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[Q] Custom KK quick-settings / tiles without root?

Just got my N5 yesterday and I love pretty much everything about it. One tiny thing I miss coming from CM 10.2 on my old phone, is the ability to customize the "tiles" in the notification curtain. You know, when you do a 2-finger pulldown and it shows tiles to toggle wifi, airplane mode, bluetooth, etc... what do you call that anyway? Is there an "official" name for it?
Anyway, a few of my old favorites are missing, and there's no way I can find to change what's there. I'd especially like a "torch" (flashlight) toggle -- I used to use that all the time. I know there are some apps that can install a toggle bar at the top of the notification curtain in older Android versions, but it seems silly to have 2 separate groups of toggles, one on each "side" of the curtain, just because the one that's already there can't be customized, and I don't know how well those play with KitKat anyway.

Ghengis042 said:
Just got my N5 yesterday and I love pretty much everything about it. One tiny thing I miss coming from CM 10.2 on my old phone, is the ability to customize the "tiles" in the notification curtain. You know, when you do a 2-finger pulldown and it shows tiles to toggle wifi, airplane mode, bluetooth, etc... what do you call that anyway? Is there an "official" name for it?
Anyway, a few of my old favorites are missing, and there's no way I can find to change what's there. I'd especially like a "torch" (flashlight) toggle -- I used to use that all the time. I know there are some apps that can install a toggle bar at the top of the notification curtain in older Android versions, but it seems silly to have 2 separate groups of toggles, one on each "side" of the curtain, just because the one that's already there can't be customized, and I don't know how well those play with KitKat anyway.
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You'd need root. Why can't you root?
root + Xposed Framework + GravityBox Xposed module

rootSU said:
You'd need root. Why can't you root?
root + Xposed Framework + GravityBox Xposed module
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I just spent a few hours setting up the phone, and it would be nice not to have to do all that over again when I unlock the bootloader (and thus lose all my data...). I guess it's only one evening's setup time, so not *such* a big deal, but the other thing is that I want to keep stock firmware / OTA updates if at all possible.
As fro Xposed, I have some concerns:
* I switched to ART just after getting the phone, because I read it improves battery life (Xposed has no plans to support ART in the near future)
* I've heard that it can have stability issues -- the reason I want OTA / stock is so I can spend as little time futzing with the phone as possible and just *use* it
* Xposed opens up some security issues, IMHO
I think if it comes down to root + xposed or just using a "plain" widget, I'll probably go with the widget.

Ghengis042 said:
* I switched to ART just after getting the phone, because I read it improves battery life (Xposed has no plans to support ART in the near future)
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Correct. For me, the experimental ART feature is not worth losing Xposed for.
Ghengis042 said:
* I've heard that it can have stability issues -- the reason I want OTA / stock is so I can spend as little time futzing with the phone as possible and just *use* it
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No stability issues here
Ghengis042 said:
* Xposed opens up some security issues, IMHO
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Based on what information?

You didn't address the setup-time issue -- that's one of the big ones for me. I usually have at least 40 apps installed (and yes, I actually use them!) and reconfiguring them is time consuming. I *could* futz with Titanium Backup or similar to automate some of that re-setup process, but I'd rather just avoid it in the first place if possible.
rootSU said:
No stability issues here
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Good to hear, at some point I might still investigate -- it's going to come down to how much customization / tweaking I really *need*.
rootSU said:
(Security issues...) Based on what information?
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I guess it's about as "dangerous" as rooting -- basically, Xposed gives modules carte blanche to do absolutely anything on your phone, and since the modules aren't distributed through a controlled / centralized store (like Google Play) and as far as I can tell aren't (always) open-source, I don't have any way to be sure they're not doing something malicious. Of course there's a bunch of other attack vectors, but installing a framework that touches every corner of the device, that then runs scripts / mods that I downloaded from some forum somewhere (no offense, guys!) on a phone that holds sensitive personal data... it just worries me a bit, y'know?

rootSU said:
You'd need root. Why can't you root?
root + Xposed Framework + GravityBox Xposed module
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What he said.

