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Best Backup app for CMW nandroid or titanium?

um what? Nandroids are done with cwm and apps are backed up with titanium bakcup what else is there to say there are really no alternatives

mrevankyle said:
um what? Nandroids are done with cwm and apps are backed up with titanium bakcup what else is there to say there are really no alternatives
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wht i wanted to ask is if it is better to do a nandroid back up or titanium back up. i mixed them up

mrevankyle said:
um what? Nandroids are done with cwm and apps are backed up with titanium bakcup what else is there to say there are really no alternatives
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nandroids back up apps, kernels and roms while titanium only backs up apps correct?

catfishbilly said:
nandroids back up apps, kernels and roms while titanium only backs up apps correct?
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Titanium backup apps and apps' data.

catfishbilly said:
wht i wanted to ask is if it is better to do a nandroid back up or titanium back up. i mixed them up
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they are two different things. nandroid backup saves the nand, titanium backups app data.

ok guys, thanks for clearing it up

nandroid does not back up the kernel iirc

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When I restore my apps with titanium backup how do I get market to recognize them as installed so I can get automatic app updates?
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jawknee530 said:
When I restore my apps with titanium backup how do I get market to recognize them as installed so I can get automatic app updates?
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hmmm, i think it does automagically. I have restored my apps 2-3 times and I did not have to do anything special.
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Are you using the free version?
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BobbyDukes707 said:
Are you using the free version?
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No I am not.
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Thank worked perfectly.
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Rather than making a new thread I'll post in here.
I was flashing some roms and backed up my apps at the wrong time in turn losing a lot of saved points in games and app settings. Can I just go back into one of my recent nandroid backups and copy the titanium backup files somewhere to replace the ones I don't want in my current rom? If so which ones?
The files your after are in the Titanium backup folder.
prettyboy85712 said:
The files your after are in the Titanium backup folder.
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Lol this is obvious but which files do I need? There are several options in the nandroid folder like system, recovery, cache etc but their all img files? Again, I only have the files in my nandroid backup. My Titanium is setup to replace old files when a new backup is performed..
Thanks for any help in advance..
92drls said:
Lol this is obvious but which files do I need? There are several options in the nandroid folder like system, recovery, cache etc but their all img files? Again, I only have the files in my nandroid backup. My Titanium is setup to replace old files when a new backup is performed..
Thanks for any help in advance..
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TB saves its stuff on the SD card, which is untouched by the usual Data/Cache/Dalvik wipes for a new ROM. Your most recent backups should be present no matter what.
LordButtersI said:
TB saves its stuff on the SD card, which is untouched by the usual Data/Cache/Dalvik wipes for a new ROM. Your most recent backups should be present no matter what.
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OK lemme give some more info to help. I just got finished flashing my GB rom to replace my FR with all my settings widgets etc.. Once I had all the apps re-downloaded and thought I was ready to use titanium backup to restore all of my app data I accidentally did a backup instead, in turn REPLACING all of my original settings, saved games etc with just new games and all default bs..
So now, my ONLY option is to restore a backup I had previously when all my settings and games were where I liked them and then do another titanium backup to replace the new stuff. THEN, I have to restore my current GB nandroid to get back to my current ROM and then use titanium to restore my old stuff. The issue is finding which part of the titanium file I need from my Froyo backup to replace my GB backup.. Does that make sense lol?
I think I may figure it out but its trial and error.. I'll report back when and if I get it, just kinda sucks trying to do all this with root explorer and flashing everything over and over while at work..
If I'm doing this wrong please tell me but I am not seeing the easy way out in all of this..
You've got it right, do it just like that. Backing up / restoring Nandroids doesn't affect the SD card, but if you're paranoid you can unmount it. Restore nandroid, backup with TB, restore other nandroid, restore TB.
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Backup app

Hi all,
What is a good backup app to use that will back up and restore all apps and their data. I haven't had luck with Titanium, it would restore the apps but not the data.
Thanks,
Ho'okani
Hookani said:
Hi all,
What is a good backup app to use that will back up and restore all apps and their data. I haven't had luck with Titanium, it would restore the apps but not the data.
Thanks,
Ho'okani
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I use Titanium Backup Pro all the time, never had a problem with it not restoring any apps/data. You can give MyBackup Pro a go...
MyBackup Pro works better for me. With titanium after flashing a rom it doesn't seem to be able to find previous back ups.
I have had to run fix permissions after restoring with mybackup pro, but at least it does find backup's done on previous rom installations so I am able to restore everything.

