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dev scene seems good soo far. just curious thoughts on seeing lineage or aosp based development. :fingers-crossed:
does anyone know if lineage is in the works for the u11?
sure should happen eventually. The U11 could use some Dirty Unicorns..
agreed I'm shocked there is no word of lineage yet. unless they are waiting on Android O to be released first.
And end up with a bad camera and not be able to use nfc for payments? For the 10 there was only 1 developer... The only benefit is an updated OS and regular security updates.
i just checked the 10 forums theres plenty of aosp roms.
Yes there will be. I've started working on a device tree for AOSP/Slim, not sure if anyone in Lineage has started working on it yet. I've just been really busy... if anyone wants to give me a hand drop me a message
I really hope we get some once S-Off works with our device.
I'll like to see Lineage OS in this phone.
So in about 15 hours I can unlock my phone finally. First thing I want to try is to install an AOSP Rom from the Treble thread. Did anyone already did this if so how and is everything working well?
I'm going to try it tommorow, if anyone is willing to upload the stock camera app I would be very grateful. So I can try if that app works on a stock Android Rom.
I did try it and mobile data didn't work for me, so I didn't test any further. Also the screen flickers sometimes.
you guys should know that treble is intended towards OEMs and not end users. Treble is nowhere near stable and oyu will have to wait for xiaomi to fix it.
and also you need xiaomis framework in order to use any of the miui apps. Since it is closed source you wont be able to use the camera ever on a custom rom.
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you guys should know that treble is intended towards OEMs and not end users. Treble is nowhere near stable and oyu will have to wait for xiaomi to fix it.
and also you need xiaomis framework in order to use any of the miui apps. Since it is closed source you wont be able to use the camera ever on a custom rom.
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You sure about the part with the camera? For example with the mi mix 2 you can use the camera on aosp based custom roms.
Edit: Or are you talking about treble roms specifically?
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You sure about the part with the camera? For example with the mi mix 2 you can use the camera on aosp based custom roms.
Edit: Or are you talking about treble roms specifically?
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im mainly talking about the specific miui camera modules like libraries etc. only google cam port comes close to that. (at least so far)
can you link me the a rom with the camera mod for the mix 2?
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You sure about the part with the camera? For example with the mi mix 2 you can use the camera on aosp based custom roms.
Edit: Or are you talking about treble roms specifically?
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im talking about the miui specific camera modules. as far as i know only the google cam port comes close to that quality.
can you link me a asop rom for the mix 2 with the miui camera mod please?
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im mainly talking about the specific miui camera modules like libraries etc. only google cam port comes close to that. (at least so far)
can you link me the a rom with the camera mod for the mix 2?
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im talking about the miui specific camera modules. as far as i know only the google cam port comes close to that quality.
can you link me a asop rom for the mix 2 with the miui camera mod please?
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Sorry I misunderstood you. I thought you said that the camera won't work on aosp based roms at all... This is why I was curious because I was sure I saw mi mix 2 phones with a working cam on aosp. I never owned a xiaomi device before, is the camera quality really that much worse than with miui cam app?
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Sorry I misunderstood you. I thought you said that the camera won't work on aosp based roms at all... This is why I was curious because I was sure I saw mi mix 2 phones with a working cam on aosp. I never owned a xiaomi device before, is the camera quality really that much worse than with miui cam app?
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Well normally the biggest downsides of custom roms is inferior camera quality (for the reason stated above). Especially on custom roms for xiaomi phones since they hardly released any sources. Nowdays it changed a bit, google camera port delivers (sometimes) better quality photos if used right.
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Well normally the biggest downsides of custom roms is inferior camera quality (for the reason stated above). Especially on custom roms for xiaomi phones since they hardly released any sources. Nowdays it changed a bit, google camera port delivers (sometimes) better quality photos if used right.
