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Mi 10 8/256 vs Pocophone F2 Pro 8/256 vs OnePlus 8 256/12

Hello
Next week im buying new mobile and need your help to choose one
My deliberation is among the following devices:
Mi 10 8/256: (we have no Mi 10 Pro in my country )
Pros:
( + ) Good camera
( + ) Good cooling.
( + ) Good battery life.
( + ) Good screen.
( + ) Good Speakers.
Cons:
( - ) No Portrait Telephoto zoom.
Pocophone F2 Pro 8/256:
Pros:
( + ) Good cooling.
( + ) Good battery life.
( + ) Fast.
Cons:
( - ) Weak vibration motor.
( - ) Lack of OIS on cam just EIS.
( - ) No Portrait Telephoto zoom
OnePlus 8 256/12:
Pros:
( + ) Good Speakers.
( + ) 12GB RAM.
( + ) Near stock android.
Cons:
( - ) No Portrait Telephoto zoom.
( - ) Mediocre camera
( - ) Small battery compared to Mi10 / F2 PRO

Who told you the vibration is bad on the Poco f2 pro?
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So it's simple, if you care about camera, go for mi 10.
If you care about a full screen display without a horrible punch hole, go for Poco f2
Out of these 3 , there's not reason to go for OnePlus. Mi 10 has a bigger battery, bigger screen, and looks better

One thing the OnePlus 8 has going for it is the dev community is good.
I thought this phone would have more Devs!

The poco f2 pro camera is a very good camera, macro mode is amazing, and the gcam make a perfect work.
I only wait a more kinds of roms for this beast.

XDRdaniel said:
Who told you the vibration is bad on the Poco f2 pro?
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So it's simple, if you care about camera, go for mi 10.
If you care about a full screen display without a horrible punch hole, go for Poco f2
Out of these 3 , there's not reason to go for OnePlus. Mi 10 has a bigger battery, bigger screen, and looks better
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MKHD mentioned that the vibration motor is "fine" thats why i've mentioned it.
Anyone has Mi 10 Non-pro \ Pocophone F2 Pro and give their opinion?
2nd question, do you think that 8GB ram is enough for the next 2yr's?
That's why i was considering the OP8 256/12 in first place
Again thanks helping me guys

GUARDIANBD said:
MKHD mentioned that the vibration motor is "fine" thats why i've mentioned it.
Anyone has Mi 10 Non-pro \ Pocophone F2 Pro and give their opinion?
2nd question, do you think that 8GB ram is enough for the next 2yr's?
That's why i was considering the OP8 256/12 in first place
Again thanks helping me guys
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I can compare the vibra motor to a mi 9t pro and even to an iPhone 11 pro max (I own both as well as the poco). I have to say I quite like it. Its a great improvement from the last years mi 9t pro and not falling much behind of the iPhone. Over all its a good experience.
Why do you think 8gb isn't enough? I strongly recommend you to read about how a smartphone memory works. Unused Ram can also have a hit on the battery life. Therefore as others suggested I wouldn't go for the OP 8Pro, don't even mention its nearly double the price of the poco. GL with your purchase.

I'm seeing 5-6gb ram usage on my F2 Pro. Still plenty to spare.

I only see 1 phone better than Poco F2 if you are willing to pay more, and it's the Oneplus 8 Pro, I prefer the Poco F2 Pro over Mi 10 and normal Oneplus 8.
So my recomendation is if you want pay more get the Oneplus 8 Pro not the normal version, if you want better price and this year phone Poco F2 Pro is the best one quality/price. And counting 2019 phones Realme X2 Pro or Oneplus 7T are amazing also.

Many thanks guys going for the F2Pro
Btw these arrived today from AliExpress
Hope they are good...

Nice one mate. I'm sure you'll enjoy this phone. Can't put mine down lol.

