5G working just fine on unrooted T-Mobile NL - Google Pixel 5 Guides, News, & Discussion

So, something interesting happened to me. Yesterday I was checking if VoLTE was enabled on my phone, or if it could be enabled. Then I also saw the network selection setting, which said 5G preferred. So I figured, I might as well turn on 5G at my service provider. It costs 2euros per month, so might as well try it for once. Can always disable it again.
Yesterday however, it didn't do much so i figured I would have to root my Pixel 5 to enable 5G, which was fine. Today however, when I went out of the house, all of a sudden I see that my phone has connected to 5G! I originally planned to root my Pixel 5, just to get 5G, but it's just working out of the box, whithout root.
My provider is T-Mobile NL (the Netherlands) and because the Pixel 5 was never originally sold in The Netherlands, 5G should not be working right? Is there anyone who can confirm that 5G is in fact working, or is this just some sort of fluke?
I've attached a screenshot of what appears to be 5G working.

That's great to hear
Unfortunately in my country
We had 5g and Volte enabled in first android 12 beta
In the second beta it was removed

No any changes in Bulgaria.
All providers have 5g and VoLTE, but on Pixel 5 it is not working.

5g in Netherlands is supported:
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VOLTE On TMobile & ATT?

will volte work out the box for TMobile ? They won't activate phones on their network after a while if they don't support VOLTE.... Or any plans to update it in the near future. When will this go on sale in North America?
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I am currently on T-mo, it doesn't do VoLTE currently, I know its possible via root and changing parameters. ALSO they just enabled VoLTE for their ROG phone 3 via an update so I will assume they will probably do the same for the ZF7, if not I will have to root it.
I asked an asus rep about sale in NA and they didn't have an answer from marketing team, so I bought mine on eBay
I'm beginning to think they will sell in in america especially if they enable volte for TMobile like they did the rog 3. I'm waiting to see if they enable volte on the 6 and the 7.
And then there's the OnePlus 8T coming in going to weigh my optione
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https://twitter.com/MishaalRahman/status/1311888502188109824?s=19
This guy apparently has VoLTE already on his phone, unsure how though.
Will this work on att in the states? Also which model if so?
ATT will ONLY work upto 3g. You will see an H on top the signal bar which indicates a Enhanced 3g speed also know as HSPA speed connection. I have tried 2 new sim cards. I have tried several APN's I have tried all updates and a reset. No 4G and no 5G on ATT. Unless someone can tell me something new, this phone will not FULLY work on ATT. Text works. Calls work. Internet is sort of hit and miss with decent signal but again rather slow.
T Mobile will ONLY work upto 4g. No Volte although it seems to have the capability of Volte it cant not work with Tmobile Volte because it seems the cell bands are not compatible. Text work. Internet works rather fast, Good solid signal however no 5G and no Volte due to incompatible cell bands.
I did research on this subject and found that the ATT cell bands for everything including 5G do seem to be compatible with the 7 pro but again, it does not FULLY work oddly
I also did research on Tmobile cell bands and the bands for 5G are not even close to being compatible. Volte is also non compatible. 4g is compatible and works..
THIS IS MY OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE TODAY AS I PURCHASED A SIM FROM EACH PROVIDER ( THIS IS A DUAL SIM PHONE) AND PLACED THEM BOTH IN THE PHONE.. I DID EXTENSIVE RESEARCH>>>
IF ANYONE CAN GET THE PHONE TO DO 4G or 5G ID APPRECIATE THAT INFO>>
ASUS NEEDS TO DO AN UPDAT FAST BEFORE PEOPLE START TO RETURN THIS DEVICE. THIS AGE IS ALL ABOUT 5 G.. THIS PHONE IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH USA. I DO NOT SEE HOW AN UPDATE WILL FIX THE PROBLEM SINCE THE PHONE IS ONLY PHYSICALLY CABLE OF A SPECIFIC SET OF BANDS WHICH ARE NOT NOT NOT THE SAME AS USA BANDS

