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My F1 Global Version arrived this afternoon. I popped in my T-Mobile SIM and set the phone up. I've been using it for less than an hour.
Good News:
Voice works fine. I made multiple test calls with WiFi off. All sounded great.
Bad News:
So far I've not been able to get a data connection via 4G. It says I have service but pages won't open. I'll play around with it more.
Anyone else on T-Mobile in the US and able to get data?
EDIT: Data seems to be hit-miss. For the last 20 minutes data seems stable.
After about 10 hours of use, I can confirm that US T-Mobile users cannot get 4G on the F1. Even though it says it has an LTE connection.
Voice and 3G work fine. If you're planning to use this with data on T-Mobile, you might want to look elsewhere. I use mine mostly on WiFi so not a deal breaker for me.
I too am on T-Mo and live in Chicago. Voice sounds great. Same experience with data - the phone shows "4G" but I am getting 3G speeds. I've run Speedtest numerous ties, and I'm consistently getting 10 Mbps down, and a few up. Absolutely adequate for my needs (Spotify, email, etc.). In fact, Spotify runs so much faster than my previous phone, that it is a huge improvement for me. So, I've had the same experience, and for me, as well, 3G is not an issue.
Mike02z said:
After about 10 hours of use, I can confirm that US T-Mobile users cannot get 4G on the F1. Even though it says it has an LTE connection.
Voice and 3G work fine. If you're planning to use this with data on T-Mobile, you might want to look elsewhere. I use mine mostly on WiFi so not a deal breaker for me.
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My Speedtest results are attached. There's some variance, but about 10 Mbps down on 3G. Of note, the Wifi results are crazy, and easily 2x faster than my previously phone (LG V20) on the same exact network. In my experience, at both home and work, the Wifi on the F1 is ridiculously good.
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My Speedtest results are attached. There's some variance, but about 10 Mbps down on 3G. Of note, the Wifi results are crazy, and easily 2x faster than my previously phone (LG V20) on the same exact network. In my experience, at both home and work, the Wifi on the F1 is ridiculously good.
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I agree on the WiFi. I have FIOS gig service I'm getting 400 MB down and 450 up at home on WiFI. with the F1. Better than my S9+ or OnePlus 6
I'm very impressed by the F1. More so than I thought. Just waiting for my unlock code. I have not run into an app yet that has given me an issue. I'll be testing Android Auto later today when I get home. This is truly a nice phone at an amazing price. While no 4G is disappointing, I'm wondering if the band is there, just not turned on. Won't be the first time we have seen that.
Come on development!
Thanks for the follow-up. Also, although a little off topic, I'm interested in hearing about your experience with Android Auto. For me, "Ok Google" isn't currently working. I understand that's a Google issue, not a problem with the F1 (I hope). Haven't been able to text in the car, like I usually do, so I'm anxiously awaiting a fix for that!
My pocophone will not connect to T-Mobile. I have the correct APN settings and it does not connect. I'm surprised you guys are seeing connectivity. I'm in the new york area
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Thanks for the follow-up. Also, although a little off topic, I'm interested in hearing about your experience with Android Auto. For me, "Ok Google" isn't currently working. I understand that's a Google issue, not a problem with the F1 (I hope). Haven't been able to text in the car, like I usually do, so I'm anxiously awaiting a fix for that!
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Just information "OK Google" command already fixed on miui 10 8.9.11 closed global beta rom,,,
Thanks! Here's hoping the F1 updates to MIUI 10 soon!
Compared to my Mi A1 or Redmi 4X I don't get a LTE symbol here in austria (three), speed is probably mediocre.
Goldeneye185 said:
My pocophone will not connect to T-Mobile. I have the correct APN settings and it does not connect. I'm surprised you guys are seeing connectivity. I'm in the new york area
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Weird. Have you reset the phone with the SIM in? Selected USA as country?
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Weird. Have you reset the phone with the SIM in? Selected USA as country?