Ghengis042 said:
You didn't address the setup-time issue -- that's one of the big ones for me. I usually have at least 40 apps installed (and yes, I actually use them!) and reconfiguring them is time consuming. I *could* futz with Titanium Backup or similar to automate some of that re-setup process, but I'd rather just avoid it in the first place if possible.
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I didn't think it needed addressing? Yes you'll lose everything as we all did. You can backup with Helium to an extent. Maybe even it backs up everything. I have 300+ apps
Ghengis042 said:
I guess it's about as "dangerous" as rooting -- basically, Xposed gives modules carte blanche to do absolutely anything on your phone, and since the modules aren't distributed through a controlled / centralized store (like Google Play) and as far as I can tell aren't (always) open-source, I don't have any way to be sure they're not doing something malicious. Of course there's a bunch of other attack vectors, but installing a framework that touches every corner of the device, that then runs scripts / mods that I downloaded from some forum somewhere (no offense, guys!) on a phone that holds sensitive personal data... it just worries me a bit, y'know?
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Xposed modules are still apk's and list permissions as you install them. The same sense applies as installing any apk. Read the permissions, consider the source and either install it or not. The framework doesn't touch every corner of the device. It runs everything in isolation (which is the whole point of it) but yeah that's not really relevant.
All the xposed apps are distributed via XDA, google Play or teh Xposed repo http://repo.xposed.info/module-overview - if something malicious was going on, the module wouldn't exist.
Anyway I'm not here to convince you to install it. There aren't any apps that do it though.

Hi,
Maybe not all will be functional without root but take a look at this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.j4velin.notificationToggle or https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.painless.pc.
Try these apps to see what you can/can't do with the quick settings without root.
But like it has been said, rooting your device is the best way to have (almost) all what you want.

viking37 said:
Hi,
Maybe not all will be functional without root but take a look at this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.j4velin.notificationToggle or https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.painless.pc.
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Do you know if installing a settings bar on the curtain like this will interfere with... what's the term? Extended notifications? Some apps (Pocket Casts is the first that comes to mind) will show media controls (play/pause/skip) in the notification tray, but only if they're the first entry in the list -- if anything comes above them, you can't use the controls. Is that a problem with these apps?

Re,
I'm sorry but I don't know (not tested and I'm rooted)... The best is to test by yourself and see. I just provide you a link to try to help...

Ghengis042 said:
...so I can spend as little time futzing with the phone as possible and just *use* it...
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Well that doesn't sound like much fun at all.

Ghengis042 said:
You didn't address the setup-time issue -- that's one of the big ones for me. I usually have at least 40 apps installed (and yes, I actually use them!) and reconfiguring them is time consuming. I *could* futz with Titanium Backup or similar to automate some of that re-setup process, but I'd rather just avoid it in the first place if possible.
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Yes, TB Backup's fail when I backup 400+ apps and want to restore them altogether. Who would click Next and Install for 400+ times!!! For your point, ADB backup's are slow they really help for Unrooted devices and Guaranteeing safe apk+app-data for sure...

[Q] Newly Rooted User With Questions.

First off, great forum, tons of awesome information.
I apologize in advance as I am sure these questions have been answered a million times but being new to a Rooted device, I'm looking for a little clarity and guidence.
I have the AT&T variant of the LG G3, awesome awesome device.
I rooted the device with Stump Root (doesn't get any simplier then that)
I then installed "Xposed Installer", "Titanium Backup", "SuperSu", and "G3 Tweak Box".
Questions,
Xposed
1) Seems pretty straight forward, is there anything as a newbie I should know, avoid, lookout for?
Titanium Back Up
1) Well, it all looks like chinese to me. First off, I have backed up all my apps, but when I check "Backup/Restore" I still see certain apps as "No Backup Yet". Why?
2) Also, how often should I backup the apps? Is once enough?
3) After backing up bloatware, is it then safe to remove and delete?
4) Schedules, should I be enabling either option?
5) Main Menu, whats the most important actions to take here?
SuperSu
1) Seems fairly straight forward, what are "logs" and do I need to pay attention to them?
2) Settings, is there any options I need to change, take advantage of? Anything I should avoid tampering with?
Misc Questions
1) When system updates come out, will this cause me to lose Root access, if so why and how do I avoid that?
2) Is there any prevenitive measures that I need to take to protect my device against any crashes, bricking, or any other general screw ups a newbie might cause with Root access?
3) Also, how do I not destroy my device while learning to take advantage of Root access?
4) In addition to what I have already installed, is there any other must have apps for the Rooted user?
I appreciate any & all help, thanks alot in advance!