T-Mobile US

Anyone using the Poco F2 Pro on T-Mobile in the US?
I am. Reception is no different than my T-mobile OP 7pro. The F2pro also don't have tmobile 5g bands.
I tried to reply on Reddit to your question, but guess it didnt show due to low post count. I'm using a Xiaomi Mi 10 Global in the USA and I have VoLTE enabled over a Tmobile MVNO. Wifi calling does not really work properly, at least with the provided IMS settings. As stated above, 5G will NOT work in the USA due to Xiaomi missing necessary USA 5G bands; and 4G LTE may be a hit or miss depending on your area. As long as you're not getting the phone for 5G, it's an excellent purchase! It's not going to be necessary to have a 5G enabled phone for many years anyways, 4G is really fast enough. Hope this helps
mookiexl said:
I am. Reception is no different than my T-mobile OP 7pro. The F2pro also don't have tmobile 5g bands.
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Are you getting voLTE on T-Mobile? If so, did you have to use the dialer code to enable it?
xda-jimjongs said:
I tried to reply on Reddit to your question, but guess it didnt show due to low post count. I'm using a Xiaomi Mi 10 Global in the USA and I have VoLTE enabled over a Tmobile MVNO. Wifi calling does not really work properly, at least with the provided IMS settings. As stated above, 5G will NOT work in the USA due to Xiaomi missing necessary USA 5G bands; and 4G LTE may be a hit or miss depending on your area. As long as you're not getting the phone for 5G, it's an excellent purchase! It's not going to be necessary to have a 5G enabled phone for many years anyways, 4G is really fast enough. Hope this helps
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Thanks for the info. I currently have a Mi 9 and have voLTE on T-Mobile and Fi (I did have to use the dialer code). I was just wondering if it's different for the F2 considering it lacks band 12 that the Mi 9 has. Looks like the Mi 10 global has the same bands as the F2, and you're getting voLTE, so I should be good. I also had a Mi A2 in the past, which had bands 2 and 4, which was fine, but voLTE wouldn't work, even with the dialer code. So calls defaulted to 3G, and I would constantly miss calls because it wouldn't ring. I just want to make 100% sure I can get voLTE with the F2 before buying.
Ulver said:
Are you getting voLTE on T-Mobile? If so, did you have to use the dialer code to enable it?
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Yes I'm getting voLTE and voWifi. I used the dialer code but the funny thing is to enable both I actually had to disable them. Even though after the code I get a prompt that the they're disable they are actually enabled.
Ulver said:
Thanks for the info. I currently have a Mi 9 and have voLTE on T-Mobile and Fi (I did have to use the dialer code). I was just wondering if it's different for the F2 considering it lacks band 12 that the Mi 9 has. Looks like the Mi 10 global has the same bands as the F2, and you're getting voLTE, so I should be good. I also had a Mi A2 in the past, which had bands 2 and 4, which was fine, but voLTE wouldn't work, even with the dialer code. So calls defaulted to 3G, and I would constantly miss calls because it wouldn't ring. I just want to make 100% sure I can get voLTE with the F2 before buying.
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No problem. I had Google Fi on my Pixel, then got the SIM to use for the Xiaomi Mi 10 Global and everything worked, but I just ended up going with another cheaper MVNO for Tmobile. The only complaint I have is generally I receive like 1-2 bars of reception in my house, when I go about 2 miles out it will jump up to 4+ bars. So when you receive your F2 Pro after setting up the APN settings, ensure in "preferred network type" it is 5G and not LTE! It will obviously not connect with 5G and default back to 4G LTE, but I had a random bug when setting it manually to 4G without voLTE, my phone calls would cut out at exactly 8minutes on the dot, NO Idea why that would happen, just giving you a warning lol. You don't need to use the dialer code by the way, you can set the "Use VoLTE" in the Mobile Network Settings and you will see a VoLTE button ontop. Have fun with your future F2, it's a great purchase .