I was deciding between the exact same devices. The OnePlus 8 Pro and the Poco F2 Pro. Although I kind of see different pros and cons.
For myself I don't play games and would choose the lower res and lower refresh screen to get additional hours in battery.
I don't do a lot of photos, so can likely get by without OIS on the camera. The option for to have the headphone jack, pop up camera, infrared and longer battery was enough to make me go for the Poco F2 Pro.
I haven't received one yet, but ordered one, so I hope I haven't made a mistake. Still no custom ROMs for this phone, so hopefully there are some options soon.
I probably won't open the phone until there's some ROMs, if I can't get LineageOS for it, I'll probably sell it and go for the OnePlus 8 Pro.
OnePlus 8 Pro
Pros: 120Htz Screen, Wireless Charging, Water Proof, Camera
Cons: No headphone jack, front camera hole punch
Poco F2 Pro
Pros: Price, Battery life, headphone jack, pop up camera (for security reasons), InfraRed (old, but handy), full display with no cut out
Cons: No OIS on Camera, More limited with custom ROMs than OnePlus

birleytweet said:
I probably won't open the phone until there's some ROMs, if I can't get LineageOS for it, I'll probably sell it and go for the OnePlus 8 Pro.
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There's a 7 day cool down on bootloader unlock for this device so I'd recommend you do the unlock process when you first get it to start the timer. This won't unlock the phone unless you do the unlock process again after 7 days.
That way you can unlock and start modding whenever you are ready rather than waiting 7 days from the point you decide to start modding.

Does it worth it? (AMOLED, ROM Development...)

Hi,
I've been saving to get a Mi 9T pro for quite some time... and of course now it isn't available at a reasonable price, so my eyes are on a Poco F2 Pro (i live in Europe right now).
My only requirements would be:
mandatory:
- headphone jack (check)
- Super AMOLED without bloody hole (who would do that??) (can you confirm it is a super amoled screen like mi 9T pro and Mi 9 lite, not just amoled (like Mi 9T) please?) (check i guess)
slightly less important:
- stereo speakers (not checked, i live w/o it i guess! cause in that price range i can't find anything, specially with the 2 first requirements)
- microSD slot (ok i'll plug it more often then...)
and last but not least:
- good community regarding development, tweaks, custom roms and so on => will this one be checked one day ? What do you think ? I see sources are out but missing a lot of parts... are people gonna get some enthusiasm on that phone at one point ? (so, yeah, if somebody could tell me the future ^^ and the next lottery numbers while you're at it...)
So, well, maybe I'm too demanding, what do you guys think, and is there a way to be happy with stock MIUI (debloating?) to begin with ?
Sorry if all of that was already address, I take my chances asking my concern to the community before I buy anything as it is a big expense for me.
THANKS A LOT for your time and your help
Cheers !

I would suggest getting Mi9T pro/K20 Pro or better yet get One plus 7T pro. I have K30 Pro Zoom edition and K20 Pro.
To your points:
Both have headphone jack.
Both very nice screen. K30Pro/PocoF2 Pro has bigger screen. There are reports here that the poco F2 Pro may have yellow/green tint. Mine has perfect screen no issues
Stereo has K20Pro ... sort of, if u mod it otherwise no stereo for both phones
No SD Card slot for both.
Also both have USB 2.0 speed on USB C port. Speed is around 30 MB/s
I will bet poco F2 pro will not get development community as did K20 Pro.
I use on both phones Chinese MIUI with heavy debloatet script and magisk module. I have better experience this way than any other ROM (even miui eu)

Hesitating between the OnePlus Nord and the F2 Pro too, considering the F2 is vastly superior for less than 100 bucks more. If only I had some time to get back in the dev community... Some OmniROM on this things would be nice

XpLoDWilD said:
Hesitating between the OnePlus Nord and the F2 Pro too, considering the F2 is vastly superior for less than 100 bucks more. If only I had some time to get back in the dev community... Some OmniROM on this things would be nice
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OnePlus Nord seems nice, but:
slighty less processing power (still a lot)
LPDDR4X RAM vs LPDDR5 (still totally fine!!)
no cooling system
no LED (lol)
no jack
no IR (^^)
but:
maybe better screen (a bit smaller though)
probably better camera (OIS)
lighter weight (but no IP and plastic design)
so that could do it...
BUT.... has a f*** hole in the screen !
Let us know if you pick one
And may the time be with you one day to build some code
Cheers !

reliot said:
I would suggest getting Mi9T pro/K20 Pro or better yet get One plus 7T pro. I have K30 Pro Zoom edition and K20 Pro.
To your points:
Both have headphone jack.
Both very nice screen. K30Pro/PocoF2 Pro has bigger screen. There are reports here that the poco F2 Pro may have yellow/green tint. Mine has perfect screen no issues
Stereo has K20Pro ... sort of, if u mod it otherwise no stereo for both phones
No SD Card slot for both.
Also both have USB 2.0 speed on USB C port. Speed is around 30 MB/s
I will bet poco F2 pro will not get development community as did K20 Pro.
I use on both phones Chinese MIUI with heavy debloatet script and magisk module. I have better experience this way than any other ROM (even miui eu)
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How do you compare the screen of K20 Pro and F2 pro ?
Same same ?
One plus 7T pro seems nice, still expensive though, and no jack -p) but good development i guess...
Cheers !