I'll answer what I can, as best I can.
Vic098 said:
Xposed
1) Seems pretty straight forward, is there anything as a newbie I should know, avoid, lookout for?
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Make sure you have BusyBox installed as well.
It's best to change one setting at a time. It's tedious, especially if you have to reboot after changes, but if something goes awry, it's much easier to track down the conflict or bug, especially if you're using multiple modules.
Titanium Back Up
1) Well, it all looks like chinese to me. First off, I have backed up all my apps, but when I check "Backup/Restore" I still see certain apps as "No Backup Yet". Why?
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There's a definite learning curve with TB. I'm not sure why some apps might not back up. It could be because they're core components of the OS and are write protected.
2.) Also, how often should I backup the apps? Is once enough?
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When talking about batch backups, "enough" is at your discretion. No harm in doing them periodically, especially if you install a bunch of new apps. Backing up individual apps is good to do before updating them, in case you decide you preferred the older version. Or a game you don't want lose progress in or revert to an old "save".
3) After backing up bloatware, is it then safe to remove and delete?
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Depends on the bloat. Some apps by AT&T or LG might seem unnecessary or unwanted, but actually are necessary and can cause crashes or force closes ("unfortunately XXXXX process has stopped"). Always back them up first, and remove them one at a time. It's better to freeze them first, then delete after testing. Personally, I don't delete bloat, just freeze it.
4) Schedules, should I be enabling either option?
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Both, if you want to schedule period backups rather than just doing them youself. Again, your discretion .
5) Main Menu, whats the most important actions to take here?
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Batch actions and Preferences (where to store them) are all you really should be messing with now. At least until you learn more.
SuperSu
1) Seems fairly straight forward, what are "logs" and do I need to pay attention to them?
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The logs keep track of what was granted SU access and when. Not really necessary.
2) Settings, is there any options I need to change, take advantage of? Anything I should avoid tampering with?
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PIN code is your choice. If you're the only one that ever uses your phone, it's not really necessary, but if if you let others use it frequently(for games, or to browse or log into Facebook), you might want to use a PIN so they don't simply hit "grant" whenever SuperSU requests rights. I use "prompt" as the default action, so I know what needs to access the system. For example, some apps that don't require root (like Clean Master) have additional functions if you are rooted, and this might not be clear in the description in Play. That way you know, and you won't accidentally screw something up. Also, malicious apps that have no business with root access can be identified and blocked.
Misc Questions
1) When system updates come out, will this cause me to lose Root access, if so why and how do I avoid that?
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You can sometimes (usually?) lose root access after an update, but it's usually possibly simply to re-root with the same method. If not, it's best to wait to do the update until others can confirm/deny. SuperSU has a "survival mode" that can try to keep root during an update, but again, it's best to wait for confirmation by others.
2) Is there any prevenitive measures that I need to take to protect my device against any crashes, bricking, or any other general screw ups a newbie might cause with Root access?
3) Also, how do I not destroy my device while learning to take advantage of Root access?
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Read, ask, and learn. It's easy to grow confident and think you're more clever than you really are and really screw something up (I know from experience). If you look at the first couple pages of general Q&A/Help forums, you'll see lots of people who did stupid stuff and now have bootloops and crashes and bricks. Do lots of searches, here, on google, and youtube. You can often find guides for what you're wanting to do.
4) In addition to what I have already installed, is there any other must have apps for the Rooted user?
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AdAway or other ad blocker. Not only does it block ads in your browsers, it blocks Google ads in free apps. Apart from being cleaner and more convenient, since ads don't get loaded, pages load faster and you consume less data.
BetterBatteryStats gives you much more info on what's draining your battery than the stock Android function.
Some sort of root browser/explorer is essential. You can use it to completely delete folders/data that got left behind even after an app is deleted (which can sometimes cure Google Play Store errors), among other things.
I personally like ROM Toolbox Pro. It doesn't really do anything special, just packs a ton of utilities that you can get elsewhere into a single app.
SQLite editor is necessary to do some things, but you'd better make sure you know what you're doing before doing anything with it.
WiFi Tether Router might be able to bypass AT&T's tether app. Changing some settings with SQLite might be necessary. You'd have to research this for your device.
Those are the root apps I use, as well as Xposed and assorted modules to do theming or other functionality tweaks. Xposed is quite powerful, and you should familiarize yourself with what the multitude of different modules can do. The possibilities are seemingly endless, as developers come up with no mods every day to do new things that nobody else has done yet (or ported other mods to work with other devices).
I appreciate any & all help, thanks alot in advance!
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Good luck and have fun!

