Best Backup app for CMW nandroid or titanium?
um what? Nandroids are done with cwm and apps are backed up with titanium bakcup what else is there to say there are really no alternatives
mrevankyle said:
um what? Nandroids are done with cwm and apps are backed up with titanium bakcup what else is there to say there are really no alternatives
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wht i wanted to ask is if it is better to do a nandroid back up or titanium back up. i mixed them up
mrevankyle said:
um what? Nandroids are done with cwm and apps are backed up with titanium bakcup what else is there to say there are really no alternatives
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nandroids back up apps, kernels and roms while titanium only backs up apps correct?
catfishbilly said:
nandroids back up apps, kernels and roms while titanium only backs up apps correct?
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Titanium backup apps and apps' data.
catfishbilly said:
wht i wanted to ask is if it is better to do a nandroid back up or titanium back up. i mixed them up
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they are two different things. nandroid backup saves the nand, titanium backups app data.
ok guys, thanks for clearing it up
nandroid does not back up the kernel iirc
Hi guys,
unfortunately I had to revert back to one of my backups I made as a custom kernel was causing problems. So, I tried to restore a Nandroid backup I made, but that didn't restore my apps and had to go through the standard Google setup (like a had a brand new phone).
I tried again wiping wipe cache, Dalvik cache etc. before restore, but still no restore even though I didn't encounter any problems restoring. I checked the nandroid directory and the files it backed up were these (total size approx. 2 GB)
boot.emmc.win
boot.emmc.win.md5
cache.ext4.win
cache.ext4.win.md5
data.ext4.win000
data.ext4.win000.md5
data.ext4.win001
data.ext4.win001.md5
recovery.emmc.win
recovery.emmc.win.md5
recovery.log
system.ext4.win
system.ext4.win.md5
I'm currently on 4.4.2 with stock kernel (3.4.0.gadb2201), Build no. KOT49H
Any suggestions what the problem could be?
formeriphoneuser said:
Hi guys,
unfortunately I had to revert back to one of my backups I made as a custom kernel was causing problems. So, I tried to restore a Nandroid backup I made, but that didn't restore my apps and had to go through the standard Google setup (like a had a brand new phone).
I tried again wiping wipe cache, Dalvik cache etc. before restore, but still no restore even though I didn't encounter any problems restoring. I checked the nandroid directory and the files it backed up were these (total size approx. 2 GB)
boot.emmc.win
boot.emmc.win.md5
cache.ext4.win
cache.ext4.win.md5
data.ext4.win000
data.ext4.win000.md5
data.ext4.win001
data.ext4.win001.md5
recovery.emmc.win
recovery.emmc.win.md5
recovery.log
system.ext4.win
system.ext4.win.md5
I'm currently on 4.4.2 with stock kernel (3.4.0.gadb2201), Build no. KOT49H
Any suggestions what the problem could be?
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Highlighted above in red would be the files that have your apps etc.
Run a restore again, and ONLY restore data, see if that helps out.
It should have restored everything unless you just restored boot or system.
btw, since you were just restoring because of a custom kernel, you didnt have to restore anything. all you had to do is flash the stock kernel(or any other kernel) witbout wiping anything, or just reflash your rom without wiping anything. you wouldnt have lost a thing nor have this headache. but, you chose to do it the wrong way.
simms22 said:
btw, since you were just restoring because of a custom kernel, you didnt have to restore anything. all you had to do is flash the stock kernel(or any other kernel) witbout wiping anything, or just reflash your rom without wiping anything. you wouldnt have lost a thing nor have this headache. but, you chose to do it the wrong way.
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Flashing the stock kernel did work, but after flashing the OTA and rooting caused problems. So I had no choice : (
orangekid said:
Highlighted above in red would be the files that have your apps etc.
Run a restore again, and ONLY restore data, see if that helps out.
It should have restored everything unless you just restored boot or system.
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Nope, that didn't work either :crying: The files you highlighted are big files, which means it did back something up.
formeriphoneuser said:
Nope, that didn't work either :crying: The files you highlighted are big files, which means it did back something up.
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sounds like your nandroid file got corrupted
formeriphoneuser said:
Nope, that didn't work either :crying: The files you highlighted are big files, which means it did back something up.
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Those are your data files. It looks like it backed it up fine.
From all accounts, it should be restoring your ROM 100% as you left it. I really don't get why it wouldn't be doing it with the apps.
jd1639 said:
sounds like your nandroid file got corrupted
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you would think so, but he's got MD5 files. How is it accepting an MD5 and still be corrupt?
orangekid said:
you would think so, but he's got MD5 files. How is it accepting an MD5 and still be corrupt?
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Good point if it's checking the md5
orangekid said:
Those are your data files. It looks like it backed it up fine.
From all accounts, it should be restoring your ROM 100% as you left it. I really don't get why it wouldn't be doing it with the apps.
you would think so, but he's got MD5 files. How is it accepting an MD5 and still be corrupt?
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Yeah, I even activated the MD5 verification in TWRP and I get no errors during the restoring process...I could try an older nandroid backup to see if that makes any difference.
I'm glad I don't just rely on nandroid backups (even though I never restored one).
formeriphoneuser said:
Yeah, I even activated the MD5 verification in TWRP and I get no errors during the restoring process...I could try an older nandroid backup to see if that makes any difference.
I'm glad I don't just rely on nandroid backups (even though I never restored one).
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I always do mybackup root to save my apps / data as well as nandroid.
Yeah try restoring an older one.
Also try reflashing TWRP
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orangekid said:
I always do mybackup root to save my apps / data as well as nandroid.