LaMarMôt said:
OnePlus Nord seems nice, but:
slighty less processing power (still a lot)
LPDDR4X RAM vs LPDDR5 (still totally fine!!)
no cooling system
no LED (lol)
no jack
no IR (^^)
but:
maybe better screen (a bit smaller though)
probably better camera (OIS)
lighter weight (but no IP and plastic design)
so that could do it...
BUT.... has a f*** hole in the screen !
Let us know if you pick one
And may the time be with you one day to build some code
Cheers !
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What? No, the f2 has better screen. Well as long as you don't care about Refresh rate. But touch sampling is better 120 Vs 180 on the f2
Camera is better on the f2 even with ois

LaMarMôt said:
How do you compare the screen of K20 Pro and F2 pro ?
Same same ?
One plus 7T pro seems nice, still expensive though, and no jack -p) but good development i guess...
Cheers !
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I can not say for Poco F2 Pro/K30 Pro as I have the Zoom edition (different hardware) but the Zoom has slightly brighter screen than K20 Pro. I had for the short time Oneplus 7T pro. it had better color accuracy and 90 Hz
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reliot said:
I will bet poco F2 pro will not get development community as did K20 Pro.
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why? I think poco f2pro is a good cheap and balance phone.

reliot said:
I would suggest getting Mi9T pro/K20 Pro or better yet get One plus 7T pro. I have K30 Pro Zoom edition and K20 Pro.
To your points:
Both have headphone jack.
Both very nice screen. K30Pro/PocoF2 Pro has bigger screen. There are reports here that the poco F2 Pro may have yellow/green tint. Mine has perfect screen no issues
Stereo has K20Pro ... sort of, if u mod it otherwise no stereo for both phones
No SD Card slot for both.
Also both have USB 2.0 speed on USB C port. Speed is around 30 MB/s
I will bet poco F2 pro will not get development community as did K20 Pro.
I use on both phones Chinese MIUI with heavy debloatet script and magisk module. I have better experience this way than any other ROM (even miui eu)
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It will get bettter development community than K20 pro lol. Just wait for it to launch in India and you'll see official custom ROMs in just 4-5 weeks.

Suraj Pandey said:
It will get bettter development community than K20 pro lol. Just wait for it to launch in India and you'll see official custom ROMs in just 4-5 weeks.
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Do you know when the launch date would be in India ?
Cheers !

LaMarMôt said:
Do you know when the launch date would be in India ?
Cheers !
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13th August

dex2grigg said:
13th August
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Source for that release date?
Because I just read that India will not get the phone at all!

Amazing phone, but MIUI with zero custom rom development is a no-go for me.

I have the poco f2 pro and owned 2 mi9t pro before as well. The phone is not bad but not great. Have it over a month now, miui 12 was a nice improvement but I see some bugs since the update. The screen sometimes go dark and take a good few seconds to recover. Happened when using chrome or various other apps. I had to even reboot at one point because it didn't recover. I know a wipe could resolve the issue just too lazy to do it and I only see the above bug a few times.
Comparing to the mi9t pro it has much nicer features such as the harptic feedback is nicer. Camera and touch response is also better, not even mention the longer battery life. However due to the size and weight I did find the mi9t pro much more usable. I have small hand and for me does require 2 hands to operate cause I cannot reach much with one hand.
Custom rom does exist check xiaomi.eu but its very limited compare how the mi9t pro\k20 pro was. I'm not planning to mess around with roms just wanted a device which works, this doesn't really bothers me.
Is it worth it? Hmm the market is fludded with good devices, if you want a full screen display there isn't much option available, the cut out or teardrop style is more common then anything else. The answer is subjective but owning the device I may look around and chose a different one.

Since this phone will 100% sure get Android 11 , I think most logical way forward (from dev perspective) is wait for that release before doing any custom ROM. Doing it now with current release base (its buggy too) is probably waste of time.
This is not the first phone with the same situation happened before.