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Ok, thanks for the explanation, in 4 years with the 1+1 camera quality never was important for me... let's hope the best for a good cam quality on custom roms for the 2s, if there will be any...
which other hardware features would we lose on an aosp rom on the mix 2s?
would the fingerprint scanner still work to unlock the phone?
what about pulling the status bar down with the fingerprint scanner?
and face unlock?
camera quality is usually the biggest drawback when switching to custom roms though. when I first heard of project treble I thought that this issue would be gone! i got the impression that the hardware drivers would stay in one partition and over it you could install an AOSP rom. sounded like the best of both worlds! running an aosp rom but still having the same camera quality!
I'm pretty sure that's not the case though. as soon as you flash an aosp rom on a treble device you're back to the point where we've always been. it's just like running a custom rom a year ago. you lose the features, drivers,...
correct me if I'm wrong!
vercetti said:
which other hardware features would we lose on an aosp rom on the mix 2s?
would the fingerprint scanner still work to unlock the phone?
what about pulling the status bar down with the fingerprint scanner?
and face unlock?
camera quality is usually the biggest drawback when switching to custom roms though. when I first heard of project treble I thought that this issue would be gone! i got the impression that the hardware drivers would stay in one partition and over it you could install an AOSP rom. sounded like the best of both worlds! running an aosp rom but still having the same camera quality!
I'm pretty sure that's not the case though. as soon as you flash an aosp rom on a treble device you're back to the point where we've always been. it's just like running a custom rom a year ago. you lose the features, drivers,...
correct me if I'm wrong!
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Well, these features are mostly implemented in system software. If the fingerprint gesture is present as a default feature in AOSP, you will have it when you flash a treble rom. If AOSP supports two cameras, you will be able to use them by default in treble etc.
The features generally depend whats implemented in AOSP.
(Assuming that xiaomi implemented treble in the way which is specified by google)
Saiger said:
Well normally the biggest downsides of custom roms is inferior camera quality (for the reason stated above). Especially on custom roms for xiaomi phones since they hardly released any sources. Nowdays it changed a bit, google camera port delivers (sometimes) better quality photos if used right.
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what would you recommend to a western user to get the best out of the camera? To use it default's OS?
I'm planning on buying a Chinese model (my gf is going to China, idk if they sell Global version there) and change it by hand to a global version with google and all. Is that a bad idea?
Xanduba said:
what would you recommend to a western user to get the best out of the camera? To use it default's OS?
I'm planning on buying a Chinese model (my gf is going to China, idk if they sell Global version there) and change it by hand to a global version with google and all. Is that a bad idea?
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camera quality wont change if you flash the global rom. just make sure you know what you are doing.
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So in about 15 hours I can unlock my phone finally. First thing I want to try is to install an AOSP Rom from the Treble thread. Did anyone already did this if so how and is everything working well?
I'm going to try it tommorow, if anyone is willing to upload the stock camera app I would be very grateful. So I can try if that app works on a stock Android Rom.
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So, did you try some GSI images? They have AOSP, AOKP, LOS, RR and AOSIP now.
Are they working for you?
Xanduba said:
what would you recommend to a western user to get the best out of the camera? To use it default's OS?
I'm planning on buying a Chinese model (my gf is going to China, idk if they sell Global version there) and change it by hand to a global version with google and all. Is that a bad idea?
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You can just flash global rom or xiaomi.eu Rom, it works just fine for me (I'm from Germany). Camera quality is the same as it is with China Rom. If you buy Chinese version and flash global rom there is no real difference to buying global version (except some Lte bands you probably don't need anyway)
Edit: just saw in another thread that you said you need band 28, I think only 256gb Chinese version or 64gb and 128gb global version have Band 28 so you either have to get the 256gb version or buy a global version
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So, did you try some GSI images? They have AOSP, AOKP, LOS, RR and AOSIP now.
Are they working for you?
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I've tried the AOSP one and it is working surprisingly well, apart from the screen flickering when locking/unlocking and obviously the camera which is normal. The rest of them should perform identically.
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I've tried the AOSP one and it is working surprisingly well, apart from the screen flickering when locking/unlocking and obviously the camera which is normal. The rest of them should perform identically.
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Which version did you try? Do you know if that is present on other phh gsi roms?
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Which version did you try? Do you know if that is present on other phh gsi roms?
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Tried v16 I think, maybe some of the recent patches fixed this problem but I haven't tried the latest one.