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I've done everything. I even unlocked the boot loader and still nothing. I downloaded the LTE discovery app and it will connect for 2 minutes then drop. I think it's a software issue. I'm on 9.6 build
Goldeneye185 said:
I've done everything. I even unlocked the boot loader and still nothing. I downloaded the LTE discovery app and it will connect for 2 minutes then drop. I think it's a software issue. I'm on 9.6 build
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So you can't get 2G or 3G? No TMo connectivity at all? Sorry for all the questions - I have a trip to NYC in December, and want to know if I'm going to have a problem!
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So you can't get 2G or 3G? No TMo connectivity at all? Sorry for all the questions - I have a trip to NYC in December, and want to know if I'm going to have a problem!
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I get 0 connectivity. No 2g or 3g. Nothing
Goldeneye185 said:
I get 0 connectivity. No 2g or 3g. Nothing
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I assume the SIM works in another phone? If not, could just be a bad SIM. If not, maybe you got a bum phone. I'm 60 miles from NYC and only LTE is not working.
It will be another day before I can test Android Auto. Wife has that car and working late tonight.
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I assume the SIM works in another phone? If not, could just be a bad SIM. If not, maybe you got a bum phone. I'm 60 miles from NYC and only LTE is not working.
It will be another day before I can test Android Auto. Wife has that car and working late tonight.
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My sim card is fine. It works just fine with my other phones including my new Xiaomi Mi max 3. I'm getting LTE connection. This is why I don't understand why this pocophone won't connect.
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My pocophone will not connect to T-Mobile. I have the correct APN settings and it does not connect. I'm surprised you guys are seeing connectivity. I'm in the new york area
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T-Mobile has Band 5 in limited markets (which F1 includes). 2, 4, and 12 are prevalent in NY. My current phone has B5 and I've never seen it connect to that band personally.
As for OP. 4G is probably HSPA (3G) but that's very slow. Can you use Network Signal Guru to confirm signal type?
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T-Mobile has Band 5 in limited markets (which F1 includes). 2, 4, and 12 are prevalent in NY. My current phone has B5 and I've never seen it connect to that band personally.
As for OP. 4G is probably HSPA (3G) but that's very slow. Can you use Network Signal Guru to confirm signal type?
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My phone is not rooted so network signal guru doesn't work. I did however install LTE discovery and that was a failure. The app didn't work because I wasn't connected to T-Mobile network
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My MIUI version: is 9.6.14.0
Model name: M1805E10A
https://www.frequencycheck.com/models/AK6Pa/xiaomi-pocophone-f1-dual-sim-td-lte-cn-m1805e10a
https://www.frequencycheck.com/carr...im-td-lte-cn-m1805e10a/t-mobile-united-states
Goldeneye185 said:
My phone is not rooted so network signal guru doesn't work. I did however install LTE discovery and that was a failure. The app didn't work because I wasn't connected to T-Mobile network
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My MIUI version: is 9.6.14.0
Model name: M1805E10A
https://www.frequencycheck.com/models/AK6Pa/xiaomi-pocophone-f1-dual-sim-td-lte-cn-m1805e10a
https://www.frequencycheck.com/carr...im-td-lte-cn-m1805e10a/t-mobile-united-states
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Same here. Got it yesterday and requested unlock code last night.
Post here for Canadian owners of the LG V60.
Anyone in Canada have 5g access? I don't have 5g in Nova Scotia. Wondering what people's thoughts are that have it.
Not in my neck of the woods. (Northern Ontario)
FYI, only Rogers has 5G network running in few cities.
Here's a map with the 5G antennas speedtest.net/ookla-5g-map
Just got April 2020 security patch on my Telus phone. Now at version 10n.
Bell is supposidly launching 5G in parts of NS soon. I dont know where exactly but I'm hoping halifax will be one of the spots.
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Bell is supposidly launching 5G in parts of NS soon. I dont know where exactly but I'm hoping halifax will be one of the spots.
