Hi All,
Just like many other users, I really want to get rid of EMUI 8, which made me seek for a better OS for my mate 9.
Thanks to the Treble project, I have already found that many users started their new life with the Honor view 10 version of lineageos 15.1 on their mate 9 devices.
I refered to some topics in XDA, and found that most of the posters are discussing about RR, only less words are about lineageos itself.
As the RR developer said, the latest version which was build on 2.4.2018 had an issue of front camera, but seems that this issue is not listed in lineageos not working list of the latest build on 29.4.2018.
I just have something to share and some question about lineageos instead of RR this time.
The first thing is to share about the encrypt issue in TWRP.
The posters discussed about RR before all mentioned that the DATA and SDCARD partition are encryped which made us not able to modify them or put the zip files in them in TWRP.
But as I remember, when I upgraded to stock OREO rom in Dec 2017, we can format DATA and SDCARD partitions in TWRP, and they will be decryped permanently unless we use a stock rom to initialize the system again.
Anybody has tried it in LineageOS 15.1?
And my question is about the wipe actions before we boot to LineageOS.
I am a little bit busy everyday, and I use my mate 9 for daily usage, so I have no enough time to test. Hope that anybody can help on testing or have already tested about the issues below?
1. Do we really need to wipe everything with the stock recovery? Or TWRP to wipe data, cache, sdcard etc is good enough? (Because the developer of LineageOS never mentioned in his/her post that we need to wipe everything with the stock recovery)
2. Is there any requirement of the kernal version? I am using the B334 version of OREO, and the version is a Chinese one. The kernal is 4.4.23+.
Hope that somebody can answer me the question before I flash. It will take me about several hours to recover all the software and data if I failed in booting LineageOS (because currently I am using a stock rom, which made data and sdcard partitions encrypted and not able to backup), and I am really busy these days... Thanks a lot.
hey all Im having constant niggly issues with A10 on my Oneplus7 pro and its starting to drive me nuts
things like dropping the wifi constantly even after resetting all wifi settings
google assistant suddenly stops working
fingerprint sensor becomes flaky
so i was thinking of installing a custom ROM if anyone can suggest one.
I assume I would need to root the phone to do so so would need some help witht that too
What do you recommend? I have a one plus 7 pro 5G EU version
TIA Bart
There are plenty of guides here on how to bootloader unlock, flash a custom recovery and then root your phone. Only 2 need to be done to flash a custom rom however that might not even be needed have you tried doing a full factory reset? Or doing a OnePlus recovery msm factory reload?
Edit: you hate nagging bugs don't go custom roms we got some great ones. Vibration and Haptics, Auto-Brightness and Vowifi issues but we tolerate them for customizability and improvements over other broken codes. So it's a duality.
Thanks for your reply
I've done a full factory reset about 6 times in the past 6 months.
Also OnePlus support did a full msm reset too
Which Rom would you recommend as there are so many to choose from?
And which 2 things are a must to flash a Rom?
You must be bootloader unlocked and you must have a custom recovery installed to flash a custom rom. There is no perfect custom rom it's all choices. Read the threads, listen to people. Read reviews, look at videos and pictures. Then take the leap and flash it, don't like it oh well flash a different one... WELCOME TO THE ADDICTION OF MODDING.
Thanks bud
Many moons ago I flashed a custom Rom for an s5 and used TWRP so hopefully proces not too different now.
I know we don't have a complete implementation of recoveries, like twrp/of (I know it's basically the same), yet. But now that we have the kernel source, what is still missing (vendor?)?
Also and kinda of a similar question, what is still missing regarding a "normal" flashing process? Like wipe system, data, dalvik/art, cache, flash rom and not having to have a base stock firmware and needing to format data.
To be honest, I'm a bit confused with this phone. My other phones (admittedly last one's didn't get past Android 9), were so different in that regard.
So I'd really appreciate if someone could take the time to shed some light on this.
Maybe we'll see a stable version of twrp for surya but support for dynamic partitions will not be available soon.
Having to format data everytime you flash a new rom may be solved having the kernel source. I think it has to do with encryption keys. Even if you don't have any password set in the OS, miui still generates keys to encrypt the data and when you wipe only, they get deleted hence, data on the internal nemeory remains encrypted. That's what I think.
https://twrp.me/site/update/2019/10/23/twrp-and-android-10.html
Ok, to be honest and judging by the fact that the announcement by Dees_Troy was over a year ago, things look pretty difficult to say the least.
I had my last phone (axon7) for so long that all the new implementations, like dynamic linking and super partition, weren't really on my radar.