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Tried v16 I think, maybe some of the recent patches fixed this problem but I haven't tried the latest one.
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What was that screen flickering btw? Did you report it? I don't see anyone mentioning it on the AOSP thread.
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What was that screen flickering btw? Did you report it? I don't see anyone mentioning it on the AOSP thread.
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Nope, I didn't report it as I went back straight to MIUI so I couldn't have provided any additional feedback to the dev. It wasn't a huge problem for me though as it flicks between min and max brightness only once or twice and only during locking/unlocking (during the usual AOSP screen fading animation). Might report it one day when I'd be in mood to try it again.
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I've tried the AOSP one and it is working surprisingly well, apart from the screen flickering when locking/unlocking and obviously the camera which is normal. The rest of them should perform identically.
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I'm on the v21 Treble 8.1 now, camera and video works fine, but no slow motion and no 2nd camera.
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Nope, I didn't report it as I went back straight to MIUI so I couldn't have provided any additional feedback to the dev. It wasn't a huge problem for me though as it flicks between min and max brightness only once or twice and only during locking/unlocking (during the usual AOSP screen fading animation). Might report it one day when I'd be in mood to try it again.
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screen issue was fixed in v21 and it's very stable for daily use now(used for 1.5 days)
I apologize in advance if this is breaking rules begging for updates, I don't want to do that. I just want to know if my understanding of the situation is correct; I've never flashed a custom ROM before. At a high level, my current understanding is:
1. AOSP camera works in Custom ROMs but are not very good, because there is a lot of proprietary stuff in cameras that manufacturers put in. It is hard to get blobs working well on custom ROMs because source code is unlikely to be released.
2. Historically, XDA contributors, after a lot of work, were able to get OnePlus 3/3T camera blobs from OxygenOS working about as well on custom ROMs as on OxygenOS. I'm not sure if this is true for the 5/5T. I don't know if this tells us anything about the OnePlus 6 or not.
3. XDA contributors are currently looking at porting Google Cam to the OnePlus 6, which might be even better than stock, but might never work well. Work by developers here is ongoing. (Do historic GCam ports work on custom ROMs?)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/themes/oneplus-6-google-camera-port-t3797544
My question is: Is this all the known relevant information, as of right now? Are there other camera projects I should be following?
Thank you!
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I apologize in advance if this is breaking rules begging for updates, I don't want to do that. I just want to know if my understanding of the situation is correct; I've never flashed a custom ROM before. At a high level, my current understanding is:
1. AOSP camera works in Custom ROMs but are not very good, because there is a lot of proprietary stuff in cameras that manufacturers put in. It is hard to get blobs working well on custom ROMs because source code is unlikely to be released.
2. Historically, XDA contributors, after a lot of work, were able to get OnePlus 3/3T camera blobs from OxygenOS working about as well on custom ROMs as on OxygenOS. I'm not sure if this is true for the 5/5T. I don't know if this tells us anything about the OnePlus 6 or not.
3. XDA contributors are currently looking at porting Google Cam to the OnePlus 6, which might be even better than stock, but might never work well. Work by developers here is ongoing. (Do historic GCam ports work on custom ROMs?)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/themes/oneplus-6-google-camera-port-t3797544
My question is: Is this all the known relevant information, as of right now? Are there other camera projects I should be following?
Thank you!
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It's all known. Google has made their camera software public for a while now. A very capable developer who has developed a working gcam for other devices will be receiving a op6 from op so development will continue for the gcam for the 6. It will take some more time for a stable version to be released.
This might be a bit of difficult question but which rom do you prefer between the two?
I used havoc in it's early stages and it was great and still seems super solid but I'm tempted to come off the Android P beta and move back to either Havoc or Liquid. I see they are both similar but at the same time pretty different. I would love to hear about your experiences and thoughts on both.
Thank you!
For me its havoc
for some reason after setting up and restarting both roms get stuck on starting android and they dont support the notch
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for some reason after setting up and restarting both roms get stuck on starting android and they dont support the notch
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I never had an issue installing but I thought havoc supported the notch. Thank you for the info!