New Note 20 Ultra N986U1 / No 5G

Picked up the unlocked version and activate with Verizon 5G sim here in Honolulu HI. Verizon coverage map states my area and pretty much the entire island is covered for 5G nationwide.
I have full LTE+ showing on my phone but after tshoot with Verizon for the last few hours and driving around a couple miles..my indicator has not changed at all to 5G.
Am i interpreting the coverage map wrong when it says all of the island is on 5G nationwide, meaning to me, i should see the 5G network on my phone?
Since i unboxed this device yesterday, it only pulled down one update and nothing new is showing as far as software updates.
Powered off the device a few times along with a network reset and still no 5G..
So far I've found the 5G feature to be the most overhyped, most under developed feature I've seen that was this hyped up in a long while. For the most part at the moment, i find it that unless you're standing on a block containing a 5mm 5G cell tower, 5G as of right now is pretty sparse and mostly useless.
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liquidraven said:
Picked up the unlocked version and activate with Verizon 5G sim here in Honolulu HI. Verizon coverage map states my area and pretty much the entire island is covered for 5G nationwide.
I have full LTE+ showing on my phone but after tshoot with Verizon for the last few hours and driving around a couple miles..my indicator has not changed at all to 5G.
Am i interpreting the coverage map wrong when it says all of the island is on 5G nationwide, meaning to me, i should see the 5G network on my phone?
Since i unboxed this device yesterday, it only pulled down one update and nothing new is showing as far as software updates.
Powered off the device a few times along with a network reset and still no 5G..
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Only the Verizon branded phones have gotten the update to enable the sub6 5g. The unlocked phones have not been updated for it.
liquidraven said:
Picked up the unlocked version and activate with Verizon 5G sim here in Honolulu HI. Verizon coverage map states my area and pretty much the entire island is covered for 5G nationwide.
I have full LTE+ showing on my phone but after tshoot with Verizon for the last few hours and driving around a couple miles..my indicator has not changed at all to 5G.
Am i interpreting the coverage map wrong when it says all of the island is on 5G nationwide, meaning to me, i should see the 5G network on my phone?
Since i unboxed this device yesterday, it only pulled down one update and nothing new is showing as far as software updates.
Powered off the device a few times along with a network reset and still no 5G..
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What you can do is use the *#272*<imei number>#
Choose the att csc and choose the option to only change the network code.
I tried this and got 5g for 1.1 sec. What exactly does this do?
You can also enable bands and DSS for verizon nationwide coverage through the service mode menus. I have a n20 ultra with U1 firmware on verizon csc with 5G working.
mellojosh said:
You can also enable bands and DSS for verizon nationwide coverage through the service mode menus. I have a n20 ultra with U1 firmware on verizon csc with 5G working.
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Where under service mode do you enabled bands and DSS please? Is this while the network code is switched to ATT?
GDHAMTON7 said:
What you can do is use the *#272*<imei number>#
Choose the att csc and choose the option to only change the network code.
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Thanks, I did this and was able to get 5G to show. I did see some connectivity issues after doing this with things like apps reaching out to their servers and what not. Oddly, speed test gave me lower speed results than on LTE for some reason..
liquidraven said:
Thanks, I did this and was able to get 5G to show. I did see some connectivity issues after doing this with things like apps reaching out to their servers and what not. Oddly, speed test gave me lower speed results than on LTE for some reason..
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Yeah that's expected unfortunately. Some users see higher and some see lower
liquidraven said:
Where under service mode do you enabled bands and DSS please? Is this while the network code is switched to ATT?
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I attached screenshots of the menus I changed to enable 5G. The DSS menu enables 5G DSS, the LTE band menu enables all the LTE bands and the NR prune menu enables all the 5G bands. I would restore the VZW csc before making any changes. Changing the csc resets any service mode changes made manually. It will also work under any of the csc's selected, but then other things like wifi calling and visual voice-mail are configured for that carrier and don't work right. Also, carrier aggregation combos for lte and 5g produce slower data speeds if you have sales and network codes mismatched to the SIM thats being used.
How did you get to that menu
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How did you get to that menu
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@GDHAMTON7 I posted a guide since I got a bunch of requests about this.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...de-service-mode-csc-guide-enable-lte-t4182293
mellojosh said:
@GDHAMTON7 I posted a guide since I got a bunch of requests about this.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...de-service-mode-csc-guide-enable-lte-t4182293
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That worked like a charm... Gahhhh feels like a clog has been removed from my phone's data connection. #lifesaver
One ui 3 beta build enables 5g for Verizon if anyone wants to take that route. Looks like someone figured out how to enable it through google phone though [emoji106]
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Was anyone able to enable n78 5G band ?

Question AT&T 5g and unlocked Z flip 3 5g

Has anyone here ordered an unlocked Z flip 3 from 5g directly from Samsung and currently using it on AT&T in the US? I am trying to confirm that the phone will be able to access AT&T's 5g network. I've seen conflicting info out there. I don't want to buy it if it won't get 5g.
Works fine on my wifes flip 3, and also for the record on my fold 3.
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Works fine on my wifes flip 3, and also for the record on my fold 3.
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Thanks for the info because I prefer the unlocked version over the one with the carrier garbage on it
Hopefully your 5g is better than Verizon's. I get significantly better speeds on 4g. The most I've seen on a 5g speed test (and ive done many from many locations) is 7Mbps and I'm in an excellent coverage area for Verizon... although when it comes to 5g you can't tell where coverage is because the map combines it with 4g.
Verizon also combines (I'm probably saying this wrong) multiple 4g data streams together and calls it 5g and from my experience it's terrible.
I actually asked Verizon if there was a sim card I could get that would just allow for 4g since there is no disable 5g setting on the Verizon version but there is on every other carrier...uhg.
Anyways they said yes, I got 2 new sims and... I still saw 5g and I still have the wonderful battery drain from the phone constantly trying to get a 5g signal. Terrible.
I have this exact same setup and I don't have 5g either, logo doesn't show up or anything. I went to the att store and asked about a sim card and they said that shouldn't matter, I had them look up my plan and apparently I don't have a 5g plan (I'm using a line on my dad's plan). It would be nice, but I've accepted it for now. I've gotten pretty decent battery life from the start and I think it might be because I don't use 5g
I have the Samsung unlocked model and am with At&t. When am out and about at the top I do see it says 5G but in Miami we have no 5G enable yet but it does seem like it would get 5G once that enable. Once in a while i do loose that 5G signal and it drops down to LTE but for like a few seconds only than it jumps back to the 5G signal.