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T Mobile has 5g all over United States Canada must be slow
There are 5g cities in the Huge cities like toronto and Vancouver, but the big telcos had to re look at hardware partners so the rollout got pushed out a year in some areas
Hello - I just upgraded my G7 to a V60 yesterday and I am loving the phone.
I would like to know if anyone else has noticed that the cell signal bars seem to be pretty low all the time. I am located in Mississauga at Winston Churchill and Eglington and I am only seeing 1-2 bars.
Has anyone found a workable screen protector for the exterior part of the dual screen?
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Hello - I just upgraded my G7 to a V60 yesterday and I am loving the phone.
I would like to know if anyone else has noticed that the cell signal bars seem to be pretty low all the time. I am located in Mississauga at Winston Churchill and Eglington and I am only seeing 1-2 bars.
Has anyone found a workable screen protector for the exterior part of the dual screen?
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That's cool, I'm at the same intersection of Mississauga! And yeah 5G with 1-2 bars
According to Bell's map - 5G coverage isn't in our area.
I did some messing around with another guys sim card - he's on rogers - and when I put his in it immediately jumped to 4-5 bars. So it seems to be an issue with the bell network coverage in the West end. In know that when I am inside the schools - Rogers phones work fine - Bell phones all seem to drop connection.
I may go in and get a new sim card - mine is really old - but I doubt that will fix anything.
In any case - the phone seems to be normal - and still very happy with it.
ThermoDyn said:
According to Bell's map - 5G coverage isn't in our area.
I did some messing around with another guys sim card - he's on rogers - and when I put his in it immediately jumped to 4-5 bars. So it seems to be an issue with the bell network coverage in the West end. In know that when I am inside the schools - Rogers phones work fine - Bell phones all seem to drop connection.
I may go in and get a new sim card - mine is really old - but I doubt that will fix anything.
In any case - the phone seems to be normal - and still very happy with it.
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Strange cause mine is saying 5g and the speeds are above 4g/LTE+ the *#*#4636#*#* also confirms I'm on the 5g downlink
Bought the V60 from Telus unlocked using it on Rogers i dont even have the option to select 5G , when i go to network> Mobile networks i only have GSM/WCDMA/LET. im i missing something ? Telus V60 should work with Rogers 5G right ?
Hi I have just bought an unlocked canadian variant LM-V600TM I think. On my update says 1st october security pach. Is this the last one ota update? The LG eta says android 11 come in december for our v60? Is that right?
It the phone discontinued in Canada? i don't see anyone selling it anymore
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Anyone in Canada have 5g access? I don't have 5g in Nova Scotia. Wondering what people's thoughts are that have it.
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Yeah! I live in Quebec near Matane and they have 5G there
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It the phone discontinued in Canada? i don't see anyone selling it anymore
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I've just bought the last V60 in a The Source location yesterday, but yeah the V60 doesn't appear anywhere now. I think they stop to sell this phone.
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It the phone discontinued in Canada? i don't see anyone selling it anymore
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Try Amazon.ca. That's where I bought mine. It's a Sprint/Tmo version which you can debloat. Cheaper as well.
any idea about when we get android 11? not that it matters because it's mostly cosmetic at this point anyway
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any idea about when we get android 11? not that it matters because it's mostly cosmetic at this point anyway
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I got mine last week but I had the Tmo version running on Bell network. I would say avoid the update for now as there's an issue with battery drain. You can search it up and it's not limited to LG V60. It affects Pixel devices as well.
Hi. Im in uk and have f2 pro 5g. I have in settings set prefer network to 5g. 5g is not available where i am at all. My problem is my mobile data (working fine with lots of other phones so not signal related) sometimes just stops working.
I have set to prefer to 4g and still the same. I have updated my apn settings ( not much to change) and done factory reset. I have looked on the dial *#*#4636#*#* and i have phone info 1 and phone info 2. I go to set network type and have a list. Whenever i chose one after reboot it changes back to unknown. (Please see pics)
Any ideas???