Titanium Backups all I need?

So I tried making a nandroid backup today and it said it failed to make a backup image of my data. So I have a titanium backup as well of all my apps, so if I have that do I necessarily need a nandroid backup as well?
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brokenAndroid93 said:
So I tried making a nandroid backup today and it said it failed to make a backup image of my data. So I have a titanium backup as well of all my apps, so if I have that do I necessarily need a nandroid backup as well?
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It's your choice
nandroid backup is a backup of all data in internal storage so it includes the rom but if you only backup with titanium backup, it will only backup your apps and data
if you want to try other rom you can use nandroid backup to restore to previous rom if you like the previous rom than the newer
and if you want to change rom and doesn't think to change to previous rom you don't need to do nandroid back you can use titanium backup
and don't forget to have enough space in sdcard, nandroid backup use about 300+ MB storage

Tablet Will Not Boot

I have been happily running CROMI-X 4.6.9 for some time now but yesterday I found that my tablet had turned off. Turning it back on again was fine but it seemed to hang at the boot animation and get really hot.
I tried wiping Dalvik and Cache but that didn't help, so I made a TWRP backup before wiping Data. The tablet booted fine now, so I tried to restore Data from the Nandroid using Titanium and although all my apps are back their Data isn't.
How can I get the data for each app back?
hshah said:
I have been happily running CROMI-X 4.6.9 for some time now but yesterday I found that my tablet had turned off. Turning it back on again was fine but it seemed to hang at the boot animation and get really hot.
I tried wiping Dalvik and Cache but that didn't help, so I made a TWRP backup before wiping Data. The tablet booted fine now, so I tried to restore Data from the Nandroid using Titanium and although all my apps are back their Data isn't.
How can I get the data for each app back?
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Sound like you restored apps but not data? Do it again in titanium but make sure you restore user data and apps.
sbdags said:
Sound like you restored apps but not data? Do it again in titanium but make sure you restore user data and apps.
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I did do both... even tried it twice to make sure I wasn't being stupid.
When Titanium failed, I tried to restore apps and data from the nandroid using Nandroid Manager, which produced exactly the same results.
hshah said:
I did do both... even tried it twice to make sure I wasn't being stupid.
When Titanium failed, I tried to restore apps and data from the nandroid using Nandroid Manager, which produced exactly the same results.
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Did you backup before or after you wiped?
The only thing I can think of is you used to have your backups on external and it is now looking on internal? Or you have scheduling turned on in tibu and you've overwritten your backups?
sbdags said:
Did you backup before or after you wiped?
The only thing I can think of is you used to have your backups on external and it is now looking on internal? Or you have scheduling turned on in tibu and you've overwritten your backups?
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Sorry, I'm not talking about Titanium backups. I used Titanium to extract the apps and data from the nandroid backup.
hshah said:
Sorry, I'm not talking about Titanium backups. I used Titanium to extract the apps and data from the nandroid backup.
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Ah ok, that'll probably be your issue then. Presumably Tibu has failed to understand or find the nandroid user data.