Question Im still getting these issue.

I circled the issue here. It's an exclamation point that on the signal bars. I have full signal but no internet connectivity. Look at what it says under internet (networks available) even though it says I have 5guc. The only thing that immediately clears this is clicking the tool and circle in the upper right corner.
I would get this issue on the pixel 6 pro alot more but it's still happening albeit alot less on the pixel 7 pro.
Anyone else getting this issue?
Never saw that on any phone. Seeing how you've experienced it on two different phones makes me think either you have a 3rd party app causing this OR it has something to do with your provider.
paniro187 said:
I circled the issue here. It's an exclamation point that on the signal bars. I have full signal but no internet connectivity. Look at what it says under internet (networks available) even though it says I have 5guc. The only thing that immediately clears this is clicking the tool and circle in the upper right corner.
I would get this issue on the pixel 6 pro alot more but it's still happening albeit alot less on the pixel 7 pro.
Anyone else getting this issue?
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try changing your network from 5g to lte, see if it improves
I am starting to think this is a T-Mobile 5G SA problem. I have a Tello eSIM that uses T-Mobile and it works fine but when I used the T-Mobile Network Pass eSIM to try out T-Mobile postpaid, it was constantly dropping and was actually booting both my eSIMs from the network.
On my OnePlus 9, the Tello pSIM would drop data all the time if it connected to 5G SA but fortunately I could disable that in developer options. There is no such option on the Pixel and my Tello pSIM was doing the same thing when I first got the new phone. Converting my Tello pSIM to eSIM just seems to have disabled 5G SA entirely on it so I wasn't having the problem again until the T-Mobile eSIM.
This was the reason why i gave up on the P6 Pro a year ago!
It is less, but still have some times the issue! Connected to 5G, good signal, but no Data Connection, and after few Minutes i get the ! sign!
few minutes more, and the connection is coming back!
Provider A1 and Magenta in Austria!
Yes I have that on P7P. That and many other issues, calls start burbling after 8-10 minutes. I miss calls, in general the network is very slow.
Waiting for an update before returning it.
I believe this is a T-mobile issue. Where I live I get 5G UC around half the time compared with just 5G. There are a few spots where 5G UC shows connected however no data will pass. Same issue on my iPad Pro. At least I can turn off 5G UC on the iPad Pro. Can't find any setting where you can disable just the 5G UC.
EtherealRemnant said:
I am starting to think this is a T-Mobile 5G SA problem. I have a Tello eSIM that uses T-Mobile and it works fine but when I used the T-Mobile Network Pass eSIM to try out T-Mobile postpaid, it was constantly dropping and was actually booting both my eSIMs from the network.
On my OnePlus 9, the Tello pSIM would drop data all the time if it connected to 5G SA but fortunately I could disable that in developer options. There is no such option on the Pixel and my Tello pSIM was doing the same thing when I first got the new phone. Converting my Tello pSIM to eSIM just seems to have disabled 5G SA entirely on it so I wasn't having the problem again until the T-Mobile eSIM.
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schmeggy929 said:
I believe this is a T-mobile issue. Where I live I get 5G UC around half the time compared with just 5G. There are a few spots where 5G UC shows connected however no data will pass. Same issue on my iPad Pro. At least I can turn off 5G UC on the iPad Pro. Can't find any setting where you can disable just the 5G UC.
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On the P6P, I had ridiculous Signal and Battery issues - til I disabled 5G. Where it's strong, T-Mob 5G is great but where it's barely coming in, it's terrible. Even on the P7P, the first thing I did in Network was choose LTE as my preferred
EtherealRemnant said:
I am starting to think this is a T-Mobile 5G SA problem. I have a Tello eSIM that uses T-Mobile and it works fine but when I used the T-Mobile Network Pass eSIM to try out T-Mobile postpaid, it was constantly dropping and was actually booting both my eSIMs from the network.
On my OnePlus 9, the Tello pSIM would drop data all the time if it connected to 5G SA but fortunately I could disable that in developer options. There is no such option on the Pixel and my Tello pSIM was doing the same thing when I first got the new phone. Converting my Tello pSIM to eSIM just seems to have disabled 5G SA entirely on it so I wasn't having the problem again until the T-Mobile eSIM.
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In the first place we believed that the porblem was Hardware in Pixel 6, but I consume that's not Tensor's problem anymore. It might be, but the carriers with the 5G antenna upgrades don't help the situation.
Do you live in supported by Google country, or not?