Thanks guys.
Hello mate, phenomenally I've just received the phone yesterday. Beautiful phone. However I've come to notice the same issue. Changing over prefer lte or 5g does nothing. The only real fix is switching off data and switching it back on. Never had this issue with all my previous phones, including realme, oneplus and Huawei. It's most probably a software fault. But it's making me want to return it.
Im noticing the following, switching WiFi off when outside doesn't cause the issue but need further testing to confirm.
I read about that bug but I can not confirm it. If you turn on 5G you can only use 1 sim card but 5G is anyways almost useles on this device (only N77/N78)
3 uk is on N78
Linuxkek said:
I read about that bug but I can not confirm it. If you turn on 5G you can only use 1 sim card but 5G is anyways almost useles on this device (only N77/N78)
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Agree, I live in Puerto Rico and it doesn't even have T-Mobiles band 66 LTE. Incredible that a phone powered by a SD 865 lack of all of these. Software updates are super bad, I haven't got 1 single update and 5G on this phone is useless.
Hi everyone. I purchased a OnePlus 8 5G directly from OnePlus, running on the T-Mobile network. After trying to figure out why I didn't receive the T-Mobile 5G SA update (10.5.17.IN55CB), I realized my phone is running the international version of the software. I guess this is because it's factory unlocked but I didn't realize this would limit my access to T-Mobile 5G updates! I never travel internationally and don't really care about an unlocked bootloader, etc. as long as the SIM is unlocked.
Can I manually download and install the T-Mobile software so I will get the 5G SA update (and future T-Mobile OTA updates)?
i was also wondering if that would make a difference. maybe someone could provide the modem.img from that update, if it changed. flashing the euro modem on the international rom definitely made a difference for me. not really with speed but overall coverage and stability.
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Hi everyone. I purchased a OnePlus 8 5G directly from OnePlus, running on the T-Mobile network. After trying to figure out why I didn't receive the T-Mobile 5G SA update (10.5.17.IN55CB), I realized my phone is running the international version of the software. I guess this is because it's factory unlocked but I didn't realize this would limit my access to T-Mobile 5G updates! I never travel internationally and don't really care about an unlocked bootloader, etc. as long as the SIM is unlocked.
Can I manually download and install the T-Mobile software so I will get the 5G SA update (and future T-Mobile OTA updates)?
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Right now you dont want it. It breaks incoming and outgoing phone calls.
Seems they pulled the update as well
Guys I'm on TMO but switched over to global voluntarily. Honestly check out TMO 5G info and you'll find it's not as great as you think. It's the beginning of a software change. Veteran modders know the beginning of updates have a lot of bugs.
If you really want it then get the MSM Tool, downgrade to 10.5.7 and let it upgrade you manually to 10.5.17. then you can get back to global if you'd like with the modem. Happy modding!
Thanks, it sounds like it was premature. I live in a rural area and my main concerns are 1) better (not reliant on LTE) 600Mhz coverage and 2) lower latency.
Do you think the global software line will get an SA update down the road? Are there any other difference between the global and T-Mobile line of software that would affect my coverage performance with LTE or 5G?
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Thanks, it sounds like it was premature. I live in a rural area and my main concerns are 1) better (not reliant on LTE) 600Mhz coverage and 2) lower latency.
Do you think the global software line will get an SA update down the road? Are there any other difference between the global and T-Mobile line of software that would affect my coverage performance with LTE or 5G?
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Great question, This is my first OnePlus phone so I can't tell you if and when gonna will get the update. What I have heard of that TMO is rolling out 5G in several layers. This first one is pretty low key but it had some books already. Second and third would be better. I guess check around here to see more about it. If you are absolutely sure you want this update then you can use MSM took to downgrade then just let the TMO servers do the work for you. Happy modding!
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Thanks, it sounds like it was premature. I live in a rural area and my main concerns are 1) better (not reliant on LTE) 600Mhz coverage and 2) lower latency.