Planterz said:
I'll answer what I can, as best I can.
Make sure you have BusyBox installed as well.
It's best to change one setting at a time. It's tedious, especially if you have to reboot after changes, but if something goes awry, it's much easier to track down the conflict or bug, especially if you're using multiple modules.
There's a definite learning curve with TB. I'm not sure why some apps might not back up. It could be because they're core components of the OS and are write protected.
When talking about batch backups, "enough" is at your discretion. No harm in doing them periodically, especially if you install a bunch of new apps. Backing up individual apps is good to do before updating them, in case you decide you preferred the older version. Or a game you don't want lose progress in or revert to an old "save".
Depends on the bloat. Some apps by AT&T or LG might seem unnecessary or unwanted, but actually are necessary and can cause crashes or force closes ("unfortunately XXXXX process has stopped"). Always back them up first, and remove them one at a time. It's better to freeze them first, then delete after testing. Personally, I don't delete bloat, just freeze it.
Both, if you want to schedule period backups rather than just doing them youself. Again, your discretion .
Batch actions and Preferences (where to store them) are all you really should be messing with now. At least until you learn more.
The logs keep track of what was granted SU access and when. Not really necessary.
PIN code is your choice. If you're the only one that ever uses your phone, it's not really necessary, but if if you let others use it frequently(for games, or to browse or log into Facebook), you might want to use a PIN so they don't simply hit "grant" whenever SuperSU requests rights. I use "prompt" as the default action, so I know what needs to access the system. For example, some apps that don't require root (like Clean Master) have additional functions if you are rooted, and this might not be clear in the description in Play. That way you know, and you won't accidentally screw something up. Also, malicious apps that have no business with root access can be identified and blocked.
You can sometimes (usually?) lose root access after an update, but it's usually possibly simply to re-root with the same method. If not, it's best to wait to do the update until others can confirm/deny. SuperSU has a "survival mode" that can try to keep root during an update, but again, it's best to wait for confirmation by others.
Read, ask, and learn. It's easy to grow confident and think you're more clever than you really are and really screw something up (I know from experience). If you look at the first couple pages of general Q&A/Help forums, you'll see lots of people who did stupid stuff and now have bootloops and crashes and bricks. Do lots of searches, here, on google, and youtube. You can often find guides for what you're wanting to do.
AdAway or other ad blocker. Not only does it block ads in your browsers, it blocks Google ads in free apps. Apart from being cleaner and more convenient, since ads don't get loaded, pages load faster and you consume less data.
BetterBatteryStats gives you much more info on what's draining your battery than the stock Android function.
Some sort of root browser/explorer is essential. You can use it to completely delete folders/data that got left behind even after an app is deleted (which can sometimes cure Google Play Store errors), among other things.
I personally like ROM Toolbox Pro. It doesn't really do anything special, just packs a ton of utilities that you can get elsewhere into a single app.
SQLite editor is necessary to do some things, but you'd better make sure you know what you're doing before doing anything with it.
WiFi Tether Router might be able to bypass AT&T's tether app. Changing some settings with SQLite might be necessary. You'd have to research this for your device.
Those are the root apps I use, as well as Xposed and assorted modules to do theming or other functionality tweaks. Xposed is quite powerful, and you should familiarize yourself with what the multitude of different modules can do. The possibilities are seemingly endless, as developers come up with no mods every day to do new things that nobody else has done yet (or ported other mods to work with other devices).
Good luck and have fun!
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Thanks for the detailed response. Just a follow up, when googling AdAway, I see some long threads and what I think are different versions, is there a link, or a place that I can find the latest (and safe??) version to download?
Again, appreciate the feedback.