[Q] HELP needed: Nandroid Backup NOT restoring apps (TWRP 2.6.3.4)

Hi guys,
unfortunately I had to revert back to one of my backups I made as a custom kernel was causing problems. So, I tried to restore a Nandroid backup I made, but that didn't restore my apps and had to go through the standard Google setup (like a had a brand new phone).
I tried again wiping wipe cache, Dalvik cache etc. before restore, but still no restore even though I didn't encounter any problems restoring. I checked the nandroid directory and the files it backed up were these (total size approx. 2 GB)
boot.emmc.win
boot.emmc.win.md5
cache.ext4.win
cache.ext4.win.md5
data.ext4.win000
data.ext4.win000.md5
data.ext4.win001
data.ext4.win001.md5
recovery.emmc.win
recovery.emmc.win.md5
recovery.log
system.ext4.win
system.ext4.win.md5
I'm currently on 4.4.2 with stock kernel (3.4.0.gadb2201), Build no. KOT49H
Any suggestions what the problem could be?
formeriphoneuser said:
Hi guys,
unfortunately I had to revert back to one of my backups I made as a custom kernel was causing problems. So, I tried to restore a Nandroid backup I made, but that didn't restore my apps and had to go through the standard Google setup (like a had a brand new phone).
I tried again wiping wipe cache, Dalvik cache etc. before restore, but still no restore even though I didn't encounter any problems restoring. I checked the nandroid directory and the files it backed up were these (total size approx. 2 GB)
boot.emmc.win
boot.emmc.win.md5
cache.ext4.win
cache.ext4.win.md5
data.ext4.win000
data.ext4.win000.md5
data.ext4.win001
data.ext4.win001.md5
recovery.emmc.win
recovery.emmc.win.md5
recovery.log
system.ext4.win
system.ext4.win.md5
I'm currently on 4.4.2 with stock kernel (3.4.0.gadb2201), Build no. KOT49H
Any suggestions what the problem could be?
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Highlighted above in red would be the files that have your apps etc.
Run a restore again, and ONLY restore data, see if that helps out.
It should have restored everything unless you just restored boot or system.
btw, since you were just restoring because of a custom kernel, you didnt have to restore anything. all you had to do is flash the stock kernel(or any other kernel) witbout wiping anything, or just reflash your rom without wiping anything. you wouldnt have lost a thing nor have this headache. but, you chose to do it the wrong way.
simms22 said:
btw, since you were just restoring because of a custom kernel, you didnt have to restore anything. all you had to do is flash the stock kernel(or any other kernel) witbout wiping anything, or just reflash your rom without wiping anything. you wouldnt have lost a thing nor have this headache. but, you chose to do it the wrong way.
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Flashing the stock kernel did work, but after flashing the OTA and rooting caused problems. So I had no choice : (
orangekid said:
Highlighted above in red would be the files that have your apps etc.
Run a restore again, and ONLY restore data, see if that helps out.
It should have restored everything unless you just restored boot or system.
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Nope, that didn't work either :crying: The files you highlighted are big files, which means it did back something up.
formeriphoneuser said:
Nope, that didn't work either :crying: The files you highlighted are big files, which means it did back something up.
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sounds like your nandroid file got corrupted
formeriphoneuser said:
Nope, that didn't work either :crying: The files you highlighted are big files, which means it did back something up.
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Those are your data files. It looks like it backed it up fine.
From all accounts, it should be restoring your ROM 100% as you left it. I really don't get why it wouldn't be doing it with the apps.
jd1639 said:
sounds like your nandroid file got corrupted
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you would think so, but he's got MD5 files. How is it accepting an MD5 and still be corrupt?
orangekid said:
you would think so, but he's got MD5 files. How is it accepting an MD5 and still be corrupt?
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Good point if it's checking the md5
orangekid said:
Those are your data files. It looks like it backed it up fine.
From all accounts, it should be restoring your ROM 100% as you left it. I really don't get why it wouldn't be doing it with the apps.
you would think so, but he's got MD5 files. How is it accepting an MD5 and still be corrupt?
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Yeah, I even activated the MD5 verification in TWRP and I get no errors during the restoring process...I could try an older nandroid backup to see if that makes any difference.
I'm glad I don't just rely on nandroid backups (even though I never restored one).
formeriphoneuser said:
Yeah, I even activated the MD5 verification in TWRP and I get no errors during the restoring process...I could try an older nandroid backup to see if that makes any difference.
I'm glad I don't just rely on nandroid backups (even though I never restored one).
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I always do mybackup root to save my apps / data as well as nandroid.
Yeah try restoring an older one.