Yeah try restoring an older one.
Also try reflashing TWRP
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Reflashed TWRP and tried again. Same issue. Although the older nandroid took forever and after 45 min. I just shut off the phone as it was going nowhere (status didn't move for that period).
All this makes no sense whatsoever...
formeriphoneuser said:
Reflashed TWRP and tried again. Same issue. Although the older nandroid took forever and after 45 min. I just shut off the phone as it was going nowhere (status didn't move for that period).
All this makes no sense whatsoever...
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Were the nandroids made on twrp 2.6.3.4 or an earlier version?
jd1639 said:
Were the nandroids made on twrp 2.6.3.4 or an earlier version?
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Actuatelly I used this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.h3r3t1c.onnandbup
formeriphoneuser said:
Actuatelly I used this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.h3r3t1c.onnandbup
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Now it's making some sense a nandroid isn't necessarily the same depending on how it's created. For instance a nandroid created on cwm is not compatible with twrp and visa versa
As a plan B, you could try Titanium Backup which is capable of extracting apps & app data from nandroid backups. I think the feature requires TB Pro. Takes a while for it to unpack and parse everything, but it could be your best shot at getting a reasonably good restoration.
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cmstlist said:
As a plan B, you could try Titanium Backup which is capable of extracting apps & app data from nandroid backups. I think the feature requires TB Pro. Takes a while for it to unpack and parse everything, but it could be your best shot at getting a reasonably good restoration.
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Thx for all the help guys! Truely appreciate the guidance.
What I didn't know is the nandroid backups I did were compressed. So I decompressed these, but after trying to restore these in TWRP no luck. I can however open and browse these in the nandroid backup manager or TI backup. I'm currently trying to restore the nandroid apps via nandroid backup manager. I'll let you guys know how that turns out.
I'm not sure what the difference between the TI app backup I have is and the current nandroid app+app data restore option would be. Isn't this essential the same thing the TI restore does with the apps?
And for the future what nandroid backup works reliably and would you recommend? I pretty paranoid about making backups, but I seem to have lost quite some confidence in nandroid backup, as it has failed me This has been a royal PITA....
orangekid said:
I always do mybackup root to save my apps / data as well as nandroid.
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Also do you find Mybackup better than TI Pro root?
formeriphoneuser said:
Thx for all the help guys! Truely appreciate the guidance.
What I didn't know is the nandroid backups I did were compressed. So I decompressed these, but after trying to restore these in TWRP no luck. I can however open and browse these in the nandroid backup manager or TI backup. I'm currently trying to restore the nandroid apps via nandroid backup manager. I'll let you guys know how that turns out.
I'm not sure what the difference between the TI app backup I have is and the current nandroid app+app data restore option would be. Isn't this essential the same thing the TI restore does with the apps?
And for the future what nandroid backup works reliably and would you recommend? I pretty paranoid about making backups, but I seem to have lost quite some confidence in nandroid backup, as it has failed me This has been a royal PITA....
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I have always used a custom recovery for backups and have never had a problem. I use twrp, but that's just my preference. Cwm is good too
formeriphoneuser said:
I'm not sure what the difference between the TI app backup I have is and the current nandroid app+app data restore option would be. Isn't this essential the same thing the TI restore does with the apps?
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If you didn't already have a Titanium backup, extracting from the nandroid is a good last resort to have.
The main difference between extracting with Titanium and a full nandroid restore - the latter is very sensitive to small differences in backup format, and can only be restored all at once. In general you shouldn't expect to successfully restore a nandroid in recovery if you created it using a different recovery or an app. If you create with TWRP, it should restore properly with TWRP.
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I always use Titanium Backup before I flash or backup anything. Then I restore my apps with no problems. It is a bit unusual for your apps not to be in your nandroid backup since it's basically like taking a picture of your phone and storing everything on it. I've never had this problem with TWRP. Hopefully you can figure it out...
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Did anybody get Titanium Backup to work?
My NX616J is on V2.24 with root , TWRP, and open_gapps.
It works well, except that I cannot get Titanium Backup to work.
It always hangs, after I start a backup or a restore?
Backup worked for me
Nubia2452 said:
Backup worked for me
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I reinstalled
Titanium Backup
Titanium Backup Add-on
Titanium Backup PRO
and gave all permissions explicitly.
Titanium Backup opens properly,
it sees all apps, but it crashes as soon
as a start a backup.
If I use a backup from another device,
it sees all data, but it cannot install anything
from the backup.
What am I overlooking, since you say it works for you?
apps
Any way to do this? There were a lot of Nand apps in the past but they've all mysteriously vanished. Titanium backup still has a restore from nand/twrp backup option, but it's pro only.
What do you exactly need to backup?
R1ffR4ff said:
What do you exactly need to backup?
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It wasn't necessarily backup, but just recovery. I'm recovering some apps and their data from a bootlooping TWRP backup. I know it is possible to an extent because I was manually able to move my Google Authenticator data to a fresh install, just wanted to do it with the rest of my apps.
tensuyu said:
It wasn't necessarily backup, but just recovery. I'm recovering some apps and their data from a bootlooping TWRP backup. I know it is possible to an extent because I was manually able to move my Google Authenticator data to a fresh install, just wanted to do it with the rest of my apps.
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I see.Sorry I can't help as I've never had to do it :/
I can open up my Nandroid backups on this win10 PC but wouldn't know how to extract the needed apps/data
Can I restore nandroid backup from pc
What method you used to create the NANDROID backup ?
jwoegerbauer said:
What method you used to create the NANDROID backup ?
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Twrp
A backup created by TWRP can only get restored by TWRP.