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[TIP] [GUIDE] UK Banking Apps on Rooted Devices

My current setup: SGS 4 International [I9505] running Carbon Rom nightly with Philz CWM recovery.
For the past few weeks been looking for ways to run some UK banking apps, specifically Barclays Mobile Banking and the Lloyds Bank Mobile Banking apps. Both state explicitly that they do not run on rooted devices. I've tried:
Whole host of hide root apps from Play Store
RootCloak RootCloak @ XDA
The following is a simple guide of one way to solve this problem.
Concept
Set-up device to dual boot. Intent was second ROM would preferably be stock TouchWIz and secondly root free. To enable dual booting, the excellent dual ROM patcher here: [PATCHER][APP] Dual boot any ROM on all Galaxy S4 variants!.
I only use bank apps infrequently so was happy with dual boot solution.
In the end I wasn't able to find a Stock ROM that I could patch and run. So I resorted to CM11.
Guide
Download patcher app and dualbootutilities.zip.
Download secondary ROM, tested with CM11 nightly.
Download Gapps (something the patcher supports e.g. PA Gapps. Choose smallest size possible.)
Install patcher app and patch both secondary ROM (CM11) and Gapps (PA or other) [FOLLOW THREAD INSTRUCTIONS]
Boot into recovery create NANDROID BACKUP! [I had to use this twice when my first few attempts with different ROMS failed].
Install patched secondary ROM and patched Gapps.
Reboot (will boot into secondary ROM)
Login to Google account and install SuperSU (I had difficulty patching zip so downloaded off Play Store). Make sure you reboot.
Open CM File Manager and change settings from Safe Mode to Root.
Go to /system partition and open build.prop file (say yes to Root access)
Find line with "test-keys" and change to "release-keys" and save file.
Change CM file manager setting back to Safe Mode.
Open SuperSU and perform full "Unroot".
Disable CM SuperUser access via ROM settings.
REBOOT if you haven't already after previous step.
Via Play Store install banking apps.
Usage
Normally you would use patcher app to switch between ROMs by selecting first and then rebooting. However patcher app requires root access. To overcome this, reboot back into recovery and install dualbootutilities.zip. Select "Primary" and "Switch" to change ROMs. Reboot then to get back to primary ROM.
So in summary, relatively easy to go from primary to secondary ROM using patcher app, but a little more tedious on the way back (secondary --> recovery --> primary). Acceptable for infrequent use.
Thanks
@chenxiaolong
dafonehacker @ CM [http://forum.cyanogenmod.org/topic/92417-unroot-100-reliably-hide-root-on-cm11/]

New to OnePlus 6

Hi, im new to A/B partitions and PIE. I was Using OnePlus 3T before this. I have few questions.
1. Can i restore Titanium backup apps+data from Oreo to PIE?
2. Can i use magisk modules from Oreo?
3. Which modules are you guys using?

I wouldn't restore app data from Oreo to Pie. Personally I'm just running stock rooted, nothing more nothing less

1. Yes, titanium backups can be restored without any problem
2. Depends on the module. Check the module if it's compatible/updated for Pie.
3. Google Framework so i can use Google Dialer/Phone app. I'm also using Viper4Android module

Punkid said:
1. Yes, titanium backups can be restored without any problem
2. Depends on the module. Check the module if it's compatible/updated for Pie.
3. Google Framework so i can use Google Dialer/Phone app. I'm also using Viper4Android module
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Can u share the link for Pie? ive found some threads, but they support till Oreo.

Can you use Google framework on stable pie? I'm rooted with magisk on stable pie and I really want the Google dialer

Fully rooted but cannot make changes to internal apps, etc.

Hi all,
Am on Android 10 and phone has the latest TWRP, Magisk and busy box. In Magisk the Ramdisk is a YES. Titanium can disable internal apps no problem and seemingly uninstall them but after restarting the phone those apps re-appear. Also, though the latest MixPlorer and Root Explorer can edit/change Mixer_Paths, the original values come back after restarting the phone.
Can anyone advise how to solve this mystery.
Thanks in advance.

A10 and later , doesn't allow changing system files you need to do this via a magisk module systemless.

@soka said:
A10 and later , doesn't allow changing system files you need to do this via a magisk module systemless.
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Thanks for that. I googled 'magisk module systemless' but it came up with loads of different things. Not sure what I should look for.

Use the magisk module Debloater from magisk repo, you also need BusyBox module and Termux app from playstore.