Vic098 said:
Thanks for the detailed response. Just a follow up, when googling AdAway, I see some long threads and what I think are different versions, is there a link, or a place that I can find the latest (and safe??) version to download?
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http://d-h.st/BZs
If you haven't done so already, you'll have to go into your settings and check the box to allow app installation from unknown sources. Then just go to that link on your device, download the .apk, then install. Go to a site with a heavy amount of ads like phonearena.com (Verizon ads up the wazoo) and see how long it takes to load. Then reboot, and load the app. It'll update sources, and it'll be good to go. Go back to that website and marvel at how quickly it loads without the ads.

Vic098 said:
Thanks for the detailed response. Just a follow up, when googling AdAway, I see some long threads and what I think are different versions, is there a link, or a place that I can find the latest (and safe??) version to download?
Again, appreciate the feedback.
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Is this a Xposed Module or some APK off the google market? Because if it's an Xposed Mod then links are direct.

Radigen said:
Is this a Xposed Module or some APK off the google market? Because if it's an Xposed Mod then links are direct.
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Gotchya.
Planterz said:
If you haven't done so already, you'll have to go into your settings and check the box to allow app installation from unknown sources. Then just go to that link on your device, download the .apk, then install.
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The link downloads a file called mobogenie. Is that correct?

Vic098 said:
The link downloads a file called mobogenie. Is that correct?
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No. I don't know what that is, and I can't recreate whatever you did to get that. Whatever it is, don't install it.The file to download will match the name in the description. Make sure you're not clicking an ad (oh, the irony).
Try this link instead. https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdid=org.adaway or try downloading on your computer to Dropbox or Drive or whatever cloud storage you use, or just download it to your computer, plug in your phone, copy it to your phone's storage, and run it from there.
Radigen said:
Is this a Xposed Module or some APK off the google market? Because if it's an Xposed Mod then links are direct.
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Neither. It's not an Xposed module, just a regular app, but it's not available from the Google Play Store because they don't want you blocking your ads, so you have to side load it.

Planterz said:
No. I don't know what that is, and I can't recreate whatever you did to get that. Whatever it is, don't install it.The file to download will match the name in the description. Make sure you're not clicking an ad (oh, the irony).
Try this link instead. https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdid=org.adaway or try downloading on your computer to Dropbox or Drive or whatever cloud storage you use, or just download it to your computer, plug in your phone, copy it to your phone's storage, and run it from there.
Neither. It's not an Xposed module, just a regular app, but it's not available from the Google Play Store because they don't want you blocking your ads, so you have to side load it.
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Oh alright, thanks then, good thing we're all developers here.

Petition to ask ZTE to unlock the bootloader of the ZTE Blade S6

So we bought our lovely Blade S6, bang the bootloader is locked!
What does that mean?
No root. No xposed. No custom recovery. No custom ROMs.
You bought a car, and you want to drive it offroad. It's up to you. The manufacture can't force you to drive on a paved road. They may tell you that the warranty is void if you drive offroad, but still it's YOUR decision to decide where you drive.
That's the whole idea behind locked bootloaders!
If you agree, please sign the petition on this link:
https://www.change.org/p/zte-usa-zt...e-zte-blade-s6-bootloader?recruiter=262352991
Cheers.

Signed

luigioottoo said:
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Signed also

signed

Signed

signed

Thanks guys, 40 supporters on day 1 is great.
I'd like to add to my previous post the following.
Root is major feature on Android. Here's what it allows you to do:
1- Adblock
2- Call Recording
3- Nandroid Backups (full device backup)
4- Remove unwanted system apps
5- Xposed (this is a world of features on it's own!)
Xposed alone will give u almost full control of your device in terms of theme-ing and features:
1- Youtube Adblock
2- Control of statusbar icons and positions etc...
3- Activate on-screen navigation menu (like Mi-Pop app, but this is a legit/fixed navigation menu)
4- Shortcut for killing foreground apps
5- Theme or change the style of recent apps screen
6- Change what the back/menu button do. Personally I like the menu button to act as a recent apps button (and long click for menu).
7-
8-
It will never end...
So this is why it's very important for us to get the bootloader unlocked !
Cheers.

I used the time to post on facebook to point them to the petitions:
https://www.change.org/p/zte-usa-and...zte-zmax-phone
http://forum.xda-developers.com/zte-...oader-t3062981
We should combine the force here instead of make it per phone why not speak in generell to open and unlock the bootloader for all the devices?
It makes no sense to devide since it affects all of us didn't it?