I own both mi9t pro 128gb and k30 pro 256gb (zoom edition) and I can certainly says it surely an upgrade especially when you do gaming often.
Im not sure about everybody else, but in my experience, mi9t pro do stutter in games from time to time which I suspect comes from thermal throttling. On the other hand, my k30 pro did not have such issue at all. Mind you, it was both on miui 12 latest stable rom.
Oh yes, plus the added benefit of getting UFS 3.1, LPDDR5, bigger battery, IR blaster, faster charging, bigger battery, latest chipset, 5G (future-proofing), and most importantly for me, the OIS on both telephoto and main camera lens enable me to take long exposure and night shot without those blurry image. 3x telephoto lens not just better in zooming but also double as macro lens with AF! I can zoom up to 30x and have a decent moon-shot, albeit not so great but still good enough. All in all, its well worth to be considered as an upgrade.
Before i forgot, yes the screen is definitely super amoled, which comes with good factory-calibration on "Standard" or "Original" mode. P3 and sRGB mode as preset are great option to have which mi9t pro really missing.

LordWurstbrot said:
Source for that release date?
Because I just read that India will not get the phone at all!
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Yup. Poco f2 pro won't launch in India. They'll launch it as K30 Pro. It is because of this Covid situation that launch has been delayed. Also Xiaomi India is trying to clear their existing stocks of K20 pro before launching K30 Pro

I am cosidering between the Google Pixel 4a (340€) vs the POCO F2 Pro (399€),
Which one do you guys think is the better choice?

wait for pixel 5 4a with 765 processor is uber trash

androideas said:
I am cosidering between the Google Pixel 4a (340€) vs the POCO F2 Pro (399€),
Which one do you guys think is the better choice?
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Now POCO F2 Pro is about 300,00€ in Italy. That is a so low price for these specs (Snapdragon 865), if there are two big lack:
1. no slot card at all and
2. no development due to the fact that the source code tree is partially hidden in order to block the development.
It seems like there's a collusion between the phone house to give a price to the possibility of development.
Actually google pixel it costs much more than the value of the money suggests for its specs.
Like "future development of the phone" must be paid by the costumers. That is my paranoia. :confuso:

Replace poco f2 camera with redmi k30 pro zoom camera

Hi
As the poco f2 and the redmi k30 pro zoom are basically the same phones
Can I replace the original camera with the ones from the k30 pro?
You can get the module with all cameras for 14€
I know it will void my warranty but I don't care
Technically I can open the device and replace the camera
But will it work? The main camera I am sure will work because it's the same sensor and you will gain OIS
But I am a little worried about the fact that the macro camera at the same time gets replaced with the zoom camera and I doubt the camera software can handle that?
Any ideas?

First you need to open the case like he does https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZWMxwcFZOc
If your idea will work, dunno. Try it if you want.

Yes I know how to open the device and replace the camera
But I wonder if it's useless to try or the change is pretty good that it might work

OIS is not added by updates or other similar things. It is added to the structure as a movable lens that prevents vibration. You cant add OIS, because poco f2 pro does not have a movable lens

hardziol said:
OIS is not added by updates or other similar things. It is added to the structure as a movable lens that prevents vibration. You cant add OIS, because poco f2 pro does not have a movable lens
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So if you buy a camera module with lens from K30 zoom that has OIS then Poco F2 Pro will have OIS.
Though I'm not sure if there has to be some sort of firmware 'flag' that activates OIS in camera apps. Only way to know is to try I guess.

The replacement camera module contains the ois parts of it as its the complete module but it includes all cameras Incl the zoom one
I am not worried about the main shooter this one will work because it is the same one just ois but I am worried about the zoom camera replacing the makro

Shefczenko said:
So if you buy a camera module with lens from K30 zoom that has OIS then Poco F2 Pro will have OIS.
Though I'm not sure if there has to be some sort of firmware 'flag' that activates OIS in camera apps. Only way to know is to try I guess.
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in theory should work, but in practice I do not know if it works

qvert said:
Hi
As the poco f2 and the redmi k30 pro zoom are basically the same phones
Can I replace the original camera with the ones from the k30 pro?
You can get the module with all cameras for 14€
I know it will void my warranty but I don't care
Technically I can open the device and replace the camera
But will it work? The main camera I am sure will work because it's the same sensor and you will gain OIS
But I am a little worried about the fact that the macro camera at the same time gets replaced with the zoom camera and I doubt the camera software can handle that?
Any ideas?
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i think it will work but you would need to rebrand your phone to k30 pro zoom for telephoto module properly work with stock system for that device

It will work, do it.

if so, does it need any software changes to recognize the new camera configuration?