RokCruz said:
Use the magisk module Debloater from magisk repo, you also need BusyBox module and Termux app from playstore.
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Much appreciated. Cheers

Magisk modules from physwizz

1. Debloater
physwizz debloat module
With physwizz-2 app
Magisk module to debloat any Samsung phone.
To debloat install the module from Magisk and reboot.
To rebloat delete the module in Magisk and reboot
2. Extras module
physwizz extras module
Magisk module to add extra system apps
Extras:
Battery charge limit
Clean Master (don't upgrade)
ES file explorer (don't upgrade)
HKtweaks
SimpleReboot
Root Explorer
Zarchiver
physwizz-2 app
@physwizz

physwizz debloat module v2
In post #1
@physwizz

Any feedback on this module?

Does it work in havoc os

undertaker8008 said:
Does it work in havoc os
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It might.
It's really designed for stock
Let me know

It intalled

The extras

The deblote said that wasn't a module

Look at the screenshot

undertaker8008 said:
Look at the screenshot
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I'll fix

Clean Master and ES File Explorer? Helll nahh.. chinese spyware bundle

SevastianXDA said:
Clean Master and ES File Explorer? Helll nahh.. chinese spyware bundle
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Lol.
The issue with these apps occurs in the newer versions because of the dodgy pop up adds.
That's why I use the older versions with no adds

Effect of Uninstalling Magisk

My phone is rooted with Magisk after installing TWRP recovery and it's working fine except banking apps which do not run due to rooted phone
I don't use functions of rooted phone so much, only in extracting whatsapp keys to backup my whatsapp chats etc
1) Can I uninstall/unroot Magisk anytime and reinstall/root again smoothly whenever the need arises?
2) Does installing/uninstalling root wipe data?
3) I saw following para in https://magiskmanager.com/uninstall-magisk
Your phone will be rebooted automatically. Don’t worry it is normal
That’s it! You have successfully uninstalled Magisk from your phone.
This process will completely delete all the files from your phone, and you don’t need to worry about anything.
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What's meaning of "This process will completely delete all the files from your phone" here?
Thanks & regards,
Maria.

AFAIK any tampering of a phone's Stock ROM can get detectected by banking / payment apps - if they want to. IMO the very only method to remove all traces of modifcations applied to phone's Stock ROM is to re-flash phone's Stock what in turn causes the loss of all user data stored on phone.

1) Can I uninstall/unroot Magisk anytime and reinstall/root again smoothly whenever the need arises?
Yes.
2) Does installing/uninstalling root wipe data?
No. As long as you're not locking/unlocking your bootloader, you should be fine. Always a good idea to back up your data and system bacakup since you have TWRP anyway.
3) I saw following para in https://magiskmanager.com/uninstall-magisk
I believe this is reffering to all the MAgisk data only.

Andrologic said:
1) Can I uninstall/unroot Magisk anytime and reinstall/root again smoothly whenever the need arises?
Yes.
2) Does installing/uninstalling root wipe data?
No. As long as you're not locking/unlocking your bootloader, you should be fine. Always a good idea to back up your data and system bacakup since you have TWRP anyway.
3) I saw following para in https://magiskmanager.com/uninstall-magisk
I believe this is reffering to all the MAgisk data only.
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Thank you very much for your reply

Maria2014 said:
I am having the same problem. I want to ask if you tried uninstall magisk ? What happened ?
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My dear, I install and uninstall Magisk all the time. Legitimately speaking, never once did it wipe my data ever. Unless you unlock or relock your bootloader, you will be completely fine.

Shabeeh Manappurath said:
My dear, I install and uninstall Magisk all the time. Legitimately speaking, never once did it wipe my data ever. Unless you unlock or relock your bootloader, you will be completely fine.
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Hi,
Could you advice pls.
After updating magisk it stopped working..
Shuld I uninstall it and then reinstall?
Will my modouls be earased? I am very worried taking this step..
Thanks in advance

tuvia_g123 said:
Hi,
Could you advice pls.
After updating magisk it stopped working..
Shuld I uninstall it and then reinstall?
Will my modouls be earased? I am very worried taking this step..
Thanks in advance
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My advise is, Incase you feel your modules will be erased, just take a screenshot of ur magisk Modules. Screenshot which you can use to later download the exact same modules. Or u can keep magisk module downloaded before hand. Now if magisk is not working, magisk Modules will not show for you.
If magisk is not working, you don't need to uninstall it. Just go to recovery and reflash the magisk.zip or magisk.apk. both will work, bcos that is how it is. Magisk.apk can be directly flashed from recovery menu. Once you reinstall magisk from recovery and it should start working. If after reboot, it is still not working, then just install magisk.apk while you are in android. (Not in recovery, but normal mode) and then open it and see what it says.
If I can help, I will surely. Let me know how it goes. Usually no data is erased. Don't worry. Magisk Modules or magisk, don't effect the system. U can also download magisk uninstaller.zip if you want to completely uninstall magisk.