Signed?

aouni_tahech said:
So we bought our lovely Blade S6, bang the bootloader is locked!
What does that mean?
No root. No xposed. No custom recovery. No custom ROMs.
You bought a car, and you want to drive it offroad. It's up to you. The manufacture can't force you to drive on a paved road. They may tell you that the warranty is void if you drive offroad, but still it's YOUR decision to decide where you drive.
That's the whole idea behind locked bootloaders!
If you agree, please sign the petition on this link:
https://www.change.org/p/zte-usa-zt...e-zte-blade-s6-bootloader?recruiter=262352991
Cheers.
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have anyone tried this !! : http://www.unlockphonetool.com/unlock-zte-imei-code-generator-software/

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What can US-non-rooters do with their phone?

My question is simple, since we don't have options to root on Snapdragon/US version phones, what extras can we do? For example, to remove bloat, a hotspot mod, volume booster, or anything of that nature. I feel like all I have is a bigger screen phone and that's it.

sideActions
Here is a simple lightweight "hack" if you will. I used this a lot with my Note 8, as it allowed remapping the Bixby button that was a wasted button otherwise.
XDA Article: https://www.xda-developers.com/remap-galaxy-note-10-s-pen-button-sideactions/
Google Play: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jamworks.sidekeybuttonremap

JerseyFF said:
Here is a simple lightweight "hack" if you will. I used this a lot with my Note 8, as it allowed remapping the Bixby button that was a wasted button otherwise.
XDA Article: https://www.xda-developers.com/remap-galaxy-note-10-s-pen-button-sideactions/
Google Play: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jamworks.sidekeybuttonremap
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Too bad Side Actions can't do stuff with the screen off like BxActions could.
You can customize your phone through Nova, I paid for the prime version myself. But honestly root doesn't really do much these days. My s8 was the Exynos and all I did with root was cheat pokemon go with smali mock locations. Besides being able to backup data and a custom rom, I found no use for it anymore. In the past it was helpful to make your phone run better, but android in general has become well optimized, Samsung has gotten better by far with touchwiz, or now "One UI", and phones all around are way more powerful. Root really isn't needed anymore unless you're just really into deep customization or development of sorts.

juanfernandez77 said:
My question is simple, since we don't have options to root on Snapdragon/US version phones, what extras can we do? For example, to remove bloat, a hotspot mod, volume booster, or anything of that nature. I feel like all I have is a bigger screen phone and that's it.
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You can remove bloat via adb commands or use an app, if you're going to use android adb is something you need to know.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ccswe.appmanager.samsung&hl=en
You can theme with substratum.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/substratum/official-starting-substratum-andromeda-t3798316
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/substratum/official-starting-substratum-andromeda-t3798316
If you want root you shouldn't have bought a snapdragon Note 10!

ggrant3876 said:
You can remove bloat via adb commands or use an app, if you're going to use android adb is something you need to know.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ccswe.appmanager.samsung&hl=en
You can theme with substratum.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/substratum/official-starting-substratum-andromeda-t3798316
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/substratum/official-starting-substratum-andromeda-t3798316
If you want root you shouldn't have bought a snapdragon Note 10!
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I got the phone free via Sprint which is why I have it. Thanks for the links sir.

Do you use a rooted device as your daily driver?

I use my rooted phone as my daily driver and I was wondering if anyone else did as well.

Never.
That's what the nth phone is for.

NEVER

Always and without any exception.

Oswald Boelcke said:
Always and without any exception.
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Me too, it makes the device way better. You have more options, customization, better performance in some cases. You can control everything, you can increase battery service life with AccA.

its must because most phone are filled with trash but the price is still high

Guan Yu said:
its must because most phone are filled with trash but the price is still high
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True, I removed like 40-50 bloatware apps from my phone. It made it so much faster and battery life increased.