For 14 bucks just do it

mpadeti said:
if so, does it need any software changes to recognize the new camera configuration?
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I don t think so. Usually that kind of information like OIS, EIS support and so on are written into the low level microfirmware of the device (camera in this case). Then is the OS and app that read those information and use it.

jeky82 said:
I don t think so. Usually that kind of information like OIS, EIS support and so on are written into the low level microfirmware of the device (camera in this case). Then is the OS and app that read those information and use it.
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even if the type of camera is changed? because there would be a Telephoto instead of Macro

Go for it, if all the connections of the board and cameras are the same. It should work.

I think you'll maybe need to flash the k30 pro's firmware but I'm not sure about that

not workin like that..

Sorry if the question sounds sassy, ​​but why not buy the version you want, rather than bother with a hack that obviously won't work ?

coyot352 said:
Sorry if the question sounds sassy, ​​but why not buy the version you want, rather than bother with a hack that obviously won't work ?
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Because the K30 Pro Zoom isn't sold outside China and has missing international 4G bands?

popoyaya said:
Because the K30 Pro Zoom isn't sold outside China and has missing international 4G bands?
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Life is full of compromises, sometimes we do with a 4g tape less because the device is really cool and cheap
Or you choose a device available in your country with the required functions, there are options that require you to put the price or buy a real high-end product sometimes
You can't have everything for 300 € with a Poco product, I love mine but you have to be realistic

coyot352 said:
Life is full of compromises, sometimes we do with a 4g tape less because the device is really cool and cheap
Or you choose a device available in your country with the required functions, there are options that require you to put the price or buy a real high-end product sometimes
You can't have everything for 300 € with a Poco product, I love mine but you have to be realistic
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What has any of this got to do with replacing the camera module for a better one??

Poco f2 pro and Xiaomi Note 10 cameras

hi xiaomiers i have searched a lot these last 3 days for a compassion between the two phones' cameras (i know note 10 is better) i would appreciate TONS if someone of you that has both phones uploads one or two photos (same ofc ) for me to compare one 108 mp with the note 10 and one 64 mp with the poco f2 pro , like i said i know the note 10 has a better camera but i want to know how much better it is i mean if i can be happy with the f2 pro camera because i love how the screen of the f2 pro looks with out the notch ,plz and thank you

Easy
Photo: Mi Note
Games: Poco

ChargedPikachu said:
hi xiaomiers i have searched a lot these last 3 days for a compassion between the two phones' cameras (i know note 10 is better) i would appreciate TONS if someone of you that has both phones uploads one or two photos (same ofc ) for me to compare one 108 mp with the note 10 and one 64 mp with the poco f2 pro , like i said i know the note 10 has a better camera but i want to know how much better it is i mean if i can be happy with the f2 pro camera because i love how the screen of the f2 pro looks with out the notch ,plz and thank you
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I would not justife the price difference....
Poco is now at 300e....and the camera difference is not noticeable at all... The power for 300e you get is simply unbeatable atm. The macro on poco is absolutely stunning...
Point and shoot poco is on par with flagships....i mean it..
See bellow
First pics little snail from regular distance...barely able to see it... Second is point an shoot macro...
No pro mode....no adjustments...and so goes for main camera

Just basic main camera..absolutely stunning..

Poco F2 Pro Display to K30 Zoom Display

Hey! First of all this is my first post on XDA.
I tried multiple time overclocking the Panel of the Poco F2 Pro and ended up with bad low light grey colors.
So Ive wondered if it would be possible to instead just change the Panel to the K30 Zoom one because these Phones are almost indentical.
Could please someone help me and say if its possible or remind me that this is a stupid Idea and im stupid too?
Thanks for reading!

mxcion said:
Hey! First of all this is my first post on XDA.
I tried multiple time overclocking the Panel of the Poco F2 Pro and ended up with bad low light grey colors.
So Ive wondered if it would be possible to instead just change the Panel to the K30 Zoom one because these Phones are almost indentical.
Could please someone help me and say if its possible or remind me that this is a stupid Idea and im stupid too?
Thanks for reading!
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AFAIK MIUI rom in lmi does not support OC panels or the panel from ULTRA (so you cannot achieve 120hz refresh rate even with a modded kernel).
Besides the hw compatibility (there is a big question mark on that) you must use an AOSP rom and possibly a kernel that enables this feature.