Guess I was a little naive in thinking that the kernel source would be of any help in that regard.
This lack of stable time-tested solutions worries me, too.
That's the main reason why I'm still on stock ROM on the Poco and the Axon 7 is still my daily driver.
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pnin said:
This lack of stable time-tested solutions worries me, too.
That's the main reason why I'm still on stock ROM on the Poco and the Axon 7 is still my daily driver.
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How about EU ROM ?
Thanks for your thread.
I'm asking too.
I went from an old device too (redmi note 4 mido), and i'm a bit lost on flashing process.
Is it possible to :
Install orangefox via fastboot.
Wipe all & format data.
Flash recommend firmware for rom.
Flash custom rom.
Flash gapps.
And boot ?
Any problem with that ? What i'm missing ?
Don't have phone now, I'm waiting for shipping, and will wait for unlock bootloader access. I hope it will more clear and simple when I will discover poco x3.
You can do all those things. What you can't do for example is make a backup and restore your current custom rom.
Oh ok.
Sorry, miss understood your op post.
I was confused because on some custom roms thread, I find strange install instructions, like : dont wipe anything, format data AFTER flash custom roms...
Somes roms requires frimware 12.0.3. What about if phone have a more recent ? Can I downgrade just by flash fw+vendor on recovery before flash rom ?
And some people said they have bricked there devices.
Just to be sure to don't make stupid error on fresh new device, that I can't solve with miflash and fastboot.
Thank you for your reply.
I only clean flash roms, never backup, don't have a lot of apps, and majority have import/export options in-app.
But I hope for you it will be fixed soon.
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As @[armitage] pointed, it doesn't enable nandroid backups that I know of.
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hi everyone, I am new to this forum.
i've been interested in rooting / mods for my old Samsung s9 to give it a new life.
I did so by rooting it using the TWRP app in combination with the Magisk V23.0
now what happened was that i was downloading some random apps yesterday and for some reason the phone went on bootloop...
i accidentally deleted the system without making a backup lol... a little stupid of me...
now it keeps telling me that i've no OS on my phone. i was thinking that i could easily find the ''un-edited'' or simple version of my original OS. but i've looked through many sites without succes.. either looks 2 good to be true or just fake...
is there anyone who can advise me on what to do? i just want my phone to work with any OS right now... but which one is the cleanest or best to use? i do prefer a newer os like 10
thanks in advance!
If you still have access to recovery mode, your best choice would probably be installing LineageOS. It's the most lightweight ROM and many ROMs are based on Lineage. From what i can see, your phone is no longer officially supported.
I found this one based on Lineage 18.1 (Android 11). Before installing, take a look at the bugs, working, and installing sections.
And don't forget to install the Google Apps after installing the system and before rebooting.
that looks crispy. i appreciate your quick & good advise. can you tell me wether i can still run Magisk on it?
Yes, you can still flash Magisk or any type of root with both the OS and the GApps.
what i'm consider about is, wether a region code CRC matters?
First of all. I have a Poco X3 Pro with 8GB RAM and 256GB Storage. MIUI is v12.5.2.0 (RJUEUXM). Model says M2102J20SG. I Have bought my phone 8 months ago and yesterday I decided to unlock it, mistakenly thinking that would let me disable the Xiaomi apps I do not like.
TL; DR:
1) Can I root my phone with stock rom?
2) Can I disable Xiaomi apps on stock rom if I root it?
3) Any suggestions for me with priority on stability over performance?
I have not been involved in rooting a phone in many years. The last android phone I had and rooted was a ZTE Blade and I mean the first Blade, which was like over a decade ago. After that I did a mistake to go on iPhone and then on an LG G6, that never made me feel like I needed to root it honestly.
The main reason I want to root my phone is to debloat it safely, removing/freezing/disabling quite a lot of Xiaomi's extra software, that I just do not want on my phone. MIUI seems quite enjoyable to me, although I have to admit, due to how I am worried that updating it will make my phone more sluggy and will affect battery life, I have yet to ever update it, still being on version 12.5.2.0.
I honestly would not mind to use a custom rom, but my preference is always stability over performance, except if that would offer me extra battery life and the current MIUI's battery life is beyond excellent in my experience, but maybe because LG G6's battery life was never that good since the day I bought it. I am definitely open to suggestions, about the course of action you people think I should take.
You can use adb commands to disable apps, but speaking from experience, you can only disable so much before things start to break, and some of the most annoying things (to me) cannot be disabled without breaking something. Also, when you update the system, all disabled things will most likely re-enable and you have to do the whole process all over again.