ATBG said:
True, I removed like 40-50 bloatware apps from my phone. It made it so much faster and battery life increased.
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In the thread topic you used "Do you use a rooted device as your daily driver?"
Using root to remove bloodware, and using a rooted device, are two different things.
In the first case, the action is a one-time one, after which root can be removed, as long as one knows how to do it effectively without leaving a backdoor.
In the second case, root remains for a long time.
1. For many models, root is not possible at all.
2. In many cases, root is not needed to disable bloodware.
3. In many cases, some of the blootware can simply be uninstalled.

ze7zez said:
In the thread topic you used "Do you use a rooted device as your daily driver?"
Using root to remove bloodware, and using a rooted device, are two different things.
In the first case, the action is a one-time one, after which root can be removed, as long as one knows how to do it effectively without leaving a backdoor.
In the second case, root remains for a long time.
1. For many models, root is not possible at all.
2. In many cases, root is not needed to disable bloodware.
3. In many cases, some of the blootware can simply be uninstalled.
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Root removes it easier, I been daily driving my rooted phone for 2 months now, I use root for a lot of things. I daily drive a rooted phone to do these things:
I rooted because I don't want Google telling me what to do, how to use, what not to do on my phone. I bought my phone, so I should be able to do what I want. I rooted so I can customize, tweak, add features, ad-blocking, lots more.
Here are the apps and modules I use on my rooted phone to make it look nice and have longer battery life, better security.
I have FontManager module to change fonts.
I use Debloater module to systemlessly debloat and De-Google my phone.
I use AccA module to increase my battery lifespan with AccA.
I use Kernel Auditor to underclock my CPU for better battery life. I set the governor to powersave.
I use AFWall+ to have a Linux firewall for better security.
I use substratum to change my theme and accent color. My theme is Liv Dark.
I can add new features and functionality that wasn't there before.
I use AdAway to block ads system-wide, I also use AdAway to block malicious ads and ViPER4Android to make my speakers louder.
I use Permission Ruler to turn off app permissions when screen is off to improve battery life.
I use Termux to have the terminal on Android to make it more Linux-like.
Lots more stuff.
I use Energized module to block malware, lots more.
I use Tasker to do user-defined actions.
I use EdXposed Manager to have more control and customization.
My favorite module for EdXposed is GravityBox.
My rooted phone is my daily driver and it runs really great, fast with 8-9 hours of battery life.

ze7zez said:
In the thread topic you used "Do you use a rooted device as your daily driver?"
Using root to remove bloodware, and using a rooted device, are two different things.
In the first case, the action is a one-time one, after which root can be removed, as long as one knows how to do it effectively without leaving a backdoor.
In the second case, root remains for a long time.
1. For many models, root is not possible at all.
2. In many cases, root is not needed to disable bloodware.
3. In many cases, some of the blootware can simply be uninstalled.
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it isnt easy like you said . On some phone you cant disable app with adb . Even with rooted device , for some app you cant disable it completely without magisk cuz its re-enabled on next reboot

Guan Yu said:
it isnt easy like you said . On some phone you cant disable app with adb . Even with rooted device , for some app you cant disable it completely without magisk cuz its re-enabled on next reboot
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You are right, that has happened to me when I didn't root. I unrooted one time and all the apps came back, which is why I root. I root to keep bloatware away. Even with ADB and non-root, the app is still in the system. You only removed it from the user.

I have seen videos of people saying rooting isn't worth it in 2022.
I was wondering if anyone thought the same.
Does anyone root in 2022?

I don't do it.
If, then only temporarily.

if you dont trust google or any manufacturer, yes it is still worth it. i dont root it because i dont mind sharing my data with those companies

Fytdyh said:
if you dont trust google or any manufacturer, yes it is still worth it. i dont root it because i dont mind sharing my data with those companies
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I don't trust Google with my data and info, why would you want to share that?

xXx yYy said:
I don't do it.
If, then only temporarily.
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Why don't you do it? You want Google looking at all of your data, controlling what you can and can not do?

i just figured out today....root acces aren't powerfull anymore as in the past
since A 10 system partition is read only...so u can't change something on it....like new bootannimation or termal config to manage the hot snapdragon 888

DanielMode said:
i just figured out today....root acces aren't powerfull anymore as in the past
since A 10 system partition is read only...so u can't change something on it....like new bootannimation or termal config to manage the hot snapdragon 888
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You can change the boot animation, I did.

on what device.?
on Sony Xperia it's not possible anymore.

DanielMode said:
on what device.?
on Sony Xperia it's not possible anymore.
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Use Boot Animations For Superusers. Then use this too:
Boot-Animations for Android 10.​It should work for 11 too.