Do you think the global software line will get an SA update down the road? Are there any other difference between the global and T-Mobile line of software that would affect my coverage performance with LTE or 5G?
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I would be surprised if the global version got an update for SA 5g. That's TMO specific and OnePlus would have zero care about a specific carrier of all the world's carriers .
There are differences in modems according to TMobile. I can't remember specifics but I think it was carrier aggregation on band 66 ( I don't remember much so I may be way off)
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I would be surprised if the global version got an update for SA 5g. That's TMO specific and OnePlus would have zero care about a specific carrier of all the world's carriers .
There are differences in modems according to TMobile. I can't remember specifics but I think it was carrier aggregation on band 66 ( I don't remember much so I may be way off)
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Yeah, I figured that was unlikely with the global version, although I'm sure carriers across the world will begin deploying SA 5G at some point.
I was going to start a new thread but after you notes about the modem differences, this might relate to another issue I've noticed: When connected to Band 2 (1900 Mhz) with LTE or 5G, I was getting really good speeds (~30Mbps Down/5Mbps Up). Now, when I test using 5G or LTE (by turning off 5G) my speed tests are horrible: ~1Mbps Down/0.7Mbps Up. I have tested with "Smart 5G" on and off, and also removed and reinstalled the SIM card. If I pop the SIM card out and put it back into my Pixel 2, I get 30Mpbs Down/5Mpbs Up with LTE on Band 2. My Pixel 2 was purchased directly from Google and is factory unlocked/direct Google updates.
Do you think this is because of the carrier agg issue you mentioned? In my area Band 4/Band 66 is only used for T-Mobile 2G/3G, to my knowledge. LTE is offered on Bands 2, 12, and 71. 5G NR seems to only be on Band 71 here at present.
Josh McGrath said:
I would be surprised if the global version got an update for SA 5g. That's TMO specific and OnePlus would have zero care about a specific carrier of all the world's carriers .
There are differences in modems according to TMobile. I can't remember specifics but I think it was carrier aggregation on band 66 ( I don't remember much so I may be way off)
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Josh, not often this happens, but I disagree with what you say here. Normally I agree with everything you post. However, this time I have to disagree.
5G SA is not at all T-Mo specific and is a standardized implementation for carriers should they choose to go that route.
However, OnePlus caring about it is up in the air, lulz!
See here: https://ibasis.com/what-is-5g-sa-nsa/
5G SA means stand alone. This means that the device will only ride on 5G and not aggregate with 4G.
If I am wrong please correct me. Thanks!
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If you are absolutely sure you want this update then you can use MSM took to downgrade then just let the TMO servers do the work for you.
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I and many others posted that they cannot get the update. Those that did said they had connectivity issues. I suspect that T-Mo pulled the update. I don't know this for fact, however I cannot get the update. T-Mo site says check back after 8/31. That's crazy weird. Others also complain. I think the update is borked hence the lack of wide roll out. . Again, dont know this for fact but just speculating...
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Josh, not often this happens, but I disagree with what you say here. Normally I agree with everything you post. However, this time I have to disagree.
5G SA is not at all T-Mo specific and is a standardized implementation for carriers should they choose to go that route.
However, OnePlus caring about it is up in the air, lulz!
See here: https://ibasis.com/what-is-5g-sa-nsa/
5G SA means stand alone. This means that the device will only ride on 5G and not aggregate with 4G.
If I am wrong please correct me. Thanks!
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For sure. I do stand corrected here on SA. I was referring to the specific bands that TMobile uses for SA 5g vs world bands SA 5g but who knows if that's impossible but I, like you, think that OP will not care about it or would screw it up.
As for the modem differences, I was referring to an older post from TMobile on their forums during the 6t launch days so I can't really remember exactly what it was. I think if you searched my posts from way you could find it
Speaking of, I am incredibly disappointed in tmos 5g. I'm lucky to get 20 dl. Are you having any better luck
Scott said:
Josh, not often this happens, but I disagree with what you say here. Normally I agree with everything you post. However, this time I have to disagree.