Shabeeh Manappurath said:
My advise is, Incase you feel your modules will be erased, just take a screenshot of ur magisk Modules. Screenshot which you can use to later download the exact same modules. Or u can keep magisk module downloaded before hand. Now if magisk is not working, magisk Modules will not show for you.
If magisk is not working, you don't need to uninstall it. Just go to recovery and reflash the magisk.zip or magisk.apk. both will work, bcos that is how it is. Magisk.apk can be directly flashed from recovery menu. Once you reinstall magisk from recovery and it should start working. If after reboot, it is still not working, then just install magisk.apk while you are in android. (Not in recovery, but normal mode) and then open it and see what it says.
If I can help, I will surely. Let me know how it goes. Usually no data is erased. Don't worry. Magisk Modules or magisk, don't effect the system. U can also download magisk uninstaller.zip if you want to completely uninstall magisk.
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Thank you very much for your detailed and clear answer.
In the next few days I will find time and try.
Of course I will update you.

tuvia_g123 said:
Thank you very much for your detailed and clear answer.
In the next few days I will find time and try.
Of course I will update you.
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Alright Dear, take your time, and let me know, I hope everything works out for you. And Your Welcome

Shabeeh Manappurath said:
Alright Dear, take your time, and let me know, I hope everything works out for you. And Your Welcome
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Hello dear friend,
Looks like I deleted the original zip file.
Can you pls. attach a link that wont be malware of a magisk zip?
Thanks a lot

tuvia_g123 said:
Hello dear friend,
Looks like I deleted the original zip file.
Can you pls. attach a link that wont be malware of a magisk zip?
Thanks a lot
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The best, and only official place to download magisk from is GitHub. At least I think. And well there is one another website I download it from, it's not malware, but I will provide you with the GitHub link itself.
For Magisk v23.0 (One with MagiskHide)(This release also has online module repo, where you can download extra supported modules for your device from online repo of magisk)
https://github.com/topjohnwu/Magisk/releases/download/v23.0/Magisk-v23.0.apk
For Magisk v25.2 (It does not have MagiskHide, but this is much more better, and there are more effective ways to hide root using Zygisk (new feature in Magisk v24 onwards I believe) (This one does not have Online Repo for Magisk modules, it was also removed in a previous version of Magisk, and you can use Fox's Magisk Modules manager if you want to access and download magisk Modules for any of the future releases for Magisk) If you want the link for Magisk v25.2 then here it is:
https://github.com/topjohnwu/Magisk/releases/download/v25.2/Magisk-v25.2.apk
Just if u face any difficulty in flashing the apk file in recovery, just rename it to magisk v23/v25.2 (whichever u choose, I kinda recommend using the latest version) and rename it into . Zip. And if u plan on going with v25.2 and want to access the latest online repo and some of their own Magisk modules, then here is the link for the latest version of Fox's Magisk Modules manager:
Release 0.6.1 - Maintenance Update · Fox2Code/FoxMagiskModuleManager
Add Androidacy test-mode fix to non test-mode Update Brazilian translations by @DanGLES3
github.com
I am currently using the latest Magisk v25.2 on my phone, and currently running on the latest version of Fox's Magisk Modules manager as well. And also, using the method for hiding root that I mentioned before, I am completely successful in covering my root, and my safety net is passed. Completely Passed. Play store or any other app I don't want it detecting root, does not detect root. So we all good if you want to flash the latest update of Magisk.

Shabeeh Manappurath said:
The best, and only official place to download magisk from is GitHub. At least I think. And well there is one another website I download it from, it's not malware, but I will provide you with the GitHub link itself.
For Magisk v23.0 (One with MagiskHide)(This release also has online module repo, where you can download extra supported modules for your device from online repo of magisk)
https://github.com/topjohnwu/Magisk/releases/download/v23.0/Magisk-v23.0.apk
For Magisk v25.2 (It does not have MagiskHide, but this is much more better, and there are more effective ways to hide root using Zygisk (new feature in Magisk v24 onwards I believe) (This one does not have Online Repo for Magisk modules, it was also removed in a previous version of Magisk, and you can use Fox's Magisk Modules manager if you want to access and download magisk Modules for any of the future releases for Magisk) If you want the link for Magisk v25.2 then here it is:
https://github.com/topjohnwu/Magisk/releases/download/v25.2/Magisk-v25.2.apk
Just if u face any difficulty in flashing the apk file in recovery, just rename it to magisk v23/v25.2 (whichever u choose, I kinda recommend using the latest version) and rename it into . Zip. And if u plan on going with v25.2 and want to access the latest online repo and some of their own Magisk modules, then here is the link for the latest version of Fox's Magisk Modules manager:
Release 0.6.1 - Maintenance Update · Fox2Code/FoxMagiskModuleManager
Add Androidacy test-mode fix to non test-mode Update Brazilian translations by @DanGLES3
github.com
I am currently using the latest Magisk v25.2 on my phone, and currently running on the latest version of Fox's Magisk Modules manager as well. And also, using the method for hiding root that I mentioned before, I am completely successful in covering my root, and my safety net is passed. Completely Passed. Play store or any other app I don't want it detecting root, does not detect root. So we all good if you want to flash the latest update of Magisk.
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Hi,
I prefer v 23 because it has the hide option builtin.
However after flashing it(i think succesfuli) i do not find any new app in my fhone..