If you like MIUI, uninstall apps that can be uninstalled normally and use it as it is, or (and I highly recommend it) install custom ROM. If you want stability, ArrowOS or Crdroid is what you should take a look at. ArrowOS comes with gapps, while Crdroid offers tons of customization and comes as Vanilla (you can flash gapps seperately, if you want).
You sure can root your phone with stock Miui. However, you need to unlock the bootloader, first. It implies loosing all your current data. After that is done, I see no point in running stock miui, I'd go for xiaomi.eu's stable or any of the AOSP roms currently available.
I'm currently running latest crDRoid, which I'm quite enjoying. It's based of LineageOS with added tweaks and is shipped without gapps - you must installed after flashing the ROM.
Make sure you understand the process:
1. Unlock bootloader - you must wait for the 7 days to do so.
2. Flash a recovery. I suggest looking for a beta of a recovery that supports Android 12 decryption, try Nebrassy's TWRP
3. Flash your preferred ROM
4. Root it with Magisk+useful modules: safetynetfix, gms doze, etc.
Enjoy.
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You can use adb commands to disable apps, but speaking from experience, you can only disable so much before things start to break, and some of the most annoying things (to me) cannot be disabled without breaking something. Also, when you update the system, all disabled things will most likely re-enable and you have to do the whole process all over again.
If you like MIUI, uninstall apps that can be uninstalled normally and use it as it is, or (and I highly recommend it) install custom ROM. If you want stability, ArrowOS or Crdroid is what you should take a look at. ArrowOS comes with gapps, while Crdroid offers tons of customization and comes as Vanilla (you can flash gapps seperately, if you want).
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No, adb commands is something I definitely do not want to do. I want the system to allow me to actually disable something, without any sort of "brute forcing", mostly cause like you mentioned, I am worried of breaking things. I do not per se dislike google apps, but honestly if I can have as less as possible, it would be better for me. I will look into both the custom roms you mentioned, thank you =)
aurocha said:
You sure can root your phone with stock Miui. However, you need to unlock the bootloader, first. It implies loosing all your current data. After that is done, I see no point in running stock miui, I'd go for xiaomi.eu's stable or any of the AOSP roms currently available.
I'm currently running latest crDRoid, which I'm quite enjoying. It's based of LineageOS with added tweaks and is shipped without gapps - you must installed after flashing the ROM.
Make sure you understand the process:
1. Unlock bootloader - you must wait for the 7 days to do so.
2. Flash a recovery. I suggest looking for a beta of a recovery that supports Android 12 decryption, try Nebrassy's TWRP
3. Flash your preferred ROM
4. Root it with Magisk+useful modules: safetynetfix, gms doze, etc.
Enjoy.
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I unlocked the bootloader just yesterday, so I am done with the first part. I will definitely be checking crDroid, since it seems I can't get rid of MIUI what annoys me the most, which is it's bloatware. I guess since you guys mention to try a custom rom, I should give it a try at least, since i went ahead and unlocked the bootloader anyway. Thank you for the suggestion!
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Also, when you update the system, all disabled things will most likely re-enable and you have to do the whole process all over again.
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If you uninstall them via ADB on the active user profile they will stay uninstalled even after an update. I did so with 12.5.5 and upgraded to 13.0.1 a while back and they stayed uninstalled.
weltall2 said:
No, adb commands is something I definitely do not want to do. I want the system to allow me to actually disable something, without any sort of "brute forcing", mostly cause like you mentioned, I am worried of breaking things. I do not per se dislike google apps, but honestly if I can have as less as possible, it would be better for me. I will look into both the custom roms you mentioned, thank you =)
I unlocked the bootloader just yesterday, so I am done with the first part. I will definitely be checking crDroid, since it seems I can't get rid of MIUI what annoys me the most, which is it's bloatware. I guess since you guys mention to try a custom rom, I should give it a try at least, since i went ahead and unlocked the bootloader anyway. Thank you for the suggestion!
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You could also try XiaomiEU rom, which is basically what you want: debloated MIUI. But to have true control over the apps and features you want, rom like Crdroid is the way to go.
Oh I have seen Xiaomi EU mentioned a lot, but I kept thinking it was just the European stock roms. I just looked it up thanks to you and it indeed looks exactly like what I was asking for. I wanted to stay on MIUI cause I really worry that if it is not vanilla, it might cause problems and most importantly battery life ones.
I probably will be trying to go for crDroid, but for now I am worried I might make a mistake. I would hate it if I ended up bricking my phone, since I love Poco X3 Pro.