Also try reflashing TWRP
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orangekid said:
I always do mybackup root to save my apps / data as well as nandroid.
Yeah try restoring an older one.
Also try reflashing TWRP
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Reflashed TWRP and tried again. Same issue. Although the older nandroid took forever and after 45 min. I just shut off the phone as it was going nowhere (status didn't move for that period).
All this makes no sense whatsoever...
formeriphoneuser said:
Reflashed TWRP and tried again. Same issue. Although the older nandroid took forever and after 45 min. I just shut off the phone as it was going nowhere (status didn't move for that period).
All this makes no sense whatsoever...
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Were the nandroids made on twrp 2.6.3.4 or an earlier version?
jd1639 said:
Were the nandroids made on twrp 2.6.3.4 or an earlier version?
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Actuatelly I used this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.h3r3t1c.onnandbup
formeriphoneuser said:
Actuatelly I used this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.h3r3t1c.onnandbup
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Now it's making some sense a nandroid isn't necessarily the same depending on how it's created. For instance a nandroid created on cwm is not compatible with twrp and visa versa
As a plan B, you could try Titanium Backup which is capable of extracting apps & app data from nandroid backups. I think the feature requires TB Pro. Takes a while for it to unpack and parse everything, but it could be your best shot at getting a reasonably good restoration.
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cmstlist said:
As a plan B, you could try Titanium Backup which is capable of extracting apps & app data from nandroid backups. I think the feature requires TB Pro. Takes a while for it to unpack and parse everything, but it could be your best shot at getting a reasonably good restoration.
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Thx for all the help guys! Truely appreciate the guidance.
What I didn't know is the nandroid backups I did were compressed. So I decompressed these, but after trying to restore these in TWRP no luck. I can however open and browse these in the nandroid backup manager or TI backup. I'm currently trying to restore the nandroid apps via nandroid backup manager. I'll let you guys know how that turns out.
I'm not sure what the difference between the TI app backup I have is and the current nandroid app+app data restore option would be. Isn't this essential the same thing the TI restore does with the apps?
And for the future what nandroid backup works reliably and would you recommend? I pretty paranoid about making backups, but I seem to have lost quite some confidence in nandroid backup, as it has failed me This has been a royal PITA....
orangekid said:
I always do mybackup root to save my apps / data as well as nandroid.
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Also do you find Mybackup better than TI Pro root?
formeriphoneuser said:
Thx for all the help guys! Truely appreciate the guidance.
What I didn't know is the nandroid backups I did were compressed. So I decompressed these, but after trying to restore these in TWRP no luck. I can however open and browse these in the nandroid backup manager or TI backup. I'm currently trying to restore the nandroid apps via nandroid backup manager. I'll let you guys know how that turns out.
I'm not sure what the difference between the TI app backup I have is and the current nandroid app+app data restore option would be. Isn't this essential the same thing the TI restore does with the apps?
And for the future what nandroid backup works reliably and would you recommend? I pretty paranoid about making backups, but I seem to have lost quite some confidence in nandroid backup, as it has failed me This has been a royal PITA....
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I have always used a custom recovery for backups and have never had a problem. I use twrp, but that's just my preference. Cwm is good too
formeriphoneuser said:
I'm not sure what the difference between the TI app backup I have is and the current nandroid app+app data restore option would be. Isn't this essential the same thing the TI restore does with the apps?
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If you didn't already have a Titanium backup, extracting from the nandroid is a good last resort to have.
The main difference between extracting with Titanium and a full nandroid restore - the latter is very sensitive to small differences in backup format, and can only be restored all at once. In general you shouldn't expect to successfully restore a nandroid in recovery if you created it using a different recovery or an app. If you create with TWRP, it should restore properly with TWRP.
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I always use Titanium Backup before I flash or backup anything. Then I restore my apps with no problems. It is a bit unusual for your apps not to be in your nandroid backup since it's basically like taking a picture of your phone and storing everything on it. I've never had this problem with TWRP. Hopefully you can figure it out...
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