tuvia_g123 said:
Hi,
I prefer v 23 because it has the hide option builtin.
However after flashing it(i think succesfuli) i do not find any new app in my fhone..
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Alright your preference is your own, but maybe hear me out, v23 will soon become outdated, as in some magisk Modules will stop working for it. And the magisk hide, according to the founder of Magisk @topjohnwu, he said that magisk hide is become really ineffective in blocking root, or stopping apps from detecting root. If you want a more powerful version of Magisk hide, update to v25.2 and I will show you how to activate it step by step. It's not built-in, rather it is a new module. So yeah.
Alright and about your question; if you don't find the app in your phone, in your apps drawer, just open file explorer, go to the location where u have kept the magisk.zip file or magisk.apk file. If u have the apk file then just install it once more, from android while in normal mode. If you have the zip file, then just rename to .APK and install it same like above. Then open magisk to continue (mostly after proper install, magisk will reboot your phone once more). Any steps you are stuck in, pls sent me a screenshot, so that I can help.

Shabeeh Manappurath said:
Alright your preference is your own, but maybe hear me out, v23 will soon become outdated, as in some magisk Modules will stop working for it. And the magisk hide, according to the founder of Magisk @topjohnwu, he said that magisk hide is become really ineffective in blocking root, or stopping apps from detecting root. If you want a more powerful version of Magisk hide, update to v25.2 and I will show you how to activate it step by step. It's not built-in, rather it is a new module. So yeah.
Alright and about your question; if you don't find the app in your phone, in your apps drawer, just open file explorer, go to the location where u have kept the magisk.zip file or magisk.apk file. If u have the apk file then just install it once more, from android while in normal mode. If you have the zip file, then just rename to .APK and install it same like above. Then open magisk to continue (mostly after proper install, magisk will reboot your phone once more). Any steps you are stuck in, pls sent me a screenshot, so that I can help.
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Hi,i took your advice and flashed v. 25.2, however i think that the installation failed..

tuvia_g123 said:
Hi,i took your advice and flashed v. 25.2, however i think that the installation failed..
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Hey, I see, okay use magisk uninstaller to completely remove v23 first, and then flash v25.2 afterwards.
From what I researched, it seems u can easily uninstall magisk by renaming magisk v25.2.apk (the file we downloaded) rename it into uninstall.zip
And then reboot to recovery, flash it from recovery to completely uninstall magisk v23. (Make a copy of the file before renaming into uninstall.zip.) that way we can flash v25.2.apk /v25.2.zip directly.
Hope everything works for you.

Shabeeh Manappurath said:
Hey, I see, okay use magisk uninstaller to completely remove v23 first, and then flash v25.2 afterwards.
Just to be sure,v. 23 that I want to uninstall not to rename?
From what I researched, it seems u can easily uninstall magisk by renaming magisk v25.2.apk (the file we downloaded) rename it into uninstall.zip
And then reboot to recovery, flash it from recovery to completely uninstall magisk v23. (Make a copy of the file before renaming into Uninstall.zip.) that waysure that I understood.. we can flash v25.2.apk /v25.2.zip directly.
not sure that i understands.
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Shabeeh Manappurath said:
Not
Hope everything workNs for you.
Hey, I see, okay use magisk uninstaller to completely remove v23 first, and then flash v25.2 afterwards.
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From what I researched, it seems u can easily uninstall magisk by renaming magisk v25.2.apk (the file we downloaded) rename it into uninstall.zip
And then reboot to recovery, flash it from recovery to completely uninstall magisk v23. (Make a copy of the file before renaming into uninstall.zip.) that way we can flash v25.2.apk /v25.2.zip directly.
Hope everything works for you.
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Not sure that I understood.
Not to rename Version 23 that I want to uninstall?
Rename v25 that we want to keep?

https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1XvA2wCzCfSgQGJRgzJ-yklOYn99DDjBQ
Just Flash that, in order to uninstall Magisk from your device. And then, install the latest Magisk v25.2

Shabeeh Manappurath said:
https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1XvA2wCzCfSgQGJRgzJ-yklOYn99DDjBQ
Just Flash that, in order to uninstall Magisk from your device. And then, install the latest Magisk v25.2
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Hi dear,
First of all thank you again.
After flashing this when i am entering again to recovery I don't get the screen of twarp as before.
However installation of v. 25.2 (in recovery)failed again..
Atached screen shots.