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Oh I have seen Xiaomi EU mentioned a lot, but I kept thinking it was just the European stock roms. I just looked it up thanks to you and it indeed looks exactly like what I was asking for. I wanted to stay on MIUI cause I really worry that if it is not vanilla, it might cause problems and most importantly battery life ones.
I probably will be trying to go for crDroid, but for now I am worried I might make a mistake. I would hate it if I ended up bricking my phone, since I love Poco X3 Pro.
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Don't worry, you won't brick your phone if you just follow instructions, even then, you would have to do some crazy **** to hard brick your phone, most likely you will just end up with bootloop, which is always fixable by just reflashing the rom.
Read carefully and everything will be fine. I am on ArrowOS since I got the phone, updating regularly, rooting, using magisk modules, zero problems so far. Most of the time, battery life is better since useless bloat won't drain it so much.
Purely for battery life reasons I would personally never suggest switching to a custom rom from MIUI, because with a few ADB commands you can get rid of most of the "useless" bloat. However, if you are concerned about your privacy and don't want to feed Xiaomi with your data, then Lineage would be a good choice as an alternative OS, since at least the official versions are heavily regulated.
The battery life of a debloated MIUI is fantastic, at least in my case.
Ok, this will probably be a bit of a dumb and final question before I jump into the whole custom rome in the next days when I have time. I have seen a lot of times people mentioning TWRP or in general recovery that should be android 12 compatible, rather than the normal v11 provided in the twrp site. crDroid even seems to offer it's own recovery for it's latest android 12.1 version. I am still on Android 11 (MIUI 12.5.2.0). Does that mean I need to first update my phone to the latest MIUI to upgrade my software to android 12, or the recovery is backwards compatible?
I would definitely update to latest stock rom, then flash recovery and install ROM.
Hi!! I'm on the same situation here, coming from a Poco 1 (which is being really hard to let go) to a Poco x3 Pro so this thread is being really useful to me cause I'm basically on the same dilemma, stock vs custom?
I always used custom but when I bought my Poco 1 there was an automated script that unbloated the phone so I did that and stayed with the stock with no issues at all in this 3 years of use.
Now, for the poco x3, the only way of doing the same is by going app by app and removing it through ADB which, as you mentioned, is not that good if you are not sure what to remove so that made me think of going to a custom rom. I mean, I just installed it and all that xiaomi junk is removed.
What I didn't know is that the EU version was debloated so that could be a good option for me but, here's my questionk besides de bloated apps, which is the diference between EU and Global roms? Are they target for the same version of the phone or I could have like NFC disable or radio issues? Cause I though there were different version of the stock roms cause the hardware was diferent between devices.
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I would definitely update to latest stock rom, then flash recovery and install ROM.
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Ok, first I am going to let the updater do it's job finally and then the rest. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
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What I didn't know is that the EU version was debloated so that could be a good option for me but, here's my questionk besides de bloated apps, which is the diference between EU and Global roms? Are they target for the same version of the phone or I could have like NFC disable or radio issues? Cause I though there were different version of the stock roms cause the hardware was diferent between devices.
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Just to point out, Xiaomi EU is in a way a custom rom. The Xiaomi.EU community taken the Chinese rom, that has less bloat and more features, translating it and sharing it to people. Just because it it called debloated, that does not mean it does not come with the same Xiaomi Apps. It is still MIUI and that means some Xiaomi apps will still be impossible to disable and also apps like the Xiaomi Security that will softbrick your phone if disabled, still is needed and will cause the same thing in the Xiaomi.EU rom.
It is the main reason I am thinking of trying crDroid, or else like you said, I would not mind just a debloated stock rom, since afar from all the needed Xiaomi apps, MIUI seems quite enjoyable to me. If you check their forums though, you will see even the Xiaomi.EU has it's own problems.
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Ok, first I am going to let the updater do it's job finally and then the rest. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Just to point out, Xiaomi EU is in a way a custom rom. The Xiaomi.EU community taken the Chinese rom, that has less bloat and more features, translating it and sharing it to people. Just because it it called debloated, that does not mean it does not come with the same Xiaomi Apps. It is still MIUI and that means some Xiaomi apps will still be impossible to disable and also apps like the Xiaomi Security that will softbrick your phone if disabled, still is needed and will cause the same thing in the Xiaomi.EU rom.
It is the main reason I am thinking of trying crDroid, or else like you said, I would not mind just a debloated stock rom, since afar from all the needed Xiaomi apps, MIUI seems quite enjoyable to me. If you check their forums though, you will see even the Xiaomi.EU has it's own problems.
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Ohhhh I see! I think I'll try crDroid too and Arrow, as long as it's debloated, the IR works as long with the radio and the nfc, I'm happy.