Faaris Ansari said:
for some reason after setting up and restarting both roms get stuck on starting android and they dont support the notch
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This happens when your using the fingerprint unlock feature when your device is encrypted. If you have a decrypted device then you won't get that Android is starting message that never ends when using the fingerprint to unlock immediately after reboot. And if your encrypted still it's easy to fix if it's happening. Just lock your phone again then unlock with pin and you won't have that problem. But if your want to use that feature then you must be decrypted. And I have no problem with the notch at all. Havoc is better by far everything is working including oos cam. Liquid still has features that don't work and haven't worked since it started being built on op5 and 5t and they are still present on op6 and I've notified them of this and they still don't bother to fix it. And these exact same issues are also present in franken cause it's a copy of liquid. I feel these devs don't focus on making sure all the features in their roms actually work. But havoc is flawless right now unless your want to complain about the notch which I have no issues with since I set smallest width to where everything fits fine without the notch intruding and the pie version is already being started.
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This happens when your using the fingerprint unlock feature when your device is encrypted. If you have a decrypted device then you won't get that Android is starting message that never ends when using the fingerprint to unlock immediately after reboot. And if your encrypted still it's easy to fix if it's happening. Just lock your phone again then unlock with pin and you won't have that problem. But if your want to use that feature then you must be decrypted. And I have no problem with the notch at all. Havoc is better by far everything is working including oos cam. Liquid still has features that don't work and haven't worked since it started being built on op5 and 5t and they are still present on op6 and I've notified them of this and they still don't bother to fix it. And these exact same issues are also present in franken cause it's a copy of liquid. I feel these devs don't focus on making sure all the features in their roms actually work. But havoc is flawless right now unless your want to complain about the notch which I have no issues with since I set smallest width to where everything fits fine without the notch intruding and the pie version is already being started.
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Well I'm on the open beta. Also does havoc pass safety net and does it have face unlock I didn't test fully when I had it
Havoc has more customizations but more bugs. Liquid has less bugs but slightly less customizations. Havoc is based off Lineage and Liquid is based off AOSP. I enjoy both but for me Liquid is the best. Battery life is about the same on both. The gestures work better on Liquid then they do on Havoc. I'm currently running Liquid and it passes safetynet.
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Well I'm on the open beta. Also does havoc pass safety net and does it have face unlock I didn't test fully when I had it
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yes and yes. Safety net failures aren't the roms fault that was magisk itself because the API was out of date but with magisk 17 that's all fixed.
ASOP or LOS. If you prefer the former, go with Liquid. If you prefer the latter (as I do), go with Havoc.
Another option if you want the extra features of these custom ROMs, but also really prefer ? to Oreo is the Havoc ? treble (GSI) build. Havoc ? is currently based off of AOSP and not LOS as Lineage 16/? source code is not yet available. I am hoping that Havoc ? will switch back to a LOS base once Lineage 16 comes out and the source tree is published.
is general gsi roms good enough for our device or is it better to wait for specific rom that is well modified for our device??? In other words is there any general gsi rom that is good enough and has major hardware parts working (camera, wifi, hotspot, brightness, bluetooth... Etc) ???
Thanks
Has anyone tried Havoc OS ROM ?
Generally speaking they're good enough to use assuming you can get them installed on you phone. I was using Phh's unofficial Ressurection Remix Rom for a while, and the biggest issue I had was the fingerprint sensor acting as a mouse button when the screen was on. Otherwise everything was very smooth and worked like what I expected them too. Battery life might have been a bit worse than it was on MIUI. I've had similar results on all of Phh's ROMs, although I haven't really tried images from too many other developers.
Installing them can be a struggle. It seems like half of the time I try to flash one I need to wipe everything on the phone to get it to work, but other times I can flash them with no issues. That's not specific to GSI images though. I've probably wiped my phone (system and storage contents) half a dozen times because I accidentally soft bricked my phone trying to flash something. That's probably more user error more than anything else.
I have also never been able to get gapps to flash on a GSI ROM. I've always had to use ones with them built in.
