDR. I missed it as I was able to manually adjust brightness which irc, you cannot in HDR10 Videos but maybe this might not be the case with HLG Videos. And Colors do looks washed out in MX Player as compared to Samsung Video Gallery.
Oh god this is confusing. Apparently Video is HDR10 not HLG and VP9 do support HDR10 (or PQ, I don't know).
I was really hoping Video be HLG as it answered nearly all of questions but it is not.
So why isn't MX Player turning on HDR. And why is there Brightness control in Samsung Video App and why it is not showing HDR Logo???
Goddamnit!!
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So I searched about the VP9 Codec and it turns out it supports HDR via HLG (Hybrid Log Gamma) instead of HDR10. So the question really trickles to "Does MX Player support HLG HDR Videos?"
I tried searching Google about this but couldn't find anything. So if somebody knows answer it please.
And also Samsung Video Gallery does pick HDR. I missed it as I was able to manually adjust brightness which irc, you cannot in HDR10 Videos but maybe this might not be the case with HLG Videos. And Colors do looks washed out in MX Player as compared to Samsung Video Gallery.
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We apologise for the delayed response.
We would like to let you know that MX Player's HW / HW+ decoders make use of the hardware-accelerated decoders shipped with the device. So, the HDR support highly depends on the decoders in your device.
Could you enable the video enhancer on your device settings and try again on MX Player's HW and HW+ decoders? It may fix your problems.
No need to apologize.
I turned on the Video Enhancer and played the video but it didn't turned on the HDR.
Just now as I was about to reply, I played the video with HW encoder and surprisingly HDR was turned on. Video enhancer was off this time. But it is not turning on HDR with HW+ encoder. So something is not right there.