As i can say, i had this issue the first time with the Note 10 + (Exynos) ... the Pixel 6 Pro was very bad with this issue, as i had to return it!
Now with the Pixel 7 Pro it started again, not that often as the P6P ... but still! And just on 5G!
Between with the S22U Snapdragon (S908E and S9080), also with the OnePlus and Sony etc ... i never had this issue!
so, i think it is a Exynos Modem Issue with few Provider Hardware
MultiCulti said:
This was the reason why i gave up on the P6 Pro a year ago!
It is less, but still have some times the issue! Connected to 5G, good signal, but no Data Connection, and after few Minutes i get the ! sign!
few minutes more, and the connection is coming back!
Provider A1 and Magenta in Austria!
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I can confidently say it's not a hardware issue, I get this one of the networks. I use dual sim one is esim with 5g connection which works perfectly, but the other one with a physical sim gives this as when it loses the network signal
Could it be a APN settings issue? I get this on my carrier if i don't set the proper APN settings.
I had this with EE in the UK on their Esim. Switched to Vodafone and haven't had the issue since
I do think when I used the phone before I gave it to my wife, that I saw the same things. And yes, I'm on T Mobile.
tsoump said:
In the first place we believed that the porblem was Hardware in Pixel 6, but I consume that's not Tensor's problem anymore. It might be, but the carriers with the 5G antenna upgrades don't help the situation.
Do you live in supported by Google country, or not?
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Yes, I'm in the US. It only seems to be a problem on T-Mobile and they're the only ones here that have a 5G standalone network (making things worse, they have it on both their 5G frequencies now so it happens every time that 5G connects). My Tello physical SIM that uses the T-Mobile network was doing the same thing until I converted it to eSIM and now it doesn't connect to the 5G SA network anymore (whether intentional or a bug is yet to be seen) and I've had no data drops.
For the record, I have heard this same complaint levied at iPhones.
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Yes, I'm in the US. It only seems to be a problem on T-Mobile and they're the only ones here that have a 5G standalone network (making things worse, they have it on both their 5G frequencies now so it happens every time that 5G connects). My Tello physical SIM that uses the T-Mobile network was doing the same thing until I converted it to eSIM and now it doesn't connect to the 5G SA network anymore (whether intentional or a bug is yet to be seen) and I've had no data drops.
For the record, I have heard this same complaint levied at iPhones.
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I have no clue.
The problem with two Sims simultaneously is obvious mainly in unsupported carriers (the trick is to switch the one sim to only 2G).
Maybe the antennas are weak in this specific area so the call falls from to 2G and this might occurs the problem (?)
Same issues started on my One Plus 7T Pro. No 5g, LTE works perfect. No version of APN settings can get 5g back. It's definitely a 5g SA issue.
Could be: intentional, tmobile/Tello issue they are unaware of, or just something they are fixing.... for over a month now lol
myxdad said:
Same issues started on my One Plus 7T Pro. No 5g, LTE works perfect. No version of APN settings can get 5g back. It's definitely a 5g SN issue.
Could be: intentional, tmobile/Tello issue they are unaware of, or just something they are fixing.... for over a month now lol
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Check your developer options for a 5G network mode one. If you have it, switch it to 5G NSA only. That fixed it on my OnePlus 9. Seems to be hit or miss which OnePlus devices have the option though.
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Check your developer options for a 5G network mode one. If you have it, switch it to 5G NSA only. That fixed it on my OnePlus 9. Seems to be hit or miss which OnePlus devices have the option though.
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No my rooted 7T Pro / Android 11 does not have this in developer option to switch between NSA and SA.
And I couldn't find any other way to mess with this setting unfortunately
With *#*#4636#*#* I can mess with a lot of antenna stuff, but still no NSA / SA option.
Everything I've read is that 5g NSA works and SA does not. Even though SA worked for years up until around early November from what I noticed
myxdad said:
No my rooted 7T Pro / Android 11 does not have this in developer option to switch between NSA and SA.
And I couldn't find any other way to mess with this setting unfortunately
With *#*#4636#*#* I can mess with a lot of antenna stuff, but still no NSA / SA option.
Everything I've read is that 5g NSA works and SA does not. Even though SA worked for years up until around early November from what I noticed
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I wonder if they added that toggle in A12. I never looked for it when I was on 11.

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