I ended up going back to MIUI because the GCam mod wasn't working properly, and a large reason for buying the phone was for the camera. I'll probably go back to Treble images once the major ROMs start releasing Pie variants, assuming we don't get some native ROMs first.
Anyone else get a trebble rom to work yet?
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Anyone else get a trebble rom to work yet?
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I flashed a lot of them. Most have bugs as you can imagine e but that's not the rom's or devs fault.
I had installed
Official Resurrection ReMix
Phh treble AOSP
Pixel Experience version 8.1 and 9
Polaris Pixel experience
Google extended
All with similar bugs/features. The 8.1 versions work pretty well, the pie versions have all the same bugs. But they are daily driver material in my opinion if you can do without some functions. Some of them have enough no working camera, others have trouble with NFC and bluetooth.
Others have distorted sounds (which can be easily fixed).
Just browse the treble development thread and find out what fits best for you.
I'm using pixel experience official 8.1 and 9 unofficial (on two separate MiMix2S) and so far it works for me.
I think the best by now is the official 8.1 PE rom. Most of the things I'm using do work really well. Now I'm eagerly waiting for the Polaris Pixel Experience Pie rom...hope it will arrive soon.
I think we own a not very popular device so devs are rare but there are some of them doing a great job and working on those issues. Maybe some could donate some bucks like I did to keep them motivated and show some appreciation for their hard work.
I've had the best experience with the Benzo 9.0 ROM.
How is the camera on GSI roms? One of the reasons I updated from the mix 2 to the mix 2s was for the camera.
Is it comparable to MIUI?, or total ****?
I am using the AOSP 9.0 rom by @phhusson: https://github.com/phhusson/treble_experimentations/releases
Apart from the camera, I'm not aware of any known issues. Bluetooth, NFC, Sound and Calling issues have all been resolved (thank you very much @phhusson). I guess there are other issues I did not hit yet
The camera app I use is from here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xi...ed-p-mix2s-t3838406/post77529938#post77529938
Its possible to take good pictures (without color issues) but some feature like HDR, portrait don't work.
As a base for this rom, I use the most current global beta from here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-mi-mix-2s/how-to/miui-based-android-9-pie-t3826402
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How is the camera on GSI roms? One of the reasons I updated from the mix 2 to the mix 2s was for the camera.
Is it comparable to MIUI?, or total ****?
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It's definitely a step down.
Guys check this out!
http://en.miui.com/thread-4114962-1-1.html
I think I should try it!
Any1 tried it? Please confirm if so
jouid33 said:
Guys check this out!
http://en.miui.com/thread-4114962-1-1.html
I think I should try it!
Any1 tried it? Please confirm if so
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So it's basically a link to a ROM we already know...or is there any device specific features included?
If it's the aosp ROM by phhusson it's stock Android and works smooth but lacks some features IMHO. Nothing fancy but a great leap forward in treble development. Great guy developing good and stable roms.
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is general gsi roms good enough for our device or is it better to wait for specific rom that is well modified for our device??? In other words is there any general gsi rom that is good enough and has major hardware parts working (camera, wifi, hotspot, brightness, bluetooth... Etc) ???
Thanks
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Install this and be a happy little camper:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xi...pie-testing-pixel-experience-polaris-t3855036
Using it as my daily driver now. Almost all bugs sorted out that bothered me with the gsi images.
kleinholzinferno said:
Install this and be a happy little camper:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xi...pie-testing-pixel-experience-polaris-t3855036
Using it as my daily driver now. Almost all bugs sorted out that bothered me with the gsi images.
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Thanks for sharing ill sure try it out
guys check this out!
https://download.mokeedev.com/?device=polaris
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guys check this out!
https://download.mokeedev.com/?device=polaris
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Please anyone willing to try it give us feedback of how stable is it and what is not working
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Please anyone willing to try it give us feedback of how stable is it and what is not working
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Why don't you try it for yourself and report how it's working? I'm interested too, maybe this has some features I could use.
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Why don't you try it for yourself and report how it's working? I'm interested too, maybe this has some features I could use.
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Im seeing that they are updating it daily so i said ill wait 1 week and then try it.