5G SA is not at all T-Mo specific and is a standardized implementation for carriers should they choose to go that route.
However, OnePlus caring about it is up in the air, lulz!
See here: https://ibasis.com/what-is-5g-sa-nsa/
5G SA means stand alone. This means that the device will only ride on 5G and not aggregate with 4G.
If I am wrong please correct me. Thanks!
I and many others posted that they cannot get the update. Those that did said they had connectivity issues. I suspect that T-Mo pulled the update. I don't know this for fact, however I cannot get the update. T-Mo site says check back after 8/31. That's crazy weird. Others also complain. I think the update is borked hence the lack of wide roll out. . Again, dont know this for fact but just speculating...
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Yeah I think you are right. As soon as it was available it became unavailable. They will roll it out when those bugs are fixed. This is one of the reasons I don't like TMO stock. They are buggy and slow to update. Not to mention all the bloatware.
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Speaking of, I am incredibly disappointed in tmos 5g. I'm lucky to get 20 dl. Are you having any better luck
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I am EXTREMLEY disappointed
History of my observations...
When I first switched to T-Mobile with the 6T the speeds were great. Well, decent. But around the time the S20 series came out I noticed extreme sluggishness with the 6T. Compared it to the people in the store and there's wer the same. A massive down turn in speed. I suspect it had something to do with the implementation of 5G in the area. It was my guess... Anways, moved back to T-Mobile two months ago and got this phone. The speeds are even worse. So this phone on 5G is just as bad as LTE. I disabled 5G and tested. Same results.
Long story short, T-mobile did something and slowed my connection down.
Your lucky. Very luck. I routinely get 2 to 5 mbs when I am home. In town I dont think I got over 25Mbs. AT&T has the best network in Fargo. 200MBS down on S20U all day!
Hey guys,
So I've received my P7P a couple days ago. Ordered in Romania from the official Amazon Store. 5G, VoLTE, and VoWiFi don't work, as you all know.
But the biggest problem I have is that the network just completely disconnects if I leave the phone on the desk for a couple minutes. I have people messaging me and asking why they can't call me. When I look at the phone, there's no GSM signal of any kind. This is in a location where I have full 5G coverage otherwise.
I had to go into airplane mode 2 times before I was able to receive a call. The first time it connected to LTE for a couple seconds and then it completely dropped again.
Not to mention it takes forever to connect again after going in an area with weak signal.
I've updated to the Beta and the issue persists.
Great software, great camera, whatever, all useless when you can't fulfill your main purpose of being A PHONE.
Anyone else with issues like this? This is all I've found: https://piunikaweb.com/2022/10/20/pixel-7-7-pro-no-network-or-no-service-connectivity-issue/
Does the phone have the LTE bands it needs to even work where you live? If not, then I doubt there will be anything you can do but return it and look to another OEM.
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Does the phone have the LTE bands it needs to even work where you live? If not, then I doubt there will be anything you can do but return it and look to another OEM.
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oh LTE works well. 5G doesn't work.
It just gets disconnected from any kind of cellular network and gets no signal after a while.
Have you taken the day one OTA? That fixed the problem for most of us. I haven't seen any X or ! since the first day. Before that update I was having my connection drop every 10 minutes or so.
If you already have taken this update, you may have a defective model.
Try force stopping Carrier Services and Google Play Services and deleting the storage for both. That help me tremendously with connectivity issues with Pixel 6 Pro.
Might want to try Carrier Services beta as well.
Another thing to check is your APN settings. Make sure they're what your service provider recommends
I immediately updated before unlocking the bootloader and rooting, I don't have network outage or anything. 5G seems to be working as well, at least available in settings, I'm yet to test it in 5G area but where I live, there's no 5G actually so it would not bother me much anyways. I'm so far very happy with it